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re-use disks?
by Jen Hamilton 29 Jun '00

29 Jun '00

Are disks re-useable? Or are they one-time only? Thanks, Jen Hamilton

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RE: FilerA:vol1 -> FilerB:vol0
by Jason.Cody＠netapp.com 29 Jun '00

29 Jun '00

No, you won't have to issue the download command becuase you are simply putting an "extra" set of files on those "vol1" disks. You are not actually upgrading the OS of the filer that those disks are attached. Jason Cody Network Appliance Professional Services Engineer East Mid-Atlantic Region jcody(a)netapp.com 410-299-6290 Cell 888-374-7504 Pager 408-822-8895 Voice Mail 801-340-7018 eFax -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Ross [mailto:chuckr@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 8:55 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: FilerA:vol1 -> FilerB:vol0 Do you have to run the download command? Chuck "Timothy A. McCarthy" wrote: > > And let us not forget that if the "vol1" disks are clean, or have data > on them but there is no /etc directory on it, it will go right into > setup and complain about a few tings missing, like timezone stuff > and java stuff. > > Do yourself a favor, mount the "vol1" on a host someplace as root/Administrator. > Then do an "upgrade" to vol1. This will simply put the needed files in place. > Then do the following on your current filer: > > vol offline vol1 > halt > --> physically remove vol1 and attach it to the new filer > -->boot up the new filer with disks attached > --> boot from from floppy for this release > --> when you get to the 1-5 menu, choose #5, Maintenance Mode. > --> now issue the following: > vol online vol1 > vol rename vol1 vol0 > vol options vol0 root > reboot (Without the floppies) >

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RE: HVD or LVD scsi connector?
by MBrookes＠netapp.com 29 Jun '00

29 Jun '00

Brian, The F/W/D SCSI connector on the back of the your F760 is high voltage, but I'm curious why you need to connect a dedicated machine to the media changer. I'f you're not using an NDMP compliant backup package, you might like to take a look at the NDMP tools on NOW. Regards, Matt. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hostetter [mailto:BrianH@dice.com] Sent: 29 June 2000 16:25 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: HVD or LVD scsi connector? Is the scsi connecter on the back of a 760 LVD or HVD? I am trying to hook a tape drive up and need to get a controller for a Linux box that will talk the same language as my netapps. I need this controller to control the media changer of the jukebox. --Brian

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RE: HVD or LVD scsi connector?
by abond＠netapp.com 29 Jun '00

29 Jun '00

Brian, It's not so much the NetApp and the Linux box that need to be compatible - the filer will connect to the tape drive *only*, and the Linux box to the media changer *only* - they are separate busses (of course, it's likely that the library will have the same (HVD or LVD) interface for both the library and the drive). Since the filer's SCSI port is fast/wide/diff HVD, then the tape drive will need to have the same. If you use NDMP-compliant backup software, then you can connect the media changer as well as the tape drive directly to the NetApp filer. Regards, Andrew > -----Original Message----- > From: Mewburn, Luke > Sent: 29 June 2000 16:43 > To: Brian Hostetter; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: HVD or LVD scsi connector? > > > > Is the scsi connecter on the back of a 760 LVD or HVD? I am > > trying to hook a tape drive up and need to get a controller for a > > Linux box that will talk the same language as my netapps. I need > > this controller to control the media changer of the jukebox. > > Fast wide differential, AKA HVD. >

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HVD or LVD scsi connector?
by Brian Hostetter 29 Jun '00

29 Jun '00

Is the scsi connecter on the back of a 760 LVD or HVD? I am trying to hook a tape drive up and need to get a controller for a Linux box that will talk the same language as my netapps. I need this controller to control the media changer of the jukebox. --Brian

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Re: weirdness with our Netapp F760 and DLT tape drive
by Rob Worman 29 Jun '00

29 Jun '00

Just as an update: -recall that our current testing has removed any Netbackup or robotics from the picture. It's just a Netapp, a SCSI card, and a DLT drive. :) -I'm indeed certain that we're talking about 100% differential SCSI. -I thought I found the problem when I realized that the DLT drive had a SCSI ID of 1. So I set it to 0, rebooted the filer, power cycled the DLT, and saw no difference :( -I have heard from lots of people who aren't having any problems connecting an F760 to a DLT 7k in an STK 9740, so I know it's not some sort of inherent STK-NetApp incompatibility. But I'm reduced, at this point, to finding any possible difference between the SUN drive (that worked) and the STK drive (that doesn't work) - jumpers, firmware, etc. Thanks for the assistance so far, folks. rob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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RE: FilerA:vol1 -> FilerB:vol0
by Aaron.Sims＠netapp.com 29 Jun '00

