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.nfs files
by Clawson, Simon 28 Mar '02

28 Mar '02

Hi! Does anyone know what .nfs files are? How can we delete these files? Thanks Simon Simon Clawson TEL:- +44 (0)1635 811409 HDL Designer Series Team Systems Administrator FAX:- +44 (0)1635 810108 Mentor Graphics Ireland Ltd (UK Branch) MOB:- +44 (0)7788 716071 Rivergate London Road Newbury Berkshire RG14 2QB

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RE: since we're broaching the subject of qtree quota reporting... ..
by Hackworth, Brian 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

: I have some things that I've been working on that would make my quota : monitoring much easier but I don't have the skill required to finish : it. I'm hoping someone here has both the skill *and* the : inclination to : help me out. What I have is attached and goes something like this.... Your script uses DataFabric Manager to generate the qtree data, so there are some even easier scripting things you can do to satisfy your requirements. Attached is a test-qtree.pl based on your test-qtree.sh; this perl script fetches the qtree data from DFM and generates mail with the usage is above the 85% threshold. This uses the idfile format that the awk script used. Any place where you run DFM will necessarily have perl, so this seemed like a fair replacement for the awk script. Adjust to your own requirements, of course. -- Brian Hackworth hackwort(a)netapp.com Network Appliance 408.822.6654 Sunnyvale, CA USA

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Re: Cluster licenses -- what if I break the cluster will they sti ll w ork?
by Rune Bakken 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

"Link, Bill (OTS-EDH)" <Bill_Link(a)billing.com> writes: > I guess that I don't understand licensing either. On my 840c cluster setup > the license command reports the same license string for the cluster on each > head but a different string for both nfs and snaprestore. In fact, the filer > heads were upgraded from 760's and the netapp tech didn't change the license > keys when he installed the new ones. (I just opened one of the new envelopes > this morning.) Also the strings displayed by the license command are not the > same as what is printed on the sheet supplied by netapp, probably some > encryption scheme in place here. I suspect that the licenses you see on the 840c are the old licenses from the 760. From my experience, when you upgrade a filer, new licenses are enabled although the old seems to work just fine. The only encryption of licenses I have seen is in the autosupport-mail. >>>>>>>>.rune -- Rune Bakken Senior System Administrator Telenor Business Company (Nextra), IP-Services Ph: +47 22 77 03 93

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since we're broaching the subject of qtree quota reporting.....
by Jeff Kennedy 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

I have some things that I've been working on that would make my quota monitoring much easier but I don't have the skill required to finish it. I'm hoping someone here has both the skill *and* the inclination to help me out. What I have is attached and goes something like this.... I run test-qtree.sh to get the qtree output the way I want it. It creates a file called qtreefile that has dfm's output in colon delimited form. idfile is a list of qtrees and their respective owners, e-mail name and full name; all colon delimited. I would then use the following to make this work: run test-qtree.sh then nawk -f warn.awk qtreefile idfile In theory it would look only at qtrees that are 85% full or higher, match those qtrees with the owners in idfile, and send an e-mail to that person letting them know their qtree is getting full. The warn.awk file is where all the issue lies. It has made it this far not of my own ability, but rather a gentlemen on the awk newsgroup. However, I think there may be some confusion in our communications (and I think he's getting tired of my endless questions) so I thought I'd throw it out here, to people who feel the same pain as I do and have a vested interest (hopefully) in making this work. Or something similar/better. I have left the idfile as a test file so I can change owners or add as needed, but eventually it would be tied into the qtree creation process and be automatic. Of course, this whole setup assumes dfm, but could be modified if not. So here it is... Thanks for any/all help. -- ===================== Jeff Kennedy Unix Administrator AMCC jlkennedy(a)amcc.com #FNR==NR {n = split($0,x,":"); id[x[1]] = x[2]; name[x[1]] = x[3]; next } FNR==NR { split($0,x,":"); id[x[1]] = x[2]; name[x[1]] = x[3]; next } $8>=85 { if($1 in id) { msg = "To: "name[$1] " (" id[$1] "@amcc.com)\n" msg = msg "From: DFM\n" msg = msg "Subject: " $2 " is " $8 "% full\n" msg = msg "Message:\n" msg = msg "The qtree " $2 " is at " $8 "% and may need attention." system("mail <<xxx\n" msg "xxx") } else print "Missing user " $1 } 99:assp495:filer1:sdc_designs01:6291456:0:6291456:100 417:assp420:filer1:vol0:20941820:0:20971520:100 561:assp430:filer2:oldvol1:16741308:0:16777216:100 414:essp450thpif:filer5:vol0:16723132:0:16777216:100 assp420:joe.blow:Joe Blow assp430:jsmith:Jane Smith assp495:jlkennedy:Jeff Kennedy

