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Samba PDC & NetApp
by X Gynt 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

Did anyone have any success using Samba (2.2.2?) as the PDC for NetApp's /Gynt -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup 1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http:/…

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SecureAdmin
by fubar＠pir.net 12 Dec '01

12 Dec '01

SecureAdmin 2.1.1 ONTAP 6.1R1 New system, just slapped SecureAdmin on it... secure filer view works happily, ssh has ... issues. I can connect fine from a host running ssh v1.2.27, but connecting from OpenSSH hosts seems to fail. Said hosts are FreeBSD and Solaris running 2.3.0 and 2.5.1_p1 respectively. Initially, I thought it was a protocol 2 issue, but that's not it. Here's what happens: SSH Version OpenSSH_2.3.0 green(a)FreeBSD.org 20010321, protocol versions 1.5/2.0. Compiled with SSL (0x0090600f). debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug: Applying options for * debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0 debug: Connecting to (null) [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] port 22. debug: Allocated local port 1022. debug: Connection established. debug: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version 2.1.1 debug: match: 2.1.1 pat ^2\. debug: Local version string SSH-1.5-OpenSSH_2.3.0 green(a)FreeBSD.org 20010321 debug: Waiting for server public key. debug: Received server public key (512 bits) and host key (768 bits). debug: Host 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug: Encryption type: 3des debug: Sent encrypted session key. debug: Installing crc compensation attack detector. debug: Received encrypted confirmation. debug: Doing password authentication. root(a)xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx's password: debug: Requesting pty. debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding. debug: Requesting authentication agent forwarding. Warning: Remote host denied authentication agent forwarding. debug: Requesting shell. debug: Entering interactive session. Connection to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx closed. debug: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 1, stderr 36 bytes in 0.5 seconds debug: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 2.0, stderr 73.4 debug: Exit status 0 I can't imagine that everyone out there using ssh on the filer is also still using the old ssh versions, so it's gotta be me. Right? K.

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Looking to buy 3 FC DB9M to DB9M cables and a loopback adapter today
by Ulf Zimmermann 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

Hello, I just got a F720 with 3 shelves, unfortunatly all the cables are missing. So I would like to buy if possible today those cables and a loopback adapter. I am sitting in Menlo Park right now. Any takers ? -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204

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subst command
by neil lehrer 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

hi, our home dir structure does not match netapp's homedir options nor is net use viable because we currently use users\firstletterofuid\uid users\n\nlehrer so i am testing subst subst h: \\filer\users\n\nlehrer it works, but if i try to get permissions for a file or dir i get: no network provider accepted the given network path domain is nt4 client is nt4 filer is 6.1.1r2, cifs and nfs. anybody seen this? comments -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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RE: NDMP v4
by Manley, David 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

> I'm looking more from a backup >operator's point of view, so I'm also assuming that the backup vendors >are working on implementing this new version of NDMP in their software. Yes, the implication here is exactly right--v4 certainly buys you nothing if the backup vendor doesn't yet support v4. However, I believe most vendors are planning to release support for this fairly soon. (I'll avoid putting my foot further into my mouth with anything more specific.) Furthermore, besides the requirement of fixing some loopholes which caused troubles and cleaning up error reporting somewhat, alot of the new functionality is provided by extensions to the base protocol. And implementing any given extension is optional with v4. So I guess the short answer is: for now, there's probably no benefit to turning on ndmp v4. In the future, there will be some snazzy new things (for example snapshot management from the backup application). Cheers, dave -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Hardin To: toasters(a)mathworks.com; quickrestore(a)dalsemi.com Sent: 12/11/01 6:51 AM Subject: NDMP v4 I just got the product availabilty release from NetApp this morning for DOT 6.1.2 and it mentioned support for NDMP v4. Anyone know what this buys the average end-user? I'm looking more from a backup operator's point of view, so I'm also assuming that the backup vendors are working on implementing this new version of NDMP in their software. I tried reading the draft proposal for v4, but it's rather dry reading to the layman. I included the link in case anyone else is interested (or an insomniac). http://www.ndmp.org/download/sdk_v4/draft-skardal-ndmpv4-03.txt Thanks, Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com

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NDMP v4
by Geoff Hardin 11 Dec '01

