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RE: Suse & NetApp break oracle: flock problem
by Alex Harkema 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Mike, thank you for your reply. I really suspect this is a linux-(kernel)problem. However I was curious if anyone had encountered the same issue. Besides that, we had not rebooted the machine when the error occurred. At the moment installations are running on the linux box (now still running the 2.4.18.-134 kernel, this one *not* containing the polyserver-flock patch) and I don't have the opportunity to reboot that one. However, I'll gladly send you the dumps afterward if we're still experiencing same problems. Can you tell me were I can find certifications for the oracle-on-linux/netapp products? Like, is 9iRac certified on Netapp? tia, Alex -----Original Message----- From: Kiernan, Michael [mailto:mkiernan@netapp.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 2:09 PM To: 'Alex Harkema' Cc: Rolf Fokkens Subject: RE: Suse & NetApp break oracle: flock problem Hi Alex, What did 'priv set advanced; lock_dump -h' show on the filer at the time you get the error ? Was Oracle shutdown cleanly prior to reboot ? One problem we're aware of with Linux rpc.statd is that it sometimes can fail to remove the locks on the filer on reboot, due to it locking with an unqualified nodename, and sending lock recovery packets with a fully-qualified domain name. If Oracle shutdown cleanly, however, the locks should have been released by that action. A pktt trace from the filer to the linux box (pktt start all -i <ip of oracle linux box>) while you reboot the upgraded box and restart oracle would be useful, as would the lock_dump output. I'll be happy to look at the data. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Alex Harkema [mailto:HarkemaA@vertis.nl] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:24 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Cc: Rolf Fokkens Subject: Suse & NetApp break oracle: flock problem Hi all! After upgrading the Linux kernel on our SuSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) to k_smp-2.4.18-224 we were unable to start our Oracle Database which was located on a NetApp Filer. All the feedback we got was "no locks available" Further investigation showed that k_smp-2.4.18-224 introduced a polyserve-flock patch which probably causes the problems. Has anyone ran into this? We'll do tests with k_smp-2.4.18-224 and/or 2.4.18-237 whithout the polyserve-flock patch and share this with those who express their interest. I address this report to both SuSE and NetApp for it's this combination that breaks Oracle. Because it's both in SuSE's and NetApp's interest I hope this report is appreciated though it may not have been sent through the proper channels. Alex Harkema Vertis

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Suse & NetApp break oracle: flock problem
by Alex Harkema 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

Hi all! After upgrading the Linux kernel on our SuSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) to k_smp-2.4.18-224 we were unable to start our Oracle Database which was located on a NetApp Filer. All the feedback we got was "no locks available" Further investigation showed that k_smp-2.4.18-224 introduced a polyserve-flock patch which probably causes the problems. Has anyone ran into this? We'll do tests with k_smp-2.4.18-224 and/or 2.4.18-237 whithout the polyserve-flock patch and share this with those who express their interest. I address this report to both SuSE and NetApp for it's this combination that breaks Oracle. Because it's both in SuSE's and NetApp's interest I hope this report is appreciated though it may not have been sent through the proper channels. Alex Harkema Vertis

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RE: Access the filer via passwordless ssh
by Potakamuri, Sreenivasa 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

This feature is not possible with ONTAP 6.3. But, this will be available in the future release. Thanks, Sreenivasa Potakamuri Network Appliance. -----Original Message----- From: Leslie Wang To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: 12/8/02 3:49 AM Subject: Access the filer via passwordless ssh Does anyone know if his is possible with ONTAP 6.3?

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RE: Accessing Filer from DOS
by Hall, Tom 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

I ran into a similar issue with a network boot disk that Norton Ghost made. I solved the problem by using Bart's network boot disk to connect to our filer. They seem to keep up with new dos drivers/utils for tcp/ip, ms network client, and nic drivers. You can download the disk from http://students.lco-college.edu/bootcd/network_boot_disk.htm <http://students.lco-college.edu/bootcd/network_boot_disk.htm> -----Original Message----- From: steven boyer [mailto:sboyer1@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:11 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Accessing Filer from DOS If a NT server goes down, we want to be able to re-image the windows server from the filer. We must do this from a DOS prompt. So the question is how do I access the filer using DOS. The following is the information from our NT Admin: I am trying to connect to the filer at \\crsqfiler\image to create and store images of our WIN2K servers. I used Powerquest to create the boot disks (Powerquest Boot Disk Builder Version 5.01 Build Bdb501.012). I receive the following error when attempting to connect to the filer from DOS - Error 58 The network has responded incorrectly. Attempts to connect to other sharepoints on the filer are also unsuccessful. I can connect to any WIN2K Share with no problem. I have reviewed the issues in the NETAPP Knowledge base, as well as, Powerquest's knowledge base and can find no remedy Has anyone been able to get this to work? Steven

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Placing Oracle onto a cluster
by George Kahler 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

