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How do I know if ACLs have been set on a file?
by Öberg Mats 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Hi, I have kind of a problem on one of our filers, we have a directory structure that consists of around 500000 directories. We run this filer in mixed mode, which means that a number of directories and files have NT-acls and others have unix-rights. Now, how can I find out what files/directories have ACL-s set? I know I could use the SecureShare-Tab from the Nt-side, but I don't think I will live for another 100years, so is there another way? ---- Mats

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Re: Use for bad drives
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

Hello, John: There is a possibility that your "expired" NetApp drives can be repaired. Go to: http://www.seagate.com/support/service/warranty_validation.html Surprisingly, some NetApp disk drives -- but not all -- can actually be returned by the end user directly to Seagate for warranty repair! To extract the drive from the NetApp cannister, you simply have to remove the four Phillips head screws on top and gently slide it out. (If you don't get lucky on the Seagate warranty, we'd be happy to quote you an inexpensive replacement drive!) Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com In a message dated 3/8/2002 4:10:04 PM Central Standard Time, jcoke(a)ibeam.com writes: > I have a couple of expired 18GB FC drives and am wondering what to do with > the bodies. I do not want to throw them away because electronics are not > good for the environment. Does NetApp take them back for "recycling." I > don't really care about getting any money for them though I would like a > prepaid shipping container :-) > > John Coke > Information Security Specialist, Senior Hostmaster - RHCE, CCNA > Williams Communications > ph: 405.717.4895 > cell: 405.209.8519 > PGP fingerprint: 272F C31D 82C5 2C23 531F 65FF F56E 3951 C3B9 DB51 > PGP key ID 0xC3B9DB51 (pgp.mit.edu) > For your safety, this email has been encoded in double ROT13. > >

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DOT 6.1.2R1 dump|restore support on local tape library
by Brian Tao 12 Mar '02

12 Mar '02

What sort of support exists for manipulating tape libraries on a filer? I have an F740 running 6.1.2R1 in a heavy EMC environment using EDM for tape backup. I'm assuming EDM (being an EMC product) will not play well with the Netapp. I can attach an old Exabyte EXB-220 tape library (Mammoth-1 drive, 20 slots) to the F740's on-board SCSI. Given that there is no other backup hardware or software available, what can I do for backups? Is there an "mt" or other DOT command to control the robotics? The filer will eventually hold about 300GB, but I only need a short-term solution for now. First time with a direct-attached tape library... the docs don't say much about tape library support, only tape drives. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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RE: CIFS/NFS case sensitivity...
by Muhlestein, Mark 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

The problem isn't just with the server, it's the client as well. Any Unix-based NFS client will also operate in a case-sensitive manner, as far as I know. Some people have used smbfs (on Linux/BSD+others?) to do achieve case insensitivity, since that uses CIFS to access files. There is another Unix client filesystem called Sharity that can do this for Solaris and several other platforms, I think. I can't vouch for how these work with the filer, but I have heard of people successfully using them. These Unix CIFS filesystems have some definite limitations, but they may be ok for what you are doing. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Mikusko [mailto:guerilla@concentric.net] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:30 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: CIFS/NFS case sensitivity... > > > > > Reading info about case sensitivity and how the filer handles such via > CIFS & NFS clients, Netapp says that CIFS is case insensitive > (but case > preserving) and that NFS is case sensitive. > > Can one make NFS shared files NOT be case sensitive? > > I'm assuming this is just how NFS works, but wondered if > there was some > option that could be set that would allow NFS to ignore case > on the filer. > > > Any ideas on this would be appreciated. > > -Scott > > >

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Re: Use for bad drives
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Hi, Geoff: You're right -- the disk warranties are supposed to be in force only directly with NetApp, but we have been able to get RMAs from Seagate for a number of broken NetApp drives. It's hit or miss, but worth a minute to plug in the serial numbers in hopes of getting lucky! Regards, Scott Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com In a message dated 3/11/2002 12:14:55 PM Central Standard Time, geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com writes: > According to Seagate's web site, they will not RMA the drives because > they were sold as a component to NetApp. The warranty only extends to > the original purchaser and is non-transferable. > > Of course, if you're feeling lucky, you could try to replace the disk > inside with another Seagate drive (they don't sell the model ST318203FC > in their on-line store). The closest I can find on the site is a model > ST318452FC. At $340, it may be worth the chance if it works, compared > to $1,100 to get a disk from NetApp. > > Geoff Hardin > geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com