29 Jun '00

If vol1 on filerA is marked as "root" (use 'vol status' to determine this), then you can remove that shelf from filerA and put it on filerB. FilerB will boot this easily. Once that volume is on filerB, you can do a 'vol rename vol1 vol0' to rename the volume. Of course, this will change what your /etc/exports file will look like. If vol1 is not marked as the root volume, you can still move the disks, but you'll need to boot off floppys and chose the 5 option and issue a 'vol options vol1 root' command. (Or something like that... I don't have a filer handy at the moment to verify) Hope that helps. Aaron > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:07 PM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: FilerA:vol1 -> FilerB:vol0 > > > > I have a populated shelf of disks (one RAID group, one filesystem, one > full shelf of 7 disks) that is vol1 on Filer A. I want to put it on > Filer B, which currently has no disk. Can I do this without > wiping the > data on those disks, which I need? How do I get the boot and system > files on it without destroying the existing volume and filesystem? > > Until next time... > > The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 > 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX > tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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FilerA:vol1 -> FilerB:vol0
by Todd C. Merrill 29 Jun '00

29 Jun '00

I have a populated shelf of disks (one RAID group, one filesystem, one full shelf of 7 disks) that is vol1 on Filer A. I want to put it on Filer B, which currently has no disk. Can I do this without wiping the data on those disks, which I need? How do I get the boot and system files on it without destroying the existing volume and filesystem? Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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two jukeboxes on one machine
by Jay Orr 28 Jun '00

28 Jun '00

Hey all, got another possiably off topic question... In looking for new backup software, we are having to pay quite a premium for having two jukeboxes hanging off of different machines. I was wondering if anyone knows if a Sparc 20 can handle two DLT 8000 jukeboxes hanging off it doing backups, or if I'd need a better machine? I know I should ask sun, but it's not easy to get an answer from them sometimes - I was wondering if anyone had had similar experiences or knowledge about this.. ----------- Jay Orr Systems Administrator Fujitsu Nexion Inc. St. Louis, MO

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Re: weirdness with our Netapp F760 and DLT tape drive
by Steve Kappel 28 Jun '00

28 Jun '00

When the drive is DOWN in volume manager (using "vmoprcmd -d" to see state and "vmoprcmd -down N" to mark drive N as down), you can use robtest (which invokes tldtest). From the description it doesn't sound like a problem with robot control. It sounds like a drive problem. The only thing that the tldtest can do with the drive is unload it. -Steve >Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:19:48 -0700 (PDT) >From: Eyal Traitel <etraitel(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: weirdness with our Netapp F760 and DLT tape drive >To: rob(a)colltech.com, toasters(a)mathworks.com > >Rob, > >Maybe irrlevant, but anyway - >Have you controlled the tape library using "ndmputil" >or Veritas's robot-handling utility (forgot its name) >? > >>From what I know, you need to manually use these >utilities to choose tape and load it to correct drive. > > >Eyal. > > > >--- Rob Worman <rworman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> We have a Netapp filer (F760) that we are trying to >> back up (with Veritas Netbackup, but that's not >> really >> relevant to this question) by way of a >> directly-connected DLT 7000 tape drive in a >> StorageTek >> 9740 tape >> library. >> >> We aren't trying to get the netapp to manage the >> robotic tape handling, we just want to write to the >> tape that's been manually loaded into the drive. To >> keep things simple, we are currently bypassing >> Netbackup and just running the Netapp native dump >> command. Whenever we do so, we see the following: >> >> ********* netapp output below ************** >> stpnas01> dump 0f nrst0a /vol/vol0 >> DUMP: Dumping tape file 1 on nrst0a >> DUMP: creating >> "/vol/vol0/../snapshot_for_backup.6" >> snapshot. >> DUMP: Using Full Volume Dump >> DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Jun 27 >> 14:48:14 2000. >> DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch. >> DUMP: Dumping /vol/vol0/ to nrst0a >> DUMP: mapping (Pass I)[regular files] >> DUMP: mapping (Pass II)[directories] >> DUMP: Tape write failed. >> DUMP: DUMP IS ABORTED >> DUMP: Deleting >> "/vol/vol0/../snapshot_for_backup.6" >> snapshot. >> ******** netapp output above *************** >> >> The kicker here is that if we disconnect the SCSI >> cable from the STK drive and instead hook it up to >> the >> DLT 7k drive in a SUN L280, the same backup finishes >> with no problems everytime. So we know that NDMP >> and >> the Netapp's SCSI card are okay. >> >> We have tried different tapes/drives in the STK >> library, with identical results. These STK drives >> are >> known to be functional, as they have been previously >> connected to our Solaris backup server with no >> problems. >> We've been trying this with DLT drives that are >> alone >> on the SCSI bus, with non-conflicting ID's and >> firmly >> seated connectors and terminators. :) >> >> We toyed with the idea that maybe the Netapp is >> talking single-ended SCSI and since we know the STK >> drive is differential SCSI... but sysconfig (and the >> Netapp product docs) verify that this filer is >> talking >> >> differential SCSI. (and we are quite sure that the >> STK drives are also differential) >> >> Any suggestions as to what's going on here? >> >> TiA >> rob >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from >> anywhere! >> http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > >===== >Yours, >Eyal Traitel >eTraitel(a)yahoo.com, Home: 972-3-5290415 (Tel Aviv) >eTraitel - it's the new eBuzzword ! > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________________________________ Steve Kappel steve.kappel(a)veritas.com VERITAS Software steve.kappel(a)iname.com (Personal)

