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RE: Moving files but not .snapshots?
by Toal, Dave 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

my mistake, the /oldvol mounts should be different dirs under root. cd /oldvol1/dir1; find . ... | cpio -dmp /newvol1/dir1 & cd /oldvol2/dir2; find . ... | cpio -dmp /newvol2/dir2 & The /old/1, /old/2 would also work; you'd be reading from the same source mount though, unless the individual dirs were mounted separately. mount filer:/vol/old/1 /old/1 mount filer:/vol/old/2 /old/2 -----Original Message----- From: Toal, Dave To: 'Jim Davis '; 'toasters(a)mathworks.com ' Sent: 3/13/03 3:45 PM Subject: RE: Moving files but not .snapshots? Jim, If there are subdirectories in what you're copying, one way to speed things up is mounting the same pair of vols (old, new) multiple times, and running the find | cpio in each subdir. Use more than one cp host if you saturate i/o or cpu on the first one. cd /oldvol/dir1; find . ... | cpio -dmp /newvol1/dir1 & cd /oldvol/dir2; find . ... | cpio -dmp /newvol2/dir2 & > What I am seeking is a bit like folklore. How about a spam filter that bounces any posts that don't contain keywords? "filer, vol, ndmp, spam" ? -----Original Message----- From: Jim Davis To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: 3/13/03 2:47 PM Subject: Moving files but not .snapshots? I want to move two big directories from an old volume to a new volume, but just the files -- not the snapshot subdirectories. So far I've tried find . -type d -name '.snapshot' -prune -o -print | cpio -pdm /newvol from the adminhost, which works but isn't blazingly fast. Are there any other ways people can suggest?

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RE: Moving files but not .snapshots?
by Toal, Dave 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

Jim, If there are subdirectories in what you're copying, one way to speed things up is mounting the same pair of vols (old, new) multiple times, and running the find | cpio in each subdir. Use more than one cp host if you saturate i/o or cpu on the first one. cd /oldvol/dir1; find . ... | cpio -dmp /newvol1/dir1 & cd /oldvol/dir2; find . ... | cpio -dmp /newvol2/dir2 & > What I am seeking is a bit like folklore. How about a spam filter that bounces any posts that don't contain keywords? "filer, vol, ndmp, spam" ? -----Original Message----- From: Jim Davis To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: 3/13/03 2:47 PM Subject: Moving files but not .snapshots? I want to move two big directories from an old volume to a new volume, but just the files -- not the snapshot subdirectories. So far I've tried find . -type d -name '.snapshot' -prune -o -print | cpio -pdm /newvol from the adminhost, which works but isn't blazingly fast. Are there any other ways people can suggest?

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Re: Moving files but not .snapshots?
by Jeffrey.Burton＠abbott.com 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

You can use ndmpcopy from the filerhead CLI, granted you have a new enough DOT version. This creates a snapshot then copy's all the data and ACL's from source to target. First make sure that the ndmp option is turned on: ndmpd.enable on Then below will work: ndmpcopy /vol/sourcevol /vol/destvol You can copy at any level, not just the vol level. If the source and dest's vols are on a seperate filer just preceed the dir with "filename:" so "ndmpcopy sourcefiler:/vol/sourcevol destfiler:/vol/destvol". After the copy you can remove the temp file created at the destination end which is used for incremental updates (I forgot the name but it will be a huge file with an obviously generated name). Man page and NOW has good ndmp info. Thanks, Jeff Jim Davis <jdavis(a)cs.arizona.edu> Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com 03/13/2003 01:47 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com cc: Subject: Moving files but not .snapshots? I want to move two big directories from an old volume to a new volume, but just the files -- not the snapshot subdirectories. So far I've tried find . -type d -name '.snapshot' -prune -o -print | cpio -pdm /newvol from the adminhost, which works but isn't blazingly fast. Are there any other ways people can suggest?

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RE: antivirus software
by Wurster, Richard M DSTI 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

We have had very good results using Symantec's CarrierScan product, which is designed specifically for the filer. Rick Wurster SBCCOM / DSTI 410-436-3824 DSN 584-3824 <mailto:rick.wurster@sbccom.apgea.army.mil> -----Original Message----- From: David Papas [mailto:david.papas@newisys.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:24 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: antivirus software Just curious which antivirus software, if any, folks are using on their filers out there. We're considering either Symantec or Trend's for an F820 and was wondering what people's experience with scanning filers has been like. Thanks all, David Papas

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Writer/Researcher Requests your Help
by Steve Lawler 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