11 Dec '01

I just got the product availabilty release from NetApp this morning for DOT 6.1.2 and it mentioned support for NDMP v4. Anyone know what this buys the average end-user? I'm looking more from a backup operator's point of view, so I'm also assuming that the backup vendors are working on implementing this new version of NDMP in their software. I tried reading the draft proposal for v4, but it's rather dry reading to the layman. I included the link in case anyone else is interested (or an insomniac). http://www.ndmp.org/download/sdk_v4/draft-skardal-ndmpv4-03.txt Thanks, Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com

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null user login accepted
by Steven Boyer 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

When I have cifs.trace_login set to on I see the user accepted by the DC and then by unix. Sometimes I get "Null user login accepted" does anyone know why that is. Thanks -- Steven N. Boyer UNIX/NT/NetApp Support HQUSCENTCOM General Dynamics --

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Filers attached to sendmail clients
by JV 09 Dec '01

09 Dec '01

Dear Toasters, aka Netapp Filer admins: This is my first post, and my first F840. I have a problem with the ONTAP Autosupport email feature. My Filer is directly connected with a crossover cable, on a private network. The attached unix host (part of the larger corporate intranet) is a sendmail client, not a server. Q. How can I get the NetApp Filer, on a private network (and can only talk to this one unix host), to get it's email forwarded to the $MAILHUB which is a centrally-maintained and very reachable from the afforementioned unix host? Surely someone else on this list has a similar config? Or do y'all just have 100 sendmail servers in your organizations? Thx in advance -

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RE: Upgrading F760 from Ontap 6.01R3 to 6.1.1R2
by Galimi, Grant 09 Dec '01

09 Dec '01

Mustafa, I ran through the upgrade without a problem on 3 filers 3 weeks ago. I upgraded 2 740s and one 720. I have one 720 and one 740 doing a Snapmirror to another 740 in a remote location. I had to turn off the snapmirror schedule first on the source filers (snapmirror off) and upgrade the destination filer first. Everything went very well. Grant Galimi Director, Technical Services The Thomson Corporation 1 Station Place Stamford, CT 06902 203-328-9413 203-977-8344 fax grant.galimi(a)thomson.com <mailto:grant.galimi@thomson.com> http://www.thomson.com <http://www.thomson.com> -----Original Message----- From: Sayla, Mustafa [mailto:MSAYLA@mesirowfinancial.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:17 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Upgrading F760 from Ontap 6.01R3 to 6.1.1R2 We are looking into upgrading our Data Ontap version to 6.1.1R2 and just wanted to find out whether there are issues with it or not. We have to upgrade it because I want to use the new DS14 shelf and it is not supported in 6.0.1R3. We have our Exchange, MS SQL and Sybase data on it. Has anybody done this upgrade and how did it went. Any input will be appreciated. Mustafa

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creation of acls
by neil lehrer 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

hi, i did this on my 760 6.1.1r2 created unix style qtree. copied files from sun box into it. changed qtree to ntfs. set acl on qtree[only] using nt 4 windows explorer. touched existing files from mount on sun box - no acl created on files in qtree. touched a new file from from mount on sun box - acl created on files in qtree. touchd existing file from cifs session - no acl created on file. edited existing file from cifs session - no acl created on file. created new file from cifs session - acl created on file. question, why doesn't editing file cause acl creation? thanks. -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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RE: ndmpcopy
by Manley, David 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

Type: ftp://ftp.ndmp.org/pub/version.2/contrib/ndmpcopy.1.1/ into your browser. Download the file "jndmpcopy.tar.gz." Unzip and untar and install that. This whould have the -i option both in usage and use. If, for some reason, any of the above is false, let me know, but I followed the above steps previously and got a working jndmpcopy. -dave -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kennedy To: NDMP List Sent: 12/7/01 6:59 AM Subject: ndmpcopy I ftp'd ndmpcopy (both version 1.1 and 1.2) from ndmp.org and compiled the binary. BTW, is it just me or are the install instructions incorrect? I had to run gnu make in lib before running make in ndmpcopy directory. Anyway... Now I have a 1.2 binary but when I look at the useage it doesn't mention an 'i' level anywhere. In the README it does but the binary useage does not. So I thought I'd give it a try anyway but it bombs with an error that 'i' is not a valid level. ??? -- ===================== Jeff Kennedy Unix Administrator AMCC jlkennedy(a)amcc.com