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F720 Maximum Disk Configuration
by Menachem Kaiser 28 Jun '00

28 Jun '00

Does anyone have a 720 with 14 36GB disks (total 504GB)? Are than any performance issues? Does it require any special release of Ontap? The Now web site mentions this as a possible configuration. Manny

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Implementing User and Group Quotas
by Daniel Oxenhandler 28 Jun '00

28 Jun '00

Friends, We have an F-740 with 14 - 18GB drives (2 hot spares) configured as one large volume. OnTap version 5.3.4R2. Security style is mixed. Currently it is being used by mostly UNIX users, with some Windows users, for Home directories and Project directories. There are only about 15 total active users on the Filer currently. The plan is to move the home directories for the remaining 60 or so mostly Windows users onto the Filer. We would like to implement quotas on the Home directories, e.g. 150MB per user. At the same time, we would like to implement quotas on the Project directories -- my thinking is we would do this via a group quota, e.g. 5GB for Group A, 15GB for Group B, etc. My questions are as follows: 1. Will we need to create separate volumes for Home dir's and Projects, so that the quotas will work as we intend (e.g. a user can own files in his Project directory without it counting against his User quota) -- or can we get away with qtrees? My suspicion is that we will need to start from scratch and create at least two volumes to do this. 2. Suggestions for the best strategy to accomplish this, maintaining all CIFS & NFS metadata? We are currently dumping the filer as one big volume to DLT (<35GB). Does the filer's dump command support dump from a directory, so that we could restore to our new volumes or qtrees? Any other strategies? Thanks in advance! Daniel Oxenhandler Network Engineer Sprint Laboratories 650-375-4281

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weirdness with our Netapp F760 and DLT tape drive
by Rob Worman 28 Jun '00

