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Splitting large volumes
by Premanshu Jain 29 Aug '00

29 Aug '00

I had a 550 GB volume on my 740 Filer and need to split into two during my plan to migrate the stuff on a new 760 Filer. Can somebody suggest a nice way out...? prem -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Sherman [mailto:ajs@ajs.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:25 PM To: Bruce Sterling Woodcock Cc: Sam Schorr; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Console "Servers" On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:09:41PM -0700, Bruce Sterling Woodcock wrote: > From: "Sam Schorr" <sschorr(a)homestead-inc.com> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:37 AM > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a console connection server? > > We have 14 filers and growing and I'm looking for some > > centralized, easy serial connection box. I have used Annex in the > > past for UNIX, but thought maybe some folks out there in > > toasterland might have some ideas to share. > Livingston^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hucent Portmasters (2e) also > work well and might be a little cheaper than an Annex. On the pricy side, we have a Cisco 2511, and it does a very nice job. -- Aaron Sherman Systems Architect HighWired.com -- The global high school community http://www.highwired.com 300 North Beacon Street Watertown, MA 02472 (617) 926-1850 x238 (617) 926-1861 fax asherman(a)highwired-inc.com / ICQ#43677395 / Y!ajstrader "We had some good machines, but they don't work no more." -"Faded Flowers" / Shriekback

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RE: Splitting large volumes
by Brookes, Matt 29 Aug '00

29 Aug '00

Hi Jain, Take a look at "Migrating Data Between NetApp Filers" http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3018.html It doesn't cover all the possibilities, (such as connecting the source drives to the destination filer, which has a number of issues you need to be comfortable with), but it will give you a good overview of most of the options available to you. Also some, such as volcopy & SnapMirror, wont apply in this case where you're splitting the volume. Regards, Matt. > -----Original Message----- > From: Premanshu Jain [mailto:PrJain@shastanets.com] > Sent: 29 August 2000 01:13 > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Splitting large volumes > > > I had a 550 GB volume on my 740 Filer and need to split into > two during my > plan to migrate the stuff on a new 760 Filer. Can somebody > suggest a nice > way out...? > prem > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Sherman [mailto:ajs@ajs.com] > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:25 PM > To: Bruce Sterling Woodcock > Cc: Sam Schorr; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: Console "Servers" > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:09:41PM -0700, Bruce Sterling > Woodcock wrote: > > > From: "Sam Schorr" <sschorr(a)homestead-inc.com> > > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:37 AM > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a console connection server? > > > We have 14 filers and growing and I'm looking for some > > > centralized, easy serial connection box. I have used Annex in the > > > past for UNIX, but thought maybe some folks out there in > > > toasterland might have some ideas to share. > > > Livingston^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hucent Portmasters (2e) also > > work well and might be a little cheaper than an Annex. > > On the pricy side, we have a Cisco 2511, and it does a very nice job. > > -- > Aaron Sherman > Systems Architect > HighWired.com -- The global high school community > http://www.highwired.com > > 300 North Beacon Street > Watertown, MA 02472 > (617) 926-1850 x238 > (617) 926-1861 fax > asherman(a)highwired-inc.com / ICQ#43677395 / Y!ajstrader > > "We had some good machines, but they don't work no more." > -"Faded Flowers" / Shriekback >

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RE: Removing disks from a volume
by Mohler, Jeff 29 Aug '00

29 Aug '00

Its my understanding that the filer will not (by default) allow you to consume all disks in a system and leave no spares. (this answers the initial issue of running out of spares) But on the other hand pre-installation planning cannot be over stated. -----Original Message----- From: Tuc [mailto:ttsg@ttsg.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 6:51 PM To: mikey(a)remedy.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Removing disks from a volume > > I agree, I think this is a really good idea for an enhancement request. > Especially useful for inexperienced admins (or those muddle-headed from > their 4th 18-hour day this week). > After this weekend, an option that double checks when you initially install the filer to ask "I know you said you wanted to add 2 disks to the root group, did you really mean this or was it 2 disks total you want in the root group". Only took me an hour to recover, but STILL! Thanks, Tuc/TTSG > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:37 AM > To: Brian Tao > Cc: Mike Sphar; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: Removing disks from a volume > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 11:12:14AM -0400, Brian Tao wrote: > > > > Indeed... recovery could be costly and/or awkward. Perhaps Netapp > > would consider a "safety feature" enhancement for "vol add/create" > > command where by default it will not allow a situation in which a > > volume/raidgroup is left with no hot spares. Add a "-f" switch (or > > whatever) to force an override. Warm fuzzy feature. :) > > This is a great idea. And should be only a couple line of intern-level > code to implement too. > > -- Jeff >