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RE: Brand New FC9 Shelves with 36gb or 72gb drives
by Lane, Debbie 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

Zone CheckSum a 36F disk has 34,500 MB usable space, 512 bps, Introduced with Data Ontap 6.0 Block CheckSum a 36F+ disk has 34,000 MB usable space, 520 bps, Introduced with Data Ontap 6.0.1R1, use with F700 and F800 series filers. -----Original Message----- From: Art Hebert [mailto:art@arzoon.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 6:35 PM To: 'ScottUCE(a)aol.com'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Brand New FC9 Shelves with 36gb or 72gb drives Scott -- what are ZCS and BCS? art -----Original Message----- From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:48 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: FS: Brand New FC9 Shelves with 36gb or 72gb drives Eurologic Systems, based in Dublin, Ireland, is the sole OEM supplier to Network Appliance of the FC7, FC8 and FC9 disk shelves and the companion 9gb, 18gb, 36gb and 72gb FC-AL disk drives and canisters. Following NetApp's introduction of the DS14 shelf, the NetApp-Eurologic relationship has slowly come to an end. However, significant quantities of the FC9 product that was built exclusively for NetApp but on which delivery was never taken - including both 36gb and 72gb drives (ZCS and BCS versions) - are now available for direct sale to NetApp users. The "Eurologic-direct" FC-AL disk drives differ in just two ways from the "NetApp-direct" ones: 1) the color of the drive-release buttons varies slightly from the charcoal colored buttons on the NetApp drive and 2) the color of the disk drive graphic (e.g., 36F, 72F) varies as well. We are offering brand new Eurologic FC9 product at the following prices: FC9 shelf, dual power, 7 x 36gb FC-AL drives, cabling $7,990.00 FC9 shelf, dual power, 7 x 72gb FC-AL drives, cabling $12,990.00 We would be happy to negotiate volume discounts. This product carries a THREE-YEAR Eurologic warranty. In addition, Union Computer provides free advance exchange warranty replacement as a supplement to the Eurologic warranty. Network Appliance accepts "genuine" used NetApp gear for hardware service contract; on the other hand, whether they will accept new "Eurologic-direct" product is still in question. However, we believe that the three-year Eurologic warranty with advance exchange will meet the requirements of many Netapp users. We invite you to contact us for additional details. Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com

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Scripts for checking & reporting on Qtree quotas
by Michael.Grey＠ttc.ca 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

People have reported that the attachments my original messages were being stripped off by their mail system. I have attached the files as .txt I sorry for any inconvenience caused. Regards, Michael -----Original Message----- From: Grey, Michael Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:39 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> Subject: Scripts for checking & reporting on Qtree quotas For all that have inquired about the batch scripts I have created for checking and reporting on the qtrees you will find attached the 2 batch files. The first batch calls the second one for processing. There are a few utilities that are required to use these scripts and they have been identified in the comments section of the batch file. You will have to make changes to the batch files in order to use them in your enterprise. If you have any questions or comments please let me know. In regards to the user's quota and notification scripts, I'm still working on documenting and removing any specifics to my employer in the scripts. I should have them available for release within the next week. I hope that these scripts are of some use to you all who asked for them. Also, please note that I'm not a seasoned batch programmer, I know enough to get the job done and there may be better ways of doing routines within the scripts, if so please let me know. Thanks. <<quota.txt>> <<quota2.txt>> ___________________ Michael Grey Technical Support Analyst Information Technology Services Department Toronto Transit Commission 1900 Yonge Street Toronto, Ontario M4S 1Z2 Tel. 416-393-6791 Cell 416-518-3412