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ndmpcopy
by Jeff Kennedy 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

I ftp'd ndmpcopy (both version 1.1 and 1.2) from ndmp.org and compiled the binary. BTW, is it just me or are the install instructions incorrect? I had to run gnu make in lib before running make in ndmpcopy directory. Anyway... Now I have a 1.2 binary but when I look at the useage it doesn't mention an 'i' level anywhere. In the README it does but the binary useage does not. So I thought I'd give it a try anyway but it bombs with an error that 'i' is not a valid level. ??? -- ===================== Jeff Kennedy Unix Administrator AMCC jlkennedy(a)amcc.com

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remove
by Premanshu Jain 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

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Unable to chown/chmod files
by John Coke 07 Dec '01

07 Dec '01

I have inherited configuration of a 740. I struggled for hours trying to install Ontap via CIFs and threw up my hands because I could not map the root volume. So, I tried NFS and did get it to mount and even got the new OS to copy over to the filer. The problem is I cannot change the permissions of any of the files nor change their owner. I _can_ create/edit files. This was particularly irritating when the install script untarred all of the OS files to the filer and the screen filled with "Operation not permitted" messages. Anyone overcome this problem before? Thanks. Note: UNIX style permissions CIFS is disabled (for the moment). NetApp Release 6.1.1R2 NFS client is Linux -John

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RE: NDMP DAR issues
by Thomas.L.White＠jpmorgan.com 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

I suppose this is a different issue than what I saw but I never heard of thes settings when my ACL's were not being "written" via ndmpcopy and for me - this is why the patch level 6.1R1D10 exists - there is a Bug ID somewhere that explains my issue. will try to track it down tw "Chitre, Amol" <Amol.Chitre(a)netapp.com>@mathworks.com on 12/03/2001 02:40:38 PM Sent by: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com To: "'neil lehrer'" <nlehrer(a)ibb.gov>, toasters <toasters(a)mathworks.com> cc: Subject: RE: NDMP DAR issues Hi Neil, This particular issue is related to Legato Networker 6.1. They do not set the EXTRACT_ACL ndmp environement variable to T. The default value for that variable is F. That was causing the restore for ACLs to fail. The fix for *this* issue requires the customer to set this variable in the legato GUI configuration. If you need any more information on how to set this, please let me know. Thanks, Amol. >-----Original Message----- >From: neil lehrer [mailto:nlehrer@ibb.gov] >Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 8:06 AM >To: toasters >Subject: NDMP DAR issues > > >from netapp buglist >i am f760 ontap 6.1.1r2 > >does anyone know anything about this: > >"there are two issues with restoring ACLs via the filer's NDMP >Local Direct >Access Restore capability. First, you need to set the NDMP >Client Environment >Variable "EXTRACT_ACL" to TRUE. The variable currently >defaults to FALSE. >If you cannot see a listing of this variable in your client, >it is set to FALSE. >Contact your client's support to assist you in setting this >variable..... >" >-- > > >regards >

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RE: Performance issue
by MCope＠isisph.com 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