I would appreciate if someone could share how they break the various Oracle parts (pls excuse, I'm not a DBA), ie. data, logs, archives, & etc. amongst the various volumes in a NetApp cluster. I have an Oracle instance running on a singe F840 that very shortly is going to be clustered. The Oracle binaries are in a separate qtree and the rest the DBAs put in another qtree that I created for them. The qtrees and mount are by the SID. (HR) On the toaster /vol/db/<sid>/archs archive logs /ctl control files /data dbf files /rbs dbs files /redo redo logs /system /temp this gets mounted on a Sun DB server as filer:/vol/db/HR /rmounts/HR /oradata/HR --> /rmounts/DB/HR The DBAs refer to the database by a slink /oradata/HR in this case. A new mandate is to utilize the clustered F840s and to separate the database (.dbf), the redo and archive logs. In the cluster env there are now 4 volumes, 2 on each head. One for database, the other for logs (one has snapshots the other does not). Production DB is on one head, QA on the other. filer: A filer: B ------------------------ vol DB vol DB vol log vol log Do you folks that spread your logs end up with multiple nfs mounts per database? Do I suggest to my DBAs that I will have something like: A:/vol/db/HR/u01/data /rmounts/HR/u01 /rbs /system /temp A:/vol/log/HR/u02/redo1 /rmounts/HR/u02 /arch1 /ctl1 B:/vol/log/HR/u03/redo2 /rmounts/HR/u03 /arch2 /ctl2 /oradata/HR --> /rmounts/HR So I end up with 3 nfs mounts for each instance of the database? How do you people do this? There are about 10 other DBs waiting. What about a DSS; a reporting database? At the present time with all of the DB components on one volume all the DBAs have to snap the one volume and they can start up a DSS instance. In this new scenario, I guess they will still have to snap the DB volume and also snap one of the LOG volumes. What do you do? Sorry for being so winded but I was looking for specifics, unfortunately I couldn't find anything on either the NOW site or the archive list. Just the White Papers that describe the concept. Thanks, George ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Kahler e-mail: george(a)yorku.ca Sr. Systems Administrator humans: (416) 736-2100 x.22699 Computing and Network Services machines: (416) 736-5830 Ontario, Canada, M3J-1P3

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new gigabit card
by Piotr KUCHARSKI 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

Are there more than one model of gigabit card for filer 740? Which is the best, then? p. -- Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. -- Commissioner Pravin Lal http://nerdquiz.sgh.waw.pl/ -- polska wersja quizu dla nerdów ;)

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AW: Accessing Filer from DOS
by Friedrich, Bernhard 06 Dec '02

06 Dec '02

There's yet another entry you may need to set: preferredredir=full This needs to be set in system.ini, typically in the directory where you keep the "net" command on your bootdisk. That way, you won't have to issue "net start /full" but a "net start" will suffice. If that still doesn't help, also set autostart=full in system.ini - this has always worked for us. See http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=ntapcs3583 for details and also see http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=ntapcs2762 - there's a typo in that article, though - it needs to be preferredredir instead of prefrredredir. Greetings, Bernhard Friedrich Uniklinikum Heidelberg ZIM - Server und Basissysteme -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Steven Boyer GD-Mail [mailto:steven.boyer@gd-centcom.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 17:40 An: Kumar, Rahul; Hall, Tom; toasters(a)mathworks.com Betreff: Re: Accessing Filer from DOS We made all those changes and still no glory ----- Original Message ----- From: Kumar, Rahul To: Hall, Tom ; steven boyer ; toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: RE: Accessing Filer from DOS Hi, You just need to modify the following line in the floppy to gain access to filers from DOS prompt. By default, the boot disk builder uses basic redirection. The Filers require Full redirection to make connections. Edit the A:\autoexec.bat on the floppy you just created and look for the line net start basic Change this line to read net start full That will take care of the problem. Rahul Kumar, Tele: + 91 20 2930812 (D), Cell: + 91 982230 9177. EDS PLM Solutions, Pune, India. -----Original Message----- From: Hall, Tom [mailto:Tom.Hall@exchange.webmd.net] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:46 AM To: 'steven boyer'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Accessing Filer from DOS I ran into a similar issue with a network boot disk that Norton Ghost made. I solved the problem by using Bart's network boot disk to connect to our filer. They seem to keep up with new dos drivers/utils for tcp/ip, ms network client, and nic drivers. You can download the disk from http://students.lco-college.edu/bootcd/network_boot_disk.htm -----Original Message----- From: steven boyer [mailto:sboyer1@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:11 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Accessing Filer from DOS If a NT server goes down, we want to be able to re-image the windows server from the filer. We must do this from a DOS prompt. So the question is how do I access the filer using DOS. The following is the information from our NT Admin: I am trying to connect to the filer at \\crsqfiler\image to create and store images of our WIN2K servers. I used Powerquest to create the boot disks (Powerquest Boot Disk Builder Version 5.01 Build Bdb501.012). I receive the following error when attempting to connect to the filer from DOS - Error 58 The network has responded incorrectly. Attempts to connect to other sharepoints on the filer are also unsuccessful. I can connect to any WIN2K Share with no problem. I have reviewed the issues in the NETAPP Knowledge base, as well as, Powerquest's knowledge base and can find no remedy Has anyone been able to get this to work? Steven

