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Snapvault and 6.4
by Frank Gilmurray 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Anyone using snapvault w/ 6.4? We use snapvault to update a R100 and it was working fine until we upgraded to 6.4 yesterday. We upgraded to get the 255 snapshot limit. I've opened a case on this but was wondering if anyone else has any ideas on what could be going wrong. The client snapshot is fine but the server snapshot has yesterday's contents even though it says it was xfered this morning at 2:05. A directory I created yesterday shows up in the client snapshot but not in the server snapshot. None of the qtrees were updated last night. Thanks, Frank -- Frank Gilmurray Release Engineer Nokia, Inc. phone: (650) 625-2179 313 Fairchild Drive, Blgd. A cell: (650) 892-4029 Mountain View, CA 94043 email: Frank.Gilmurray(a)nokia.com

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R100 vol config for performance
by Mark Bentley 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

I'm already spreading disks in a volume across the 7 SCSI controllers, but I'm wondering if there is also a performance advantage/disadvantage to spreading out the disks in a volume across the three IDE-to-SCSI bridges in each R100 disk shelf? For example, if I wanted to create a volume with 3 disks, would it be better to pick three disks on the same bridge (like 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2) or would it be better to pick three across three bridges (like 3.0, 3.8, and 3.12) ? Or doesn't it make a difference? Thanks, Mark -- Mark Bentley TDG Unix Lab Ops AT&T Wireless Services Phone: 425-580-1667

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RE: Filer's security information
by Kumar, Rahul 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Please sync the time on netapp to the match it to the Samba Machines time. This should solve the error. Rahul Kumar, Infrastructure Analyst, EDS PLM Solutions, Pune, India. Tele: +91-20-2930812 Cell: +00-91-9422087523 Email: rahul.kumar(a)eds.com -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bonnet [mailto:bonnetf@bart.esiee.fr] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 4:18 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Filer's security information Hi I'm STILL trying to use a Samba server 3.0 as a PDC at this point I have the following error message Fri Feb 28 11:42:00 CET [rc:CRITICAL]: CIFS - Filer's security information differs from domain controller. thanks for any infos -- Frank Bonnet

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Filer's security information
by Frank Bonnet 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Hi I'm STILL trying to use a Samba server 3.0 as a PDC at this point I have the following error message Fri Feb 28 11:42:00 CET [rc:CRITICAL]: CIFS - Filer's security information differs from domain controller. thanks for any infos -- Frank Bonnet

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inodes/volumes/mildir/Courier IMAP
by George Kahler 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Hi, I'm about to start a conversion project of our University email system based on mbox folders to Courier IMAP maildir. There are about 50K users using about 250 GB of space on F840 cluster; Netapp version 6.2.2. We have been also told that as of this year each student will keep their account for life, therefore this number will keep on growing. I'm very concern about the number of inodes/files/volume and the filer performance. From all the information I could find some of you said that you get about o one inode for every 32 K o can be increased to as much as 1 inode for every 4 K (maxfiles) There was also some discussion that when you do this, the internal WAFL tables become so huge that it will impact performance. 32 million / 50 K users gives me only about 650 files; this is clearly not enough. Will someone having gone thru this type of a conversion give me some pointers of what to do and what not to do ??? Thanks, George ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Kahler e-mail: george(a)yorku.ca Sr. Systems Administrator humans: (416) 736-2100 x.22699 Computing and Network Services machines: (416) 736-5830 Ontario, Canada, M3J-1P3

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RE: iSCSI Buzz
by Alan McLachlan 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

