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Source NDMP server hangs after successful dump?
by Brian Tao 30 Oct '97

30 Oct '97

I downloaded ndmpcopy 1.1 from ftp.ndmp.org and used it to duplicate the data across filers. In every case using four different F230's, the dump/restore was successful, but the ndmpcopy never exits, suggesting the source filer may be hung. All the data was transferred, and the source filer is still alive and serving NFS, except it doesn't know that the dump is finished. All the filers are running 4.2a, as shipped. Is this a known problem? # ./ndmpcopy -v adm1-na1:/home/home1 adm1-na3:/home/home3 -sa root:******** -da root:******** Connecting to adm1-na1. Connecting to adm1-na3. adm1-na1: CONNECT: Connection established. adm1-na3: CONNECT: Connection established. adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: creating "snapshot_for_dump.1" snapshot. adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Oct 29 12:11:30 1997 adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: Dumping /home/home1/ to NDMP connection adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: estimated 3373500 tape blocks. adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: 15% done, finished in 0:27 adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: 32% done, finished in 0:20 adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: 49% done, finished in 0:15 adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: 66% done, finished in 0:10 adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: 82% done, finished in 0:05 adm1-na1: LOG: DUMP: 99% done, finished in 0:00 adm1-na3: HALT: The operation was successful! Waiting for adm1-na1 to halt too. (If it sits here forever, the transfer was successful, but the source filer has hung. Press ^C.) Elapsed time: 0 hours, 32 minutes, 10 seconds. ^C 0.04u 0.00s 37:02.48 0.0% -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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Re: Alpha future
by mds46523＠ggr.co.uk 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

On Oct 29, 16:01, Alexei Rodriguez wrote: > Subject: Re: Alpha future > +--- In our lifetime, "Gregory M. Paris" <paris(a)bose.com> wrote: > | > | Any thoughts on what the Intel/Digital settlement means to NetApp and > | its customers? It sure looks (to me anyway) as though the Alpha is dead. > I don't think Intel will discontinue the Alpha line, as it would not be in > it's best interests. Especially given the current microprocessor market. > Who is out there that has a good chip? Intel *have* to service Digital's needs for Alpha production. At least that's what I gathered from the announcements about the deals. I'm pretty sure there will be more technology exchange from Digital to Intel over time - Digital's really virtualising its business now, returning in many ways to being a service oriented company. Intel can almost certainly produce Alphas profitably - having the exclusive license to make them may mean Intel's attitude changes. Intel, like Motorola, seem to have few objections to maintaining multiple processor lines as long as they remain profitable and so far as anyone can tell the Alpha 21264 and 21364 at the ridiculous clock speed they're aiming at will stay ahead of the IA64 line. As for the rest, the MIPS line covers the full gamut of v.small to v.powerful CPU's and, as a result, has more sold units per annum than HP-PA, PowerPC and SPARC put together, last time I looked. Check out the Microprocessor report (I think it's at www.chipanalyst.com) for more detailed CPU/DSP industry watching. > > Alexei >-- End of excerpt from Alexei Rodriguez -- -Mark, TSG Unix admin and support, int 782 4412, ext +44 1438 76 4412. ... an Englishman in London ...

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Re: Alpha future
by mds46523＠ggr.co.uk 29 Oct '97

29 Oct '97

I'm not sure I can agree with that. I'm just thinking of the MIPS R1{0,2}K and ULTRASPARC II - those are fabless designs and they are both extant and, as far as I can tell, thriving. Digital were making out that having their own fabs was an advantage...now they're making out that they weren't actually generating revenue in the way Digital likes. *shrug* Besides I suspect that NetApp development could shift to another platform with (to the outside at least) consummate ease if other hot chips seem more viable. I'd be thinking of the TI DSPs myself. On Oct 29, 15:21, Gregory M. Paris wrote: > Subject: Alpha future > Any thoughts on what the Intel/Digital settlement means to NetApp and > its customers? It sure looks (to me anyway) as though the Alpha is dead. > > -- > Gregory M. Paris > Senior Systems Administrator > Bose Corporation Email: paris(a)bose.com > The Mountain, MS#258 Phone: +1 508 766-4072 > Framingham, MA 01701-9168 FAX: +1 508 820-0173 > >-- End of excerpt from Gregory M. Paris -- -Mark, TSG Unix admin and support, int 782 4412, ext +44 1438 76 4412. ... an Englishman in London ...

