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RE: Performance issue
by Craig Slack 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

We too have experienced similar performance issues on the same OS version. However, our users are using Trend OfficeScan for virus scanning, not NAV. We have an open case with NetApp, but so far they have provided us with no information. If this is a widespread problem with this OS version, I would like to know when a patch is expected, if anyone knows. Thank you. Craig Slack -----Original Message----- From: Kitch, David [mailto:dkitch@ti.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:32 AM To: 'Drew O'Donnell'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Performance issue We've had the same issue in isolated cases on our filers running 6.1R1P1. Our clients are running NAV CE. What have you found out about Norton Antivirus Corporate edition in this combination? Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Drew O'Donnell [mailto:drew@cooperneff.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:43 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Performance issue Yes, We are having a very similar issue, Netapp Engineering thinks there may be a bug with this release, we are currently working with them to resolve this. If you disable oplocks on the qtrees which are experiencing the problem, then this should temporarily resolve your problem. I forwarded your email to engineering and they should be contacting you. Are you by any chance running Norton Antivirus Corporate edition on any of you clients? Thanks Drew -----Original Message----- From: Haber, David J. [mailto:David.Haber@vtmednet.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:11 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Performance issue Has anyone seen intermittent problems when users try to save Excel or Powerpoint files to a share on the filer? Also, what are some of the strategies for dealing with oplock break timeout issues? I've been working with NetApp support on these issues but I'd like other opinions. I'm running an 820 filer, DATAOntap 6.1.1r1, and I have a 4-port, 10/100 full duplex vif.

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Re: Performance issue
by MCope＠isisph.com 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

David, Exactly what kind of issues are you seeing. I have the exact same setup except I have Gigabit instead of 100Mb. The issue primarily seems to be opening Office files from a share can take 30+ seconds. Other files types don't seem to be such an issue although I've personally seen a tiny text file take 20 seconds to open in Notepad. I've been the lone voice in the wilderness claiming it's not a Filer problem although it sounds like that might not be entirely true. We did see that running NAV with network drive checking enabled significantly made file access slower. We've done extensive testing and trouble shooting with the local NetApp folks. They discovered the NAV problem. The biggest reason I've not been looking at the Filer as a source of the problem is we've experienced the exact same behavior when accessing files from a share on an NT server. That in conjunction with some packet captures we've done seem to point to a problem with NT's TCP/IP stack. The stack starts out using very small packets and takes forever to ramp up to a decent packet size (Win2K is much faster - in tests a Win2K box on 100Mb ran laps around an NT server using Gigabit). We also use NIS as our primary means of authentication on the Filer and we still haven't ruled this out as an issue. I'm certainly interested in learning more about your problem and everything you learn/hear. This has been made a "top priority" for me to resolve and it's been frustrating because there doesn't seem to be a "smoking gun" and in the meanwhile management and users are cursing the good name of NetApp. Michael Cope Unix Systems Administrator Isis Pharmaceuticals mcope(a)isisph.com

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RE: Performance issue
by Kitch, David 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

We've had the same issue in isolated cases on our filers running 6.1R1P1. Our clients are running NAV CE. What have you found out about Norton Antivirus Corporate edition in this combination? Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Drew O'Donnell [mailto:drew@cooperneff.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:43 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Performance issue Yes, We are having a very similar issue, Netapp Engineering thinks there may be a bug with this release, we are currently working with them to resolve this. If you disable oplocks on the qtrees which are experiencing the problem, then this should temporarily resolve your problem. I forwarded your email to engineering and they should be contacting you. Are you by any chance running Norton Antivirus Corporate edition on any of you clients? Thanks Drew -----Original Message----- From: Haber, David J. [mailto:David.Haber@vtmednet.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:11 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Performance issue Has anyone seen intermittent problems when users try to save Excel or Powerpoint files to a share on the filer? Also, what are some of the strategies for dealing with oplock break timeout issues? I've been working with NetApp support on these issues but I'd like other opinions. I'm running an 820 filer, DATAOntap 6.1.1r1, and I have a 4-port, 10/100 full duplex vif.