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Scripts for checking & reporting on Qtree quotas
by Michael.Grey＠ttc.ca 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

For all that have inquired about the batch scripts I have created for checking and reporting on the qtrees you will find attached the 2 batch files. The first batch calls the second one for processing. There are a few utilities that are required to use these scripts and they have been identified in the comments section of the batch file. You will have to make changes to the batch files in order to use them in your enterprise. If you have any questions or comments please let me know. In regards to the user's quota and notification scripts, I'm still working on documenting and removing any specifics to my employer in the scripts. I should have them available for release within the next week. I hope that these scripts are of some use to you all who asked for them. Also, please note that I'm not a seasoned batch programmer, I know enough to get the job done and there may be better ways of doing routines within the scripts, if so please let me know. Thanks. <<quota.bat>> <<quota2.bat>> ___________________ Michael Grey Technical Support Analyst Information Technology Services Department Toronto Transit Commission 1900 Yonge Street Toronto, Ontario M4S 1Z2 Tel. 416-393-6791 Cell 416-518-3412

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RE: Brand New FC9 Shelves with 36gb or 72gb drives
by Steve Roche 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

I believe there is a third difference as well. Eurologic does not provide the applicable Netapp firmware revisions for the drives. This means you are using uncertified third party product to store your companies information. Good luck when your filer blows up and you try to open a case with Netapp using UCE supplied drives. Didn't we just have a short session on spam?????? -----Original Message----- From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:48 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: FS: Brand New FC9 Shelves with 36gb or 72gb drives Eurologic Systems, based in Dublin, Ireland, is the sole OEM supplier to Network Appliance of the FC7, FC8 and FC9 disk shelves and the companion 9gb, 18gb, 36gb and 72gb FC-AL disk drives and canisters. Following NetApp's introduction of the DS14 shelf, the NetApp-Eurologic relationship has slowly come to an end. However, significant quantities of the FC9 product that was built exclusively for NetApp but on which delivery was never taken - including both 36gb and 72gb drives (ZCS and BCS versions) - are now available for direct sale to NetApp users. The "Eurologic-direct" FC-AL disk drives differ in just two ways from the "NetApp-direct" ones: 1) the color of the drive-release buttons varies slightly from the charcoal colored buttons on the NetApp drive and 2) the color of the disk drive graphic (e.g., 36F, 72F) varies as well. We are offering brand new Eurologic FC9 product at the following prices: FC9 shelf, dual power, 7 x 36gb FC-AL drives, cabling $7,990.00 FC9 shelf, dual power, 7 x 72gb FC-AL drives, cabling $12,990.00 We would be happy to negotiate volume discounts. This product carries a THREE-YEAR Eurologic warranty. In addition, Union Computer provides free advance exchange warranty replacement as a supplement to the Eurologic warranty. Network Appliance accepts "genuine" used NetApp gear for hardware service contract; on the other hand, whether they will accept new "Eurologic-direct" product is still in question. However, we believe that the three-year Eurologic warranty with advance exchange will meet the requirements of many Netapp users. We invite you to contact us for additional details. Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com

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Problems with quotas and statvfs() in ONTAP 6.2
by Chris Thompson 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

I have been experimenting with ONTAP 6.2 (FCS), and run across a couple of [circumventable] problems I thought might be worth reporting to the list, in case anyone else was planning to upgrade at Easter... The context is NFS access and client machines are Solaris 8 (although I would expect to see something similar for other Unix clients). 1. If you let the soft quotas for a per-user quota in /etc/quotas default, or specify them as "-", then the rquota RPC returns the values 4194300 KB (= 4GB-4KB) for the soft blocks limit, and -1 for the soft files limit. In previous releases these were always returned equal to the corresponding hard limits. 2. If you have a per-tree quota with a limit of "-" (i.e. only for reporting) and a mount point within that qtree, "df -k" (i.e. statvfs()) now reports the size of the filing system as equal to its actual usage, so it always appears 100% full. Previously the size was reported as the total size of the volume less the actual usage of other qtrees. Neither of these stop files being allocated and extended. However there are paranoid programs around that won't even try to write a file if they believe the filing system is full, and so fail. [Solaris 8 ed(1) seems to be one such. Don't ask me who was using ed ... it wasn't me!] Also, the outputs of "quota -v" and "df -k" are of course confusing to the end-user. The workrounds are easy if inelegant: (1) set the soft limits explicitly equal to the hard limits for all per-user quotas, & (2) use super-large numbers instead of "-" for the limits on per-tree quotas. Chris Thompson Email: cet1(a)cam.ac.uk

