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How to "remove"
by Braunschweiger, Udo 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Please everybody: To be removed from the list toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> send a mail-message to majordomo(a)mathworks.com <mailto:majordomo@mathworks.com> with the only words in the message body: unsubscribe toasters your. <mailto:username@company.topleveldomain> username(a)company.topleveldomain Regards Udo -----Original Message----- From: Ferd Berfl [mailto:ferd_berfl@yahoo.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 25. April 2001 16:23 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: remove you were saying, about remind people how to remove themselves, Sushi Biker. -----Original Message----- From: owner-dl-toasters(a)netapp.com [mailto:owner-dl-toasters@netapp.com]On Behalf Of Jean-Marie Joris Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:09 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: remove remove -- Jean-Marie JORIS Unix Support - Texas Instruments France Email jm-joris(a)ti.com Phone 04 93 22 14 05

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by Jean-Marie Joris 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

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RE: snapshot backup
by Clawson, Simon 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

That sounds like exactly what I meant. We currently backup / and everything below that. What I was hoping I could do was backup /.snapshot/weekly0 and then use this as my full backup. I user Veritas NetBackup to fire off the NDMP job on the filer, so I guess I would need to modify the backup path to /.snapshot/Weekly0? Simon > -----Original Message----- > From: Traitel, Eyal [mailto:eyal@netapp.com] > Sent: Wednesday April 2001 16:29 > To: 'E.J. Jantz'; toasters(a)mathworks.com; simon_clawson > Subject: RE: snapshot backup > > > Our snapshots are to be more exact "copy on new write" as > opposed to "copy on old write", with the advantage of no > penalty at all in terms of performance of taking the > snapshot, and performance of filesystem after taking it > (think of "copy on old write" - filesystem needs to read old > block, write it in the backup location, then write the new > block in old place - that's 3 I/Os. For us it's only 1). > We do not have to go back to specific locations on the disk, > and that's a real advantage in terms of performance. > > In regards to full compared to snapshot - with NetApp, it's > probably always better to backup snapshots, as they are > point-in-time - when you've started your backup at 19:00, all > of it will be consistent to 19:00 sharp, unlike traditional > backup, which data changes while you backup... So - if you > get me right - you can even do full backup from a snapshot... > > On Legato - I think you can just mention .snapshot/hourly.0 > for example in your path of backup. If you use NDMP, you > anyway backup a snapshot, as the filer's dump creates one > automatically for you. > > Hope it somewhat helps, > Eyal. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > eTraitel - I'm the new eBuzzword around !!! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eyal Traitel - Filer Escalation Engineer > CNA, MCSE, CSA, LCA, NetApp CA > > Network Appliance BV > Holland Office Center > Kruisweg 799b > 2132 NG, Hoofddorp > The Netherlands > Office: +31 23 567 9685 > Cellular: +31 6 5497 2568 > Email: eyal(a)netapp.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get answers NOW! - NetApp On the Web - http://now.netapp.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: E.J. Jantz [mailto:ej_jantz@bswintl.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:55 PM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com; simon_clawson(a)mentorg.com > Subject: Re: snapshot backup > > > just a question: If the 'snapshots are "copy on writes' doesn't that > mean that a backup of .snapshot is equal to and functions as a full > backup? If not, can Legato using a NFS mount on a unix server capture > just the info the .snapshot uses? If so, how? > > thanks... > > EJ Jantz, IST Dept. > BSW International > One West Third, Ste 100 > Tulsa, OK 74103-3505 > 918 582-8771 > ej_jantz(a)bswintl.com > 918 295-4166 > 918 587-3594 fax > > > >>> "Clawson, Simon" <simon_clawson(a)mentorg.com> 4/25/01 4:32:08 AM > >>> > Is it possible to backup just the .snapshot and then perform a restore > from > this data? > > I am looking for ways to speed up the backups and this seems to be a > possible option. It was suggested to me by a colleague as a method of > backing up Clearcase VOBS, but would it be viable for the whole filer. > Of > course I would need to run a full backup at tleast once a month, but > this > would help me speed up most of my weekly runs. > > Any ideas/suggestions/views? > > Simon > > Simon Clawson > HDS Team Systems Administrator > Mentor Graphics Uk > Rivergate > London Road > Newbury > Berkshire > RG14 2QB > <<Clawson, Simon.vcf>> >