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RE: Performance issue
by Drew O'Donnell 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

Yes, We are having a very similar issue, Netapp Engineering thinks there may be a bug with this release, we are currently working with them to resolve this. If you disable oplocks on the qtrees which are experiencing the problem, then this should temporarily resolve your problem. I forwarded your email to engineering and they should be contacting you. Are you by any chance running Norton Antivirus Corporate edition on any of you clients? Thanks Drew -----Original Message----- From: Haber, David J. [mailto:David.Haber@vtmednet.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:11 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Performance issue Has anyone seen intermittent problems when users try to save Excel or Powerpoint files to a share on the filer? Also, what are some of the strategies for dealing with oplock break timeout issues? I've been working with NetApp support on these issues but I'd like other opinions. I'm running an 820 filer, DATAOntap 6.1.1r1, and I have a 4-port, 10/100 full duplex vif.

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Performance issue
by Haber, David J. 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

Has anyone seen intermittent problems when users try to save Excel or Powerpoint files to a share on the filer? Also, what are some of the strategies for dealing with oplock break timeout issues? I've been working with NetApp support on these issues but I'd like other opinions. I'm running an 820 filer, DATAOntap 6.1.1r1, and I have a 4-port, 10/100 full duplex vif.

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Re: NIS group trouble
by Audry Peterson 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

Nixon - By default the filer updates the NIS group cache once a day. To verify the option switch enter the following at the console: filer> options nis.group_update_schedule nis.group_update_schedule 24 To manually force an update run the following: filer> options nis.group_update_schedule now To automate the process you can add a command to your NIS servers Makefile as such : rsh <filer> options nis.group_update_schedule now The NIS cache option began with ONTAP release 5.3 Hope this is helpful, Regards, audryp > X-Authentication-Warning: freddie.softlab.se: leif set sender to nixon(a)softlab.ericsson.se using -f > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: NIS group trouble > From: Leif Nixon <nixon(a)softlab.se> > Date: 23 Nov 2001 14:32:23 +0100 > User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > It seems my filer (F720, ONTAP 5.3.6R2) caches NIS group lookups even > if nis.group_update.enable is set to off. > > This is what happens when I add the user "testuser" to the group > "rally": > > Initially both a Unix NIS client and the filer agree that the user > isn't in the group: > > UNIX: % ypmatch rally group > UNIX: rally:*:31042:jfrid,leif > > FILER: jar> ypgroup testuser > FILER: User "testuser" belongs to the following group(s): > FILER: name: testproj gid: 31038 > FILER: name: testprod gid: 31039 > > Then I add the user to the group and do a ypmake. The Unix client > immediately picks up the change: > > UNIX: % ypmatch rally group > UNIX: rally:*:31042:jfrid,leif,testuser > > But the filer doesn't: > > FILER: jar> ypgroup testuser > FILER: User "testuser" belongs to the following group(s): > FILER: name: testproj gid: 31038 > FILER: name: testprod gid: 31039 > > The filer is supposed to not cache group lookups: > > FILER: jar> options nis.group_update.enable > FILER: nis.group_update.enable off > > In this state, the user can access the group's files just fine from an > NFS Unix client, but gets "permission denied" when attempting the same > from a CIFS client. > > Clearing the WCC cache with "wcc -x" doesn't help. Trying to > manually force a group cache update doesn't work: > > FILER: jar> options nis.group_update_schedule now > FILER: Local NIS group update failed now. NIS group caching is not enabled. > > The only way out of this state I've found is to enable group caching > and then disabling it again. This forces a group update. > > FILER: jar> options nis.group_update.enable on > FILER: Fri Nov 23 14:24:21 MET [rc]: NIS: Group Caching has been enabled > FILER: Fri Nov 23 14:24:21 MET [nis_grp_updater]: Local NIS group update successful. > FILER: jar> options nis.group_update.enable off > FILER: Fri Nov 23 14:24:27 MET [rc]: NIS: Group Caching has been disabled > > Now the ypgroup command stops working: > > FILER: jar> ypgroup testuser > FILER: NIS Group cache not yet updated. > > But at least the credential mapping is correct: > > FILER: jar> wcc -u testuser > FILER: (NT - UNIX) account name(s): (SOFTLAB.LIN\testuser - testuser) > FILER: *************** > FILER: UNIX uid = 31028 > FILER: user is a member of group softlab (30100) > FILER: user is a member of group rally (31042) > FILER: user is a member of group testproj (31038) > FILER: user is a member of group testprod (31039) > FILER: > FILER: NT membership > FILER: SOFTLAB.LIN\testuser > FILER: SOFTLAB.LIN\Domain Users > FILER: SOFTLAB.LIN\Gemini > FILER: BUILTIN\Users > FILER: User is also a member of Everyone, Network Users, > FILER: Authenticated Users > FILER: *************** > > Now the user can access the group's files over both NFS and CIFS. Can > anyone make head or tail of this? > > /Leif Nixon -- Audry Peterson mailto:audry.peterson@fnc.fujitsu.com Fujitsu Network Communications, Inc. Phone : (972) 479-2137 2801 Telecom Parkway FAX : (972) 479-6989 Richardson, TX 75082 --

