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Re: File Locking
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 07 Apr '98

07 Apr '98

On 04/07/98 14:56:09 you wrote: > >On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 sirbruce(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: > >> Under UNIX, though, root has always been able to do just about >> anything. The problem arises when an NT user has a file locked >> and in use and root on a UNIX box wants to delete that file. >> The answer is you can't do it. I think the same is true for >> modification as well. > >my 10p-worth: i think this is another switch that should get included >under the "UNIX/NT file system semantics" big switch. i, too, find it >very annoying that i have to track down a CIFS lock holder in order to >blow away a file. > >i appreciate dave's desire to completely emulate an NT file server, but >would suggest this as another thing that might be disableable when the >filer is in "i'm not really an NT file server, i'm a UNIX file server that >can talk funny" mode. Of course, this is a UNIX-centric perspective. :) I don't think Netapp wants to appear to prefer one over the other... they also want to sell into the market of NT administrators, who would see it an NT file server that can talk funny. In that case I'm willing to concede the converse, if such a case existed, where a UNIX exclusive lock would otherwise prevent an NT Administrator from removing a file. The NT Admin will still have to do the "normal" NT thing when dealing with a CIFS-locked file, but I would not want to force him to go to UNIX to track down what a UNIX lock in a similar manner. I'm not sure that NFS is capable of such a lock, though, so this may be a moot point. But at least by this logic they would be treating both sides with equal consideration. Bruce

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File Locking
by Jeff Stampes 07 Apr '98

07 Apr '98

We're having a difference of opinion over certain toaster behavior and whether it is desirable or not. The specific issue is CIFS file locking. We use out 630 for building design software. We have a QA-like group who are sort of the front line sof testing. Their goal is to test software as fast as we get it built, so they test our actual build area. If someone opens up one of our applications, the NAC keeps all related libraries, execs, and datafiles locked until the application is exited. This of course prevents us from changing data that is in-use, a behavior I see as desirable. However, it also can cause the build group (my group) heartache because we can't patch a given file if it's in use, which some see as an 'unintended feature'. Is this indeed proper bahavior? If so, is there a "Big Hammer" mode we can use to break locks if needed? -Jeff

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by Weeks, Thomas 07 Apr '98

07 Apr '98

Hi all.. Have a Q about CIFS... Ok.. we are currently using a /etc/passwork file... here is an example of our /etc/password on out FS230 (4.2a9D) root:V5afkI50lIUdj:0:1::/: cifsuser:*:1500:1::/test: cifsadm:*:1502:1::/: weekst:*:682:1::/: Does this look ok? If so.. where the hell does the actual USER PASSWORD reside? Is there even one that exists? If no UNIX user is being used (i.e. no NIS) then how does a user CHANGE their access password? PLEASE email ASAP! Thanx.. Tom Weeks

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ATM interfaces and SPANS load balancing
by Scott Miller 06 Apr '98

06 Apr '98

I'd like to talk to anyone who is using ATM in their toasters, especially with multiple interfaces and Fore Systems SPANS signalling. Specificially, I'd like to know if interface load balancing (somthing that SPANS supports) works with two or more ATM interfaces in the NetApp. Thanks -Skottie -- ----- Scott Miller | Walt Disney Feature Animation skottie(a)fa.disney.com | Digital Studio Technology

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RE: Firmware and such...
by Weeks, Thomas 03 Apr '98

03 Apr '98

> > | Also again.. Why does the book say that you don't have to have > the http > > | license to do http admin and all I can get on our 230 is http man > pages? > > > > This threw me off at first. What they mean by that is that you can > load the > > FilerView software on your filer and do admin of it via a web > interface. > > It is kinda cool. Not the speediest thing over a T1 frame relay > cloud. > > Go to now.netapp.com and get filerview for your OS. It does not > require > > In ONTAP 5.0, FilerView is included by default, no separate install > needed. > Just point your browser at http://{filername}/na_admin > > ...Tim Thompson...tjt(a)netapp.com... > [Weeks, Thomas] Cool.. I'll have to check it out.. Does the current early release of 5.0 have FilerView? Tom D Tek

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re: RE: Firmware and such...
by tjt＠netapp.com 03 Apr '98

03 Apr '98

> Does the current early release of 5.0 have FilerView? Yes. ...Tim...