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RE: snapshot backup
by Fox, Adam 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you, but I don't think what you want to do will work. I'm not sure how backing up a snapshot will speed up your backups. A snapshot is a point-in-time view of an entire volume. If you run our dump command either from the command line or via ndmp against the active volume (non-snapshot) ONTAP will create a snapshot for the duration of the dump. Snapshots are not strictly incremental changes, they are a view of the whole volume. So while you certainly can backup a snapshot, (in fact, that is strongly recommended) I'm not sure how it will speed things up. If you elaborate, I'll do my best to help out. -- Adam Fox NetApp Professional Services, NC adamfox(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 5:32 AM > To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > Subject: snapshot backup > > > Is it possible to backup just the .snapshot and then perform > a restore from > this data? > > I am looking for ways to speed up the backups and this seems to be a > possible option. It was suggested to me by a colleague as a method of > backing up Clearcase VOBS, but would it be viable for the > whole filer. Of > course I would need to run a full backup at tleast once a > month, but this > would help me speed up most of my weekly runs. > > Any ideas/suggestions/views? > > Simon > > Simon Clawson > HDS Team Systems Administrator > Mentor Graphics Uk > Rivergate > London Road > Newbury > Berkshire > RG14 2QB > <<Clawson, Simon.vcf>> >

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Re: snapshot backup
by E.J. Jantz 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

just a question: If the 'snapshots are "copy on writes' doesn't that mean that a backup of .snapshot is equal to and functions as a full backup? If not, can Legato using a NFS mount on a unix server capture just the info the .snapshot uses? If so, how? thanks... EJ Jantz, IST Dept. BSW International One West Third, Ste 100 Tulsa, OK 74103-3505 918 582-8771 ej_jantz(a)bswintl.com 918 295-4166 918 587-3594 fax >>> "Clawson, Simon" <simon_clawson(a)mentorg.com> 4/25/01 4:32:08 AM >>> Is it possible to backup just the .snapshot and then perform a restore from this data? I am looking for ways to speed up the backups and this seems to be a possible option. It was suggested to me by a colleague as a method of backing up Clearcase VOBS, but would it be viable for the whole filer. Of course I would need to run a full backup at tleast once a month, but this would help me speed up most of my weekly runs. Any ideas/suggestions/views? Simon Simon Clawson HDS Team Systems Administrator Mentor Graphics Uk Rivergate London Road Newbury Berkshire RG14 2QB <<Clawson, Simon.vcf>>

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RE: snapshot backup
by Steve Kappel 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

>I use Veritas NetBackup to do an NDMP dump. I guess I can just backup the >path /.snapshot..? Yes. Restore using NetBackup "Alternate Path Restore". >-----Original Message----- >From: Rick Hulsey [mailto:RHULSEY@wnco.com] >Sent: Wednesday April 2001 13:20 >To: toasters(a)mathworks.com; simon_clawson >Subject: Re: snapshot backup > > >Yes, but be careful if you back this up by mounting the volume and using NFS >or CIFS instead of using dump on the filer or some other backup client. If >the pathnames to the files that you are backing up once mounted looks >something like "/dir/.snapshot/hourly.0/otherdir/filenames" then you will >have some additional work to do if you need to restore those files. If, >however, you mount or connect to the .snapshot/hourly.0 directory then the >pathnames to your file look something like "/dir/otherdir/filenames". The >issue is that anything on a filer below .snapshot is going to be read only >so you want to make sure that .snapshot is not in the pathname that gets >stored on your tapes. > >>>> "Clawson, Simon" <simon_clawson(a)mentorg.com> 04/25/01 04:32AM >>> >Is it possible to backup just the .snapshot and then perform a restore from >this data? > >I am looking for ways to speed up the backups and this seems to be a >possible option. It was suggested to me by a colleague as a method of >backing up Clearcase VOBS, but would it be viable for the whole filer. Of >course I would need to run a full backup at tleast once a month, but this >would help me speed up most of my weekly runs. > >Any ideas/suggestions/views? > >Simon > >Simon Clawson >HDS Team Systems Administrator >Mentor Graphics Uk >Rivergate >London Road >Newbury >Berkshire >RG14 2QB ><<Clawson, Simon.vcf>> > > __________________________________________________________________________ Steve Kappel steve.kappel(a)veritas.com VERITAS Software steve(a)stevekappel.com (Personal)