28 Jun '00

We have a Netapp filer (F760) that we are trying to back up (with Veritas Netbackup, but that's not really relevant to this question) by way of a directly-connected DLT 7000 tape drive in a StorageTek 9740 tape library. We aren't trying to get the netapp to manage the robotic tape handling, we just want to write to the tape that's been manually loaded into the drive. To keep things simple, we are currently bypassing Netbackup and just running the Netapp native dump command. Whenever we do so, we see the following: ********* netapp output below ************** stpnas01> dump 0f nrst0a /vol/vol0 DUMP: Dumping tape file 1 on nrst0a DUMP: creating "/vol/vol0/../snapshot_for_backup.6" snapshot. DUMP: Using Full Volume Dump DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Jun 27 14:48:14 2000. DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch. DUMP: Dumping /vol/vol0/ to nrst0a DUMP: mapping (Pass I)[regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II)[directories] DUMP: Tape write failed. DUMP: DUMP IS ABORTED DUMP: Deleting "/vol/vol0/../snapshot_for_backup.6" snapshot. ******** netapp output above *************** The kicker here is that if we disconnect the SCSI cable from the STK drive and instead hook it up to the DLT 7k drive in a SUN L280, the same backup finishes with no problems everytime. So we know that NDMP and the Netapp's SCSI card are okay. We have tried different tapes/drives in the STK library, with identical results. These STK drives are known to be functional, as they have been previously connected to our Solaris backup server with no problems. We've been trying this with DLT drives that are alone on the SCSI bus, with non-conflicting ID's and firmly seated connectors and terminators. :) We toyed with the idea that maybe the Netapp is talking single-ended SCSI and since we know the STK drive is differential SCSI... but sysconfig (and the Netapp product docs) verify that this filer is talking differential SCSI. (and we are quite sure that the STK drives are also differential) Any suggestions as to what's going on here? TiA rob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: weirdness with our Netapp F760 and DLT tape drive
by Eyal Traitel 28 Jun '00

28 Jun '00

Rob, Maybe irrlevant, but anyway - Have you controlled the tape library using "ndmputil" or Veritas's robot-handling utility (forgot its name) ? From what I know, you need to manually use these utilities to choose tape and load it to correct drive. Eyal. --- Rob Worman <rworman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > We have a Netapp filer (F760) that we are trying to > back up (with Veritas Netbackup, but that's not > really > relevant to this question) by way of a > directly-connected DLT 7000 tape drive in a > StorageTek > 9740 tape > library. > > We aren't trying to get the netapp to manage the > robotic tape handling, we just want to write to the > tape that's been manually loaded into the drive. To > keep things simple, we are currently bypassing > Netbackup and just running the Netapp native dump > command. Whenever we do so, we see the following: > > ********* netapp output below ************** > stpnas01> dump 0f nrst0a /vol/vol0 > DUMP: Dumping tape file 1 on nrst0a > DUMP: creating > "/vol/vol0/../snapshot_for_backup.6" > snapshot. > DUMP: Using Full Volume Dump > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Jun 27 > 14:48:14 2000. > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch. > DUMP: Dumping /vol/vol0/ to nrst0a > DUMP: mapping (Pass I)[regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II)[directories] > DUMP: Tape write failed. > DUMP: DUMP IS ABORTED > DUMP: Deleting > "/vol/vol0/../snapshot_for_backup.6" > snapshot. > ******** netapp output above *************** > > The kicker here is that if we disconnect the SCSI > cable from the STK drive and instead hook it up to > the > DLT 7k drive in a SUN L280, the same backup finishes > with no problems everytime. So we know that NDMP > and > the Netapp's SCSI card are okay. > > We have tried different tapes/drives in the STK > library, with identical results. These STK drives > are > known to be functional, as they have been previously > connected to our Solaris backup server with no > problems. > We've been trying this with DLT drives that are > alone > on the SCSI bus, with non-conflicting ID's and > firmly > seated connectors and terminators. :) > > We toyed with the idea that maybe the Netapp is > talking single-ended SCSI and since we know the STK > drive is differential SCSI... but sysconfig (and the > Netapp product docs) verify that this filer is > talking > > differential SCSI. (and we are quite sure that the > STK drives are also differential) > > Any suggestions as to what's going on here? > > TiA > rob > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from > anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ ===== Yours, Eyal Traitel eTraitel(a)yahoo.com, Home: 972-3-5290415 (Tel Aviv) eTraitel - it's the new eBuzzword ! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: Legato & Veritas questions
by Brian Hostetter 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

I am currently evaluating 3 different ndmp backup products. I expect to pick one in about 2 weeks. So far I have been most impressed with Time Navigator by Quadratec Software. I have 2 760's and a Qualstar 4000 Series AIT2 loader. The nice thing is that my 760's are not going to be in production till our fiber switch arrives which is slated for Aug 1, which gives me a nice little test environment. I will post any findings to the list. I encourage anyone else that has exp with any ndmp backups to chime in, and help us find a good solution. --Brian <<< Jay Orr <orrjl(a)stl.nexen.com> 6/23 11:33a >>> Since we're looking at different backup solutions, wondering if I could pick the group's respective brains... First, for non NDMP backup, is there special client packs required for either (and is netapp dump supported)? I'm going through Sun since they sell both and they were unaware of any. Second, any thing to be aware/careful about with either backup solution? Third, any problems with ClearCase and either package? Much thanks! ----------- Jay Orr Systems Administrator Fujitsu Nexion Inc. St. Louis, MO