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Bug in /etc/sysconfigtab (ONTAP 6.1.1R1)
by Rune Bakken 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

Hmm, just noticed (after returning home after a service window) that the filer I just installed another FC card (X2030B) in slot 2, didn't like the card in that position. The error message in the autosupport mail was: sysconfig: QLogic ISP 2100 32-bit Fibre Channel card (PN X2030B) in slot 2 must be in one of these slots: 8,7,6,3,3,1. It didn't hit me untill I spent 10 minutes talking to someone at the frontline of NetApp Support, that I did install the card in the correct slot (I did verify with the system configuration tool in NOW before installing). I blame the time of night, but as more time spent looking at the error message, I still could not shake the thought that something was wrong with the pattern "8,7,6,3,3,1" According to the lady, (and BUG 54796) the work-around was to ignore the error (slot 2 is supported) or move the card and wait for the next release of ONTAP. I edited the sysconfig instead to read allow F740 X2030B 3 8,7,6,3,2,1 1 and 'voila', sysconfig -c did not complain anymore. I felt better, atleast - even without NetApp support. >>>>>>>>>.rune -- Rune Bakken "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. System Administrator When they wake up in the morning, that's as Nextra, good as they're going to feel all day." - Telenor Company - Frank Sinatra

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RE: Upgrade from F740 to F840
by Todd Phillips 27 Nov '01

27 Nov '01

Fairly straight forward. There is documentation out there if you search the NOW site. I have it but, it's on my other PC. I'll send it to you when I get a chance. Basically, all you do is an OnTap upgrade. Just unzip the new system files, not the boot disks, in the /etc directory, enter "download", halt the Filer. Swap heads and boot up. Be careful about things like NIC slot numbers, hostnames, netbios names, ip addresses, DNS, NIS and things like that. Other words, if you're using the onboard ethernet on your 740, its name is 'hostname'-e0. If you go to Gb-E or even another 10/100 port on the 840, your host name will change to 'hostname'-e8 or something.... This may screw up your DNS and possibly NIS. So, my point is, review the entire config and think about what may change and the possible ramifications. Hope that helps. -----Original Message----- From: Uros Lampret To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: 10/26/2001 5:05 AM Subject: Upgrade from F740 to F840 Hi! I intend to upgrade from F740 to F840. I will only swap heads and keep the disks. I can't seem to find document describing this procedure. Any body done that? How do you change ONTAP from Alpha to Intel version? Regards, Uros

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RE: Advanced Revelation on Netapp
by Hawley, Rob 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