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CIFS/NFS case sensitivity...
by Scott Mikusko 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Reading info about case sensitivity and how the filer handles such via CIFS & NFS clients, Netapp says that CIFS is case insensitive (but case preserving) and that NFS is case sensitive. Can one make NFS shared files NOT be case sensitive? I'm assuming this is just how NFS works, but wondered if there was some option that could be set that would allow NFS to ignore case on the filer. Any ideas on this would be appreciated. -Scott

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Re: Please help removing from mailing list
by Andrew Yee 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

>>> <lists(a)mathworks.com> Monday, October 15, 2001 11:40:19 AM >>> -- Welcome to the toasters mailing list! Please save this message for future reference. Thank you. If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to <lists(a)mathworks.com> with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe toasters If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to <owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com> . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: This is a totally unofficial mailing list for people who have Network Appliance toasters. It is not blessed by Network Appliance; it is, in true Internet spirit, a pure resource and grapevine for toaster administrators. There is an archive of postings to the list available on the web, which is updated regularly. You can find this, and browse the collected wisdom and net.witterings of other toaster admins and netapp chaps / chappesses at http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters/ . It's searchable through http://teaparty.mathworks.com:1999/toasters/Search.html . It's presently administered by Kendall Libby, <fubar(a)mathworks.com>. He has two F330s and an F760, in case you were wondering. Disclaimy bit: I hate reading bounced email. I'll remove people who start to bounce. >>> "Tim Horn" <thorn(a)synopsys.com> Monday, March 11, 2002 10:06:28 AM >>> Greetings, It seems that my email address has been mistakenly included in this mailing list. Could someone please forward this removal request to an administrator, or reply with removal instructions? Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

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Please help removing from mailing list
by Tim Horn 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Greetings, It seems that my email address has been mistakenly included in this mailing list. Could someone please forward this removal request to an administrator, or reply with removal instructions? Your assistance is greatly appreciated. ************************************* Tim Horn Manager, IT End User Support Synopsys, Inc. M/S 3A2.118B 2025 NW Cornelius Pass Road Hillsboro, OR 97124

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Re: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS
by BK LIM 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

Hi Seth, Does Carrier Scan notified the user when they try to transfer an virus file to the filer? pop out window to show that the file has been infected by virus or has been cleared by the AV server? I have try on Netshield and ServerProtect, they don't alert the users. >From: "Seth Moskowitz" <sethmoskowitz(a)hotmail.com> >To: alf1650(a)hotmail.com, toasters(a)mathworks.com >Subject: Re: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:04:05 -0500 > >I am running Symantec Carrier Scan 2.1.3.19 on both NT and Win2k Servers. I >am seeing very good performance but I am also running them on the same >network as the Filers, the Win2K boxes have GB interfaces and the NT box >has >a trunct 200MB connection. I have been running on NT since last April with >no major issues. > > >>From: "BK LIM" <alf1650(a)hotmail.com> >>To: toasters(a)mathworks.com >>Subject: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS >>Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 01:53:54 +0800 >> >>Hi Toasters, >> >>Anyone using the Antivirus Software working with Netapp box right now? >>How is the performance? Good ? Any comment? >> >>Cheers, >>BK >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. >> > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS
by Seth Moskowitz 11 Mar '02

11 Mar '02

I am running Symantec Carrier Scan 2.1.3.19 on both NT and Win2k Servers. I am seeing very good performance but I am also running them on the same network as the Filers, the Win2K boxes have GB interfaces and the NT box has a trunct 200MB connection. I have been running on NT since last April with no major issues. >From: "BK LIM" <alf1650(a)hotmail.com> >To: toasters(a)mathworks.com >Subject: Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS >Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 01:53:54 +0800 > >Hi Toasters, > >Anyone using the Antivirus Software working with Netapp box right now? >How is the performance? Good ? Any comment? > >Cheers, >BK > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: Hidden .snapshot on NFS?
by Mike Schiraldi 09 Mar '02