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by ScottUCE＠aol.com 29 Aug '00

29 Aug '00

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Problems with NetBackup schedules
by Rick Stevens 29 Aug '00

29 Aug '00

Fellow toasters: We're trying to use Veritas NetBackup 3.2GA (patched to the ...443 patch for Solaris) to backup a couple of f760s. The NDMP module is installed and patched. There's a tape library shared between the two filers, each with 2 AIT-2 drives. The connection between the filers and the library is SCSI-diff, from the main board SCSI connection. NDMPd is running on the filer and we can exercise the robotics with no problems from the NetBackup server (a SPARC Ultra 10 running Solaris 2.7). Everything seems to be configured properly, as far as we can tell. The class we created seems to run "manual backups" without too much problem. But the scheduled backups for large filer volume typically do not complete successfully. Such backups get underway and write some number of gigabytes to tape (like 45GB or more or the 450GB volume) and then the backup ends prematurely with a status 196 (suggesting the backup was trying to run outside its backup window). We tried adding the /etc/system changes suggested in the release notes for Solaris, but this did not seem to help much. Also, does anybody fully understand the interaction between "duration" and the schedules' start times? It looks like backup may be failing when they start BEFORE the duration ends, but when they are still running AFTER the duration ends. --rick _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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Re: Network Appliance Confidential Information
by Darrell Fuhriman 29 Aug '00

29 Aug '00

"Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve(a)opaltelecom.co.uk> writes: > Thats a "no" I think David.. never mind that it's the worst kept secret I've seen in a while. :) Darrell

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RE: Splitting large volumes
by Mohler, Jeff 29 Aug '00

29 Aug '00

There are more than a few ways to do this..but all at the root involve backuping your data, destroying the large volume, and rebuilding <x> smaller volumes. Then restoring that data selectively into whatever volumes you want what data..and rebuilding your /etc/exports and on your clients the shares/mount points so it all still looks like it did before. You could backup to tape, dump to a file on another filer..etc..but theres no easy way out. -----Original Message----- From: Premanshu Jain [mailto:PrJain@shastanets.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 5:13 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Splitting large volumes I had a 550 GB volume on my 740 Filer and need to split into two during my plan to migrate the stuff on a new 760 Filer. Can somebody suggest a nice way out...? prem -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Sherman [mailto:ajs@ajs.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:25 PM To: Bruce Sterling Woodcock Cc: Sam Schorr; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Console "Servers" On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:09:41PM -0700, Bruce Sterling Woodcock wrote: > From: "Sam Schorr" <sschorr(a)homestead-inc.com> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:37 AM > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a console connection server? > > We have 14 filers and growing and I'm looking for some > > centralized, easy serial connection box. I have used Annex in the > > past for UNIX, but thought maybe some folks out there in > > toasterland might have some ideas to share. > Livingston^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hucent Portmasters (2e) also > work well and might be a little cheaper than an Annex. On the pricy side, we have a Cisco 2511, and it does a very nice job. -- Aaron Sherman Systems Architect HighWired.com -- The global high school community http://www.highwired.com 300 North Beacon Street Watertown, MA 02472 (617) 926-1850 x238 (617) 926-1861 fax asherman(a)highwired-inc.com / ICQ#43677395 / Y!ajstrader "We had some good machines, but they don't work no more." -"Faded Flowers" / Shriekback

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Console "Servers"
by Sam Schorr 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Does anyone have a recommendation for a console connection server? We have 14 filers and growing and I'm looking for some centralized, easy serial connection box. I have used Annex in the past for UNIX, but thought maybe some folks out there in toasterland might have some ideas to share. Thanks in advance for any advice! Sam Schorr Homestead.com ph: (650) 549-3152 fax: (650) 364-7329 sschorr(a)homestead-inc.com http://www.homestead.com Homestead: It's a new world. Make your place.

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RE: Console "Servers"
by Premanshu Jain 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

We are using a baynetworks console server. However, its a crude/weiry stuff, but works excellant..... prem Premanshu Jain IS Engineering Support Lead Nortel Networks, Carrier Packet Solutions IP Services Division 2305, Mission College Blvd, Santa Clara, CA 95054 Direct: (408) 565-3573 ESN: 655-3573 eMail: prjain(a)shastanets.com Web: http://www.nortelnetworks.com/ipservices -----Original Message----- From: Sam Schorr [mailto:sschorr@homestead-inc.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:38 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Console "Servers" Does anyone have a recommendation for a console connection server? We have 14 filers and growing and I'm looking for some centralized, easy serial connection box. I have used Annex in the past for UNIX, but thought maybe some folks out there in toasterland might have some ideas to share. Thanks in advance for any advice! Sam Schorr Homestead.com ph: (650) 549-3152 fax: (650) 364-7329 sschorr(a)homestead-inc.com http://www.homestead.com Homestead: It's a new world. Make your place.

