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Bug with ACL's & MS based "Save As"
by Weeks, Thomas 20 Aug '98

20 Aug '98

Hi all.. Have a NetApp F230 running OnTap 4.3.4. I am usnig the CIFS based "cifs.home_dir" option (with a "catch all" UID in the passwd file) to allow NT Authenticated users in my domain to each map their own home drive. When one of our users (running Win98 & MS-Office 97/Outlook97) saves documents, or file attacments from any of his applications to his CIFS mapped NetApp Home drive, they have no problems. Saves fine every time. HOWEVER, if he clicks on <file> <Save As> and directs it to the NetApp CIFS drive mount, he gets the error: "[MS OUtlook] Cannot save the attachment. Access Denied." But (from Outlook) if he clicks AND DRAGS the file, or copies it to his desktop first & then to the drive mount, there's no problem. Similarly, if he just tries to do a SAVE (and not Save as) then it works fine. THE PROBLEM IS JUST WHEN HE TRIES TO "SAVE AS". I looked at the user's dir. His permissions are 777, and his dir's UID (and all file/dirs under it) match his UID in /etc/passwd on the filer. Has anyone seen this behavior before? Please email me: Thomas.Weeks(a)mirage.brooks.af.mil Thomas Weeks GTE SYSTEMS ENGINEER Testing-Integration Center "The Pit" Brooks AFB, DSN 240-5444

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New F700 Series
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 19 Aug '98

19 Aug '98

Okay, so the F700 series has been announced. I am, however, left with many questions: 1. Are these models Alpha based? Pentium? Other? What are the relative speeds, so I can compared to the previous models? The F760 appears to be about 50% faster than the F630, but I'm sure that's spread out over several components, not solely due to the CPU. 2. When can we expect even preliminary SPEC SFS numbers? 3. When can we expect Netbench numbers? One would guess they would be in the range of 30MB/second. 4. What is the maximum network connectivity? The spec sheet mentions 8 PCI slots, but I don't know if that includes those for tape and/or FC-AL. Bruce

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Re: New F700 Series
by Guy Lauterbach 18 Aug '98

18 Aug '98

At 11:44 AM 8/18/98 -0500, Sirbruce wrote: >>| 4. What is the maximum network connectivity? >They don't say whether all 8 slots are really "free" and it >doesn't mention 64bit slots, either. The F760 actually has 9 pci slots, of which one is dedicated to the nvram card (just like in other filer models). Of the remaining 8 slots, 3 are 32-bit pci and 5 are 64-bit pci. And, yes, the power switch is in the back! Hope that helps! rgl

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Re: New F700 Series
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 18 Aug '98

18 Aug '98

On 08/18/98 11:41:33 you wrote: >| 4. What is the maximum network connectivity? The spec sheet ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ emphasis mine >| mentions 8 PCI slots, but I don't know if that includes >| those for tape and/or FC-AL. > >fcal is built in, as is 10/100 ethernet, dual power supplies, cable-less >motherboard. I don't know if the nvram is still a card or not (rather, >I cannot remember). I think the 760 had 4 64bit pci slots, so you >would be limited to 4 gigabit NIC's. > >http://www.netapp.com/products/level3/f700series_techspecs.html > >Has all the data. As I said, I *read* the spec sheets. They don't say whether all 8 slots are really "free" and it doesn't mention 64bit slots, either. Your answers were what I was looking for, but don't say that they're in the spec sheet, 'cause I looked there first and they weren't. Bruce

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RE: /vol and client automounter paths.
by Kelly Wyatt 14 Aug '98