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Archive Help
by Peter Gauthier 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Hi Folks I need some help or information. I have just joined up and it was suggested that I could look at the archives at the following sites. http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters/ http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters/Search.html I'm unable to get to either site as the Netscape message reads. There was no response. Server could be down or is not responding. I have tried these site from the Company Office as well as through my home office ISP. Peter

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FW: How would you respond to this
by Network Appliance List 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Gawd. I always knew that EMC was lower than a snake's belly in a wagon wheel rut, but gee. I'd just educate the management types, addressing each point. And then ask if they want to do business with a company that uses overt fraud as a marketing tool. Then we could call my buddy Guido and have him pay the miscreants a visit. ("Only break the left knee, Guido!" We want them to hobble, not drag!") Brian Cooper BOkf Technical Services Tulsa, Oklahoma bcooper(a)mail.bokf.com Jerry, Tom: FYI -----Original Message----- From: Barry Lustig [mailto:barry@lustig.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:41 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: How would you respond to this This is an excerpt of an email that was sent to the management of a company that I'm working with. They had spec'ed F85's for a fairly low performance 10-20Mbits/sec. environment. The main requirement is reliability and ease of use. How does one respond to blatant misrepresentation of a competitors product? barry A few highlights of the comparison: - The F85 is a stripped down, single CPU, low end device with multiple points of failure and a very poor data protection. NetApps service is rated very low by industry experts and they offer next day shipment of parts that the user must install themselves. - The IP4700 is fully redundant, multi-CPU, mid-range device with no single point of failure and hardware based RAID 5 data protection. EMC's world class customer service center has ranked #1 for 6 consecutive years by Gartner Group. Standard 2 year warranty guarantees 4 hours ON SITE w/Parts service by EMC technicians. Plus, our 'call home' proactive maintenance system monitors trends within the system and reports them automatically to our customer service center. Often, EMC technicians will repair a system BEFORE the component actually fails. The 4700 will be configured with 8 drives usable, plus 1 drive for RAID 5 parity and 1 drive for hot swap redundancy. It is scalable all the way to 7000GB (7TB) vs. only 648GB for the F85. The 4700 as configured above is 8RU. In general, the F85 does not scale sufficiently for growth, has poor customer service behind it, has no redundancy, has multiple points of failure, and utilizes a sub-par RAID 0 data protection scheme.

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Re: Repairing
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Hello, Wil: We can repair or replace most NetApp parts at very reasonable prices. Please let me know what defective parts you have and we will be happy to send you a quote. Regards, Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com In a message dated 4/24/01 9:14:54 PM Central Daylight Time, wilng(a)asl.com.hk writes: > Dear all, > > Its there any repairing service from NetApp. I replace my defective item > with my > spare parts. It there any formal channel to repair the defective one? and > the > charge? > > Wil

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RE: snapshot backup
by Clawson, Simon 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

I use Veritas NetBackup to do an NDMP dump. I guess I can just backup the path /.snapshot..? -----Original Message----- From: Rick Hulsey [mailto:RHULSEY@wnco.com] Sent: Wednesday April 2001 13:20 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com; simon_clawson Subject: Re: snapshot backup Yes, but be careful if you back this up by mounting the volume and using NFS or CIFS instead of using dump on the filer or some other backup client. If the pathnames to the files that you are backing up once mounted looks something like "/dir/.snapshot/hourly.0/otherdir/filenames" then you will have some additional work to do if you need to restore those files. If, however, you mount or connect to the .snapshot/hourly.0 directory then the pathnames to your file look something like "/dir/otherdir/filenames". The issue is that anything on a filer below .snapshot is going to be read only so you want to make sure that .snapshot is not in the pathname that gets stored on your tapes. >>> "Clawson, Simon" <simon_clawson(a)mentorg.com> 04/25/01 04:32AM >>> Is it possible to backup just the .snapshot and then perform a restore from this data? I am looking for ways to speed up the backups and this seems to be a possible option. It was suggested to me by a colleague as a method of backing up Clearcase VOBS, but would it be viable for the whole filer. Of course I would need to run a full backup at tleast once a month, but this would help me speed up most of my weekly runs. Any ideas/suggestions/views? Simon Simon Clawson HDS Team Systems Administrator Mentor Graphics Uk Rivergate London Road Newbury Berkshire RG14 2QB <<Clawson, Simon.vcf>>