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Network Appliance Confidential Information
by Hansen, Paul 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

To Whom it May Concern, Network Appliance has a policy not to comment on product futures or any other information that has not been released to the public. Any persons that, in fact, are in possession of Network Appliance proprietary information, be reminded they are under confidentiality obligations not to disclose such information. Paul Hansen Sr. Director Product Marketing 408.822.3125 Telephone 408.822.4577 Fax phansen(a)netapp.com NetworkAppliance 495 East Java Drive Sunnyvale, CA 94089 -----Original Message----- From: David Midgett [mailto:DMidgett@about-inc.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 12:56 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> Subject: F840 Release date Does anyone know what the planned release date of the F840 filer is? Also when will a Recommended release of Ontap 6.0 be out for the F760? It will be nice to get the additional filesystem capacity. David Midgett Manager, Server Operations About The Human Internet http://www.About.com <http://www.About.com>

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Completely shut off snapshots
by Pesce, Nicholas (FUSA) 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

I'm setting no snapshots to be running and my disk usage to 0% (The machine is used as a cache server only, and the data is not critical in any way shape or form. Is there an alternative method to shutting off snapshots? (i.e a snapshot off command, or something like that)

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Replies to Console Information
by Sam Schorr 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Folks, Thanks to all of you who responded to my request. My team has lots to follow-up on. Lightswitch, PortMaster, Cisco's 2511 & 2621, DECServer (from Compaq) and a few others give us plenty to digest. Thanks again from one of the most productive mail lists around. Sam Schorr Homestead.com ph: (650) 549-3152 fax: (650) 364-7329 sschorr(a)homestead-inc.com http://www.homestead.com Homestead: It's a new world. Make your place.

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F840 Release date
by David Midgett 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Does anyone know what the planned release date of the F840 filer is? Also when will a Recommended release of Ontap 6.0 be out for the F760? It will be nice to get the additional filesystem capacity. David Midgett Manager, Server Operations About The Human Internet http://www.About.com

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Re: (offtopic) Solaris & Jukeboxes
by Darrell Fuhriman 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Jay Orr <orrjl(a)stl.nexen.com> writes: > Anyone know where I can find software to contol Overland Data jukeboxes > that runs on Solaris (that's free)? If it's a generic SCSI robot, do a search for 'mtx' -- that should do what you need. I can send a copy if you need it. Darrell

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RE: Removing disks from a volume
by Datta, Diptish 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

I have filed an RFE for this request. I agree - this would be a simple and a good enhancement. -diptish -----Original Message----- From: Mike Sphar [mailto:mikey@remedy.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:42 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Removing disks from a volume I agree, I think this is a really good idea for an enhancement request. Especially useful for inexperienced admins (or those muddle-headed from their 4th 18-hour day this week). -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services, BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Krueger [mailto:jkrueger@qualcomm.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:37 AM To: Brian Tao Cc: Mike Sphar; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Removing disks from a volume On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 11:12:14AM -0400, Brian Tao wrote: > > Indeed... recovery could be costly and/or awkward. Perhaps Netapp > would consider a "safety feature" enhancement for "vol add/create" > command where by default it will not allow a situation in which a > volume/raidgroup is left with no hot spares. Add a "-f" switch (or > whatever) to force an override. Warm fuzzy feature. :) This is a great idea. And should be only a couple line of intern-level code to implement too. -- Jeff -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Krueger E-Mail: jeff(a)qualcomm.com Senior Engineer Phone: 858-651-6709 NetApp Filers / UNIX Infrastructure Fax: 858-651-6627 QUALCOMM, Inc. IT Engineering Web: www.qualcomm.com

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(offtopic) Solaris & Jukeboxes
by Jay Orr 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Anyone know where I can find software to contol Overland Data jukeboxes that runs on Solaris (that's free)? Thanks! ----------- Jay Orr Systems Administrator Fujitsu Nexion Inc. St. Louis, MO

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RE: Removing disks from a volume
by Mike Sphar 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