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RE: Accessing Filer from DOS
by Kumar, Rahul 05 Dec '02

05 Dec '02

Hi, You just need to modify the following line in the floppy to gain access to filers from DOS prompt. By default, the boot disk builder uses basic redirection. The Filers require Full redirection to make connections. Edit the A:\autoexec.bat on the floppy you just created and look for the line net start basic Change this line to read net start full That will take care of the problem. Rahul Kumar, Tele: + 91 20 2930812 (D), Cell: + 91 982230 9177. EDS PLM Solutions, Pune, India. -----Original Message----- From: Hall, Tom [mailto:Tom.Hall@exchange.webmd.net] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:46 AM To: 'steven boyer'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Accessing Filer from DOS I ran into a similar issue with a network boot disk that Norton Ghost made. I solved the problem by using Bart's network boot disk to connect to our filer. They seem to keep up with new dos drivers/utils for tcp/ip, ms network client, and nic drivers. You can download the disk from http://students.lco-college.edu/bootcd/network_boot_disk.htm -----Original Message----- From: steven boyer [mailto:sboyer1@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:11 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Accessing Filer from DOS If a NT server goes down, we want to be able to re-image the windows server from the filer. We must do this from a DOS prompt. So the question is how do I access the filer using DOS. The following is the information from our NT Admin: I am trying to connect to the filer at \\crsqfiler\image to create and store images of our WIN2K servers. I used Powerquest to create the boot disks (Powerquest Boot Disk Builder Version 5.01 Build Bdb501.012). I receive the following error when attempting to connect to the filer from DOS - Error 58 The network has responded incorrectly. Attempts to connect to other sharepoints on the filer are also unsuccessful. I can connect to any WIN2K Share with no problem. I have reviewed the issues in the NETAPP Knowledge base, as well as, Powerquest's knowledge base and can find no remedy Has anyone been able to get this to work? Steven

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Netware file security migration to CIFS NetApp filer
by Hight, Steve - Perot 05 Dec '02

05 Dec '02

Has anyone used the Migration Tool for Netware that came with NT 4.0 to migrate from Netware 4.x to a CIFS filer? There is already a NT domain setup, all clients are authenticating to both NDS and a NT4 domain. The problem is that it looks like there is not a way to use the Migration Tool for Netware that came with NT 4.0 to migrate straight to the filer. The tool wants to copy from a Netware volume to local disk on the NT domain controller that you have the tools and gateway service on. Anyone know of a workaround to copy from Netware to the filer? I realize that if I did not need to migrate security my options would be much greater (NFS, FTP, etc), but migrating security is a must. Thanks for your help. Steve Hight Perot Systems

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RE: Accessing Filer from DOS
by Hill, Aaron 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

One word; SAMBA If you are running unix/linux servers in the same environment, run samba on one of them and modify your share connection on the Norton bootdisk or whatever you are using. Eg net use z \\ <file:///\\%3cunix_servername%3e\%3csamba_share_to_image_dir> <unix_servername>\<samba_share_to_image_dir>. SAMBA will take care of all the authentication with your DC with your existing ghost userid. We use it for our pc/laptop images. SAMBA and unix/linux. Never leave home without them! Aaron www.navitaire.com -----Original Message----- From: Hall, Tom [mailto:Tom.Hall@exchange.webmd.net] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 8:16 AM To: 'steven boyer'; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Accessing Filer from DOS I ran into a similar issue with a network boot disk that Norton Ghost made. I solved the problem by using Bart's network boot disk to connect to our filer. They seem to keep up with new dos drivers/utils for tcp/ip, ms network client, and nic drivers. You can download the disk from http://students.lco-college.edu/bootcd/network_boot_disk.htm <http://students.lco-college.edu/bootcd/network_boot_disk.htm> -----Original Message----- From: steven boyer [mailto:sboyer1@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:11 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Accessing Filer from DOS If a NT server goes down, we want to be able to re-image the windows server from the filer. We must do this from a DOS prompt. So the question is how do I access the filer using DOS. The following is the information from our NT Admin: I am trying to connect to the filer at \\crsqfiler\image to create and store images of our WIN2K servers. I used Powerquest to create the boot disks (Powerquest Boot Disk Builder Version 5.01 Build Bdb501.012). I receive the following error when attempting to connect to the filer from DOS - Error 58 The network has responded incorrectly. Attempts to connect to other sharepoints on the filer are also unsuccessful. I can connect to any WIN2K Share with no problem. I have reviewed the issues in the NETAPP Knowledge base, as well as, Powerquest's knowledge base and can find no remedy Has anyone been able to get this to work? Steven