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Re: snapshot backup
by Rick Hulsey 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Yes, but be careful if you back this up by mounting the volume and using NFS or CIFS instead of using dump on the filer or some other backup client. If the pathnames to the files that you are backing up once mounted looks something like "/dir/.snapshot/hourly.0/otherdir/filenames" then you will have some additional work to do if you need to restore those files. If, however, you mount or connect to the .snapshot/hourly.0 directory then the pathnames to your file look something like "/dir/otherdir/filenames". The issue is that anything on a filer below .snapshot is going to be read only so you want to make sure that .snapshot is not in the pathname that gets stored on your tapes. >>> "Clawson, Simon" <simon_clawson(a)mentorg.com> 04/25/01 04:32AM >>> Is it possible to backup just the .snapshot and then perform a restore from this data? I am looking for ways to speed up the backups and this seems to be a possible option. It was suggested to me by a colleague as a method of backing up Clearcase VOBS, but would it be viable for the whole filer. Of course I would need to run a full backup at tleast once a month, but this would help me speed up most of my weekly runs. Any ideas/suggestions/views? Simon Simon Clawson HDS Team Systems Administrator Mentor Graphics Uk Rivergate London Road Newbury Berkshire RG14 2QB <<Clawson, Simon.vcf>>

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RE: How would you respond to this
by Collins, Brian 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Um.... for what it is worth, I just ran "vol status -r" on an F85 - looks like RAID4 to me! f85-rtp> vol status -r Volume vol0 (root) RAID group 0 RAID Disk HA.ID HA SHELF BAY CHAN Used (MB/blks) Phys (MB/blks) --------- ----- ------------ ---- -------------- -------------- parity 5a.5 5a 0 5 34500/70656000 34732/71132960 data 5a.4 5a 0 4 34500/70656000 34732/71132960 Spare disks for zoned checksum volumes only RAID Disk HA.ID HA SHELF BAY CHAN Used (MB/blks) Phys (MB/blks) --------- ----- ------------ ---- -------------- -------------- spare 5a.3 5a 0 3 0 34732/71132960 spare 5a.2 5a 0 2 0 34732/71132960 spare 5a.1 5a 0 1 0 34732/71132960 spare 5a.0 5a 0 0 0 34732/71132960 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mohler, Jeff [mailto:jeff.mohler@netapp.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:15 PM > To: 'Mike Sphar'; 'Barry Lustig'; toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: How would you respond to this > > > Finally, does the F85 really use RAID 0? If so, it's true > that it's not as > failure proof, but then if the model was designed for RAID 0, > then it's > simply not targeted at the same market as a redundant RAID unit. If > capacity and performance are far more important to you then > redundancy, then > RAID 0 is the way to go. (Though as I said, I'd be surprised > if it really > was RAID 0. If it's not, then a blatant lie like that would > immediately > turn me off to any vendor.) > --- > > Since nobody else has responded..I'll step in. > > The F85 enjoys the FULL and complete feature set of WAFL and > its engineering around RAID4 to do its work quickly, quietly, > and with outstanding performance compared to any other > filesystem or features the competition can throw at us. >

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snapshot backup
by Clawson, Simon 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Is it possible to backup just the .snapshot and then perform a restore from this data? I am looking for ways to speed up the backups and this seems to be a possible option. It was suggested to me by a colleague as a method of backing up Clearcase VOBS, but would it be viable for the whole filer. Of course I would need to run a full backup at tleast once a month, but this would help me speed up most of my weekly runs. Any ideas/suggestions/views? Simon Simon Clawson HDS Team Systems Administrator Mentor Graphics Uk Rivergate London Road Newbury Berkshire RG14 2QB <<Clawson, Simon.vcf>>