09 Mar '02

> try this. > vol options vol0 nosnapdir on > should be able to work This appears to completely disable the directory -- i can't even cd into it. I've been on systems where you didn't see it in, say, ls, but you could still change into the directory: $ ls .snapshot ls: .snapshot: No such file or directory $ cd .snapshot $ ls hourly.0 hourly.2 [snip] However, our installation can't do that. Has anyone been able to get this behavior over NFS?

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Use for bad drives
by John Coke 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

I have a couple of expired 18GB FC drives and am wondering what to do with the bodies. I do not want to throw them away because electronics are not good for the environment. Does NetApp take them back for "recycling." I don't really care about getting any money for them though I would like a prepaid shipping container :-) John Coke Information Security Specialist, Senior Hostmaster - RHCE, CCNA Williams Communications ph: 405.717.4895 cell: 405.209.8519 PGP fingerprint: 272F C31D 82C5 2C23 531F 65FF F56E 3951 C3B9 DB51 PGP key ID 0xC3B9DB51 (pgp.mit.edu) For your safety, this email has been encoded in double ROT13.

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Hidden .snapshot on NFS?
by Mike Schiraldi 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

Is it possible to hide .snapshot when using NFS instead of CIFS? We've tried options.nfs.show_snapshot=off and even, just for kicks, options.cifs.show_snapshot=off ... but it still shows up. Is this a known limitation? Thanks

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Antivirus Software working wif Netapp NAS
by BK LIM 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

Hi Toasters, Anyone using the Antivirus Software working with Netapp box right now? How is the performance? Good ? Any comment? Cheers, BK _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Quota Notifying Script for NT
by BK LIM 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

Hi Toasters, Anyone have the quota Notifying Script for NT? Pls email me thanks, BK _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Linux Client issues
by Ben Rockwood 07 Mar '02

07 Mar '02

Hello Toasters. This isn't really a NetApp specific problem, but what better group to tap for NFS info than this. I've got several NetApp Filers serving, among other things, a pair of VALinux boxes running Linux (kernel 2.2.13 and 2.2.14). The odd thing is that one of the boxes seems to have no problems using the filers. However the other box (2.2.14-5.0.14csmp) keeps throwing fits that look like this: Mar 7 14:06:37 willy kernel: nfs: server 10.100.2.203 not responding, still trying Mar 7 14:06:37 willy kernel: nfs: server 10.100.2.203 not responding, still trying Mar 7 14:06:39 willy kernel: nfs: task 4788 can't get a request slot Mar 7 14:06:39 willy kernel: nfs: task 4789 can't get a request slot Mar 7 14:06:39 willy kernel: nfs: task 4790 can't get a request slot Mar 7 14:13:07 willy kernel: nfs: server 10.100.2.203 OK Mar 7 14:13:13 willy last message repeated 4 times The strange thing here is that the filer does not go offline, the other box is using it at the same time with not problems. Also these errors (in this cycle) start when as user starts a transfer and end a few minutes later. Any ideas? I don't belive this to be a networking issue at this time. Ben Rockwood brockwood(a)homestead-inc.com

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ACL question
by Barry Lustig 07 Mar '02

07 Mar '02

I'm having an odd problem with ACL interactions. I have a volume with a mixed qtree. The ACLs on this volume are all Full Control for DOMAIN\Administrator and everything but Full Control for DOMAIN\Domain Users. This volume is NFS mounted onto a solaris box. If a user creates a file and them creates a symbolic link to that file, the symbolic link cannot be removed by the user. I can remove the link as Administrator, and I can remove the link if, on the windows side, I add Full Control to the ACL. Any ideas? We are running OnTAP 6.1.1R2. barry

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Cabinet power cord
by Pramod 07 Mar '02