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Accessing Filer from DOS
by steven boyer 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

If a NT server goes down, we want to be able to re-image the windows server from the filer. We must do this from a DOS prompt. So the question is how do I access the filer using DOS. The following is the information from our NT Admin: I am trying to connect to the filer at \\crsqfiler\image to create and store images of our WIN2K servers. I used Powerquest to create the boot disks (Powerquest Boot Disk Builder Version 5.01 Build Bdb501.012). I receive the following error when attempting to connect to the filer from DOS - Error 58 The network has responded incorrectly. Attempts to connect to other sharepoints on the filer are also unsuccessful. I can connect to any WIN2K Share with no problem. I have reviewed the issues in the NETAPP Knowledge base, as well as, Powerquest's knowledge base and can find no remedy Has anyone been able to get this to work? Steven

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Tape Jukebox and scsi errors (Overland LXS mini library express)
by Darragh, Stephen J 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

Hello, We have a F820 with a lvd scsi card and a Overland Data LXS mini library express (1 dlt7000 and 15 slots) This is directly attached and controlled via ndmp and Veritas NetBackup 3.4.1 We are getting the following errors: Sun Dec 1 12:30:18 EST [isp_timeout:warning]: 1.4(0x015e8ca4, 0x00): command timeout, quiescing bus to allow outstanding I/O to complete. Sun Dec 1 12:30:24 EST [isp_timeout:warning]: Resetting SCSI adapter 1 (ha #0) Sun Dec 1 12:30:25 EST [isp_timeout:warning]: Resetting SCSI bus 1 (ha #0) to clear outstanding I/O. Sun Dec 1 12:30:39 EST [isp_timeout:warning]: 1.4(0x015e8ca4, 0x00): command timeout, quiescing bus to allow outstanding I/O to complete. Sun Dec 1 12:30:45 EST [isp_timeout:warning]: Resetting SCSI adapter 1 (ha #0) Sun Dec 1 12:30:45 EST [isp_timeout:warning]: Resetting SCSI bus 1 (ha #0) to clear outstanding I/O. Sun Dec 1 12:31:31 EST [isp_timeout:warning]: 1.4(0x015ea0a4, 0x00): command timeout, quiescing bus to allow outstanding I/O to complete. When we reboot we can use the jukebox, we can use this and it will run fine till we power cycle the jukebox and then we have to bounce the filer. And we can't figure out why we are getting these errors. I have tried swapping cables, terminator, scsi cards, and the jukebox itself. The jukebox is a SE device that is attached to the lvd scsi controller on the filer which should be supported. In fact, if I try to add a 2nd jukebox, the errors are so bad that I can't see either one. I have set the indentification to be DEC TL800, since the filer did not recognize this as a Overland LXS. Does anyone have one of these jukebox's and what Vendor ID and Prodcut ID are you using??? Thanks Stephen Darragh

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backup troubles
by Ambrose_Earle＠shamrockfoods.com 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

Does anyone else experience frequent backup failures? We have an F840 cluster and we use NetVault to perform ndmpd backups to an overland tape library. Many times we receive messages like Mon Nov 25 02:43:55 MST [filer: ispfc_main:error]: Tape (switch:0.1L3) hard media error: Sense_Key (3) ASC (c) ASCQ (0) and the backup fails. Our same system is also used by a UNIX server and it never fails, so is DataONTAP more sensitive to these types of issues? Technically, what triggers this? Any help would be much appreciated,

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RE: Network Adapters for Netcache C720
by Alan McLachlan 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

Oscar, You'll need to look at the System Configuration Guide on now.netapp.com for a C720 for the version of NetCache you are running to confirm compatability. I just tried to look for you but that part of the site appears to be down at the moment. Having said that, I'm sure any of the adapters you listed will work just fine, if what you are getting at is that you have those in stock and you're not sure which one to use. If you are suggesting using a non-NetApp adaptor, you need to look at the chipset on the NetApp adapter and find another OEM card with the same chipset. i.e. the X1001B is a common Znyx adapter. However, there are two issues with doing this: 1) The firmware on your substitute adaptor may no be the same as the one from NetApp, so it may not work correctly. 2) You will violate your NetApp hardware maintenance contract by using a third-party product inside the box. I do know that the NetApp X1025B gigabit ethernet adaptor is a stock standard Intel Pro1000 which is fully interchangeable, i.e. you can use the NetApp card in a Windows or Linux box and it will work just fine and the regular Intel 8940PWL will work just fine in a Filer (at about a third of the price you would have to pay NetApp for it!). We often use the original Intel card in NetApp boxes in our test labs. However, issue (2) above still applies, so we would never recommend any of our customers do this in a live environment. regards, Alan McLachlan Senior Systems Engineer Storage Management Solutions ASI Solutions www.asi.com.au Ph +61 2 6230 1566 Fax +61 2 6230 5343 Mobile +61 428 655644 e-mail amclachlan(a)asi.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Rodriguez Hernandez [mailto:orh@satec.es] Sent: Friday, 29 November 2002 8:46 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Cc: Jose Luis Jimenez Fernandez; Jose Sanchez Subject: Network Adapters for Netcache C720 Hello We currently have one C720 Netache unit. We need to have this unit more than one Ethnernet port, and at our local stock we have many different types of Network Adapters, and we would like to know if we could use one of those instead of buying a new one. The network adapters fort C720 are the following NetApp P/N: Single-port 10Base-T/100Base-TX: P/N X1001B* P/N X1001C Quad-port 10Base-T/100Base-TX P/N X1012B* P/N X1012C Does anyone know which network card (manufacturer, model) are those P/N for? Has anyone used succesfully any different network adapter not from NetApp for the NetCache C720 unit? Thanks. Oscar. **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE ****

