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NOW inaccessible?
by Mike Sphar 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Is it just me, or has NOW been down most of the day? I've been trying all day to get through and can't. Traceroute just stops at pos1-ext.netapp.com . -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Peregrine Systems, Inc.

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Spam
by Bokkelkamp Ernst 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

I hate to say this, but I am considering leaving the list. I have been silently in the background for a long time because of not having a toy, I mean filer, to play with but it looks that the mailing list is currently being abused. I already have one yahoo account blocked, but it becomes a bit more difficult with the latest message from Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer). Bye Ernie Here is the header: Received: from mail1.siemens.de ([139.23.33.14]) by mchx07da.mchm.siemens.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HM60G0V3; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:21 +0100 Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8KW03511 for <Ernst.Bokkelkamp(a)mch10.sbs.de>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8JR08728 for <Ernst.Bokkelkamp(a)mch10.sbs.de>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.mathworks.com (turing.mathworks.com [144.212.95.101]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGoh104179; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g2QGcvH26842; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2QGct526827 for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.mathworks.com (scanner.mathworks.com [144.212.95.161]) by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcs101506 for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (ns.uk.mathworks.com [192.168.72.250]) by smtp.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcqp01491 for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from petter ([218.5.139.13]) by hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2QGcmP23867 for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:38:49 GMT Message-Id: <200203261638.g2QGcmP23867(a)hadrian.uk.mathworks.com> From: mike (Manufacturer of shoes) <5626512(a)963.net> Reply-To: r-start(a)163.com Subject: Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:20:45 +0800 X-Mailer: 007 Direct Email Easy Sender: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com Precedence: bulk

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Re: SNMP Failure Detection
by Alek O. Komarnitsky (N-CSC) 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

> From owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com Tue Mar 26 12:14 MST 2002 > > Hello Toasters. > > I've been using a script to monitor disk failures on our filers. It's worked pretty well in the past, but I've hit a snag today... > > Normally I can tell if a disk has failed in one of two ways: > 1) Check the SNMP "disks.failed" value, if !eq 1, we've got a problem. > 2) Check via SNMP, the total number of disks, then check the number of active disks, and add to it the number of spare disks. If total disks !eq to active plus spare disk, then there is a failure. Have you thought about using syslog and triggering on an event? As Jay's Email implied, we forward syslog (and auditlog) events to our loghosts and do misc. processing on them using Swatch, with auto-notification of "interesting" events. I don't know if the specific issue you had triggered a syslog event, but you might check your logs to see if something was there. Just a thought, alek

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by Ken Belanger 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

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Re: SNMP Failure Detection
by Rune Bakken 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Don Cunningham <donc(a)bedford.progress.com> writes: > This could be related to a similar situation we saw recently with a > failed disk. We don't use SNMP but the filer email notification facility. > Anyway, a disk failed and was subsequently removed by the OS and didn't > generate an email. So essentially the system didn't know that the disk > ever existed - similar to what you describe. I placed a call to NetApp > and they said this shouldn't ever happen(the OS automatically removing > a failed disk) and that it is a bug that will be fixed in a later release. > Check your system log for a disk failure message followed immediately > by a removal message for the failed disk. If it's there then you've > probably got the bug. Hmm, this seems to happen almost as often as not -- I am fairly aggressive on upgrading, due to obscure problems with SAN Backup, so I suspect that the bug has not yet been corrected. (I was told earlier this year that it was an unpublished bug) When it comes to the script mentioned earlier, I would suggest that the script somehow stores the value from the prevous run, and then report an error if the number decreases - that is at least what I am planning to do Real Soon Now(tm). >>>>>>>>>>>>.rune -- Rune Bakken Senior System Administrator Telenor Business Company (Nextra), IP-Services Ph: +47 22 77 03 93

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RE: Spam
by Knight, Jason 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