That's exactly what we're seeing (I'm also seeing some latency doing a save). I had someone from Tech Support tell me he had heard something out of the labs about a problem specifically with MS Office apps. Apparently, the Office apps send out a boatload of questionable RPC requests but ONTAP only responds to about 5 of them and Office waits until the others time out waiting for a response. He promised to send me anything written on it he could find but so far I haven't seen or heard anything else. We're still running Office 97 so I would have thought this issue would have come up and been solved a long time ago. Michael "Sayla, Mustafa" <MSAYLA@mesirowfina To: "'MCope(a)isisph.com'" <MCope(a)isisph.com> ncial.com> cc: Subject: RE: Performance issue 12/06/01 12:30 PM We are also experiencing the same sort of problem. I have a F760 running 6.0.1R3. In our case the first time you open any office document it takes about 15-25 seconds but after that if you open the same document or any other document it opens in 2 seconds. We are also using NAV. If you have found out any solution please let us know. I also have a case open with Netapp for about a month now but no real solution from their side. Mustafa -----Original Message----- From: MCope(a)isisph.com [mailto:MCope@isisph.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:48 AM To: Haber, David J. Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Performance issue David, Exactly what kind of issues are you seeing. I have the exact same setup except I have Gigabit instead of 100Mb. The issue primarily seems to be opening Office files from a share can take 30+ seconds. Other files types don't seem to be such an issue although I've personally seen a tiny text file take 20 seconds to open in Notepad. I've been the lone voice in the wilderness claiming it's not a Filer problem although it sounds like that might not be entirely true. We did see that running NAV with network drive checking enabled significantly made file access slower. We've done extensive testing and trouble shooting with the local NetApp folks. They discovered the NAV problem. The biggest reason I've not been looking at the Filer as a source of the problem is we've experienced the exact same behavior when accessing files from a share on an NT server. That in conjunction with some packet captures we've done seem to point to a problem with NT's TCP/IP stack. The stack starts out using very small packets and takes forever to ramp up to a decent packet size (Win2K is much faster - in tests a Win2K box on 100Mb ran laps around an NT server using Gigabit). We also use NIS as our primary means of authentication on the Filer and we still haven't ruled this out as an issue. I'm certainly interested in learning more about your problem and everything you learn/hear. This has been made a "top priority" for me to resolve and it's been frustrating because there doesn't seem to be a "smoking gun" and in the meanwhile management and users are cursing the good name of NetApp. Michael Cope Unix Systems Administrator Isis Pharmaceuticals mcope(a)isisph.com

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Upgrading F760 from Ontap 6.01R3 to 6.1.1R2
by Sayla, Mustafa 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

We are looking into upgrading our Data Ontap version to 6.1.1R2 and just wanted to find out whether there are issues with it or not. We have to upgrade it because I want to use the new DS14 shelf and it is not supported in 6.0.1R3. We have our Exchange, MS SQL and Sybase data on it. Has anybody done this upgrade and how did it went. Any input will be appreciated. Mustafa

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RE: Compressing files on filer running CIFS
by Nail, Larry 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

Mike, it's not available -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hopkins [mailto:Mike@BroadDaylight.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 7:04 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Compressing files on filer running CIFS Can you compress files on a filer like you can with Windows 2000 NTFS volumes? I have an F740 filer running NetApp Release 6.1R1 When I right-click on a folder on the filer, I don't see the option to 'compress' Michael Hopkins mike(a)BroadDaylight.com Systems Administrator phone 408.551.4750 Broad Daylight, Inc. fax 408.557.9058 See our solutions in action: http://www.broaddaylight.com/Flash/customers/index.html.

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Compressing files on filer running CIFS
by Mike Hopkins 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

Can you compress files on a filer like you can with Windows 2000 NTFS volumes? I have an F740 filer running NetApp Release 6.1R1 When I right-click on a folder on the filer, I don't see the option to 'compress' Michael Hopkins mike(a)BroadDaylight.com Systems Administrator phone 408.551.4750 Broad Daylight, Inc. fax 408.557.9058 See our solutions in action: http://www.broaddaylight.com/Flash/customers/index.html.

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DB/2 on a 840c
by Ziller, Frank 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Is anyone running a clustered DB/2 environment on a 840c? Frank Ziller Senior Manager, IS Network Center IKON The Way Business Gets Communicated 4900 Avalon Ridge Parkway Norcross, GA 30071 770.326.1106 Email: fziller(a)ikon.com

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Quota resize and QUOTA_PERFORM_USER_MAPPING
by Jacek Nogala 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