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RE: no_atime_update
by Alan McLachlan 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Ambrose, This article is referring to databases stored on the ext2 linux filesystem, which is a traditional update-in-place fs with fixed locations for metadata. This means that every time a file is read or written the access time (atime) field in the directory entry is updated, causing a seek to the directory inode. Note that actual writes cause the last-modified field to also be changed, you can't do anything about that one. So for transactional read intensive applications (such as databse reporting) on traditional filesystems (ext2/ext3/reiserfs/UFS/NTFS/JFS/AdvFS/XFS etc.), turning off the atime update for those files will cause a substantial reduction in both metadata processing CPU overhead and drive head seeking - hence the performance improvements noted. You would actually see an even greater performance improvement for files held locally on a Windows server due to the NTFS MFT location, so those seeking to optimise a SQL Server installation on a local NTFS filesystem should consider turning off the atime update on their db files. Everything changes however when you move the database to a remote WAFL filesystem on a NetApp Filer. On Network Appliance's WAFL filesytem, we have no fixed locations for metadata and never update-in-place. All required metadata changes for the new consistent image, right back to the root inode, are written at each consistency point. So on NetApp, the access time updata simply causes a few extra blocks to be written at each consistency point (every 10 seconds unless a lot of incoming data writes are received as well). Since we these blocks are written to new locations we aren't seeking back to old spots so there's very little or no head additional head movement, and since the metadata processing is performed by the Filer there is ZERO difference in CPU overhead on the actual Oracle server (i.e. it has no visibility of the atime update setting which is local to the Filer). So the performance benefit to be gained by turning of the atime update on a filer volume hosting an Oracle database is minimal, and being able to track when files have been read may be useful to the administrator, particulary when performing security breach analysis. NetApp do recommend that you turn this off in a limited range of environments, such a read-only library data warehouse where the atime updates are high compared to the regular write load and may cause unnecessary consistency points within the normal 10 second timeout, or add a significant number of blocks to the CP. In these cases you may see a performance improvement but it is still unlikely to be more than a few percent. Note that if you are using the new SnapDrive VLD or LUN block I/O products with your Filer to host the database, you're back to a traditional filesystem managed by the attached Oracle host, so WAFL features don't offload the metadata processing CPU overhead like they do for NFS/CIFS access. However you will still gain some benefit from the block location virtualisation (the head seeks are eliminated because the VLD blocks are not actually overwritten in place, the host just thinks they are.... :o) ) Hope all this helps. Alan McLachlan Senior Systems Engineer Storage Management Solutions NetAppCA, FCNE ASI Solutions www.asi.com.au Ph +61 2 6230 1566 Fax +61 2 6230 5343 Mobile +61 428 655644 e-mail amclachlan(a)asi.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Ambrose_Earle(a)shamrockfoods.com [mailto:Ambrose_Earle@shamrockfoods.com] Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 10:19 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: no_atime_update Is anyone using this option with volumes containing Oracle or Lotus Notes files? Have you tested it for any performance improvements? How does this differ from mounting with noatime? I read an article that claimed a nice performance increase when used with Oracle datafiles. Here's the link: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5840 **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE ****

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Change/Notify in a mixed environment ?
by Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

I'm currently investigating the possibility of using a filer in a mixed unix/windows environment. Basically, we will have a unix-based ftp server, and various windows based web servers. The way this particular application is built means we could make good use of the cifs mechanism change/notify. As far as I can see, OnTap supports this, more or less, even to the extent of sending notification to cifs clients when an nfs client makes a change to a file. However, the documentation (including bugs online) is unclear on how complete the implementation is. Does anyone know what the current status is ? regards, ---Ketil K. Elgethun

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.snapshot directories
by barrie_spence＠agilent.com 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

We make extensive use of automount and each users home directory is mounted separately. With the .snapshot directory enabled, du and find recurse through the snapshot trees and in general this causes too many issues for our users, so we've disabled them. Is there any more sophisticated way of making the snapshots available that won't cause this sort of problem (e.g. can we export the snapshots separately? make them available as a separate CIFS share?). Thanks, Barrie