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NDMP and network settings
by Scott Mikusko 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Peoples, I recently set up our new NDMP backup system (new ADIC Scalar-1000 tape library, with 2 F760s acting as NDMP hosts with 4 drives attached to each from the unit). Initially I was having trouble getting other filers to backup via the network to the remote drives on the 2 hosts. I was running all my filers on a private 100Mbs Full-Duplex network (utilising the filers' e0 interfaces or quad cards). Funny thing was, I keep seeing really slow and spotty xfer rates and tape writes: small bursts of 65Kb/s then a few seconds of nothing. When I tried backups via dump to local drives, it was 4-6Mb/s, as expected). So, what was causing the painfully slow performance?? On a whim, knowing I had seen something like this before a long time ago with Legato's client pak s/w, I reset the NDMP hosts' ether interfaces to 100Mbs HALF-duplex. As soon as that duplex setting kicked in, my network xfer rates and tape write shot up to the expected 4-6Mb/s rates. Now, I understand that duplex settings can affect network performance, and that in backups I'm essentially streaming data in one direction (which would make half-duplex a sensible option), but as for WHY I needed to set to half-duplex is a mystery. I would think being Full-duplex would be just as well. This duplex issue is, as far as I could tell reading over Netapp and Veritas docs, not address explicity when talking about 3-way backups. While I'm glad I seem to have fixed the problem, the fact that it was a problem puzzles me. So for anyone out there doing 3-way backups or dumps to remote tape drives, had you seen this before? Is anyone running NDMP and remote drives but not using half-duplex network settings? Just curious. -Scott Mikusko

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RE: Repairing
by Mohler, Jeff 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

If you are in Hong Kong (good bet here) you can call 800-8008-0800. Please call any of the following offices for support at any time. Europe: 00-800-44-638277 Europe: 31-23-567-9605 Asia: 800-8008-0800 Asia: 65-3170317 Malaysia: 1-800-804289 Taiwan: 0080-14-8246 India: 65 317-0317 Indonesia: 011-803-015-200-0703 You can also open a case via NOW (now.netapp.com) and you will get immediate reponse for assistance, or you can open your own RMA tickets to replace faulty hardware without having to use the phone at all. -----Original Message----- From: Wil Ng [mailto:wilng@asl.com.hk] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:17 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Repairing Dear all, Its there any repairing service from NetApp. I replace my defective item with my spare parts. It there any formal channel to repair the defective one? and the charge? Wil

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RE: Repairing
by Mohler, Jeff 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

You will have to consult with the tech support representatives on your options, and depending on your service agreements many should be available to you. -----Original Message----- From: Wil Ng [mailto:wilng@asl.com.hk] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:19 PM To: Mohler, Jeff; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Repairing Hi Mohler, Thanks for your information! However what if the warranty has expired? Wil "Mohler, Jeff" wrote: > If you are in Hong Kong (good bet here) you can call 800-8008-0800. > > Please call any of the following offices for support at any time. > > Europe: 00-800-44-638277 > Europe: 31-23-567-9605 > Asia: 800-8008-0800 > Asia: 65-3170317 > Malaysia: 1-800-804289 > Taiwan: 0080-14-8246 > India: 65 317-0317 > Indonesia: 011-803-015-200-0703 > > You can also open a case via NOW (now.netapp.com) and you will get immediate reponse for assistance, or you can open your own RMA tickets to replace faulty hardware without having to use the phone at all. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wil Ng [mailto:wilng@asl.com.hk] > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:17 PM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Repairing > > Dear all, > > Its there any repairing service from NetApp. I replace my defective item with my > spare parts. It there any formal channel to repair the defective one? and the > charge? > > Wil

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Repairing
by Wil Ng 25 Apr '01

25 Apr '01

Dear all, Its there any repairing service from NetApp. I replace my defective item with my spare parts. It there any formal channel to repair the defective one? and the charge? Wil

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RE: Re: OT - swag (fwd)
by Maglinger, Paul 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

So guys, are you going to start some "inane banter" about the "inane banter"? -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Innis [mailto:figaro911@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 17:11 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Fwd: Re: OT - swag (fwd) Yes, it's quite interesting the crying about not following protocol when trying to unsubscribe, but not a word from the those same folk about polluting the bandwith with 2 days of inane banter( no doubt someone thinks this chatter was interesting). Just perhaps, those sending mail to toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> to "unsubscribe", aren't clueless about majordomo, or lazy, but in actuality are registering their vote of "enough is enough", and letting the rest of the list know why. Jeff > > From: Ozzie Sabina > > Sender: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > > Precedence: bulk > > > > > > +-- "Swank, Steve (OTS-KC)" once said: > > | Can we move on from this topic, please? If you want to send personal > > | e-mails, send them to the person, not the entire list. > > > > I'll second this motion. I don't blame all of the people suddenly > > wanting to get off the list. > > > > Oz > > > _____ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com <http://explorer.msn.com>