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RE: Cluster licenses -- what if I break the cluster will they sti ll w ork?
by Link, Bill (OTS-EDH) 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

I guess that I don't understand licensing either. On my 840c cluster setup the license command reports the same license string for the cluster on each head but a different string for both nfs and snaprestore. In fact, the filer heads were upgraded from 760's and the netapp tech didn't change the license keys when he installed the new ones. (I just opened one of the new envelopes this morning.) Also the strings displayed by the license command are not the same as what is printed on the sheet supplied by netapp, probably some encryption scheme in place here. Bill Link SysAdmin bill_link(a)dstoutput.com -----Original Message----- From: Art Hebert [mailto:art@arzoon.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 6:32 PM To: 'kevin graham' Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Cluster licenses -- what if I break the cluster will they sti ll w ork? I thought the license keys were different for every machine. Are you saying I can use the license key for one machine on another. Aren't they tied to serialnumbers? I didn't setup the netapps so not sure if they just used one set for each head in the cluster. My other cluster has a different license (though both heads of that cluster have the same license). Anybody else out there with a cluster, what does is listed when you run license on each head? I figure we will get a 15% improvement in performance if I break the heads. How much performance improvement have people seen when they have moved from 100mb to gig? art -----Original Message----- From: kevin graham [mailto:kgraham@dotnetdotcom.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:44 PM To: Art Hebert Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Cluster licenses -- what if I break the cluster will they still w ork? > I have a Netapp F760 cluster that I may want to seperate for > performance reasons. Keep in mind you won't gain that much. You'll double the write cache, but that's about it. If you need more disk bandwidth, toy w/ 3rd party adapters -- it'd be too easy compared w/ losing clustering. > I noticed they have the same license when I run the license command. This is undoubtedly an error -- cluster partners are issued their own licenses (except cluster license... can't remember there) -- someone probably didn't bother looking for the other sheet of license keys. > Will they both continue to work seperately if I disconnect the cluster > connections? Should work fine, though you probably should open a support case to see if someone can dig up the proper license keys for you to avoid trouble in the future. ..kg.. Notice: This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the individual or company to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential and prohibited from disclosure or unauthorized use under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or copying of this e-mail or the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited by the sender. If you have received this transmission in error, please return the material received to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Thank you.

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Problems with SecureShare Quota Manager 2.0
by Jacek Nogala 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

Does anyone have any experience with SSQM 2.0 in Windows only environment? I had to install it for evaluation tests and it acts very strangely for me: SecureShare Quota Manager 2.0 was installed on Windows NT4/SP6a computer. Filer was running DOT 6.1.1R2 and was configured as Windows only. No user account migration was done (in accordance to NOW Knowledgebase it is not required). The following problems were observed: - There seems to be no way to define if quota is of user or tree type. Result of using Default Quota Setting seemed to be random: most of the time it generated "user" default quota but sometimes "tree" type quota. Type of default quota seemed to be somewhat related to restarting SSQM application. - In those seldom times when it generated "tree" default quota it also allowed to create of default "tree" quota for qtree that caused quota system to stop (/etc/quotas could not be interpreted by quota system): * tree@/vol/SQL 100M - * tree@/vol/SQL/test 100G - Is it possible to manage tree type quotas using SecureShare Quota Manager 2.0? If so: How user can define tree quota (default and specific) for qtree? Is it posible to define with SSQM 2.0 in the same time default user quota and tree quota for different targets? How to do it? Best regards, Jacek Nogala ***************************************************** Jacek Nogala tel: +48 (22) 607-04-53 Inzynier Systemowy kom: +48 605 67-22-12 NetApp Filer CA e-mail: J.Nogala(a)dimax.pl Dimax Polska Sp. z o.o. ul. Marynarska 19A 02-674 Warszawa *****************************************************