> Otherwise, I will have to remove my address also. Me too, in case anyone is counting votes. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Marsh [mailto:edmarsh@ti.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:45 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Spam Ernest, Thanks for taking the time to look at the headers. I have received several spam messages today, so I have gone back to look at the source. All but one came through this list. I suggest that this list be restricted to only members in order to eliminate the spam. Otherwise, I will have to remove my address also. -Ed Bokkelkamp Ernst wrote: > I hate to say this, but I am considering leaving the list. I have been > silently in the background for a long time because of not having a > toy, I mean filer, to play with but it looks that the mailing list is > currently being abused. I already have one yahoo account blocked, but > it becomes a bit more difficult with the latest message from Jinjiang > Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer). > > Bye > Ernie > > Here is the header: > > Received: from mail1.siemens.de ([139.23.33.14]) by > mchx07da.mchm.siemens.de with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) > id HM60G0V3; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:21 +0100 > Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) > by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8KW03511 > for <Ernst.Bokkelkamp(a)mch10.sbs.de>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:20 > +0100 > (MET) > Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) > by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QH8JR08728 > for <Ernst.Bokkelkamp(a)mch10.sbs.de>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:08:19 +0100 > (MET) > Received: from mail.mathworks.com (turing.mathworks.com [144.212.95.101]) > by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGoh104179; > Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:50:43 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g2QGcvH26842; > Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:57 -0500 (EST) > Received: from smtp2.mathworks.com (smtp.mathworks.com [144.212.95.12]) > by mail.mathworks.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2QGct526827 > for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:56 -0500 (EST) > Received: from smtp.mathworks.com (scanner.mathworks.com [144.212.95.161]) > by smtp2.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcs101506 > for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:54 -0500 (EST) > Received: from hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (ns.uk.mathworks.com > [192.168.72.250]) > by smtp.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QGcqp01491 > for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:38:52 -0500 (EST) > Received: from petter ([218.5.139.13]) > by hadrian.uk.mathworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id > g2QGcmP23867 > for <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:38:49 GMT > Message-Id: <200203261638.g2QGcmP23867(a)hadrian.uk.mathworks.com> > From: mike (Manufacturer of shoes) <5626512(a)963.net> > Reply-To: r-start(a)163.com > Subject: Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer) > Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:20:45 +0800 > X-Mailer: 007 Direct Email Easy > Sender: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > Precedence: bulk

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RE: Toasters - How can one forward auditlog events to syslog
by Perry, Jay 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

A while back, Alek asked if there was a way to forward auditlog events to a syslog. Since that time, we (Alek and I) have come up with a solution that is available on the NOW website as a Knowledgebase solution titled "How do I forward audit log messages to a syslog log host?" (solution ID ntapcs5526). For those that don't have NOW access, I am posting it here as well. Alek has had this in production for a while now (about a month), and as far as I know it is working out OK (although it required some new filtering, as the auditlog messages are much more verbose than the syslog messages - multiple lines and so forth). To set this up, you must modify the syslog.conf file on the loghost and the /etc/syslog.conf file on the filer or NetCache appliance that is the source of the messages. (For more information about the filer's syslog.conf file, see the respective Data ONTAP man page). Here are detailed steps: 1) On the log host, modify syslog.conf as follows: Add a line: local7.*[one_or_more_tabs][path_to_log_file] Basically, the auditlog messages will arrive as facility local7. 2) Make sure that any selectors of the form *.<level> get changed to *.<level>;local7.none. Otherwise those selectors will receive all of the audit log messages as well. 3) After completing your changes to syslog.conf on the log host, force the syslog daemon to reload its configuration file (on many systems this will involve sending a HUP signal to a process called syslogd). Refer to your log host's OS manuals for details on how this is done for your particular OS. 4) Modify the filer's /etc/syslog.conf file as follows: Add a line: cmdsaudit.auditlog[one_or_more_tabs]@[loghost_ip_or_name] The filer will automatically detect the change to syslog.conf and load it. This may take a couple of minutes though. You will know the change took place because a syslog message will appear that looks like: Wed Feb 20 21:58:52 GMT [syslogd:info]: syslogd: restarted It is worth noting that audit log messages are much more verbose than syslog messages. A typical syslog entry is a single line. A typical audit log entry looks like: date [method of access] :START:command incoming hostname date [method of access] :IN:command "input" command being sent to filer date [method of access] :OUT: output from command (may be multiple lines) date [method of access] :END:command Hope you find this useful, and thanks to Alek for helping out with this! Jay Perry jay.perry(a)netapp.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Alek O. Komarnitsky (N-CSC) [mailto:alek@ast.lmco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:08 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Toasters - How can one forward auditlog events to syslog > > > I've searched the archives for the answer to this question > and searched > with Google, but have not found it ... yet! ;-) > > We use syslog quite a bit to log stuff remotely, but there are > certain events (such as root rsh activity) that are logged into > auditlog that do NOT show up in syslog - we are logging *.info. > > Is there a way to get those events also sent to syslog > so that we can use what is defined in /etc/syslog.conf to > forward those events to our loghosts? > > Thanx, > alek >

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Re: SNMP Failure Detection
by Don Cunningham 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