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ndmpcopy problems
by Leonard, Roger 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

i downloaded and compiled ndmpcopy1.2 and am trying to copy a dir from one 740 (blender) to another 740 (grinder). the syntax i use is ndmpcopy blender:/vol/vol1/home/oldlocal grinder:/vol/vol1 -level 0 it prompts me for a password and it looks like it is doing it. the source filer starts an ndmp dump session and the target filer starts an ndmp restore session and i get this output: Connecting to blender. Connecting to grinder. blender: CONNECT: Connection established. grinder: CONNECT: Connection established. blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: creating "/vol/vol1/../snapshot_for_backup.52" snapshot. blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: Using subtree dump blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: Date of this level 0 dump: Tue Apr 24 11:43:11 2001. blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch. blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: Dumping /vol/vol1/home/oldlocal/ to NDMP connection blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: mapping (Pass I)[regular files] blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: mapping (Pass II)[directories] blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: estimated 501871 KB. blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: dumping (Pass III) [directories] grinder: LOG: RESTORE: grinder: LOG: Tue Apr 24 11:41:57 2001: Begin level 0 restore grinder: LOG: RESTORE: grinder: LOG: Tue Apr 24 11:41:58 2001: Reading directories from tape blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] grinder: LOG: RESTORE: grinder: LOG: Tue Apr 24 11:42:01 2001: Creating files and directories. grinder: LOG: RESTORE: grinder: LOG: Warning: cannot create directory etc: File exists grinder: LOG: RESTORE: grinder: LOG: Tue Apr 24 11:42:16 2001: Writing data to files. grinder: LOG: RESTORE: grinder: LOG: Tue Apr 24 11:45:02 2001: Restoring NT ACLs (if any). blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: dumping (Pass V) [ACLs] blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: 502315 KB blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: DUMP IS DONE blender: LOG: DUMP: blender: LOG: Deleting "/vol/vol1/../snapshot_for_backup.52" snapshot. grinder: HALT: The operation was successful! Waiting for blender to halt too. The transfer was successful, but the source filer hasn't halted yet. Elapsed time: 0 hours, 4 minutes, 40 seconds. blender: HALT: The operation was successful! The transfer is complete. Elapsed time: 0 hours, 5 minutes, 38 seconds. using df it looks like it copied something to the volume but there is nothing there. i unmounted and remounted and still nothing. what am i missing? also it says it is trying to create etc?? there isn't an etc dir in my source dir. that makes it seem as if it is trying to copy from the root level but it shouldn't be and this is real scary. any help would be appreciated Roger D. Leonard Senior Network Analyst Marconi Communications

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RE: OT - swag
by Gregg Anderson 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

I guess I shouldn't bring up the free baseball tickets, food and beer in addition to the hat...? -----Original Message----- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:PMAGLINGER@scvl.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:50 PM To: 'Zaphod Beeblebrox'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: OT - swag You got a HAT??? -----Original Message----- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zelwynnetapp@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 13:45 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: OT - swag Just did the 2 admin classes here in NYC, and we got the aforementioned travel mug and a basball hat... >From: "Kitch, David" <dkitch(a)ti.com> >To: Toaster Mail Exploder <toasters(a)mathworks.com> >Subject: RE: OT - swag >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:21:27 -0500 > >They haven't given out jackets in years. The last I heard, it's still a >bag >or a shirt. > >-- David _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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RE: OT - swag
by Swank, Steve (OTS-KC) 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