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Re: File names... on netapp from Mac over CIFS
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

On 10/22/97 11:45:32 you wrote: >I would suspect that this has to do with extended attributes. I agree with that. Also be aware that there are filenames that are legal under Mac's FS that aren't under NTFS (I think a filename ending with a space is one), so if the NT box is actually using a Mac-compatible filesystem as the share, going from it to an NTFS-compatible filesystem could cause problems. But the poster didn't seem to indicate that this was the case. Bruce

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File names... on netapp from Mac over CIFS
by Jaye Mathisen 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

WE have a Digital Alpha server running NT that we were thinking of moving to an F540. The alpha shares via services for Macintosh a local FS to some Macs. We want to move it to the filer, and use some CIFS software for the macs, or NFS. The problem is thusly: The NT box has a whole bunch of files with names that we can't copy to the filer. NT copy chokes when writing to the filer, but works fine copying them from one dir to another on the local drive. If anybody has any ideas on how to address this, I'd really like to hear it.

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F330 SCSI card f/s
by Tom Yates 21 Oct '97

21 Oct '97

since we went to the mixed-disc configuration on one of my F330s, i now have a spare regular SCSI card, netapp official vintage, in perfect working order. yadda yadda. if anyone has any interest in this, make me an offer. no, i have no idea what the hardware maintenance position on this kind of sale would be, but since it was under hardware maintenance while it lived with us, assuming it worked when it first got to you, i would expect it to come under whatever hardware maintenance arrangements you already have. can anyone shed any light on this? Tom Yates - Unix Chap - The Mathworks, Inc. - +1 (508) 647 7561 MAG#65061 DoD#0135 AMA#461546 1024/CFDFDE39 0C E7 46 60 BB 96 87 05 04 BD FB F8 BB 20 C1 8C

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netapp.com gone?
by Brian Tao 21 Oct '97

21 Oct '97

Is it just me, or did netapp.com disappear from the root servers? % dig netapp.com ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> netapp.com ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 6 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 1, Addit: 0 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; netapp.com, type = A, class = IN ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: com. 560 SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET. ( 1997102000 ; serial 1800 ; refresh (30 mins) 900 ; retry (15 mins) 604800 ; expire (7 days) 86400 ) ; minimum (1 day) ;; ...truncated ;; Total query time: 11 msec ;; FROM: tor-adm1 to SERVER: default -- 207.181.89.3 ;; WHEN: Tue Oct 21 11:02:47 1997 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 28 rcvd: 105 -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)netcom.ca) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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Re: ndmpcopy - do incrementals work?
by Daniel Quinlan 21 Oct '97

21 Oct '97

> Do incremental updates work with ndmpcopy or are you stuck doing it > all in a single level 0 chunk? > > We are running 4.2aD9 and I have about 25 GB of data to move around. > A level 0 ndmpcopy looks like it will take about 5 hours. Okay, I just read in the ndmpcopy manual that you need 4.3 to do this. Assuming that's true. Can I do an ndmpcopy at level 0 and then do a level 1 dump/restore via a Unix client? - Dan

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ndmpcopy - do incrementals work?
by Daniel Quinlan 21 Oct '97

21 Oct '97

Do incremental updates work with ndmpcopy or are you stuck doing it all in a single level 0 chunk? We are running 4.2aD9 and I have about 25 GB of data to move around. A level 0 ndmpcopy looks like it will take about 5 hours. - Dan

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dump-restore filer to filer
by Daniel Quinlan 19 Oct '97

19 Oct '97

I would like to do a dump-restore directly from one filer to another. Having not done this before, and having the requirement of doing it right, I'd like to ask if anyone else on the list has experience doing this. Here are the details: "source" filer path is "/dir/foo" - a normal directory "dest" filer path is "/dir-foo" - a quota tree "source" is an F540 running 4.1d "dest" is an F630 running 4.2aD9 The directory I want to move contains about 25 GB of data, which changes relatively frequently. First, I'll be doing a level 0 dump, and then a level 1 dump afterwards. Dan

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