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Backup speeds across the network
by Geoff Hardin 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

We have several filers and few tape drives so we are looking at doing 3-way NDMP backups. Right now, we are doing those backups to other filers, but this is consuming a lot of resources, especially on the tape host filer. So, we are looking at a new tape library from SpectraLogic, Overland, Quantum, StorageTek, etc. that has the NDMP "built-in" to the tape drive. Our question is, what kind of speeds are others seeing in their real environments? Speaking to one vendor, they claimed their library would work at the rated tape speeds (35 MB/s), while another claimed even better performance (40 MB/s); to his credit, the second vendor said that he wasn't the technical guy, but he thought that's what he remembered. Call me overly cynical, but I find it hard to believe that we will see speeds comparable to direct attached tape over the network. Our experience in the past has been somewhere closer to 50% of the rated tape speed, and even that may be a bit overreaching for some of our older filers (F760C). Thanks, Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com UNIX System Administrator Maxim / Dallas Semiconductor

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ssh scripts
by Robert Borowicz 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

I want to work with our DBA's to put our Oracle instances in Hot Standby to grab snapshots. Anybody got a script they use that utilizes SSH to run the snap command on a filer? Thanks -Rob

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User administration (was ssh scripts)
by Michael Christian 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

Next question. I want to automate user administration. The whole 'useradmin useradd' thing with its interactive interface and live password addition (who the heck only lets root set a user's pasword?) is probably not going to work with our 500+ filers. 500xNumberOfAdmins. Yeah, right. The docs point to fairly standard /etc/[passwd,shadow,group] files, but having added a user, I still don't see them on my box. Has anyone automated user management? -MikeC _____ From: Michael Christian Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:08 PM To: 'Potakamuri, Sreenivasa'; Thorsten.Lemke(a)computacenter.com; bparent(a)calvin.ucsd.edu Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: ssh scripts Nice, that did it. Thanks. User-level auditing will be a godsend. -MikeC _____ From: Potakamuri, Sreenivasa [mailto:Sreenivasa.Potakamuri@netapp.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:53 PM To: Michael Christian; Thorsten.Lemke(a)computacenter.com; bparent(a)calvin.ucsd.edu Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: ssh scripts This problem has been fixed in 6.4.5, 6.5.1 and above. Bug number for this problem is 90495. Regards, Sreeni Network Appliance -----Original Message----- From: Michael Christian [mailto:mchristi@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Thu 10/28/2004 11:07 AM To: Thorsten.Lemke(a)computacenter.com; bparent(a)calvin.ucsd.edu Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: ssh scripts On a similar note, I've been trying to get user-level auditing working using ssh. When you telnet in, it logs actions under your userid, but when you ssh in, it logs everything as root. (Presumably because sshd is running as root?) Has anyone else had this problem, or know of a workaround? This is 6.5X18 -Mike ***************************************

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by Sakina 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

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From : Mr Kingsley Tarawally.
by kingsley tarawally 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

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Re: User administration (was ssh scripts)
by Glenn Duzy 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

You can change the password of a user created with the useradmin command using the passwd command on the filer. If there is more than just the root user defined, passwd will prompt you for the user name that you want to change the passwd on. ----------------------------------------- Glenn Duzy Senior Consultant GlassHouse Technologies 860.869.4177 gduzy(a)glasshouse.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com <owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com> CC: toasters(a)mathworks.com <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Tue Nov 02 04:28:47 2004 Subject: Re: User administration (was ssh scripts) you have to know that useradmin useradd userdel and so have nothing to do with /etc/passwd userad,in add been historically added to support telnet administration for different <admin user> thus being able to know wo do what (administrativelly speaking) next, this useradmin function was extended to support the user creation able to connect bu CIFS on the netapp (it creates local account) (in the past, you have to edit /etc/passwd and explicit a mapping with /etc/usermap.cfg...) in either case, this command doesn't modify the /etc/passwd file it is true that this command is not ... um, very coherent i think it had been integrated in the netapp to allow function that were in need... i had the same question from a customer : is it possible to change the passwd for a user created with useradmin the answer is no : you have to delete and recreate the user bye Michael Christian wrote: Next question. I want to automate user administration. The whole 'useradmin useradd' thing with its interactive interface and live password addition (who the heck only lets root set a user's pasword?) is probably not going to work with our 500+ filers. 500xNumberOfAdmins. Yeah, right. The docs point to fairly standard /etc/[passwd,shadow,group] files, but having added a user, I still don't see them on my box. Has anyone automated user management? -MikeC ________________________________ From: Michael Christian Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:08 PM To: 'Potakamuri, Sreenivasa'; Thorsten.Lemke(a)computacenter.com; bparent(a)calvin.ucsd.edu Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: ssh scripts Nice, that did it. Thanks. User-level auditing will be a godsend. -MikeC ________________________________ From: Potakamuri, Sreenivasa [mailto:Sreenivasa.Potakamuri@netapp.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:53 PM To: Michael Christian; Thorsten.Lemke(a)computacenter.com; bparent(a)calvin.ucsd.edu Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: ssh scripts This problem has been fixed in 6.4.5, 6.5.1 and above. Bug number for this problem is 90495. Regards, Sreeni Network Appliance -----Original Message----- From: Michael Christian [mailto:mchristi@yahoo-inc.com] Sent: Thu 10/28/2004 11:07 AM To: Thorsten.Lemke(a)computacenter.com; bparent(a)calvin.ucsd.edu Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: ssh scripts On a similar note, I've been trying to get user-level auditing working using ssh. When you telnet in, it logs actions under your userid, but when you ssh in, it logs everything as root. (Presumably because sshd is running as root?) Has anyone else had this problem, or know of a workaround? This is 6.5X18 -Mike ***************************************