14 Aug '98

We seem to have no problem mounting stuff that is exported as /vol/volN. The automounter mounts it as /nfs/filer/vol/volN. That is OK. It works with /vol/vol0 anyway. And we have a few filers with /vol/<user defined name> that we know works. I realize this is probably not a filer problem and that this won't happen if you have a single volume filer. I just wanted to let people know what we have experienced using the "mixed style" exports. This might come in handy should they ever have a multi-volume filer. We have had no such problems with our single volume 5.01 machines. We are just fortunate (?) that this happened just before the regular monthly outage and we can change the filer exports and reboot all workstations this weekend. Kelly ----- Kelly Wyatt, saskww(a)wnt.sas.com Integrated Solutions Consulting SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Drive / Cary, NC 27513 (919) 677-8000 X4279 (Voice) / (919) 677-4444 (FAX) http://www.sas.com

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RE: /vol and client automounter paths.
by Kelly Wyatt 14 Aug '98

14 Aug '98

I'm curious about this. We have had a situation where our automounter daemon (amd on hpux10.20) has been chewing up CPU trying to resolve a mount to a filer: Aug 13 21:30:00 build034 amd[4993]: No mount point for /remote/ronco/vol/vol1 - skipping Aug 13 21:30:00 build034 amd[552]: "/nfs/ronco.unx.sas.com" on /remote/ronco sti ll active Aug 13 21:34:27 build034 amd[5426]: No mount point for /remote/ronco/vol/vol1 - skipping Aug 13 21:34:27 build034 amd[552]: "/nfs/ronco.unx.sas.com" on /remote/ronco sti ll active This is showing up *hundreds of thousands of times* in the syslogs, and is causing out automounter daemon to take a 50-60% of the CPU across hundreds of workstations, if not thousands and filling disks with syslog entries. Our exports are: / -root=server2:server3 /home -root=server2:server3 /builddir -root=server2:server3 /vol/vol1 -root=server2:server3 Note that /vol/vol1 does exist. So, I read on the NOW site what I have pasted below. The second to the last paragraph is what seems to stand out to me - "If you use paths of the / form for export points in the root volume, the automounter might not be able to mount directories in other volumes, or it might create new directories in your root volume to serve as mount points." We are planning on changing the exports to: /vol/vol0 -root=server2:server3 /vol/vol1 -root=server2:server3 this weekend and rebooting all machines (and changing references from /nfs/filer/builddir to /nfs/filer/vol/vol0/builddir...). We are *really* hoping that this fixes the amd problem. Any thoughts about whether this is going to work or not... or if something else might be causing our automounter problem???? Note that we have this problem only with the filer ronco. The other filers at 5.01 do not have /vol/vol1 yet. Thanks, Kelly Data ONTAP 5.0R2 Export point notation Both / and /vol/vol0 identify the root volume. You can use either form to list exported directories in /etc/exports. For most purposes, the two forms are equivalent. However, when an NFS client requests a list of export points from the filer (for instance, as the result of a showmount -e command), the filer returns the paths exactly as they appear in /etc/exports. This affects the behavior of the automounter. For example, if toaster exports /, the automounter mounts the root volume for toaster on /net/toaster, but if it exports /vol/vol0, the root volume appears in /net/toaster/vol/vol0. If you have more than one volume, use paths of the /vol/vol0 form for all your export points in the root volume. If you use paths of the / form for export points in the root volume, the automounter might not be able to mount directories in other volumes, or it might create new directories in your root volume to serve as mount points. Note that /vol/ is not a valid syntax for filers

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Re: /vol and client automounter paths.
by nevets＠eng.adaptec.com 13 Aug '98