hmmmm.... I guess so... The value add of SME is high for environments with very large Exchange databases and/or a very large number of mailboxes. If it's only a small Exchange DB and your issue is that you don't want it on a simple local disk, then just getting the iSCSI NIC and configuring a virtual disk on your existing filer is acceptable, and is supportable by Microsoft since it's "local" storage. But you will have to treat backup and restore options in the same manner as a simple local disk. I agree that the price of SME is far to high for small-to-mid size Exchange environments. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Evans [mailto:sevans@foundation.sdsu.edu] Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 5:05 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: iSCSI Buzz So what your saying is SME gives you Exchange snapshots. If you don't care about taking snapshots of your Exchange database then it doesn't matter. Steve Evans SDSU Foundation (619) 594-0653 -----Original Message----- From: Alan McLachlan [mailto:amclachlan@asi.com.au] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:42 PM To: Jeff Burton; Steve Evans Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Steve, iSCSI is NOT a "replacement" for SnapManager for Exchange. iSCSI will let you treat a file on a filer as a block device. There ends its usefulness. In other words, without host-side tools like SnapDrive or SnapManager you aren't any better off than with a dumb local block device (except that writes will be nice and fast due to block indirection). There are three levels of data consistency: 1. Block level - this means that a physical block reported to have been written to disk has or will make it there intact. This is your typical DAS or SAN-level consistency. 2. Filesystem level - this means that all the blocks required for a consistent point-in-time image have been written successfully when the filesystem manger considers this to have been done. SnapDrive is NetApp's volume management plug-in for VLD, iSCSI and FCP "block" devices that manages this on a Windows host where that host is managing a NTFS volume laid down on the virtual block device. What happens is: you tell SnapDrive on the server to take a snapshot - it then tells the windows NTFS filesystem manager not to accept any more file I/O requests and to complete any outstanding I/O (flush writes) - then and only then does it tell the NetApp to take a WAFL-level snapshot of the volume hosting the virtual disk. It then tells the NTFS filesystem manager on the server that it can start processing requests again. If you simply took a NetApp level snapshot of the volume holding the virtual disk, then the image of the virtual disk could internally be in an inconsistent state, similar to a dirty shutdown of the Windows server. 3. Application level - this means that all of the file I/O OR block I/O operations required to keep an applications data files consistent from an application perspective (bearing in mind that the application will be managing outstanding operations in RAM) are completed at the times when the application expects, such as when you shut the application down or when you send a request through it's backup API to backup or restore it's data. Raw iSCSI gives you level 1 consistency only. There is no facility for taking consistent point in time snapshots that you can use for online backups. You can use filer level snapshots if you like, but there's arisk that you won't be able to mount the snapshotted volume without some corruption. SnapDrive gives you level 2 consistency. This is better and works will with databases that have a hot backup mode, like Oracle, or where you don't mind halting the database for a few seconds so that you don't have to deal with log files. To use this with Exchange you still have to manually manger restores with integrity checks etc. SnapManager provides Exchange-specific functions through the Exchange backup API to allow you to use snapshots to manage online backups etc. This gives you level 3 consistency for your Exchange backups as well as super fast restores from snapshots etc. iSCSI is good, but using it by itself is like taking the VLD component of SnapDrive or SnapManager without the rest. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Burton [mailto:burtonj@pprd.abbott.com] Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 8:57 AM To: Steve Evans Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: iSCSI Buzz On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:12:44AM -0800, Steve Evans wrote: > I've been listening to all the iSCSI buzz with NetApp in the news. > From what I've gathered all you need is OnTAP 6.4 and a $700 adapter > for the host server. > > What are people planning on doing with this. I would like to use it > with Exchange 2000 and not purchase the SnapManager for Exchange > option (at $20,000). > > Steve Evans > SDSU Foundation > (619) 594-0653 Per: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/products/iSCSI/ you also need a license for iSCSI, but it sounds like it's free as long as your filer's software support agreement is active. I was surprised to find the license free, so I may be missing something. We do not have any plans to use iSCSI anywhere in our environment anytime soon. I seem to remember Gartner Group stating that iSCSI will not become popular until late 2004 or later. -- ______________________________________________________________ Jeff Burton Storage Architect Abbott Laboratories EMAIL: Jeffrey.Burton(a)Abbott.com Dept. GB16/Bldg. AP9A-LL PHONE: 847-935-5778 100 Abbott Park Rd. FAX: 847-935-0142 Abbott Park, IL 60064-6115 **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE **** **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. 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RE: iSCSI Buzz
by Steve Evans 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