Can we move on from this topic, please? If you want to send personal e-mails, send them to the person, not the entire list. -----Original Message----- From: Gregg Anderson [mailto:gregg.anderson@s1.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:05 PM To: 'Maglinger, Paul'; 'Zaphod Beeblebrox'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: OT - swag I guess I shouldn't bring up the free baseball tickets, food and beer in addition to the hat...? -----Original Message----- From: Maglinger, Paul [ mailto:PMAGLINGER@scvl.com <mailto:PMAGLINGER@scvl.com> ] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:50 PM To: 'Zaphod Beeblebrox'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: OT - swag You got a HAT??? -----Original Message----- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [ mailto:zelwynnetapp@hotmail.com <mailto:zelwynnetapp@hotmail.com> ] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 13:45 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: OT - swag Just did the 2 admin classes here in NYC, and we got the aforementioned travel mug and a basball hat... >From: "Kitch, David" <dkitch(a)ti.com> >To: Toaster Mail Exploder <toasters(a)mathworks.com> >Subject: RE: OT - swag >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:21:27 -0500 > >They haven't given out jackets in years. The last I heard, it's still a >bag >or a shirt. > >-- David _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com <http://explorer.msn.com>

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Redundant FCALs with ONTAP 6.1
by Gifford, Josh 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

Hello everyone, I will be upgrading my filer to redundant fcals this week and I wanted to check to see if anyone is already doing this. I don't think there will be any tricks to it, but it never hurts to ask. Best Regards, Josh J Gifford MCP Senior NT Administrator Siemens Power Transmission & Distribution 7000 Siemens Rd Wendell, NC 27591 Phone: (919) 365-2806; Fax: (919) 365-1080 Email: josh.gifford(a)ptd.siemens.com

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RE: Administrivia
by Mike Sphar 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

Should we consider having a small blurb added to the end of posted messages with instructions on subscription maintenance? Or perhaps an automated message sent out on some regular schedule (monthly?) describing the purpose of the list and how to subscribe/unsubscribe, access the archives, etc. A couple of other lists I'm on do this, and we rarely see unsubscribe requests sent to the list itself. -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services - Remedy Corporation BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD -----Original Message----- From: fubar(a)pir.net [mailto:fubar@pir.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:48 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Administrivia With the flurry of unsubscribe requests going to the list lately, I thought I'd take this opportunity to remind everyone how to get off this list correctly. *** If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to <majordomo(a)mathworks.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe toasters <your email address> *** There is a list archive (searchable, even) available on the web at http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters/ K.

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RE: OT - swag
by Maglinger, Paul 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

You got a HAT??? -----Original Message----- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zelwynnetapp@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 13:45 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: OT - swag Just did the 2 admin classes here in NYC, and we got the aforementioned travel mug and a basball hat... >From: "Kitch, David" <dkitch(a)ti.com> >To: Toaster Mail Exploder <toasters(a)mathworks.com> >Subject: RE: OT - swag >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:21:27 -0500 > >They haven't given out jackets in years. The last I heard, it's still a >bag >or a shirt. > >-- David _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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RE: Administrivia
by Mike Sphar 24 Apr '01

24 Apr '01

Right, that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. It definitely shouldn't be more than about 4 lines max. -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services - Remedy Corporation BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD -----Original Message----- From: Dave Carmean [mailto:dlc@halibut.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:04 PM To: Mike Sphar Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Administrivia I have taken to doing this to my majordomo configs: message_footer << END -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archives: http://xxx.xxxxxx.xxx/MailArchives/?list=$LIST Charter: http://xxx.xxxxxx.xxx/engineering/labadmin/info/lab-lists.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- message_fronter << END *** sent via $LIST. See end of message for list information. *** One could place the instructions in the footer, if it turns out that lusers are unwilling/unable to follow the links for instructions. On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:58:38AM -0700, Mike Sphar wrote: > Should we consider having a small blurb added to the end of posted messages > with instructions on subscription maintenance? Or perhaps an automated > message sent out on some regular schedule (monthly?) describing the purpose > of the list and how to subscribe/unsubscribe, access the archives, etc. > > A couple of other lists I'm on do this, and we rarely see unsubscribe > requests sent to the list itself. > > > -- > Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Services - > Remedy Corporation > BOFH, GWP, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE, BFD > > -----Original Message----- > From: fubar(a)pir.net [mailto:fubar@pir.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:48 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Administrivia > > > With the flurry of unsubscribe requests going to the list lately, I > thought I'd take this opportunity to remind everyone how to get off > this list correctly. > > *** > If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, > you can send mail to <majordomo(a)mathworks.com> with the following > command in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe toasters <your email address> > *** > > There is a list archive (searchable, even) available on the web at > http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters/ > > K.

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