In discussion with SNIA this week. I'll get back to you all ASAP.
Alex McDonald Standards & Industry Associations Group CTO Office NetApp +44 7795 046686 Mobile Phone alexmc@netapp.com netapp.com twitter: @alextangent
-----Original Message----- From: Ray Van Dolson [mailto:rvandolson@esri.com] Sent: 03 April 2013 07:25 To: McDonald, Alex Cc: 'fredgrieco@yahoo.com'; 'levins0@gmail.com'; 'toasters@teaparty.net' Subject: Re: [OT] General Purpose Storage Discussion
Draft from me --
What: A mailing list for general purpose discussion of storage-related topics (vendors, hardware, fabrics, processes/best practices, etc.). Geared to engender high quality discussion and collaboration between Storage Operators and Administrators.
Why: To date, a number of high quality lists exist for discussing vendor specific storage platforms, but there is no single forum for discussion surrounding general storage topics in a vendor-agnostic way, nor for discussing underlying infrastructure and surrounding topics. As a result, such discussion either doesn't occur, or occurs in locations such as blogs or commercial-style forums such as LinkedIn where conversations are tainted to some degree by significant non-technical input.
How: (Assuming you know better on the "how") SNIA would sponsor the creation, administration and governance of a mailing list filling the void described above. This could either be something similar to the NetApp Toastesr or USENIX LISA lists (Mailman) or a Google Groups style distribution list.
Thanks, Ray
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 02:12:54PM +0000, McDonald, Alex wrote:
Ok, if I get a seconder to your proposal, I'll see what I can do. It's a good week for it as most of the management of SNIA are at SNW in Orlando.
We'd need a charter (or at least a few choice sentences) on the what, why and how. Just post here with (or ping me directly) on your thoughts and I'll draft something for you and SNIA.
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----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Van Dolson [mailto:rvandolson@esri.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 06:59 AM To: McDonald, Alex Cc: 'fredgrieco@yahoo.com' fredgrieco@yahoo.com; 'levins0@gmail.com' levins0@gmail.com; 'toasters@teaparty.net' toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: [OT] General Purpose Storage Discussion
There's absolutely interest from me.
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 01:44:27AM +0000, McDonald, Alex wrote:
I had high hopes for that group, but apart from a very few I trust and know either professionally or personally, I would be careful. The quality of the advice is very sales and marketing oriented, and the number of storage admins with any qualifications or experience is low.
And to echo Fred's point, the s/n ratio is a very small number. Quality it ain't.
Is there a broad interest from this group in something like a discussion list? There's a SNIA Cloud Storage Google Groups list that operates as an open list; take a look there.
Please let me know if something like that would work. I chair a couple of SNIA groups, and I'm sure I can get this to happen if there's interest.
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From: Fred Grieco [mailto:fredgrieco@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 06:41 AM To: Adam Levin levins0@gmail.com; Ray Van Dolson rvandolson@esri.com Cc: toasters@teaparty.net toasters@teaparty.net Subject: Re: [OT] General Purpose Storage Discussion
The storage groups on Linked In get pretty good discussions from time-to-time. There's a lot of noise and headhunters, though.
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I'm not sure about SNIA, but I know there have been plenty of discussions on the tech lists for SAGE and LOPSA related to storage, so that's certainly a good place to start.
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandolson@esri.com wrote:
This list is great -- but obviously is NetApp centric. I'm wondering if any of you can recommend a mailing list or forum, with a similar level of participation and expertise, that's a bit more "general purpose" but still storage-centric. Something similar to the SAGE/LISA mailing lists for Systems Administration. Perhaps SNIA offers such discussion groups to its members? Thanks, Ray