I suggest you contact NetApp customer support. They can help you gather the information required to diagnose the problem. mailto: hawleyr(a)netapp.com US Mail: Network Appliance Inc. Windows Networking Engineering 495 E Java Dr Phone/pager: 408-822-6661 Sunnyvale, CA 94089 Cell 408 893 8342 http://www.netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Zekeriya Eskiocak [mailto:zeskiocak@pro-link.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 12:14 AM To: neil lehrer Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Advanced Revelation on Netapp Hi, Thanks to all friends who responded to my question. I think I could not explain my problem exactly. The application which is called "advanced revelation" is working on winnt 4.0 server and uses its resources-that is a service running on the server. what I have tried is that I mapped the filer volume to the server as F drive and copied all files regarding the application, then tried to run it. It gave a message that it could not find the data files even thet was there on the F drive. This is my problem. Thanks Zek -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of neil lehrer Sent: 19 Kasym 2001 Pazartesi 23:34 To: MCope(a)isisph.com Cc: Zekeriya Eskiocak; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Advanced Revelation on Netapp if you are running from a dos machine you should be able to use the dos smb drivers from microsoft - the ones that came from lanmanager. if you are using any windows based machine the drivers should be there. MCope(a)isisph.com wrote: > > Zekeriya, > > I would definately be interested in hearing if you get this to work. My > company has a few DOS based lab workstations that I would like to connect > to our Filers. The problem is that there is no utility/driver to provide > the SMB protocol to DOS. You can get the IPX protocol for DOS but the > Filers do not support IPX. We have not tried to build a NetWare server to > act as a gateway though. In theory the DOS system could connect to the > NetWare server using IPX. The NetWare server would have the NFS.nlm > running to connect it to a Filer. I do something similar for our Macintosh > users. I have a Linux box that uses NFS to connect to the Filers and then > it runs the AppleShare protocol as a gateway for the Macs. I do not know > if IPX restricts sharing a share like SMB and NFS do (e.g., an SMB/NFS > client - server or workstation - can not then make that share available to > clients of its own) > > Michael Cope > Unix Systems Administrator > Isis Pharmaceuticals > > > "Zekeriya > Eskiocak" To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > <zeskiocak@pro-lin cc: > k.net> Subject: Advanced Revelation on Netapp > Sent by: > owner-toasters@mat > hworks.com > > > 11/19/01 12:49 PM > > > > Hi All, > > I tried to run on my Netapp F820 an old DOS based 16 bit application called > "advanced revelation" uses a flat file database. Unfortunately I am not > successful. The application does not recognize the mapped network drive. Is > there any way/trick to make it working on the filer? > Has anybody tried such applications on Netapp Filers or remote drives? > > Thanks in advance > > Zekeriya Eskiocak > System Engineer > > Prolink Services > > Istanbul/TURKEY -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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NIS group trouble
by Leif Nixon 23 Nov '01

23 Nov '01

It seems my filer (F720, ONTAP 5.3.6R2) caches NIS group lookups even if nis.group_update.enable is set to off. This is what happens when I add the user "testuser" to the group "rally": Initially both a Unix NIS client and the filer agree that the user isn't in the group: UNIX: % ypmatch rally group UNIX: rally:*:31042:jfrid,leif FILER: jar> ypgroup testuser FILER: User "testuser" belongs to the following group(s): FILER: name: testproj gid: 31038 FILER: name: testprod gid: 31039 Then I add the user to the group and do a ypmake. The Unix client immediately picks up the change: UNIX: % ypmatch rally group UNIX: rally:*:31042:jfrid,leif,testuser But the filer doesn't: FILER: jar> ypgroup testuser FILER: User "testuser" belongs to the following group(s): FILER: name: testproj gid: 31038 FILER: name: testprod gid: 31039 The filer is supposed to not cache group lookups: FILER: jar> options nis.group_update.enable FILER: nis.group_update.enable off In this state, the user can access the group's files just fine from an NFS Unix client, but gets "permission denied" when attempting the same from a CIFS client. Clearing the WCC cache with "wcc -x" doesn't help. Trying to manually force a group cache update doesn't work: FILER: jar> options nis.group_update_schedule now FILER: Local NIS group update failed now. NIS group caching is not enabled. The only way out of this state I've found is to enable group caching and then disabling it again. This forces a group update. FILER: jar> options nis.group_update.enable on FILER: Fri Nov 23 14:24:21 MET [rc]: NIS: Group Caching has been enabled FILER: Fri Nov 23 14:24:21 MET [nis_grp_updater]: Local NIS group update successful. FILER: jar> options nis.group_update.enable off FILER: Fri Nov 23 14:24:27 MET [rc]: NIS: Group Caching has been disabled Now the ypgroup command stops working: FILER: jar> ypgroup testuser FILER: NIS Group cache not yet updated. But at least the credential mapping is correct: FILER: jar> wcc -u testuser FILER: (NT - UNIX) account name(s): (SOFTLAB.LIN\testuser - testuser) FILER: *************** FILER: UNIX uid = 31028 FILER: user is a member of group softlab (30100) FILER: user is a member of group rally (31042) FILER: user is a member of group testproj (31038) FILER: user is a member of group testprod (31039) FILER: FILER: NT membership FILER: SOFTLAB.LIN\testuser FILER: SOFTLAB.LIN\Domain Users FILER: SOFTLAB.LIN\Gemini FILER: BUILTIN\Users FILER: User is also a member of Everyone, Network Users, FILER: Authenticated Users FILER: *************** Now the user can access the group's files over both NFS and CIFS. Can anyone make head or tail of this? /Leif Nixon