13 Aug '98

Ummm, as far as the manual was concerned /vol/vol0/home should be accessible over the automounter as /home, likewise anything else on vol0. From what I read (which may be completely incorrect ;) only for volumes other than vol0 are you required to use the /vol/vol# syntax. I've set up a number of filer here and I'm referencing all homes and projects from /vol/vol0/dirname as filer:/dirname successfully. Soooo, looking at one of my filers... All directories in /vol/vol0 are "mirrored" in / under /net/filername, and also available over the automounter that way. --Steve > From jdavis(a)CS.Arizona.EDU Thu Aug 13 14:56:53 1998 > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:19:13 -0700 (MST) > From: Jim Davis <jdavis(a)CS.Arizona.EDU> > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: /vol and client automounter paths. > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Due to some sloppy RTFMing, I apparently missed that as part of moving > from one F520 to another I need to change every fscking client's home > automounter map entries from > > user server:/home/user > > to > > user server:/vol/vol0/home/user > > (Or maybe try some symlink tricks but I'd really like to avoid that for > efficiency and general non-grossness.) > > <freak out>Aww, nutbunnies!<freak in> > > There appears to be some backward-compatibility mode iff (and the manual > isn't crystal-clear on this) you upgrade from 4.x to 5.x. Then apparently > server:/home/user will still work. > > But (he whines) what would've been so awful about making that a special > case for (unupgraded) 5.x too? Rejiggering n+1 automounter maps is not my > idea of a good time, and for various embarrassing reasons it's not just a > matter of updating the NIS master or anything that simple. > > Not to mention explaining to certain people here who have /net/server/home > hardwired into their heads that they'll have to use the oh-so-intuitive > /net/server/vol/vol0/home instead... > __________________________________________________________________ From the SUN of: Steve D'Aurora ESN - Engineering Systems and Network administrator phone: 408 957-2351 email: nevets(a)eng.adaptec.com Adaptec Milpitas, CA, USA __________________________________________________________________

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New Netapp models soon?
by Brian Tao 12 Aug '98

12 Aug '98

What's this I hear about F7xx-series filers? Double the performance of the F630 at the high end (the F760), fiber channel, clusterable, etc.? Rumours or facts? Give up the gory details! :) -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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rsync and stale nfs file handles
by Alexei Rodriguez 12 Aug '98

12 Aug '98

Hey folks. I have run into a problem I had not seen before and need some other eyeballs to look at it. We have some staging servers out in our field offices with local disk. The folks at these offices are editing content throughout the day. At intervals throughout the day, the content from the staging servers gets pushed to our hosting facility via rsync. The problem we are seeing is that apache is getting quite a few " reason: stat: Stale NFS file handle (errno = 151)" errors. We are using Solaris 2.5.1 servers and mount the filer with v3 (udp). We invoke rsync with: -a -b --delete -e $SSH $local $remote Is there a way for us to get around the client side caching of file handles? Or is there a different problem? Has anyone done something like this before? Help? Thanks. Alex

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Tape drives
by pradeep＠algorithmics.com 12 Aug '98

12 Aug '98

Hi there, I would like to know if it is at all possible to attach a DLT7000 tape drive using a single-ended SCSI interface to an F520 filer. Please let me know if this is doable. Thanks. Pradeep. -- Pradeep Subramaniam, Snr. Sys. Admin. | You can fool some of the people Algorithmics Inc., Toronto, On., Canada.| all the time, but not all the e-mail: pradeep(a)algorithmics.com | people all the time. phone: (416) 217 4203 | - Yet another brilliant philosopher fax: (416) 971 6263 | *******************************************************************************

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NetApp network aliasing / gigabit redundancy
by Daniel Quinlan 12 Aug '98

12 Aug '98

We're considering replacing the fast ethernet (some single cards, mostly quad cards) on all of our multi-homed NetApps with a single gigabit ethernet interface. We think it's a good idea, except for the pain associated with ending use of old IP numbers for deprecated interfaces. Does anyone have experience with aliasing interfaces to allow use of ex-interfaces on NFS servers, especially on a NetApp? Also, since I'm nervous about exercising rarely-used code paths on these things, I'd like to hear about anyone's experiences with address aliasing on NetApps in general. Finally, can anyone tell me about network redundancy on NetApps hooked up with gigabit card(s)? We're using 3Com switches. Dan

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How to remove good drive from Raid volume?
by Gordon Keegan 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