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sysstat
by neil lehrer 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

how much load does sysstat cause? does the tool cause load by itself? one second interval ontap 6.1.1r2 thanks -- regards

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RE: Cluster licenses -- what if I break the cluster will they sti ll w ork?
by Art Hebert 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

I thought the license keys were different for every machine. Are you saying I can use the license key for one machine on another. Aren't they tied to serialnumbers? I didn't setup the netapps so not sure if they just used one set for each head in the cluster. My other cluster has a different license (though both heads of that cluster have the same license). Anybody else out there with a cluster, what does is listed when you run license on each head? I figure we will get a 15% improvement in performance if I break the heads. How much performance improvement have people seen when they have moved from 100mb to gig? art -----Original Message----- From: kevin graham [mailto:kgraham@dotnetdotcom.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:44 PM To: Art Hebert Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Re: Cluster licenses -- what if I break the cluster will they still w ork? > I have a Netapp F760 cluster that I may want to seperate for > performance reasons. Keep in mind you won't gain that much. You'll double the write cache, but that's about it. If you need more disk bandwidth, toy w/ 3rd party adapters -- it'd be too easy compared w/ losing clustering. > I noticed they have the same license when I run the license command. This is undoubtedly an error -- cluster partners are issued their own licenses (except cluster license... can't remember there) -- someone probably didn't bother looking for the other sheet of license keys. > Will they both continue to work seperately if I disconnect the cluster > connections? Should work fine, though you probably should open a support case to see if someone can dig up the proper license keys for you to avoid trouble in the future. ..kg..

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RE: Brand New FC9 Shelves with 36gb or 72gb drives
by Art Hebert 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

Scott -- what are ZCS and BCS? art -----Original Message----- From: ScottUCE(a)aol.com [mailto:ScottUCE@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 4:48 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: FS: Brand New FC9 Shelves with 36gb or 72gb drives Eurologic Systems, based in Dublin, Ireland, is the sole OEM supplier to Network Appliance of the FC7, FC8 and FC9 disk shelves and the companion 9gb, 18gb, 36gb and 72gb FC-AL disk drives and canisters. Following NetApp's introduction of the DS14 shelf, the NetApp-Eurologic relationship has slowly come to an end. However, significant quantities of the FC9 product that was built exclusively for NetApp but on which delivery was never taken - including both 36gb and 72gb drives (ZCS and BCS versions) - are now available for direct sale to NetApp users. The "Eurologic-direct" FC-AL disk drives differ in just two ways from the "NetApp-direct" ones: 1) the color of the drive-release buttons varies slightly from the charcoal colored buttons on the NetApp drive and 2) the color of the disk drive graphic (e.g., 36F, 72F) varies as well. We are offering brand new Eurologic FC9 product at the following prices: FC9 shelf, dual power, 7 x 36gb FC-AL drives, cabling $7,990.00 FC9 shelf, dual power, 7 x 72gb FC-AL drives, cabling $12,990.00 We would be happy to negotiate volume discounts. This product carries a THREE-YEAR Eurologic warranty. In addition, Union Computer provides free advance exchange warranty replacement as a supplement to the Eurologic warranty. Network Appliance accepts "genuine" used NetApp gear for hardware service contract; on the other hand, whether they will accept new "Eurologic-direct" product is still in question. However, we believe that the three-year Eurologic warranty with advance exchange will meet the requirements of many Netapp users. We invite you to contact us for additional details. Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com

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FS: Brand New FC9 Shelves with 36gb or 72gb drives
by ScottUCE＠aol.com 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