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no_atime_update
by Ambrose_Earle＠shamrockfoods.com 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Is anyone using this option with volumes containing Oracle or Lotus Notes files? Have you tested it for any performance improvements? How does this differ from mounting with noatime? I read an article that claimed a nice performance increase when used with Oracle datafiles. Here's the link: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5840

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Network Adapters for Netcache C720
by Oscar Rodriguez Hernandez 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Hello We currently have one C720 Netache unit. We need to have this unit more than one Ethnernet port, and at our local stock we have many different types of Network Adapters, and we would like to know if we could use one of those instead of buying a new one. The network adapters fort C720 are the following NetApp P/N: Single-port 10Base-T/100Base-TX: P/N X1001B* P/N X1001C Quad-port 10Base-T/100Base-TX P/N X1012B* P/N X1012C Does anyone know which network card (manufacturer, model) are those P/N for? Has anyone used succesfully any different network adapter not from NetApp for the NetCache C720 unit? Thanks. Oscar.

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please kindly get back to me
by MR. JEFF MUBANGA 29 Nov '02

29 Nov '02

Sir, I am JEFF MUBANGA, the secetary of Africa White Farmers Co-operation(AWFC) of Harare, Zimbabwe. After the last general elections in my country where the incumbent president, Mr.Robert Mugabe won the presidential election, the government has adopted a very aggressive land reforms programme. This programme is solely aimed at taking the land owned by white African farmers for redistribution to black africans. This programme has attracted worldwide condemnation from world leaders including British prime minister, Mr Tony Blair and also forced several white farmers to flee the country for fear of victimization and physical abuse. Just some few weeks ago, our headquarters in Harare was attacked and looted by black protesters and in the process burnt down the whole building. Fortunately,they did not get access to the huge funds kept in the strong room which belong to the co-operative body. This cash amounting to US$10.5 million was kept at the secretariat rather than in the bank for fear of seizure by the government agencies. Now I have the money lodged in a local security company which was discretionary tagged 'GEMSTONES' and would need to get it invested in a viable business venture in Europe. Once I can get your commitment and sincerity of investing this funds on our behalf then I would proceed to get the funds freighted to Europe by the security company without any detection by the oppresive government, from where you would be required to pick it up for investment for us. You do not have anything to worry about as I would undertake all charges involved in freighting the funds to europe, and the business proposal is legal and risk free. You would be adequately compensated for all your effort once we complete this transaction by availing you 25% of the funds or alternatively you will be a partner in whatever investment we will go into. Please get back to me if you can be of assistance and I would want our correspondence to be via email as most phone lines of white farmers are presently bugged by the government. I expect your confidentiality and your prompt response to this mail so as to proceed. Kind regards, MR. JEFF MUBANGA