It's worth taking a look at the trend in space utilization though, because it's entirely possible that at their current rate they may need to buy a new shelf X months down the road anyway, and if so it may be more cost-effective to just buy it now and save the headache and downtime involved with shrinking the existing volume. I find with our filers that I can pretty much plot out on a graph when a new shelf is needed, and it's usually less than a year. Of course, the moral of this story is: Be careful when you add disks to volumes. -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services, BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD -----Original Message----- From: Brian Tao [mailto:taob@risc.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:14 PM To: Bruce Sterling Woodcock Cc: Aaron Sherman; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Removing disks from a volume On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Bruce Sterling Woodcock wrote: > > Is the time worth the cost of another disk? I doubt it. ... plus a whole new disk shelf (and the space and power required) if he runs with full shelves with one spare, the way I suspect most people do. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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I.T. SERVICE ANNOUNCMENT for Sat., Aug. 26th, 2000
by Murray, Brian 25 Aug '00

25 Aug '00

When: Saturday, August 26, 2000 at 4:00 PM PDT for 2.5 HOURS What: Migrate Internet network segments at Sunnyvale site Why: To complete the migration from Vendor X to Vendor Y network equip., the network segments that lead to the Internet must be migrated from the Vendor X switch to our existing Vendor Y network. Impact: The following web sites will be "off the air": * NOW web site * E-Market web site Other Internet services interrupted: * E-mail delivery * Chat

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Re: Removing disks from a volume
by mds＠gbnet.net 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

The real secret to this is re-laying out the filesystem data and altering and relaying out the metadata, which is why AFAIK, only VxFS can do this at the moment - it's perceived to be both hard and uncommon (despite all sysadmin's experiences to the contrary, and the manifest existence of fs-reorganisers) so most fs authors don't bother. Shrinking volumes, by comparison, is just moving a fencepost. It's what they contain that needs the work. -- -Mark ... an Englishman in New York ...

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Backup Questions
by Jay Orr 23 Aug '00

23 Aug '00

Hi all! So, we're evaluating backup software to replace Budtool. When we used budtool, it used Netapp's Dump to backup the files, not NDMP. Now, I don't claim to have all the ins-and-outs down on NDMP, but here's what I understand. NDMP does a sorta flow-control in one stream and dumps in another (or something like that). My particular questions: 1) Do all implementations of NDMP backup/restore at best only allow choosing directories and NOT files for restore/backup? 2) Does netapp's Dump work such that you can choose to backup/restore particular files? 3) How does netapp's Dump differ from the dump in the NDMP? It's all kinda fuzzy for me.... ----------- Jay Orr Systems Administrator Fujitsu Nexion Inc. St. Louis, MO

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netapp console to terminal server?
by Lyons, Jim 22 Aug '00

22 Aug '00

We are trying to attach our netapp db9 console ports to a cisco as2509-rj async rj45 lines, but are having no luck. The cisco h/w configuration documentation has a diagram for the db9 to rj45 pinout, but it does not work. Has anyone done this? Thanks, Jim

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Re: Removing disks from a volume
by Rick Hulsey 22 Aug '00

22 Aug '00

You've probably already thought about this, but could you just steal a spare from the other filer, or buy another disk to use as a spare? If the spare disk was your last spare in the filer and you can't buy or steal another spare or it forces you to another shelf, then it's worth going through this process. Otherwise you may want to just not mess with it. If you do have to deal with the problem by copying and recreating the volume, it seems like you ought to be able to get that downtime window to be smaller if you use snapmirror to mirror your problem volume to the new volume in the other filer. This at least cuts down on the time it takes to do the first copy. >>> Aaron Sherman <ajs(a)ajs.com> 08/21/00 10:46PM >>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 10:23:13PM +0100, Mark Simmons wrote: > The real secret to this is re-laying out the filesystem data and altering > and relaying out the metadata, which is why AFAIK, only VxFS can do this > at the moment - it's perceived to be both hard and uncommon (despite > all sysadmin's experiences to the contrary, and the manifest existence > of fs-reorganisers) so most fs authors don't bother. Just in case a) this is what's being thought and b) there's anyone from NetApp listening: THIS WOULD NOT JUST BE A COOL FEATURE... IT WOULD SAVE ME DAYS OF EFFORT. You see, our database is on that volume, so we have to schedule database downtime, copy the data to a second filer (lucky we have one, or this'd be to tape!) and then back. It's probably going to be 1-3 hour process which will suck up our downtime window for a whole week! -- Aaron Sherman Systems Architect HighWired.com -- The global high school community http://www.highwired.com 300 North Beacon Street Watertown, MA 02472 (617) 926-1850 x238 (617) 926-1861 fax asherman(a)highwired-inc.com / ICQ#43677395 / Y!ajstrader "We had some good machines, but they don't work no more." -"Faded Flowers" / Shriekback

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RE: RCS issues with ONTAP 5.4.3R2
by Clawson, Simon 22 Aug '00