Eurologic Systems, based in Dublin, Ireland, is the sole OEM supplier to Network Appliance of the FC7, FC8 and FC9 disk shelves and the companion 9gb, 18gb, 36gb and 72gb FC-AL disk drives and canisters. Following NetApp's introduction of the DS14 shelf, the NetApp-Eurologic relationship has slowly come to an end. However, significant quantities of the FC9 product that was built exclusively for NetApp but on which delivery was never taken - including both 36gb and 72gb drives (ZCS and BCS versions) - are now available for direct sale to NetApp users. The "Eurologic-direct" FC-AL disk drives differ in just two ways from the "NetApp-direct" ones: 1) the color of the drive-release buttons varies slightly from the charcoal colored buttons on the NetApp drive and 2) the color of the disk drive graphic (e.g., 36F, 72F) varies as well. We are offering brand new Eurologic FC9 product at the following prices: FC9 shelf, dual power, 7 x 36gb FC-AL drives, cabling $7,990.00 FC9 shelf, dual power, 7 x 72gb FC-AL drives, cabling $12,990.00 We would be happy to negotiate volume discounts. This product carries a THREE-YEAR Eurologic warranty. In addition, Union Computer provides free advance exchange warranty replacement as a supplement to the Eurologic warranty. Network Appliance accepts "genuine" used NetApp gear for hardware service contract; on the other hand, whether they will accept new "Eurologic-direct" product is still in question. However, we believe that the three-year Eurologic warranty with advance exchange will meet the requirements of many Netapp users. We invite you to contact us for additional details. Scott Fischmann Union Computer Exchange, Inc. 6233 Idylwood Lane Minneapolis, MN 55436 Phone: 952 935 7282 FAX: 952 935 5056 scott(a)unioncomputer.com

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Cluster licenses -- what if I break the cluster will they still w ork?
by Art Hebert 27 Mar '02

27 Mar '02

I have a Netapp F760 cluster that I may want to seperate for performance reasons. I noticed they have the same license when I run the license command. Will they both continue to work seperately if I disconnect the cluster connections? Thanks art

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NOW inaccessible?
by Mike Sphar 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Is it just me, or has NOW been down most of the day? I've been trying all day to get through and can't. Traceroute just stops at pos1-ext.netapp.com . -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Peregrine Systems, Inc.

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Spam
by Bokkelkamp Ernst 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

I hate to say this, but I am considering leaving the list. I have been silently in the background for a long time because of not having a toy, I mean filer, to play with but it looks that the mailing list is currently being abused. I already have one yahoo account blocked, but it becomes a bit more difficult with the latest message from Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer). Bye Ernie Here is the header: Received: from mail1.siemens.de ([139.23.33.14]) by mchx07da.mchm.siemens.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HM60G0V3; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:21 +0100 Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8KW03511 for <Ernst.Bokkelkamp(a)mch10.sbs.de>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8JR08728 for <Ernst.Bokkelkamp(a)mch10.sbs.de>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.mathworks.com (turing.mathworks.com [144.212.95.101]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGoh104179; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g2QGcvH26842; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2QGct526827 for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mathworks.com (scanner.mathworks.com [144.212.95.161]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcs101506 for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (ns.uk.mathworks.com [192.168.72.250]) by smtp.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcqp01491 for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from petter ([218.5.139.13]) by hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2QGcmP23867 for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:38:49 GMT Message-Id: <200203261638.g2QGcmP23867(a)hadrian.uk.mathworks.com> From: mike (Manufacturer of shoes) <5626512(a)963.net> Reply-To: r-start(a)163.com Subject: Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:20:45 +0800 X-Mailer: 007 Direct Email Easy Sender: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com Precedence: bulk

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Re: SNMP Failure Detection
by Alek O. Komarnitsky (N-CSC) 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

> From owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com Tue Mar 26 12:14 MST 2002 > > Hello Toasters. > > I've been using a script to monitor disk failures on our filers. It's worked pretty well in the past, but I've hit a snag today... > > Normally I can tell if a disk has failed in one of two ways: > 1) Check the SNMP "disks.failed" value, if !eq 1, we've got a problem. > 2) Check via SNMP, the total number of disks, then check the number of active disks, and add to it the number of spare disks. If total disks !eq to active plus spare disk, then there is a failure. Have you thought about using syslog and triggering on an event? As Jay's Email implied, we forward syslog (and auditlog) events to our loghosts and do misc. processing on them using Swatch, with auto-notification of "interesting" events. I don't know if the specific issue you had triggered a syslog event, but you might check your logs to see if something was there. Just a thought, alek

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New better, quicker cheaper version of Bit Shark Coming Soon!
by Ken Belanger 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