This could be related to a similar situation we saw recently with a failed disk. We don't use SNMP but the filer email notification facility. Anyway, a disk failed and was subsequently removed by the OS and didn't generate an email. So essentially the system didn't know that the disk ever existed - similar to what you describe. I placed a call to NetApp and they said this shouldn't ever happen(the OS automatically removing a failed disk) and that it is a bug that will be fixed in a later release. Check your system log for a disk failure message followed immediately by a removal message for the failed disk. If it's there then you've probably got the bug. Regards, _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Don Cunningham - UNIX SysAdmin _/ Progress Software Corp. _/ _/ don.cunningham(a)progress.com _/ 14 Oak Park _/ _/ (781)280-4252 _/ Bedford, MA 01730-1485 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ "Wherever beer is brewed, all is well - whenever beer is _/ _/ drunk, life is good." -Czech proverb _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > > Hello Toasters. > > I've been using a script to monitor disk failures on our filers. It's worked pretty well in the past, but I've hit a snag today... > > Normally I can tell if a disk has failed in one of two ways: > 1) Check the SNMP "disks.failed" value, if !eq 1, we've got a problem. > 2) Check via SNMP, the total number of disks, then check the number of active disks, and add to it the number of spare disks. If total disks !eq to active plus spare disk, then there is a failure. > > The second method is often needed for the failures that "slip through the cracks", and is sufficent. However today a disk failed and in doing so was removed from the TOTAL disk count, and not added as a failed disk, so in a case where I have 84 disks, I get the following output from my script: > > The global message is: "The system's global status is normal. " > Total disk count is: 83 > The Active Disk Count is: 82 > The Spare Disk Count is: 1 > The Failed Disk Count is: 0 > > > I've omitted the non-relevent output from my script, which does simple snmpget's from the Net-SNMP app. Anyway, three things went wrong here, > the global message doesn't reflect a failure. The total disk count was decremented when it should not have and the failed disk count is still eq to zero. > Now, because I know that all our filers should always have 2 spare disks I can rewrite my scripts to look for this, however I had previously written them in a very portable way, which hardcoding the number of spares to look for will degridate... > > Any ideas why this happens? I'm sure I'm not the only one who's seen this. > > Ben Rockwood > brockwood(a)homestead-inc.com

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Jinjiang Shengyi Shoes Co., Ltd. (Manufcturer)
by mike 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

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ADV-get ya gamble on!
by Rocco 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

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limit read and write block sizes
by Jim Harm 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

We have very bad read times when using default rsize/wsize. There was some discussion about using smaller values. Can someone summarize why and what size to use? I thought it was a router or switch bug that was to be fixed. -- }}}===============>> LLNL James E. Harm (Jim); jharm(a)llnl.gov System Administrator Compaq Clusters (925) 422-4018 Page: 423-7705x57152

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RE: mrtg and filers
by jwitham＠takedapharm.com 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Depends mostly on what platform you want to run MRTG on.. Win32 or *nix. I've monitored the filers on both platforms, and had a much better run of setting it up on NT. Luckily (for me) you don't have to be an SNMP God to make MRTG work, you only really need to worry about the configuration files. The NOW site has some docs, but perhaps Mr. Ortega could share some of his .conf files as they appear to be quite flawless ;) John Witham Sr. Data Networking Engineer Takeda Pharmaceuticals North America, Inc. e://jwitham@takedapharm.com -----Original Message----- From: neil lehrer [mailto:nlehrer@ibb.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:02 PM To: toasters Subject: mrtg and filers hi, are there any docs around that discuss using mrtg with filers? i would like to monitor my filers, but am not snmp conversant. -- regards This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.

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RE: mrtg and filers
by Manny Ortega 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

Yes... Just download the zip file from: http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtool/mrtg/pub And follow the instructions... rateup.exe is part of the whole deal... -----Original Message----- From: neil lehrer [mailto:nlehrer@ibb.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:27 PM To: Manny Ortega; 'jwitham(a)takedapharm.com' Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: mrtg and filers thanks. i heard something about a rateup executable that is used. is that available|necessary for a winnt environment? -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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refurbish filers
by Ali Maula Ali Mauli Ali DamDam 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

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25 Mar '02

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HP LTO
by Pramod S 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hi , I have an 880C running 6.1.1R2. I have an M1500 from Quantum with HP Ultrium LTO Drives. Since HP LTO is non-qualified, I have made an Entry in the /etc/cloned_tapes. But even after that, i still get an "non-qualified " when I run the sysconfig -t. If I do an mt -f <device> status, and then run the sysconfig -t command, it shows the devices correctly. But this lasts till I reboot the filer. After reboot I have to again do an mt -f <device> status, to see all the devices in sysconfig -t output. My /etc/cloned_tapes entry is HP Ultrium_1-SCSI EMULATES IBM ULTRIUM-TD1 Any suggestion on why this is happening?? Thanks, Pramod