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Upgrading Snapmirror-System 5.3.7R3 to 6.0.3
by Phil Hill 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

Hi all, we are planning tomorrow upgrading two snapmirrored F740s from 5.3.7R3 to 6.0.3 . Questions: 1. Which system do we upgrade first? ( destination or source filer ? ) 2. Turn OFF snapmirror prior to upgrade? 3. At what time can I restart the mirror ? -- after "vol status -c" tells me checksums are active ? Note: This could last probably two weeks until there are no 5.x snapshots anymore. -- or directly after both filers are up with the new Ontap 6.x ? -- is it necessary to delete all snapshots - to speed up the WAFL upgrade on both systems -- or is it ok to delete just the snapshots on the destination filer ? 4. And is there something else to consider ? I did not find any doku on this. Thanks for help and advise Phil

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Help with FTP required
by David Lockwood 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Can anyone tell me whether enabling FTP requires a filer reboot. I am running an F720 and would like to make sure that I do not upset any of our users. Thanks in advance David ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For further information on Benetton Formula 1 visit our web site at www.benettonf1.com. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please destroy and notify Benetton Formula on +44 1608678000." ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Help with FTP required
by Mike Sphar 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

It didn't require a reboot for me. -- Mike Sphar - Iron Chef UNIX - R&D Support Peregrine Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: David Lockwood [mailto:David.Lockwood@benettonformula.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:14 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Help with FTP required Can anyone tell me whether enabling FTP requires a filer reboot. I am running an F720 and would like to make sure that I do not upset any of our users. Thanks in advance David ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For further information on Benetton Formula 1 visit our web site at www.benettonf1.com. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please destroy and notify Benetton Formula on +44 1608678000." ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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mailbox disks invaild ?
by Daniel Jung 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Hi fellow toasters, I am seeing "but takeover of partner is disabled due to reason : mailbox disks invalid." error in messages. We have two F630s that are "suppose" to be clustered (Fiber) but failed due to above problem. Also, there are a lot of "Data underrun" errors on root volume disks in the messages as well. According to the NOW site, I could run fctest to find out if there is any hardware problems which I am planning on doing. Just wondering if anyone has seen this problem or has experienced it before. Thanks for your help. Daniel Jung System Administrator GMO inc

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RE: Advanced Revelation on Netapp
by jwitham＠takedapharm.com 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Flawless NetBIOS boot disk: http://www.bovistech.com/detect.htm Simply edit the autoexec.bat to reflect your workgroup/domain name and you're golden! Autodetects most NICs, randomizes the netbios name, has generic CDROM drivers, disk utilities, etc... It's a real keeper! I've had problems using it to GHOST files UP to the filer, but GHOST sessions fly down. Someone on the list suggested creating another NetBIOS alias and modifying a buffer, but I forgot about it and never tried it... -john John Witham Senior Data Networking Engineer Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. V://847.383.3304 F://847.383.3205 mailto://jwitham@takedapharm.com Confucius say he who play as root eventually kill tree -----Original Message----- From: neil lehrer [mailto:nlehrer@ibb.gov] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:34 PM To: MCope(a)isisph.com Cc: Zekeriya Eskiocak; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Advanced Revelation on Netapp if you are running from a dos machine you should be able to use the dos smb drivers from microsoft - the ones that came from lanmanager. if you are using any windows based machine the drivers should be there. MCope(a)isisph.com wrote: > > Zekeriya, > > I would definately be interested in hearing if you get this to work. My > company has a few DOS based lab workstations that I would like to connect > to our Filers. The problem is that there is no utility/driver to provide > the SMB protocol to DOS. You can get the IPX protocol for DOS but the > Filers do not support IPX. We have not tried to build a NetWare server to > act as a gateway though. In theory the DOS system could connect to the > NetWare server using IPX. The NetWare server would have the NFS.nlm > running to connect it to a Filer. I do something similar for our Macintosh > users. I have a Linux box that uses NFS to connect to the Filers and then > it runs the AppleShare protocol as a gateway for the Macs. I do not know > if IPX restricts sharing a share like SMB and NFS do (e.g., an SMB/NFS > client - server or workstation - can not then make that share available to > clients of its own) > > Michael Cope > Unix Systems Administrator > Isis Pharmaceuticals > > > "Zekeriya > Eskiocak" To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > <zeskiocak@pro-lin cc: > k.net> Subject: Advanced Revelation on Netapp > Sent by: > owner-toasters@mat > hworks.com > > > 11/19/01 12:49 PM > > > > Hi All, > > I tried to run on my Netapp F820 an old DOS based 16 bit application called > "advanced revelation" uses a flat file database. Unfortunately I am not > successful. The application does not recognize the mapped network drive. Is > there any way/trick to make it working on the filer? > Has anybody tried such applications on Netapp Filers or remote drives? > > Thanks in advance > > Zekeriya Eskiocak > System Engineer > > Prolink Services > > Istanbul/TURKEY -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.