07 Mar '02

Hi all, I have a Filer cabinet here with NEMA L6 - 20 plug. To convert it to IEC 309 type do I have to change the entire PDU or just change the plug to fit the socket. Any ideas?? thanks, Pramod

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Re: cifs broadcast cmd
by neil lehrer 07 Mar '02

07 Mar '02

cifs broadcast wkstation message and|or cifs broadcast -v vol0 message work inconsistently. i can send my workstation a message several times and not get a message, and then 5 mins later i can do the same thing and it will work. Alfred Lim wrote: > > Try this, > cifs broadcast -v vol0 testing > > Alfred Lim > > -----Original Message----- > From: neil lehrer <nlehrer(a)ibb.gov> > To: toasters <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 18:54:24 -0500 > Subject: cifs broadcast cmd > > > does this work for anyone? i am getting inconsistent results with 6.1.1r2. no > > message appears on pc, and no error on filer. pktt does not show an smbsend. > > -- > > > > > > regards -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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cifs broadcast cmd
by neil lehrer 07 Mar '02

07 Mar '02

does this work for anyone? i am getting inconsistent results with 6.1.1r2. no message appears on pc, and no error on filer. pktt does not show an smbsend. -- regards

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Re: NDMP backup snapshots ever go away?
by Jim VandeVegt 06 Mar '02

06 Mar '02

I've got one volume (now that I look closer) that has a snapshot_for_backup.XXXX for about every day in the last two weeks that I would have expected a backup to be performed. Should I try to manually delete these? --Jim --- Alfred Lim <alfred(a)ptc.net> wrote: > Hi Jim, > > The snapshot will go away after the backup is done. > So no worry on that. > Alfred Lim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim VandeVegt <vandevegt(a)yahoo.com> > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:08:54 -0800 (PST) > Subject: NDMP backup snapshots ever go away? > > > I'm doing NDMP backups of my F760 Filers and I'm noticing an > > ever-increasing list of snapshots-for-backup accumulating. Do > these > > go away automatically? > > > > ===== > > Jim VandeVegt > > vandevegt(a)yahoo.com vandevegt(a)avaya.com > > http://members.xoom.com/vandevegt > > There is no luck except where there is discipline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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NDMP backup snapshots ever go away?
by Jim VandeVegt 06 Mar '02

06 Mar '02

I'm doing NDMP backups of my F760 Filers and I'm noticing an ever-increasing list of snapshots-for-backup accumulating. Do these go away automatically? ===== Jim VandeVegt vandevegt(a)yahoo.com vandevegt(a)avaya.com http://members.xoom.com/vandevegt There is no luck except where there is discipline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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RE: NDMP backup snapshots ever go away?
by Wiebke, Robert (Robert) 06 Mar '02

06 Mar '02

It depends on your ONTAP version. I had to upgrade our 740 recently from 5.3.6r1 to 6.1.1r2 to allow me to delete these annoying snapshots. Everynow and again a snapshot_for_backup would not delete itself and under 5.3.6r1 the only solution was to reboot or upgrade the ONTAP. -Robert -----Original Message----- From: Jim VandeVegt [mailto:vandevegt@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:09 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NDMP backup snapshots ever go away? I'm doing NDMP backups of my F760 Filers and I'm noticing an ever-increasing list of snapshots-for-backup accumulating. Do these go away automatically? ===== Jim VandeVegt vandevegt(a)yahoo.com vandevegt(a)avaya.com http://members.xoom.com/vandevegt There is no luck except where there is discipline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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f760 motherboard memory
by neil lehrer 06 Mar '02

06 Mar '02

hi, i want to buy some spare DIMMS. does anyone use memory not purchased from netapp? are there reasons to only use netapp mem? what are the specs on the DIMM? the price netapp is quoting me for the 256MB DIMM is surprising and all i have been told is 256MB DIMM which is not enough to find memory from an outside source. thanks

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NFS ports and firewalls
by Peter D. Gray 06 Mar '02

06 Mar '02

Does anybody know or tell me where to find out if the ports used by the netapp filers for NFS, NLM etc are fixed and if so what they are. Regards, pdg -- See mail headers for contact information.

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