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RE: R100 Price?
by 張自光 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

After discuss with my manager, I found I misunderstand the market placement of the NearStore R100. And, the performance is very good and well worth the price. You are right, Joe. $0.03~0.02 per MB is too good to be true with the NearStore performance. Therefore, I hereby retract all my opinions and criticisms. Allen TK. Chang Syscape Tech. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Luchtenberg Sent: 2002/3/22 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> Cc: Subject: RE: R100 Price? No error. Note that this price is for 12TB raw (that's the cost to get into the NearStore dance). Well under $0.03 per raw MB (NetApp promotional materials cite $0.02, but I think that's just for the h/w - list price is $275K for the base 12TB system). That's a whole bunch less than a filer -- an F840c or F880c at 12TB will run you 2.5-3x more, and multiple smaller filers even more than that. Of course, the NearStore isn't meant to replace production filers. You're right to make the comparison to other nearline storage devices, and that's where NetApp has to sell its value proposition. I.e. integration with other filers (SnapMirror, SnapVault, SnapRestore), snapshot technology, no latency (compared to libraries w/ media pickers), universal access, better reliability, etc... Other disk-based nearline products are rushing to market now, too. Some are simply repackaged low-end NAS being repositioned to grab some market share. Others may be real players. However, I don't think there's another vendor going this aggressively into the nearline market space that has the comprehensive solution and integration across the enterprise that you can get with NetApp, though. Of course I'm a little biased, since I make some of my living selling these things. :-] Joe Joe Luchtenberg Dataline, Inc. Email: joe.luchtenberg(a)data-line.com Phone: 757-457-0504 (direct line) 757-858-0600 (front desk) 757-285-1223 (mobile) Fax: 757-858-0606 Please visit us at www.data-line.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Allen_Chang(a)syscape.com.tw [ mailto:Allen_Chang@syscape.com.tw] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:51 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: R100 Price? > > > > From what I heard from NetApp sales and managers for the past few > months, it seems the new NearStore product line will be a > cost-effective, > low-performance, large capacity filer designated for > near-line storage. > > However, I just downloaded the newest Quoter from the NOW site. > The new Quoter indicated that an R100-12TB preconfigured is priced > for nearly USD$330,000(Wow!!!). Is this an error of the new Quoter? > Or, NetApp executives really think they can use this AMAZING > price to compete with other nearline storage devices? > > *Sigh* > > > Regards, > -- > Allen TK. Chang > Project Manager > allen_chang(a)syscape.com.tw > Syscape Technology > > >

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RE: R100 Price?
by mds＠gbnet.net 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Just for interest: http://www.nexsan.com/products/products/ataboy2/ataboy2.html I was quoted ~20K USD before discounts for a full 1.6TB 3U shelf. Given the 12TB starting point, the head and software and incremental discount as you get bigger/more of them I'd say the R100 is fairly decent value. The opening markedroid babble made me think it was an HSM product which I've hoped NetApp would consider doing for a long time. Sadly it's just a backup staging area that could make a decent high-capacity straightforward filer for many people. Nice start into a developing storage niche though. -- -Mark ... an Englishman in London ...

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RE: Migrating NT directories...
by Walsh, Warren (MN65) 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Check out Quest Software's Fastlane DM Consolidator. Excellent tool that migrates local users, groups, file permissions, and changes SIDS. http://www.quest.com/fastlane/consolidator/ <http://www.quest.com/fastlane/consolidator/> Used successfully on several NT file server migrations. Very quick, too. If you're using just global NT groups for security and don't have to recreate local groups and users, a simple backup and restore preserving file permissions would work as well. Assuming your backup software preserves the NT ACLs (some don't), and the filer volume uses NT style permissions as well. -warren Warren Walsh Honeywell Laboratories Information Technology 612-951-7837 warren.walsh(a)honeywell.com -----Original Message----- From: Don.Hickey(a)alcatel.com [mailto:Don.Hickey@alcatel.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:08 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Migrating NT directories... Basic question.... what tools are commonly used to migrate NT directories with complex permission sets? NT is not very good at preserving permission's. I'm looking at the best method of migrating NT group directories, many of which have very specific file permissions. I've tried tools such as dumpacl but many of the functions don't work against the filer. I'm running 6.1.1R2 on clustered 840's. Thanks!