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Re: Firmware and such...
by tjt＠netapp.com 03 Apr '98

03 Apr '98

> | Also again.. Why does the book say that you don't have to have the http > | license to do http admin and all I can get on our 230 is http man pages? > > This threw me off at first. What they mean by that is that you can load the > FilerView software on your filer and do admin of it via a web interface. > It is kinda cool. Not the speediest thing over a T1 frame relay cloud. > Go to now.netapp.com and get filerview for your OS. It does not require In ONTAP 5.0, FilerView is included by default, no separate install needed. Just point your browser at http://{filername}/na_admin ...Tim Thompson...tjt(a)netapp.com...

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RE: Firmware and such...
by Weeks, Thomas 03 Apr '98

03 Apr '98

Hi all.. I'm new here... No I havn't read any FAQ's yet.. My config: FS230 (FIDDI and e0) 4.2.aD9 128M DRAM 4M SRAM NFS access with mount privs via host/netgroup and client NFS authentication CIFS (to test file space area) Right now it looks like the best way to give my customers both NFS anf CIFS access to the same file space is by using the /etc/passwd file... <sigh>.. this is a real pain... Has anyone been using OnTap 5.0? Any comments about CIFS access/shares via ACLs? Rigth now we're having to relate users to UNIX file permissions and it's a real pain becuase we have to merge over 27 different /etc/passwd files down to the 230's single passwd file... If there is a conflicting UID... we have to do the UID shuffle and go back and change them on the UNIX box to refelct what the NetApp has them down as. (BTW.. our UNIX servers are Solaris boxes and use NIS+, but they were configured wrong and all have their OWN NIS+ domain (stupid eh?))... Also... I am NOT using the CIFS.GUEST setting.. does anyone have good/bad experienve with this? Can the whole homedir thing still be used if this is implimented? Also again.. Why does the book say that you don't have to have the http license to do http admin and all I can get on our 230 is http man pages? Sorry for all the Q's at once... Thanx... Tom D Tek

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Firmware and such...
by Alexei Rodriguez 03 Apr '98

03 Apr '98

I think some of these issues have been raised before, but I thought I would raise them again :) We just upgraded our filer from 4.2a to 4.3.3 this morning. When we got the 4.3.3 files from NOW, we read the firmware docs. They state that you must have firmware 1.6 and above to run 4.2a and above. So, we thought "no problem; we are running 4.2a so we must have 1.6 on the box". Wrong. We had version 1.4a of the firmware on our f540. So, I had to get someone at the NOC to do all the floppy shuffling (our site is 2500 miles away). No problem. I just get scared whenever I do a firmware upgrade. Some scars never heal :) Ok, the firmware upgrade goes well. We then proceed to do the DataONTAP upgrade. No problem. There should be a note in the docs that warn of the time delay when doing a "download". I had not done one in a while and had forgotten all about it. might be nice to let folks know that this may take a few minutes. Ok, so I now have a f540 filer with firmware 1.6 and ONTAP 4.3.3. Whoohoo. Now, my concerns: - there should be a better way of looking at the firmware rev, other than having to halt the filer. - the system boot should be logged (all of it, including the firmware banner, like a Sun) - a CHANGELOG for firmware revs would be nice I think these changes would be nice. We have been having some odd issues with our FDDI (at around midnight the filer stops doing NFS on the FDDI interface; we down and up the interface and all is good). I wonder if this would have anything to do with an incorrect firmware rev... we have swapped the card and pci slot it is in. I am hoping that the new firmware/os will perhaps clear the problem. Alexei

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First posting test.... Ignore please
by Weeks, Thomas 02 Apr '98

02 Apr '98

Test test..1..2..3.. No Reply needed if this is really working... Tom D Tek

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