After configuring a new 520 with 12 data drives, 1 parity, and 1 hot spare, it was decided that one of the data drives should be reconfigured as a hot (or cold) spare. There's no data on the machine yet, so re-initialize is an option, I just can't find where the instructions are in the manuals or on the NOW web site. I don't want to 'disk fail' it unless there's a way to restore its status as a good drive. Any suggestions and/or solutions would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks! -- Gordon Keegan, M4-135 Phone: (508) 261-4696 Motorola ISG Fax: (508) 261-5757 20 Cabot Boulevard Mansfield, MA 02048 email: lgk011(a)dma.isg.mot.com

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Re: How to remove good drive from Raid volume?
by sirbruce＠ix.netcom.com 11 Aug '98

11 Aug '98

On 08/10/98 17:34:08 you wrote: > > >After configuring a new 520 with 12 data drives, 1 parity, and >1 hot spare, it was decided that one of the data drives should >be reconfigured as a hot (or cold) spare. There's no data on >the machine yet, so re-initialize is an option, I just can't >find where the instructions are in the manuals or on the NOW >web site. I don't want to 'disk fail' it unless there's a way >to restore its status as a good drive. Any suggestions and/or >solutions would be GREATLY appreciated! Go ahead and re-initialize and then re-setup the filer. Boot from the floppy disk to do this. Bruce

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Fixed: NFS processes using mount point question...
by julie.stephen＠vf.vodafone.co.uk 06 Aug '98

06 Aug '98

Hi, We found out that if you specify the hostname:/mountpoint with fuser -k you can kill off dead/hung process. We were hitting the problem due to typing fuser -k /localmountpoint. Thanks anyway! Julie

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CIFS and NT ACLs experiences
by Garrett Burke 06 Aug '98

06 Aug '98

Hi All, A word of warning - OnTap 5.1 with its full NT ACLs has some problems. From bitter and ongoing experience I wouldn't advise using it on a production filer. If you are running this I'd advise getting onto netapp to get the latest bug fixes. I have been advised to run whack. Still haven't dared switch quotas back on. I used to think that those giving off about the quality of netapp SW were being a bit harsh, but now I'm not so sure. I know I'm running an early release, but never again. The troops will just have to wait for the new fetures. GB -- Garrett Burke, Network Admin,Managed Solutions Corp. 32 Upper Mount St., Dublin, Ireland. burkeg(a)msc.ie +353-1-661-4840 A jug of wine, a loaf of bread and thou.

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NFS processes using mount point question...
by julie.stephen＠vf.vodafone.co.uk 06 Aug '98

06 Aug '98

Hi, We are using two NetApp F630's which replicate each other so that in the event of failure of one, the clients using that one can be switched over. We are using HP clients so would like to run fuser -ck to kill the processes hanging on the dead mount points. Unfortunately this does not work since fuser first attempts to stat the mount point and then seems to hang indefinately. We can kill the processes manually, but putting the list of "dead" processes together is going to be difficult without fuser. We thought of running fuser at regular points throughout the day while both servers are available and using this list of processes, but this is not a guaranteed way of capturing everything. Does anyone have any ideas ? Does lsof behave better on hung nfs mount points ? Many thanks Julie Stephen Vodafone Ltd. UK.

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Re: Renaming quota trees
by Daniel Quinlan 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Brian Tao <taob(a)risc.org> writes: > The magic that "quota qtree" performs isn't needed for the rename > then? I thought there was something in /etc/db/quota.db had to be > updated to stay consistent. In any case, I'll give that a try to > see how it works. Thanks. I could be wrong. I'd suggest trying a test case. I know that after the "mv", "quota qtree" does show the new name, so I assume what I described will work. - Dan

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Re: Renaming quota trees
by Daniel Quinlan 01 Aug '98

01 Aug '98

Brian Tao <taob(a)risc.org> writes: > Is this possible? We have some transition requirements that would > be greatly eased if we could fire up a quota tree under, say, > /devtree at first, and then rename it to /tree once we roll the new > filesystem into production. Yes, it is. Just shut off quotas, "mv" the tree, change /etc/quotas, and restart quotas. You may have some stale file handle issues on clients afterwards if there was an old tree with similarly named files in active use. Dan