Dear Colleague, Please excuse the impersonal quality of this e-mail. I am writing to ask your help for an article I am writing about Life Practices. I am looking for examples of those simple things that we all do that are essential to expressing and maintaining our values as we face life's ups and downs - our Life Practices. I am especially interested in practices developed by those who have been in, lived through or dealt with the aftermath of war. What I am seeking is a bit like folklore. Something with a story and an easy to remember slogan or catchphrase. I am asking you to contribute out of your own personal experience not as an official representative of an organization. I am especially interested in those practices, which help you deal with others - in your family, at work, in your immediate community, in the larger global community, etc. This is the only e-mail you will receive from me unless you choose to participate in this project. So far I have gathered over 150 practices from people all over the world: These are examples of contributions I have received so far that may help clarify what I am looking for: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- " 'Water what you want to grow' is my motto. Whenever I see something being done well I acknowledge it as soon as possible and in some tangible way. The least that I do is to complement the person doing the thing well. What I try to do more often is write a note to the person or give them a small gift." "My life changed when I went from seeing mistakes as awful to seeing them as the first chapter of a textbook on a new subject. I even had this made into a sign that hangs on the wall in my office. 'Mistakes are just chapter one in a textbook on a new subject' Now I get bothered if I don't have some sort of royal screw-up every few days. It's like I am not trying." "I learned from my grandfather to 'use the best materials you can afford.' This has provided a model for my life's work. Even in my late 70's I am still actively building things and more to the point of your book, I am still building my life out of "the best materials I can afford." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- These practices come from people from many places and with a wide variety of backgrounds. I am grateful for that. I want to show the broadest possible view of Life Practices from around the globe. The article will feature some of the material I gather with some commentary. I will be grateful if you would send me a practice that you use as a foundation in your life. Please include some brief biographical information as well. Also, if you would like to share in what I am learning, please let me know as well. And please let me know if you have any additional questions. Thank you for your consideration. Steve Lawler swl(a)lawler.org About me: Steve Lawler an ethics consultant and writer based in St Louis, Missouri USA. He regularly gives workshops on issues of ethics, values and culture. He has been quoted in a number of related pieces in publications including the Wall Street Journal, The Christian Science Monitor and Cape Talk Radio - Cape Town. Lawler has worked with companies in the US and Europe - including Monsanto, Pulitzer Publishing, and the Danforth Foundation. He has been a lecturer at Washington University and at Webster University. He has written for numerous publications. Steve Lawler 47 Aberdeen Place, St. Louis, MO 63105 USA Voice: +1 (314) 753 7911 Fax: +1 (314) 727 9792 E-mail: swl(a)lawler.org Web Site: www.lawler.org

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RE: antivirus software
by Nail, Larry 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

David, I did an analysis about 18 months ago & Trend came out on top for performance and managebility. Symantec CS was 2nd followed by McAfee. All 3 work fine & each have their pluses & minues. In the long run, it depends on what pricing you can pull out of the 3 of them and what you want for manageiblity. Carrier Scan wasn't really manageable, and McAfee requires EPO to centralize the stuff. Trend comes with their management utility in the form of an Information Server. I also noticed on busy systems (this was a F760 cluster running 99.9% CIFS) that CS & McAfee performance wasn't as good a Trend... Larry -----Original Message----- From: David Papas [mailto:david.papas@newisys.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:24 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: antivirus software Just curious which antivirus software, if any, folks are using on their filers out there. We're considering either Symantec or Trend's for an F820 and was wondering what people's experience with scanning filers has been like. Thanks all, David Papas

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Re: antivirus software
by John Duino 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

David Papas <david.papas(a)newisys.com> said: > Just curious which antivirus software, if any, folks are using on their > filers out there. We're considering either Symantec or Trend's for an > F820 and was wondering what people's experience with scanning filers has > been like. > > > Thanks all, > David Papas > I've been using and installing RAV antivirus (ravantivirus.com or from raeinternet.com) in various installations with great success. -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | John Duino | | AeroHead Designs | | UNIX, Network & WWW Consulting | | (310) 993-9188 | | jduino(a)AeroHead.com | | http://www.AeroHead.com | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

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RE: antivirus software
by Gifford, Josh 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

Hi David, I was on the beta team for the Trend product and I have been very happy with it. The overhead on the filer is minimal and you can use existing NT servers to scan the filer. If you already use Trend ServerProtect, then it will run under the information server that you already have and you can manage it through the console that you are used to using. Currently Trend is working on another version with a lot of new features, but I'm not sure when I'll see the beta on that. If you have any specific questions, please let me know. Josh J. Gifford MCP Network Systems Administrator Siemens PTD 7000 Siemens Rd Wendell, NC 27591 Office 919.365.2806 Fax 919.365.1080 josh.gifford(a)siemens.com -----Original Message----- From: David Papas [mailto:david.papas@newisys.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:24 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: antivirus software Just curious which antivirus software, if any, folks are using on their filers out there. We're considering either Symantec or Trend's for an F820 and was wondering what people's experience with scanning filers has been like. Thanks all, David Papas

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antivirus software
by David Papas 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

Just curious which antivirus software, if any, folks are using on their filers out there. We're considering either Symantec or Trend's for an F820 and was wondering what people's experience with scanning filers has been like. Thanks all, David Papas

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RE: CIFS getattr load
by Sam Schorr 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

Todd, Do you have the no_atime_update=on option set on your filer volume(s)? If not, this can generate much activity as the filer updates the access time for each file hit. Automated testing would really whack them. --sam -----Original Message----- From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:27 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: CIFS getattr load Instead of standing at a crossroads or a fork in the road, I'm standing in an open field, and need somebody to point me in a direction... My filers are showing loads and loads of CIFS getattr operations, on the order of 80% of the CIFS traffic, which is 80-90% of the total NFS and CIFS traffic. Finding out why this is so, or alleviating it or reducing it so the load on the filers goes down, is my goal. The filers are used in a software development environment, in an automated testing environment (generally no interactive usage by people). The CIFS/getattr load is most imbalanced not when a software build is happening but while testing suites are run. On the order of only 10 Windows clients (generally Win2k) can nearly cripple an F840. So, at this point, any WAG's are welcome. Do directories with large numbers of files stress the getattr operations? Has anyone run across any applications that are very "chatty" with filers? Has anyone run into any bugs (with ONTAP or with Windows) that might show such a symptom? Perhaps the application mix we are running is just this way, but something in my gut tells me something is amiss. I have a sniffer available, but before I get to that detail, I was hoping to mine the wisdom of this list, to approach this vague problem armed with some good ideas. Until next time... The MathWorks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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