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RE: Ontap 6.2.2 and W2K domain joining
by Kumar, Rahul 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Go for 6.3. It works really well and we have tested it. Rahul Rahul Kumar, Tele: + 91 20 2930812 (D), Cell: + 91 982230 9177. EDS PLM Solutions, Pune, India. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Sanborn [mailto:esanborn@snowshore.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:07 PM To: Reinoud Reynders; Stephane Bentebba Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com; support(a)fps.fr Subject: RE: Ontap 6.2.2 and W2K domain joining Thank you folks! This is indeed my problem. -Ed -----Original Message----- From: Reinoud Reynders [mailto:Reinoud.Reynders@uz.kuleuven.ac.be] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:47 AM To: Stephane Bentebba; Ed Sanborn Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com; support(a)fps.fr Subject: Re: Ontap 6.2.2 and W2K domain joining I think that Staphane mains bug number 50610 Reinoud http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/bol?Type=Detail&Display=50610 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephane Bentebba" <stephane.bentebba(a)fps.fr> To: "Ed Sanborn" <esanborn(a)snowshore.com> Cc: <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; <support(a)fps.fr> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Ontap 6.2.2 and W2K domain joining > Ed Sanborn wrote: > > >Hi folks, > > > > On my F720 I have recently upgraded my Ontap version > >from 5.3.6R2 to 6.2.2. I now have a weird situation > >in that when I browse the W2K network with a PC I cannot > >see the NetApp in the browse list for my domain. I DO > >see the NetApp in the Active Directory Computer container. > >It is also listed in WINS. I also can network map > >a drive to the NetApp from the Windows Explorer Tools > >menu. It works fine. Also, anyone that has a present > >network-mapped drive is able to use it. The ONLY > >problem is browsing for the NetApp. It is not even > >listed in the browse list. Has anyone seen this before? > > > >My W2K domain is SNOWSHORE while my DNS/AD directory domain > >is office.snowshore.com. Here's the output from my > >recent cifs setup: > > > >thor> cifs setup > >Enable CIFS access to the filer by a Windows(tm) PC > > Your filer is visible to all systems using WINS. > > The WINS name servers currently configured are: > > 192.168.1.20 > >Do you want to modify this list? [no]: > > This filer is currently configured as a Multiprotocol filer. > >Do you want to configure this filer as a NTFS-only filer? [no]: > > This filer is currently a member of the domain 'OFFICE' > > If you want to change the name of the filer, or change > > the filer's domain membership, you must delete its > > existing account information. > >Do you want to delete the existing filer account information? [no]: yes > > The default name of this filer will be 'THOR'. > >Do you want to modify this name? [no]: > > CIFS supports three types of user authentication: > > 1. Windows Domain authentication. > > 2. Windows Workgroup authentication using the filer's user accounts. > > 3. /etc/passwd and/or NIS based authentication. > >What type of authentication will this filer use? [1]: 1 > > The filer will use Windows Domain authentication. > >Enter the Windows Domain for the filer []:office.snowshore.com > > OFFICE is a Windows 2000(tm) domain. > > In order to create this filer's domain account, you must supply the > > name and password of an administrator account with sufficient > >privilege > > to add the filer to the OFFICE domain. > >Please enter the Windows 2000 user [OFFICE\Administrator]: > >Password for OFFICE\Administrator: > >CIFS - Logged in as OFFICE\Administrator. > > By default, setup creates the filer account in the Active > > Directory container named 'Computers'. Alternatively, you can > > install the filer in an organizational unit (OU) by specifying > > the domain relative distinguished name of the OU, as in > > 'ou=innerOU,ou=outerOU'. > >Active Directory container for filer account? [cn=computers]: > >CIFS - Connecting to domain controller. > >Mon Nov 25 23:03:46 EST [nbns_timer:info]: All CIFS name registrations > >complete fo > >r local server > >Welcome to the OFFICE Windows 2000(tm) domain. > > > >CIFS local server is running. > >thor> > > > >One of the thing's I am very curious about is the fact that the machine > >"joins" the OFFICE domain. All of my workstations "join" the > >SNOWSHORE or atleast the office.snowshore.com domain. Could this be the > >problem? > > > >Thanks, > > > > Ed > > > >Ed Sanborn (978) 367-8478 > >Principal Network Administrator > >SnowShore Networks > >285 Billerica Rd. > >Chelmsford, MA. 01824 > > > > > > > I heard about a problem like this, (actually, the filer was not seen > from either the network neighbor neither from inside the > Active Directory Computer container but was integrate the domain fine) > you could tried to upgrade in 6.3 if possible, > it seems to be related to a netbios bug in ontapp . > i dont have any bug number to supply to you for the moment > > >

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RE: Ontap 6.2.2 and W2K domain joining
by Ed Sanborn 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Thank you folks! This is indeed my problem. -Ed -----Original Message----- From: Reinoud Reynders [mailto:Reinoud.Reynders@uz.kuleuven.ac.be] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:47 AM To: Stephane Bentebba; Ed Sanborn Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com; support(a)fps.fr Subject: Re: Ontap 6.2.2 and W2K domain joining I think that Staphane mains bug number 50610 Reinoud http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/bol?Type=Detail&Display=50610 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephane Bentebba" <stephane.bentebba(a)fps.fr> To: "Ed Sanborn" <esanborn(a)snowshore.com> Cc: <toasters(a)mathworks.com>; <support(a)fps.fr> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Ontap 6.2.2 and W2K domain joining > Ed Sanborn wrote: > > >Hi folks, > > > > On my F720 I have recently upgraded my Ontap version > >from 5.3.6R2 to 6.2.2. I now have a weird situation > >in that when I browse the W2K network with a PC I cannot > >see the NetApp in the browse list for my domain. I DO > >see the NetApp in the Active Directory Computer container. > >It is also listed in WINS. I also can network map > >a drive to the NetApp from the Windows Explorer Tools > >menu. It works fine. Also, anyone that has a present > >network-mapped drive is able to use it. The ONLY > >problem is browsing for the NetApp. It is not even > >listed in the browse list. Has anyone seen this before? > > > >My W2K domain is SNOWSHORE while my DNS/AD directory domain > >is office.snowshore.com. Here's the output from my > >recent cifs setup: > > > >thor> cifs setup > >Enable CIFS access to the filer by a Windows(tm) PC > > Your filer is visible to all systems using WINS. > > The WINS name servers currently configured are: > > 192.168.1.20 > >Do you want to modify this list? [no]: > > This filer is currently configured as a Multiprotocol filer. > >Do you want to configure this filer as a NTFS-only filer? [no]: > > This filer is currently a member of the domain 'OFFICE' > > If you want to change the name of the filer, or change > > the filer's domain membership, you must delete its > > existing account information. > >Do you want to delete the existing filer account information? [no]: yes > > The default name of this filer will be 'THOR'. > >Do you want to modify this name? [no]: > > CIFS supports three types of user authentication: > > 1. Windows Domain authentication. > > 2. Windows Workgroup authentication using the filer's user accounts. > > 3. /etc/passwd and/or NIS based authentication. > >What type of authentication will this filer use? [1]: 1 > > The filer will use Windows Domain authentication. > >Enter the Windows Domain for the filer []:office.snowshore.com > > OFFICE is a Windows 2000(tm) domain. > > In order to create this filer's domain account, you must supply the > > name and password of an administrator account with sufficient > >privilege > > to add the filer to the OFFICE domain. > >Please enter the Windows 2000 user [OFFICE\Administrator]: > >Password for OFFICE\Administrator: > >CIFS - Logged in as OFFICE\Administrator. > > By default, setup creates the filer account in the Active > > Directory container named 'Computers'. Alternatively, you can > > install the filer in an organizational unit (OU) by specifying > > the domain relative distinguished name of the OU, as in > > 'ou=innerOU,ou=outerOU'. > >Active Directory container for filer account? [cn=computers]: > >CIFS - Connecting to domain controller. > >Mon Nov 25 23:03:46 EST [nbns_timer:info]: All CIFS name registrations > >complete fo > >r local server > >Welcome to the OFFICE Windows 2000(tm) domain. > > > >CIFS local server is running. > >thor> > > > >One of the thing's I am very curious about is the fact that the machine > >"joins" the OFFICE domain. All of my workstations "join" the > >SNOWSHORE or atleast the office.snowshore.com domain. Could this be the > >problem? > > > >Thanks, > > > > Ed > > > >Ed Sanborn (978) 367-8478 > >Principal Network Administrator > >SnowShore Networks > >285 Billerica Rd. > >Chelmsford, MA. 01824 > > > > > > > I heard about a problem like this, (actually, the filer was not seen > from either the network neighbor neither from inside the > Active Directory Computer container but was integrate the domain fine) > you could tried to upgrade in 6.3 if possible, > it seems to be related to a netbios bug in ontapp . > i dont have any bug number to supply to you for the moment > > >