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RE: Advanced Revelation on Netapp
by jwitham＠takedapharm.com 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

How did you map the drive? Did you use the AutoExNT service as described at http://www.netapp.com/tech_library/3054.html ? We've had very good luck with it. Another thing you might want to check is that there are no "Advanced Revelation" NT services running as the 'System' account. System has full control of the local filesystem of the server, but has NO RIGHTS outside of the box (network drives, etc...) -john John Witham Senior Data Networking Engineer Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. V://847.383.3304 F://847.383.3205 mailto://jwitham@takedapharm.com Confucius say he who play as root eventually kill tree -----Original Message----- From: Zekeriya Eskiocak [mailto:zeskiocak@pro-link.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:14 AM To: neil lehrer Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Advanced Revelation on Netapp Hi, Thanks to all friends who responded to my question. I think I could not explain my problem exactly. The application which is called "advanced revelation" is working on winnt 4.0 server and uses its resources-that is a service running on the server. what I have tried is that I mapped the filer volume to the server as F drive and copied all files regarding the application, then tried to run it. It gave a message that it could not find the data files even thet was there on the F drive. This is my problem. Thanks Zek -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of neil lehrer Sent: 19 Kasym 2001 Pazartesi 23:34 To: MCope(a)isisph.com Cc: Zekeriya Eskiocak; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Advanced Revelation on Netapp if you are running from a dos machine you should be able to use the dos smb drivers from microsoft - the ones that came from lanmanager. if you are using any windows based machine the drivers should be there. MCope(a)isisph.com wrote: > > Zekeriya, > > I would definately be interested in hearing if you get this to work. My > company has a few DOS based lab workstations that I would like to connect > to our Filers. The problem is that there is no utility/driver to provide > the SMB protocol to DOS. You can get the IPX protocol for DOS but the > Filers do not support IPX. We have not tried to build a NetWare server to > act as a gateway though. In theory the DOS system could connect to the > NetWare server using IPX. The NetWare server would have the NFS.nlm > running to connect it to a Filer. I do something similar for our Macintosh > users. I have a Linux box that uses NFS to connect to the Filers and then > it runs the AppleShare protocol as a gateway for the Macs. I do not know > if IPX restricts sharing a share like SMB and NFS do (e.g., an SMB/NFS > client - server or workstation - can not then make that share available to > clients of its own) > > Michael Cope > Unix Systems Administrator > Isis Pharmaceuticals > > > "Zekeriya > Eskiocak" To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > <zeskiocak@pro-lin cc: > k.net> Subject: Advanced Revelation on Netapp > Sent by: > owner-toasters@mat > hworks.com > > > 11/19/01 12:49 PM > > > > Hi All, > > I tried to run on my Netapp F820 an old DOS based 16 bit application called > "advanced revelation" uses a flat file database. Unfortunately I am not > successful. The application does not recognize the mapped network drive. Is > there any way/trick to make it working on the filer? > Has anybody tried such applications on Netapp Filers or remote drives? > > Thanks in advance > > Zekeriya Eskiocak > System Engineer > > Prolink Services > > Istanbul/TURKEY -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.