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AIT2 50G tapes
by Brian Hostetter 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

I just installed a Qualstar 4660 AIT2 changer with the new 50G native tapes. However my filer only has options for AIT1 25G tapes and AIT2 36G tapes. They are the same basic tape, just a shorter length. Anyone used the 50G tapes yet? --Brian

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RE: Implementing User and Group Quotas
by mark.muhlestein＠netapp.com 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

A couple of things to be aware of: * You can't convert an existing directory to a qtree so you might have to move some things around. * Make sure your NT users are mapping to distinct UNIX users. By default, if there is no UNIX user corresponding to an NT user those users are mapped to "pcuser". That's not what you want because all NT users will have the same quota since quotas are currently only allowed for UNIX security objects. You can test the mappings using the "wcc" filer console command. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Mohler,Anissa > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:50 AM > To: daniel(a)sprintlabs.com > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: Implementing User and Group Quotas > > > Daniel... two brief answers to your questions. > > #1. You do not have to start from scratch and create two > volumes. You can create > the quotas you want using qtrees. In fact for maximum > performance you would be > best off with the one larger volume than two smaller ones given the > configuration you described. > > #2. The filer's native dump command works for directories > (qtrees) as well as > entire volumes. Just remember when you go to restore a qtree > you will need to > create the qtree first, then run the restore. > > The Data ONTAP System Administrator's Guide and the NOW site > both have more > detailed information on configuring qtrees and running > dump/restore. I'm sure > the other toaster users here can offer great information > about what is working > (or not working) for them. > > :-----Original Message----- > :From: Daniel Oxenhandler [mailto:daniel@sprintlabs.com] > :Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:14 AM > :To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > :Subject: Implementing User and Group Quotas > : > : > :Friends, > : > :We have an F-740 with 14 - 18GB drives (2 hot spares) > configured as one > :large volume. OnTap version 5.3.4R2. Security style is > :mixed. Currently it is being used by mostly UNIX users, > with some Windows > :users, for Home directories and Project directories. There > are only about 15 > :total active users on the Filer currently. The plan is to > move the home > :directories for the remaining 60 or so mostly Windows users > onto the Filer. > : > :We would like to implement quotas on the Home directories, > :e.g. 150MB per user. At the same time, we would like to > implement quotas on > :the Project directories -- my thinking is we would do this > via a group > :quota, e.g. 5GB for Group A, 15GB for Group B, etc. > : > :My questions are as follows: > : > :1. Will we need to create separate volumes for Home dir's and > :Projects, so that the quotas will work as we intend (e.g. a > user can own > :files in his Project directory without it counting against > his User quota) > :-- or can we get away with qtrees? My suspicion is that we > will need to start > from > :scratch and create at least two volumes to do this. > : > :2. Suggestions for the best strategy to accomplish this, > :maintaining all CIFS & NFS metadata? We are currently > dumping the filer as > :one big volume to DLT (<35GB). Does the filer's dump > command support dump from > a > :directory, so that we could restore to our new volumes or > qtrees? Any other > :strategies? > : > :Thanks in advance! > : > :Daniel Oxenhandler > :Network Engineer > :Sprint Laboratories > :650-375-4281 >