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Moving a secondary volume to primary
by marc_merlin＠magic.metawire.com 30 Jul '98

30 Jul '98

Hi, I have a filer with two volumes, and I'd like to remove the first volume and keep the second one only. Is it as easy as doing: - copy of /etc from the first one to the second one - remove the firt volume - boot on floppy - download - reboot. ? Also, not that I have any reason to do that, but if I wanted to put the first volume back, how does the filer know which volume to boot on? Marc -- Home page: http://magic.metawire.com/~merlin/ (browser friendly) Finger merlin(a)magic.metawire.com for PGP key and other contact information

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by Blake Cooper 29 Jul '98

29 Jul '98

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midnight disk failure
by Daniel Quinlan 28 Jul '98

28 Jul '98

Does something about the timing of this disk failure strike anyone as odd or is it just me? I'm curious to know whether some checks only done once an hour, once a day, or if something else is at play. This happened on an 18 day old F630/FiberChannel running 5.0.1D1. Dan ------- start of cut text -------------- Mon Jul 27 23:00:00 PDT [statd]: 11:00pm up 17 days, 18 mins, 319161196 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 0 HTTP ops Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [isp2100_main]: Disk 8.29(0xfffffc00008e2330): request failed after retry #20 Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [raid_stripe_owner]: Read on data disk 8.29 in volume vol0, RAID group 0, failed; reverting to degraded mode. Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [isp2100_main]: Disk 8.29(0xfffffc00008de230): opcode=0x2a sector 0 not ready (2 4, 1) Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [isp2100_main]: Disk 8.29(0xfffffc00008de230): request failed after retry #20 Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [isp2100_main]: Disk 8.29(0xfffffc00008da610): opcode=0x2a sector 0 not ready (2 4, 1) Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [isp2100_main]: Disk 8.29(0xfffffc00008da610): request failed after retry #20 Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [raid_stripe_owner]: Read on data disk 8.29 in volume vol0, RAID group 0, failed; entered degraded mode. Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [raid_stripe_owner]: One disk is missing from volume vol0, RAID group 0. A "hot spare" disk is available and the missing disk will be reconstructed on the spare disk. Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [isp2100_main]: Disk 8.29(0xfffffc00008d9910): opcode=0x28 sector 0 not ready (2 4, 1) Mon Jul 27 23:59:59 PDT [isp2100_main]: Disk 8.29(0xfffffc00008d9910): request failed after retry #20 Tue Jul 28 00:00:00 PDT [statd]: 12:00am up 17 days, 1:18 319612667 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 0 HTTP ops Tue Jul 28 00:00:00 PDT [asup_main]: System Notification mail sent ------- end ----------------------------

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remove snapshot, or what?
by Dan Bethe 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Hi there guys. I'm not the regular NetApp tech around here, so I have a quick weekend maintenance question. Our filer had about -60MB (less than zero) free when I last checked it. We're deleting plenty of space now, but it's of course moving the deleted data to the snapshot storage. Is it proper to delete the snapshot storage manually? Or will the filer give it up in favor of the normal NFS export? We have, for example, some '.snapshot' directories that contain redundant data. Is 'rm -rf' proper there, or what? Thanks a lot.

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snapshot issue solved
by Dan Bethe 26 Jul '98

26 Jul '98

Ok never mind. I see that the 'snap' command does that. I removed the oldest snapshot and we had 450Mb free after a few mins. Thanks anyway! :)

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ndmpcopy?
by Jim Davis 25 Jul '98

25 Jul '98

I need to move about 56GB of data from one F520 to another. Does anyone have experience using ndmpcopy for that? It looks like it might fit the bill, but I'd be interested in hearing of any good-bad-indifferent experiences with it, and particularly what rate it can transfer data from one filer to another.

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