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Re: SNMP Failure Detection
by Rune Bakken 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Don Cunningham <donc(a)bedford.progress.com> writes: > This could be related to a similar situation we saw recently with a > failed disk. We don't use SNMP but the filer email notification facility. > Anyway, a disk failed and was subsequently removed by the OS and didn't > generate an email. So essentially the system didn't know that the disk > ever existed - similar to what you describe. I placed a call to NetApp > and they said this shouldn't ever happen(the OS automatically removing > a failed disk) and that it is a bug that will be fixed in a later release. > Check your system log for a disk failure message followed immediately > by a removal message for the failed disk. If it's there then you've > probably got the bug. Hmm, this seems to happen almost as often as not -- I am fairly aggressive on upgrading, due to obscure problems with SAN Backup, so I suspect that the bug has not yet been corrected. (I was told earlier this year that it was an unpublished bug) When it comes to the script mentioned earlier, I would suggest that the script somehow stores the value from the prevous run, and then report an error if the number decreases - that is at least what I am planning to do Real Soon Now(tm). >>>>>>>>>>>>.rune -- Rune Bakken Senior System Administrator Telenor Business Company (Nextra), IP-Services Ph: +47 22 77 03 93

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RE: Spam
by Knight, Jason 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

> Otherwise, I will have to remove my address also. Me too, in case anyone is counting votes. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Marsh [mailto:edmarsh@ti.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:45 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Spam Ernest, Thanks for taking the time to look at the headers. I have received several spam messages today, so I have gone back to look at the source. All but one came through this list. I suggest that this list be restricted to only members in order to eliminate the spam. Otherwise, I will have to remove my address also. -Ed Bokkelkamp Ernst wrote: > I hate to say this, but I am considering leaving the list. I have been > silently in the background for a long time because of not having a > toy, I mean filer, to play with but it looks that the mailing list is > currently being abused. I already have one yahoo account blocked, but > it becomes a bit more difficult with the latest message from Jinjiang > Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer). > > Bye > Ernie > > Here is the header: > > Received: from mail1.siemens.de ([139.23.33.14]) by > mchx07da.mchm.siemens.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) > id HM60G0V3; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:21 +0100 > Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) > by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8KW03511 > for <Ernst.Bokkelkamp(a)mch10.sbs.de>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:20 > +0100 > (MET) > Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) > by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8JR08728 > for <Ernst.Bokkelkamp(a)mch10.sbs.de>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:19 +0100 > (MET) > Received: from mail.mathworks.com (turing.mathworks.com [144.212.95.101]) > by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGoh104179; > Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:50:43 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g2QGcvH26842; > Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:57 -0500 (EST) > Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) > by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2QGct526827 > for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:56 -0500 (EST) > Received: from smtp.mathworks.com (scanner.mathworks.com [144.212.95.161]) > by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcs101506 > for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:54 -0500 (EST) > Received: from hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (ns.uk.mathworks.com > [192.168.72.250]) > by smtp.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcqp01491 > for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:52 -0500 (EST) > Received: from petter ([218.5.139.13]) > by hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id > g2QGcmP23867 > for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:38:49 GMT > Message-Id: <200203261638.g2QGcmP23867(a)hadrian.uk.mathworks.com> > From: mike (Manufacturer of shoes) <5626512(a)963.net> > Reply-To: r-start(a)163.com > Subject: Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer) > Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:20:45 +0800 > X-Mailer: 007 Direct Email Easy > Sender: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > Precedence: bulk

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RE: Toasters - How can one forward auditlog events to syslog
by Perry, Jay 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