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RE: Implementing User and Group Quotas
by Anissa.Mohler＠netapp.com 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Daniel... two brief answers to your questions. #1. You do not have to start from scratch and create two volumes. You can create the quotas you want using qtrees. In fact for maximum performance you would be best off with the one larger volume than two smaller ones given the configuration you described. #2. The filer's native dump command works for directories (qtrees) as well as entire volumes. Just remember when you go to restore a qtree you will need to create the qtree first, then run the restore. The Data ONTAP System Administrator's Guide and the NOW site both have more detailed information on configuring qtrees and running dump/restore. I'm sure the other toaster users here can offer great information about what is working (or not working) for them. :-----Original Message----- :From: Daniel Oxenhandler [mailto:daniel@sprintlabs.com] :Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:14 AM :To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' :Subject: Implementing User and Group Quotas : : :Friends, : :We have an F-740 with 14 - 18GB drives (2 hot spares) configured as one :large volume. OnTap version 5.3.4R2. Security style is :mixed. Currently it is being used by mostly UNIX users, with some Windows :users, for Home directories and Project directories. There are only about 15 :total active users on the Filer currently. The plan is to move the home :directories for the remaining 60 or so mostly Windows users onto the Filer. : :We would like to implement quotas on the Home directories, :e.g. 150MB per user. At the same time, we would like to implement quotas on :the Project directories -- my thinking is we would do this via a group :quota, e.g. 5GB for Group A, 15GB for Group B, etc. : :My questions are as follows: : :1. Will we need to create separate volumes for Home dir's and :Projects, so that the quotas will work as we intend (e.g. a user can own :files in his Project directory without it counting against his User quota) :-- or can we get away with qtrees? My suspicion is that we will need to start from :scratch and create at least two volumes to do this. : :2. Suggestions for the best strategy to accomplish this, :maintaining all CIFS & NFS metadata? We are currently dumping the filer as :one big volume to DLT (<35GB). Does the filer's dump command support dump from a :directory, so that we could restore to our new volumes or qtrees? Any other :strategies? : :Thanks in advance! : :Daniel Oxenhandler :Network Engineer :Sprint Laboratories :650-375-4281

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Re: Toasters
by Eyal Traitel 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

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RE: PCNFS file/directory permission.
by Adam.Fox＠netapp.com 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

There is probably a way to do it via PC-NFS, but you can also use a free NT tool from NetApp called SecureShare Access. It's a dll that is used by things like Windows Explorer. It's a tab like the security tab for windows. Give it a try if you like. http://now.netapp.com/NOW/tools/supported.shtml It's near the bottom. Don't confuse it with the Account Migrator, you want the SecureShare Access. I use it all the time! -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Amy Cheng [mailto:amy.cheng@motorola.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:29 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: PCNFS file/directory permission. > > > Hi forks, > > I have known how to export filer to PC with PCNFS software, would you > please tell me how to control unix file permission under > NT environment? > > Thanks > > Amy >

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RE: Toasters
by Brassart, Alain 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Please remove immediately my mane from this mailing list. This is a violation to create mailing list without green light of the person concerned -----Original Message----- From: Eyal Traitel [mailto:etraitel@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 7:03 AM To: Robby Pedrica; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Toasters Send a message to majordomo(a)mathworks.com with a body of "subscribe toasters" or "help" to get help on majordomo. Can someone from Mathworks add to every email of the mailing list some line about it ? In cramsession.com they do it, and it's very nice... Eyal. --- Robby Pedrica <robby(a)ct.cash.co.za> wrote: > Dear Toasters, > > Is it possible you could send me info on how to join > the Toasters newsgroup ... > > Regards > > Robby Pedrica > Support Consultant > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Maxtec --- OWS --- CAD/CAM > 10 Warbler Close, Montague Gardens > Cape Town, South Africa, 7441 > > Tel: +27 21 555 1402 > Fax: +27 21 555 1404 > ----------------------------------- > > BEGIN:VCARD > VERSION:2.1 > N:Pedrica;Robby > FN:Robby Pedrica > ORG:Maxtec | OWS | CAD/CAM;ESS > TITLE:Support Consultant > NOTE;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:--- Network Appliance > ---=0D=0A--- Cobalt ---=0D=0A--- Alteon ---=0D=0A--- > C= > ycle --- > TEL;WORK;VOICE:+27 8241 68696 > TEL;WORK;FAX:+27 21 5551404 > ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;+27 21 > 5551402;10 Warbler Close=0D=0AMontague Gardens;Cape > Town;;;South Afr= > ica > LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:+27 21 > 5551402=0D=0A10 Warbler Close=0D=0AMontague > Gardens=0D=0ACape Town= > =0D=0ASouth Africa > ADR;HOME:;;;Cape Town;;7441;South Africa > LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Cape Town > 7441=0D=0ASouth Africa > X-WAB-GENDER:2 > URL: > URL:http://www.maxtec.co.za/ > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:robby@ct.cash.co.za > REV:20000626T143811Z > END:VCARD > ===== Yours, Eyal Traitel eTraitel(a)yahoo.com, Home: 972-3-5290415 (Tel Aviv) eTraitel - it's the new eBuzzword ! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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PCNFS file/directory permission.
by Amy Cheng 27 Jun '00