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RE: Migrating NT directories...
by Lynch, Kevin 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Take a look at RoboCopy from the NT resoucre Kit. I havn't tried in on the filer but I would think it would work. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: beartman(a)ThoughtWorks.com [mailto:beartman@ThoughtWorks.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:38 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Migrating NT directories... We to use SecureCopy here. Nice product. |---------+----------------------------> | | Don.Hickey@alcate| | | l.com | | | Sent by: | | | owner-toasters@ma| | | thworks.com | | | | | | | | | 03/22/2002 08:07 | | | AM | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: toasters(a)mathworks.com | | cc: | | Subject: Migrating NT directories... | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------| Basic question.... what tools are commonly used to migrate NT directories with complex permission sets? NT is not very good at preserving permission's. I'm looking at the best method of migrating NT group directories, many of which have very specific file permissions. I've tried tools such as dumpacl but many of the functions don't work against the filer. I'm running 6.1.1R2 on clustered 840's. Thanks!

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RE: Putting a DS14 in a clustered system with mixed shelves ...
by Wedge, Cliff 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

I'll have the author of the guide see if he can assist you. Thanks, Cliff Wedge Mgr.., Technical Publications Network Appliance -----Original Message----- From: Waters, G Scott DSTI [mailto:scott.waters@SBCCOM.APGEA.ARMY.MIL] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:54 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Putting a DS14 in a clustered system with mixed shelves ... Ok ... Here's a tougher one ... I have a DS14 I need to add to a filer that is clustered. The docs tell you that the shelf needs to be last in the loop. What about in a clustered environment?? Does anyone have any experience in this scenario?? A NetApp tech said he would research this for me ... but I have not heard back from him. Thanks (as always) for your input. - Scott W. scott.waters(a)sbccom.apgea.army.mil

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RE: Simple 760 question ...
by Todd Phillips 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

That's correct. You can not add RAM to any of NetApps Filers. They are configed and shipped from the factory and cannot be modified. Only way to add RAM would be to upgrade the head. -----Original Message----- From: Rune Bakken To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Sent: 3/22/2002 8:58 AM Subject: Re: Simple 760 question ... "Waters, G Scott DSTI" <scott.waters(a)SBCCOM.APGEA.ARMY.MIL> writes: > My recollection (which I hope is correct) is that new filers come max'ed out > with RAM ... but the older filers did not and thus could be upgraded. Is > that correct? I believe that the F7xx and onward series came with max'ed out RAM, you may want to check the system configuration guide on NOW for reference. http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/hardware/NetApp/syscfg/ >>>>>>>.rune -- Rune Bakken Senior System Administrator Telenor Business Company (Nextra), IP-Services Ph: +47 22 77 03 93

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RE: Putting a DS14 in a clustered system with mixed shelves ...
by Todd Phillips 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Same thing. I've done several of these. Even in a clustered config, the Filers are still autonomous until a fail over occurs. So, when adding a DS14 to an existing loop, it needs to be the last one on the loop. You have to break the cluster. Down the filer your adding the shelf to. Ad the shelf. Bring filer back on line. Re-establish the cluster. Good luck. Todd -----Original Message----- From: Waters, G Scott DSTI To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Sent: 3/22/2002 8:54 AM Subject: Putting a DS14 in a clustered system with mixed shelves ... Ok ... Here's a tougher one ... I have a DS14 I need to add to a filer that is clustered. The docs tell you that the shelf needs to be last in the loop. What about in a clustered environment?? Does anyone have any experience in this scenario?? A NetApp tech said he would research this for me ... but I have not heard back from him. Thanks (as always) for your input. - Scott W. scott.waters(a)sbccom.apgea.army.mil

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quota notification script for NT
by Alfred Lim 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

Hi Everyone, Anyone has quota notification script for NT? I have tried the perl quota script using ActivePerl in NT, and it always give me a divided error or something like that. Thanks... Alfred

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Re: Migrating NT directories...
by beartman＠ThoughtWorks.com 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

We to use SecureCopy here. Nice product. |---------+----------------------------> | | Don.Hickey@alcate| | | l.com | | | Sent by: | | | owner-toasters@ma| | | thworks.com | | | | | | | | | 03/22/2002 08:07 | | | AM | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: toasters(a)mathworks.com | | cc: | | Subject: Migrating NT directories... | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Basic question.... what tools are commonly used to migrate NT directories with complex permission sets? NT is not very good at preserving permission's. I'm looking at the best method of migrating NT group directories, many of which have very specific file permissions. I've tried tools such as dumpacl but many of the functions don't work against the filer. I'm running 6.1.1R2 on clustered 840's. Thanks!

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