A while back, Alek asked if there was a way to forward auditlog events to a syslog. Since that time, we (Alek and I) have come up with a solution that is available on the NOW website as a Knowledgebase solution titled "How do I forward audit log messages to a syslog log host?" (solution ID ntapcs5526). For those that don't have NOW access, I am posting it here as well. Alek has had this in production for a while now (about a month), and as far as I know it is working out OK (although it required some new filtering, as the auditlog messages are much more verbose than the syslog messages - multiple lines and so forth). To set this up, you must modify the syslog.conf file on the loghost and the /etc/syslog.conf file on the filer or NetCache appliance that is the source of the messages. (For more information about the filer's syslog.conf file, see the respective Data ONTAP man page). Here are detailed steps: 1) On the log host, modify syslog.conf as follows: Add a line: local7.*[one_or_more_tabs][path_to_log_file] Basically, the auditlog messages will arrive as facility local7. 2) Make sure that any selectors of the form *.<level> get changed to *.<level>;local7.none. Otherwise those selectors will receive all of the audit log messages as well. 3) After completing your changes to syslog.conf on the log host, force the syslog daemon to reload its configuration file (on many systems this will involve sending a HUP signal to a process called syslogd). Refer to your log host's OS manuals for details on how this is done for your particular OS. 4) Modify the filer's /etc/syslog.conf file as follows: Add a line: cmdsaudit.auditlog[one_or_more_tabs]@[loghost_ip_or_name] The filer will automatically detect the change to syslog.conf and load it. This may take a couple of minutes though. You will know the change took place because a syslog message will appear that looks like: Wed Feb 20 21:58:52 GMT [syslogd:info]: syslogd: restarted It is worth noting that audit log messages are much more verbose than syslog messages. A typical syslog entry is a single line. A typical audit log entry looks like: date [method of access] :START:command incoming hostname date [method of access] :IN:command "input" command being sent to filer date [method of access] :OUT: output from command (may be multiple lines) date [method of access] :END:command Hope you find this useful, and thanks to Alek for helping out with this! Jay Perry jay.perry(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Alek O. Komarnitsky (N-CSC) [mailto:alek@ast.lmco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:08 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Toasters - How can one forward auditlog events to syslog > > > I've searched the archives for the answer to this question > and searched > with Google, but have not found it ... yet! ;-) > > We use syslog quite a bit to log stuff remotely, but there are > certain events (such as root rsh activity) that are logged into > auditlog that do NOT show up in syslog - we are logging *.info. > > Is there a way to get those events also sent to syslog > so that we can use what is defined in /etc/syslog.conf to > forward those events to our loghosts? > > Thanx, > alek >

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Re: SNMP Failure Detection
by Don Cunningham 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

This could be related to a similar situation we saw recently with a failed disk. We don't use SNMP but the filer email notification facility. Anyway, a disk failed and was subsequently removed by the OS and didn't generate an email. So essentially the system didn't know that the disk ever existed - similar to what you describe. I placed a call to NetApp and they said this shouldn't ever happen(the OS automatically removing a failed disk) and that it is a bug that will be fixed in a later release. Check your system log for a disk failure message followed immediately by a removal message for the failed disk. If it's there then you've probably got the bug. Regards, _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Don Cunningham - UNIX SysAdmin _/ Progress Software Corp. _/ _/ don.cunningham(a)progress.com _/ 14 Oak Park _/ _/ (781)280-4252 _/ Bedford, MA 01730-1485 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ "Wherever beer is brewed, all is well - whenever beer is _/ _/ drunk, life is good." -Czech proverb _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > > Hello Toasters. > > I've been using a script to monitor disk failures on our filers. It's worked pretty well in the past, but I've hit a snag today... > > Normally I can tell if a disk has failed in one of two ways: > 1) Check the SNMP "disks.failed" value, if !eq 1, we've got a problem. > 2) Check via SNMP, the total number of disks, then check the number of active disks, and add to it the number of spare disks. If total disks !eq to active plus spare disk, then there is a failure. > > The second method is often needed for the failures that "slip through the cracks", and is sufficent. However today a disk failed and in doing so was removed from the TOTAL disk count, and not added as a failed disk, so in a case where I have 84 disks, I get the following output from my script: > > The global message is: "The system's global status is normal. " > Total disk count is: 83 > The Active Disk Count is: 82 > The Spare Disk Count is: 1 > The Failed Disk Count is: 0 > > > I've omitted the non-relevent output from my script, which does simple snmpget's from the Net-SNMP app. Anyway, three things went wrong here, > the global message doesn't reflect a failure. The total disk count was decremented when it should not have and the failed disk count is still eq to zero. > Now, because I know that all our filers should always have 2 spare disks I can rewrite my scripts to look for this, however I had previously written them in a very portable way, which hardcoding the number of spares to look for will degridate... > > Any ideas why this happens? I'm sure I'm not the only one who's seen this. > > Ben Rockwood > brockwood(a)homestead-inc.com

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Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer)
by mike 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

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