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Ontap 6.2.2 and W2K domain joining
by Ed Sanborn 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Hi folks, On my F720 I have recently upgraded my Ontap version from 5.3.6R2 to 6.2.2. I now have a weird situation in that when I browse the W2K network with a PC I cannot see the NetApp in the browse list for my domain. I DO see the NetApp in the Active Directory Computer container. It is also listed in WINS. I also can network map a drive to the NetApp from the Windows Explorer Tools menu. It works fine. Also, anyone that has a present network-mapped drive is able to use it. The ONLY problem is browsing for the NetApp. It is not even listed in the browse list. Has anyone seen this before? My W2K domain is SNOWSHORE while my DNS/AD directory domain is office.snowshore.com. Here's the output from my recent cifs setup: thor> cifs setup Enable CIFS access to the filer by a Windows(tm) PC Your filer is visible to all systems using WINS. The WINS name servers currently configured are: 192.168.1.20 Do you want to modify this list? [no]: This filer is currently configured as a Multiprotocol filer. Do you want to configure this filer as a NTFS-only filer? [no]: This filer is currently a member of the domain 'OFFICE' If you want to change the name of the filer, or change the filer's domain membership, you must delete its existing account information. Do you want to delete the existing filer account information? [no]: yes The default name of this filer will be 'THOR'. Do you want to modify this name? [no]: CIFS supports three types of user authentication: 1. Windows Domain authentication. 2. Windows Workgroup authentication using the filer's user accounts. 3. /etc/passwd and/or NIS based authentication. What type of authentication will this filer use? [1]: 1 The filer will use Windows Domain authentication. Enter the Windows Domain for the filer []:office.snowshore.com OFFICE is a Windows 2000(tm) domain. In order to create this filer's domain account, you must supply the name and password of an administrator account with sufficient privilege to add the filer to the OFFICE domain. Please enter the Windows 2000 user [OFFICE\Administrator]: Password for OFFICE\Administrator: CIFS - Logged in as OFFICE\Administrator. By default, setup creates the filer account in the Active Directory container named 'Computers'. Alternatively, you can install the filer in an organizational unit (OU) by specifying the domain relative distinguished name of the OU, as in 'ou=innerOU,ou=outerOU'. Active Directory container for filer account? [cn=computers]: CIFS - Connecting to domain controller. Mon Nov 25 23:03:46 EST [nbns_timer:info]: All CIFS name registrations complete fo r local server Welcome to the OFFICE Windows 2000(tm) domain. CIFS local server is running. thor> One of the thing's I am very curious about is the fact that the machine "joins" the OFFICE domain. All of my workstations "join" the SNOWSHORE or atleast the office.snowshore.com domain. Could this be the problem? Thanks, Ed Ed Sanborn (978) 367-8478 Principal Network Administrator SnowShore Networks 285 Billerica Rd. Chelmsford, MA. 01824

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