27 Jun '00

Hi forks, I have known how to export filer to PC with PCNFS software, would you please tell me how to control unix file permission under NT environment? Thanks Amy

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RE: Problem in symbolic links
by mark.muhlestein＠netapp.com 26 Jun '00

26 Jun '00

The cifs.symlinks.enable option just controls whether or not symlinks are followed by CIFS client access. Pre-existing symlinks are fine. Typical problems with CIFS and symlinks are * By default the filer will not follow symbolic links which result in cyclic directory structure. Since CIFS clients don't understand symlinks, we display them as if they were the same object as the destination of the symlink. Programs like "FastFind", which tries to index directories, wind up getting very confused if you have symlinks that refer to directories above the current one. If it is critical to follow such symlinks anyway, you can turn off the cifs.symlinks.cycleguard option. * Symlinks that leave the share are not permitted. That is because it would violate the share-level permissions, or even allow access to portions of the filesystem that were not intended to be shared. Also, symlinks that refer to destinations off the filer are not supported. These types of symlinks however will be supported in the near future using a secure method. Mark Muhlestein -- mmm(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Derek Kelly [mailto:derek.kelly@genomecorp.com] > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 7:05 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: Problem in symbolic links > > > Is it possible that the option only works with symlinks > created *after* > the option is enabled? > > Derek Kelly > Genomecorp > > > On 6/26/00 at 4:16 AM, abond(a)netapp.com wrote: > > > The option name is actually cifs.symlinks.enable > > > > You may also need to look at cifs.symlinks.cycleguard if > the symlinks > > start with > > .. or .. > > > > Also you may need to create/modify /etc/symlink.translations if the > path > > the > > unix clients follow is not the same path the filer would have to > follow. > > > > See the manpages for options and symlink.translations for > more detail. > > > > Andrew > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: bhaskar.g(a)philips.com [mailto:bhaskar.g@philips.com] > > > Sent: 26 June 2000 12:03 > > > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > > > Subject: Problem in symbolic links > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > We are facing problem in accessing the Doc files which are > > > symbolic links on the Netapp box from a PC. > > > Please can you let us know how to access that. We tried with > > > the option > > > > > > option cifs.symlink.enable on/off > > > also but without success. > > > > > > kind regards > > > > > > Bhaskar G > > > Philips Semiconductors, > > > #3, Sterling Square,Madras Bank Road, > > > Off St Mark's Road,BANGALORE-560 001. > > > Voice : +91 80 222 9200 Ext 5060 > > > Fax: +91 80 2229700 > > > > [dkelly(a)genomecorp.com - CSSG] > If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kickboxing. > >

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RE: A question about /etc/log/httpd.log
by Andy.Hatcher＠netapp.com 26 Jun '00

26 Jun '00

The http log is bufferred in a 16k memory buffer but should be flushed to disk no less often than once a minute. If this isn't happening, please report it as a bug and be sure to include your OnTap version. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Thompson [mailto:cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 7:31 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: A question about /etc/log/httpd.log > > > We run an F740 which is not licensed for HTTP. Nevertheless, > it listens > on port 80 and rejects all requests with a "503 HTTP not enabled", and > also logs them in /etc/log/httpd.log. That's actually > sometimes convenient, > as it shows up hackers doing site-wide scans for WWW > exposures, without > them being too lost in noise. > > However, there's a peculiarity about the way > /etc/log/httpd.log is written > which I would like to understand better. It seems as though > entries are > often not actually written for hours or even days, until a cluster of > entries (typically those from our own "friendly probing" > service!) fills > up some sort of buffer. > > Chris Thompson University of Cambridge > Computing Service, > Email: cet1(a)ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, > Phone: +44 1223 334715 United Kingdom. >

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Toasters
by robby＠ct.cash.co.za 26 Jun '00

26 Jun '00

Dear Toasters, Is it possible you could send me info on how to join the Toasters newsgroup ... Regards Robby Pedrica Support Consultant ------------------------------------------------------------ Maxtec --- OWS --- CAD/CAM 10 Warbler Close, Montague Gardens Cape Town, South Africa, 7441 Tel: +27 21 555 1402 Fax: +27 21 555 1404 -----------------------------------

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