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Re: Advanced Revelation on Netapp
by MCope＠isisph.com 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Zekeriya, I would definately be interested in hearing if you get this to work. My company has a few DOS based lab workstations that I would like to connect to our Filers. The problem is that there is no utility/driver to provide the SMB protocol to DOS. You can get the IPX protocol for DOS but the Filers do not support IPX. We have not tried to build a NetWare server to act as a gateway though. In theory the DOS system could connect to the NetWare server using IPX. The NetWare server would have the NFS.nlm running to connect it to a Filer. I do something similar for our Macintosh users. I have a Linux box that uses NFS to connect to the Filers and then it runs the AppleShare protocol as a gateway for the Macs. I do not know if IPX restricts sharing a share like SMB and NFS do (e.g., an SMB/NFS client - server or workstation - can not then make that share available to clients of its own) Michael Cope Unix Systems Administrator Isis Pharmaceuticals "Zekeriya Eskiocak" To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> <zeskiocak@pro-lin cc: k.net> Subject: Advanced Revelation on Netapp Sent by: owner-toasters@mat hworks.com 11/19/01 12:49 PM Hi All, I tried to run on my Netapp F820 an old DOS based 16 bit application called "advanced revelation" uses a flat file database. Unfortunately I am not successful. The application does not recognize the mapped network drive. Is there any way/trick to make it working on the filer? Has anybody tried such applications on Netapp Filers or remote drives? Thanks in advance Zekeriya Eskiocak System Engineer Prolink Services Istanbul/TURKEY

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Re: snapmirror technologie for oracle-datafiles
by mds＠gbnet.net 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

On Mon 19 Nov, 2001, "Richard L. Rhodes" <rhodesr(a)firstenergycorp.com> wrote: > On 19 Nov 2001, at 13:24, kevin graham wrote: > > I thought this was supported with the a resync - you can break the > mirror, use it, then resync it, all without a full sync. This is certainly possible with VxVM 3.2 for Unix, where you have additional objects to maintain metadata about where an off-split mirror differs from the on-line mirror. This represents yet another license to buy. Without such a fast resync option, the whole mirror does need to be resilvered, and that does get painful. I'd imagine other volume managers may have similar functionality. > > Rick >-- End of excerpt from "Richard L. Rhodes" -- -Mark ... an Englishman in London ...

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Advanced Revelation on Netapp
by Zekeriya Eskiocak 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Hi All, I tried to run on my Netapp F820 an old DOS based 16 bit application called "advanced revelation" uses a flat file database. Unfortunately I am not successful. The application does not recognize the mapped network drive. Is there any way/trick to make it working on the filer? Has anybody tried such applications on Netapp Filers or remote drives? Thanks in advance Zekeriya Eskiocak System Engineer Prolink Services Istanbul/TURKEY

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snapmirror technologie for oracle-datafiles
by Claus.Zimmermann＠genorz.de 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Hi, we use operating system Solaris 8 on arbitrary SUN-hardware and Oracle 8.1.5 or higher and NetApp-ONTAB 5.3 (or higher) and want to use the snapmirror & cluster-technologie for Oracle-datafiles exactly as described in the technical documents TR3046 & TR3057 of Network Appliance. Network Appliance states that the fully support this! Has anyone positiv or negativ experience concerning this subject??!! with kind regards Claus Zimmermann/db-administrator/GENO RZ Frankfurt am Main email: claus.zimmermann(a)genorz.de

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Filer, NT, Informix...
by Uros Lampret 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Have any body tried this combination. I'm going to try it out and I'm interested in some backup strategies in this combination. Best regards, Uros _____________________________ Uros Lampret Our Space Appliances d.o.o.