22 Aug '00

Sniff is produced by a company called MKS. I dont know if they have a web site, but we get our licenses etc through wind river. Bye Simon -----Original Message----- From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] Sent: 21 August 2000 20:29 To: 'Clawson, Simon' Subject: RE: RCS issues with ONTAP 5.4.3R2 On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Muhlestein, Mark wrote: > This is likely bug #21019, fixed in 5.3.5. Check with NetApp support to get the > exact recommended version, since the fix exists in many releases. Simon, Darn it. If I had read the description of bug 21019, I wouldn't have needed to post my wild-ass guesses. I filed that bug. ;) That bug was a re-introduction of bug 7111, which a former admin of our company filed years ago; it apparently got reintroduced into the code base for ONTAP when another much *larger* customer of NetApp's demanded it work *their* way, not according to the UNIX-style semantics. The option cifs.perm_check_ro_del_ok then got created to fix 21019 (and 7111, *again*) to make it work as it should. So, this product...Sniff, who makes it? We haven't found an RCS tool for pc's that doesn't corrupt our RCS files, but I haven't heard of this one yet. Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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Re: Removing disks from a volume
by Eyal Traitel 22 Aug '00

22 Aug '00

It surely would. It was down in a shutdown of the company. eT. --- James R Grinter <jrg(a)acm.org> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 02:28:46PM -0700, Eyal Traitel wrote: > > - About your specific problem - easy fix - just create new volume > > with two disks. mount it. Use a tool like rsync to copy all the > /etc > > to the new volume. > > Wouldn't that have implications for NFS Clients that have mounted > the file system and/or have files open? I'm thinking here of the > values inside the opaque (to the client) NFS file handles. > > James. ===== Yours, Eyal Traitel eTraitel(a)yahoo.com, Home: 972-3-5290415 (Tel Aviv) *** eTraitel - it's the new eBuzzword ! *** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: Removing disks from a volume
by Eyal Traitel 21 Aug '00

21 Aug '00

- The only "plex" I can think of in VxFS is "complex"... :) - I believe that this shrinking has very strict demands - you must defrag first, have enough space of course, and it probably takes hours... - A filer tries to distribute data over the spindles, so it makes it hard I believe. Anyway, you have the option to create large volumes, and seperate them logically to easily growing/shrinking qtrees, which are like filesystems. - About your specific problem - easy fix - just create new volume with two disks. mount it. Use a tool like rsync to copy all the /etc to the new volume. Run "rsh toaster0 vol offline myoldroot" - this is for taking it offline during the reboot (NOT NEEDED IN 6.0!!!). Run "rsh toaster0 vol options mynewvolume root" and then after one last rsync reboot. There you have it. It was done on a production system by myself - no problem. After some time you can of course issue: "rsh toaster0 vol destroy myoldroot" to erase volume. eT. --- Aaron Sherman <ajs(a)ajs.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 12:38:40PM -0700, Eyal Traitel wrote: > > It would be lovely if there was such a RAID-filesystem... > > If anyone have heard of such - share with us... > > As noted by another, Veritas is capable of this. I've included an > excerpt from the docs, below: > > [begin vxassist man-page] > NAME > vxassist - create, mirror, backup, grow, shrink, and move > volumes > [...] > shrinkto and shrinkby > Decrease the length of the named volume to the length > specified by newlength (shrinkto), or by the length > specified by lengthchange (shrinkby). The new length > or change in length is specified as a standard Volume > Manager length [see vxintro(1M)]. The shrinkto opera- > tion fails if the new length is not less than the > current volume length. > [...end] > > Of course, this only shrinks the whole volume, but it is my > understanding that at that point, you can re-arange the plexes so > that > the disk you want to remove no longer has any plexes on it. It's ugly > and complex, but possible. It strikes me as very strange that a > system > that's otherwise so flexible does not allow this. We've really hosed > ourselves because on one Filer (while attempting to set up a volume > that we could volcopy to), we accidentally added disks to the root > volume. So, now we have to do what? Re-install? > > -- > Aaron Sherman > Systems Architect > HighWired.com -- The global high school community > http://www.highwired.com > > 300 North Beacon Street > Watertown, MA 02472 > (617) 926-1850 x238 > (617) 926-1861 fax > asherman(a)highwired-inc.com / ICQ#43677395 / Y!ajstrader > > "We had some good machines, but they don't work no more." > -"Faded Flowers" / Shriekback ===== Yours, Eyal Traitel eTraitel(a)yahoo.com, Home: 972-3-5290415 (Tel Aviv) *** eTraitel - it's the new eBuzzword ! *** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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