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NEBS compliant NAS?
by Edward Hibbert 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

This probably isn't directly NetApp related - though I'd love it if it were. Does anyone know of a rack-mountable NAS which is NEBS compliant and no more than 19" wide and 20" deep? Regards, Edward.

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Undeliverable Mail
by Postmaster 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

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Re: Disconnect users from a filer by ntname
by Glenn Duzy 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

I've done a "cifs terminate [userID]" From the filer command prompt. I'm pretty sure you need to be running 6.4 or higher for this to work. That could be scripted via rsh or ssh. ----------------------------------------- Glenn Duzy Senior Consultant GlassHouse Technologies 860.869.4177 gduzy(a)glasshouse.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com <owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com> To: Miller, Garfield <Garfield.Miller(a)cingular.com>; toasters(a)mathworks.com <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Sent: Mon Nov 01 17:17:24 2004 Subject: RE: Disconnect users from a filer by ntname We use the application Hyena http://www.systemtools.com/hyena/. It is not freeware, but it does the job of disconnecting the sessions for users really well. One of the nice features is the ability to disconnect multiple open files for a single user at any one time. Clarence. -----Original Message----- From: Miller, Garfield [mailto:Garfield.Miller@cingular.com] Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 7:41 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Disconnect users from a filer by ntname Does anyone have a process or procedure to easily disconnect cifs users from a filer running 6.5.1r1, not by workstation, but by userid. We have users that login to multiple computers and thus have multiple sessions open. I know that computer manager(Win2k or XP) can accomplish this, but was wondering if anyone had this scripted somehow. ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au. If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, please reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. ***************************************************************

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RE: Virus scanning for filers
by Hill, Aaron 01 Nov '04

01 Nov '04

I think this depends largely on the security strategy of your organisation. For a business environment, I would suggest that you have as much security as the budget will allow whilst still maintianing relative ease for the bulk of users to keep being productive and making money for the organisation. A a rule, security is best achieved through layers. For example, add another layer by introducing scanning on your filers. A "paranoid" approach would be to have a virus product from one manufacturer running on each resource type. i.e. Product A - Servers, Product B - Desktops, Product C -Filers. Of course budgeting realities may prevent this from being realised. As for "gotchas"? In general, for Trend I would say no. But you do want to investigate the best practices guide on the NOW site regarding Trend and Filers. Particularly looking at the network connectivity design (GbE recommended) and mandatory scanning options ("off"). From a recent nasty experience we had, if you have multi-interface filers, request hotfix 1041 (Trend) be put in with the installation, just to be extra safe. Other than that, Trend has been a solid solution. --Aaron _____ From: SKIP HOFMANN [mailto:SKIP.HOFMANN@ttisg.com] Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2004 6:35 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Virus scanning for filers Hello all We are running AV on all our servers, and workstations. Is it also necessary to run AV on the filer or is this overkill? Any known "gotchas" with Trends filer protect? Thanks a million Skip Hofmann Senior Network Administrator TetraTech Skip.Hofmann(a)ttisg.com <mailto:Skip.Hofmann@ttisg.com> 949 500 5286 cell 949 608 5801 office ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au. If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, please reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. ***************************************************************

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