Jerry wrote:
Wholly crap. I've been wishing there was an "ls" for simple stuff in the filer. Now all they need is vi.
Jerry,
Your mileage may vary ...
Norbert is working in a large environment which afaik is using all(!) available NetApp products incl. MultiStore, FCP, ...
Currently, sometimes they "have" :-( to enter the unsupported "advanced" or even higher modes to do their daily work.
So they want/need some of these commands moved to the official admin mode, so they can use them and still have support if something fails.
This was the reason for his survey. They are not looking for hidden special gimmicks. The are just talking about commands necessary to do their daily work ...
Looking back on 9 years of ONTAP experience, with hundreds on installations, trouble shootings, fault analysis and performance tunings, I sometimes use "ls", but dont't miss "vi" at all. Why?
(1) Political reasons & security: Especial at MultiStore Environments, many vfiler-customers don't want to give you any access to "his" vfiler's data.
(2) Coverage: vi would only cover a few admins needs. There are so many different "favorite" texteditors available: vi, emacs, ed, edlin, wordpad, notepad, ... They never could choose just "one" editor and make everybody happy. You would also have to take special care about the file locking inside the filer and so on ... So NetApp relays the choice of texteditor to you. :-) No need to reinvent the wheel. They just give you the ability to access the files using NFS, CIFS, ... if you have the rights based on the security settings. Which leads us back to (1). :-)
(3) The filer is a server, not a workstation.
Somebody just mentioned the gimmick "java netapp.cmds.jsh"... We already had a discussion about the "jsh" some time ago. I don't use it. And I know (and already wrote) why... :-)
Calling these in some points extremely useful "deeper analyis commands" "w..ly cr.p", I get the impression, you never used UNIX commands like par, strace, ktrace, truss, sar, vmstat, prfstat, and so on, before. You might want to have a look at this: http://bhami.com/rosetta.html
Anyhow, best regards Dirk Schmiedt