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RE: snapmirror technologie for oracle-datafiles
by Noll, Kevin 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Hi With loads of doubt from our oracle department, we tested and tried snapmirror with 4 versions of oracle all running on solaris 2.6 All with great success. Recommend adding a snap shot done at one time during the night, when the database is in backup mode to have a definite backup. Also, if you want protection from user intervention, make the schedule on snap mirror to run once an hour so you have some time difference (async mirror) which is sometimes quite handy. KEVIN -----Original Message----- From: Claus.Zimmermann(a)genorz.de [mailto:Claus.Zimmermann@genorz.de] Sent: 19 November 2001 16:10 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Cc: Ulrich.Jehle(a)genorz.de Subject: snapmirror technologie for oracle-datafiles Hi, we use operating system Solaris 8 on arbitrary SUN-hardware and Oracle 8.1.5 or higher and NetApp-ONTAB 5.3 (or higher) and want to use the snapmirror & cluster-technologie for Oracle-datafiles exactly as described in the technical documents TR3046 & TR3057 of Network Appliance. Network Appliance states that the fully support this! Has anyone positiv or negativ experience concerning this subject??!! with kind regards Claus Zimmermann/db-administrator/GENO RZ Frankfurt am Main email: claus.zimmermann(a)genorz.de ******************************************************************************************** " This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst & Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message ". ********************************************************************************************

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mrtg temperature question
by Greg Wilson 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Hello There is a warning email sent when the temperature gets too hot. It spits out a message like <snip> System Notification from orc (OVER_TEMPERATURE_WARNING!!!) EMERGENCY Tue Sep 25 12:20:00 EST [monitor.temp.ok:notice]: Temp Unit A within normal operating temperature range Current temperature 45 Celsius Normal low 5 Celsius Normal high 45 Celsius Tue Sep 25 12:20:29 EST [monitor.temp.warning:warning]: System high temperature warning!! Current temperature 46 Celsius Normal low 5 Celsius Normal high 45 Celsius Critical low 0 Celsius Critical high 50 Celsius <snip> does anyone know if you can get this value by SNMP Is anyone graphing the temperature of their filers with MRTG.. thanks gw -- Greg Wilson System Administrator gwilson(a)connect.com.au

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Looking to purchase older Filer SCSI tape, disk drives, shelf
by Scott Chellis 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Scott B. Chellis Consulting I/T Architect - Network Integration - MCNE, CCNA, CCNP, CIFI South Outsourcing Network Design Office : 919.852.4080 Tieline: 223.9629 Fax : 919.485.1912 Cellular: 919.244.7050 Pager: 800.252.5972 Email: schellis(a)us.ibm.com Notes: Scott Chellis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS ----- Forwarded by Scott Chellis/Raleigh/IBM on 11/19/01 09:20 AM ----- Scott Chellis/Raleigh/IB To: toasters(a)mathworks.com M@IBMUS cc: Sent by: Subject: Looking to purchase older Filer SCSI tape, disk drives, owner-toasters@mat shelf hworks.com 08/03/01 08:41 PM Hi, I am looking to purchase our would appreciate source information for purchase of: qty(3) (or more) 4GB ST15230N disk drives with/in canisters. qty(1) StorageShelf1 with or without drives Exabyte 8505 tape drive with proper mounting bracket, cable, etc for internal F520 install. Any information on any part of the above would be greatly appreciated -- replies to me directly. Thanks Scott B. Chellis Consulting I/T Architect - Network Integration - MCNE, CCNA, CCNP, CIFI South Outsourcing Network Design Office : 919.852.4080 Tieline: 223.9629 Fax : 919.852.4020 Cellular: 919.244.7050 Pager: 800.252.5972 Email: schellis(a)us.ibm.com Notes: Scott Chellis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS

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Moving ClearCase to Netapp
by Lewis M. Church 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

We currently run ClearCase 4.0 using local disk for our vob and view storage. We're interested in moving the entirety of our ClearCase storage to NetApp. Ideally, we'd like to simply shutdown ClearCase, copy the vobstore and viewstore data to the NetApp filesystems, remount the NetApp filesystems at the same mount-point as the local filesystems had been and restart ClearCase. I've never been given a clear explanation from Rational on whether this would work or not, but the general feeling has been that it won't. When I've pressed for a reason why not, I've been told "because it's not the method that's documented" My question for netapp folks out there is if anyone's attempted what I've described above and if it worked or not. Also if you know it won't work and could explain to me why, I'd appreciate it. Note, our ClearCase is running on HPUX 10.20, the NetApp is configured only for NFS, no CIFS. Thanks, Lew Church Telcordia Technologies, Inc. lchurch(a)telcordia.com

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