IHAC (I am working for NetApp reseller) who is using quota on multiprotocol filer (6.1R1). Default quota are as following: /etc/quotas: QUOTA_PERFORM_USER_MAPPING on /vol/vol1/home tree 300G - /vol/vol1/profile tree 5G - * user@/vol/vol1/profile 20M - * user@/vol/vol1/home 600G - and quota reports shows: Type ID Volume Tree Used Limit Used Limit Quota Specifier ----- -------- -------- -------- -------- -------- ------- ------- --- ------------ tree 2 vol1 home 481684 314572800 457 - /vol/vol1/home tree 1 vol1 profile 400 5242880 2 - /vol/vol1/profile user * vol1 home 0 629145600 0 - * user * vol1 profile 0 20480 0 - * user chopin vol1 home 6824 629145600 5 - user gs20787 vol1 home 3028 629145600 384 - user \chopin vol1 profile 400 20480 1 - user root vol1 home 307540 - 7 - user kvas vol1 home 4 629145600 2 - user pg23193 vol1 home 164288 629145600 54 - So far OK. But when he is trying to change default quota for user chopin to specific one: chopin user@/vol/vol1/home 1G - quota resize does not work: quota resize: warning: /etc/quotas:6: skipping new entry Of course quota off/on can be workaround but it lasts over 15 minutes so admin does not want to accept it. It can be an issue with user mapping because without QUOTA_PERFORM_USER_MAPPING=on quota resize seems to work as expected. Is it be a bug or I overlooked something in configuration? Best regards, Jacek Nogala ***************************************************** Jacek Nogala tel: +48 (22) 607-04-53 Inżynier Systemowy kom: +48 605 67-22-12 NetApp Filer CA e-mail: J.Nogala(a)dimax.pl Dimax Polska Sp. z o.o. ul. Marynarska 19A 02-674 Warszawa *****************************************************

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Problems with WIndows 2000 redirections and cifs.home_dir option
by Benny Wiström 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Hi! I want to use the cifs.home_dir options to map users home directories in a Windows 2000 environment. In Windows 2000 we use Group Policies which redirect the "My Documents" and "Application Data" folders to every users home directory. Now it looks like the group policy uses the windows system account to check if the UNC-path \\filer\homedirshare exists before the user has mapped the homedirectory. Since I use the cifs.home_dir option the share doesn't exist until I access it as the user whose name is the same as the directory name. This gives me a number of errors in the event viewer of which one looks like this: The Group Policy client-side extension Application Management was passed flags (0) and returned a failure status code of (1603). Has anyone seen this problem before? -- Regards: Benny Wiström CSC Phone: +46 13 4653647 Systemadministrator 581 88 Linköping Fax: +46 13 185771 Benny.Wistrom(a)consultant.saab.se Sweden Mobile: +46 13 4653647 Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. -Calvin & Hobbes (Bill Watterson)

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multiple host names for nfs?
by neil lehrer 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

under 6.1.1r2 we use the cifs.netbios_aliases option to put more than 1 host name in wins. is there anyway to get a filer to show up in an nfs client with more than 1 host name? putting an alias in dns allows cmdline access thru that name, but of course, not in windows explorer. thanks -- regards

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Re: NDMP software ?
by Rune Bakken 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

Frank Bonnet <bonnetf(a)bart.esiee.fr> writes: > Hi > > I'm trying to use two NDMP software to > backup our filer ( 85 ) on a HP DLT8000 autoloader > > the dump and restore commands are working fine If the dump/restore commands works fine, but not NDMP -- I would suggest that you check for network problems. You may want to telnet to your netapp port 10000 from your netbackup-server. You ought to see something like the example below: % telnet <netapp> 10000 Trying 10.10.10.10... Connected to <netapp> Escape character is '^]'. ;£Connection successful ^C quit ]]^C^C^CConnection closed by foreign host. If this works, then there may be a problem with the configuration of the software. And there is, unfortunately too numerous, pitfalls one may step into. >>>>>>>>.rune -- Rune Bakken "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. System Administrator When they wake up in the morning, that's as Nextra, good as they're going to feel all day." - Telenor Company - Frank Sinatra

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RE: ndmpcopy - java version
by Manley, David 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

You can pick it up at: ftp://ftp.ndmp.org/pub/version.2/contrib/ndmpcopy.1.1/ -dave ps: Quick caveat, beware of using "i" for incrementals forever (say beyond 9), things get dodgy beyond a certain point of stringing them along. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kennedy To: NDMP List Sent: 12/4/01 10:47 AM Subject: ndmpcopy - java version I need the "i" capability in jndmpcopy but cannot find it. A search on google found messages contining jndmpcopy discussions but no link to binary. Also not on ndmp.org. Thanks. -- ===================== Jeff Kennedy Unix Administrator AMCC jlkennedy(a)amcc.com

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