So what your saying is SME gives you Exchange snapshots. If you don't care about taking snapshots of your Exchange database then it doesn't matter. Steve Evans SDSU Foundation (619) 594-0653 -----Original Message----- From: Alan McLachlan [mailto:amclachlan@asi.com.au] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:42 PM To: Jeff Burton; Steve Evans Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Steve, iSCSI is NOT a "replacement" for SnapManager for Exchange. iSCSI will let you treat a file on a filer as a block device. There ends its usefulness. In other words, without host-side tools like SnapDrive or SnapManager you aren't any better off than with a dumb local block device (except that writes will be nice and fast due to block indirection). There are three levels of data consistency: 1. Block level - this means that a physical block reported to have been written to disk has or will make it there intact. This is your typical DAS or SAN-level consistency. 2. Filesystem level - this means that all the blocks required for a consistent point-in-time image have been written successfully when the filesystem manger considers this to have been done. SnapDrive is NetApp's volume management plug-in for VLD, iSCSI and FCP "block" devices that manages this on a Windows host where that host is managing a NTFS volume laid down on the virtual block device. What happens is: you tell SnapDrive on the server to take a snapshot - it then tells the windows NTFS filesystem manager not to accept any more file I/O requests and to complete any outstanding I/O (flush writes) - then and only then does it tell the NetApp to take a WAFL-level snapshot of the volume hosting the virtual disk. It then tells the NTFS filesystem manager on the server that it can start processing requests again. If you simply took a NetApp level snapshot of the volume holding the virtual disk, then the image of the virtual disk could internally be in an inconsistent state, similar to a dirty shutdown of the Windows server. 3. Application level - this means that all of the file I/O OR block I/O operations required to keep an applications data files consistent from an application perspective (bearing in mind that the application will be managing outstanding operations in RAM) are completed at the times when the application expects, such as when you shut the application down or when you send a request through it's backup API to backup or restore it's data. Raw iSCSI gives you level 1 consistency only. There is no facility for taking consistent point in time snapshots that you can use for online backups. You can use filer level snapshots if you like, but there's arisk that you won't be able to mount the snapshotted volume without some corruption. SnapDrive gives you level 2 consistency. This is better and works will with databases that have a hot backup mode, like Oracle, or where you don't mind halting the database for a few seconds so that you don't have to deal with log files. To use this with Exchange you still have to manually manger restores with integrity checks etc. SnapManager provides Exchange-specific functions through the Exchange backup API to allow you to use snapshots to manage online backups etc. This gives you level 3 consistency for your Exchange backups as well as super fast restores from snapshots etc. iSCSI is good, but using it by itself is like taking the VLD component of SnapDrive or SnapManager without the rest. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Burton [mailto:burtonj@pprd.abbott.com] Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 8:57 AM To: Steve Evans Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: iSCSI Buzz On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:12:44AM -0800, Steve Evans wrote: > I've been listening to all the iSCSI buzz with NetApp in the news. > From what I've gathered all you need is OnTAP 6.4 and a $700 adapter > for the host server. > > What are people planning on doing with this. I would like to use it > with Exchange 2000 and not purchase the SnapManager for Exchange > option (at $20,000). > > Steve Evans > SDSU Foundation > (619) 594-0653 Per: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/products/iSCSI/ you also need a license for iSCSI, but it sounds like it's free as long as your filer's software support agreement is active. I was surprised to find the license free, so I may be missing something. We do not have any plans to use iSCSI anywhere in our environment anytime soon. I seem to remember Gartner Group stating that iSCSI will not become popular until late 2004 or later. -- ______________________________________________________________ Jeff Burton Storage Architect Abbott Laboratories EMAIL: Jeffrey.Burton(a)Abbott.com Dept. GB16/Bldg. AP9A-LL PHONE: 847-935-5778 100 Abbott Park Rd. FAX: 847-935-0142 Abbott Park, IL 60064-6115 **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE ****

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RE: iSCSI Buzz
by Alan McLachlan 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

Steve, iSCSI is NOT a "replacement" for SnapManager for Exchange. iSCSI will let you treat a file on a filer as a block device. There ends its usefulness. In other words, without host-side tools like SnapDrive or SnapManager you aren't any better off than with a dumb local block device (except that writes will be nice and fast due to block indirection). There are three levels of data consistency: 1. Block level - this means that a physical block reported to have been written to disk has or will make it there intact. This is your typical DAS or SAN-level consistency. 2. Filesystem level - this means that all the blocks required for a consistent point-in-time image have been written successfully when the filesystem manger considers this to have been done. SnapDrive is NetApp's volume management plug-in for VLD, iSCSI and FCP "block" devices that manages this on a Windows host where that host is managing a NTFS volume laid down on the virtual block device. What happens is: you tell SnapDrive on the server to take a snapshot - it then tells the windows NTFS filesystem manager not to accept any more file I/O requests and to complete any outstanding I/O (flush writes) - then and only then does it tell the NetApp to take a WAFL-level snapshot of the volume hosting the virtual disk. It then tells the NTFS filesystem manager on the server that it can start processing requests again. If you simply took a NetApp level snapshot of the volume holding the virtual disk, then the image of the virtual disk could internally be in an inconsistent state, similar to a dirty shutdown of the Windows server. 3. Application level - this means that all of the file I/O OR block I/O operations required to keep an applications data files consistent from an application perspective (bearing in mind that the application will be managing outstanding operations in RAM) are completed at the times when the application expects, such as when you shut the application down or when you send a request through it's backup API to backup or restore it's data. Raw iSCSI gives you level 1 consistency only. There is no facility for taking consistent point in time snapshots that you can use for online backups. You can use filer level snapshots if you like, but there's arisk that you won't be able to mount the snapshotted volume without some corruption. SnapDrive gives you level 2 consistency. This is better and works will with databases that have a hot backup mode, like Oracle, or where you don't mind halting the database for a few seconds so that you don't have to deal with log files. To use this with Exchange you still have to manually manger restores with integrity checks etc. SnapManager provides Exchange-specific functions through the Exchange backup API to allow you to use snapshots to manage online backups etc. This gives you level 3 consistency for your Exchange backups as well as super fast restores from snapshots etc. iSCSI is good, but using it by itself is like taking the VLD component of SnapDrive or SnapManager without the rest. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Burton [mailto:burtonj@pprd.abbott.com] Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 8:57 AM To: Steve Evans Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: iSCSI Buzz On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:12:44AM -0800, Steve Evans wrote: > I've been listening to all the iSCSI buzz with NetApp in the news. From > what I've gathered all you need is OnTAP 6.4 and a $700 adapter for the > host server. > > What are people planning on doing with this. I would like to use it > with Exchange 2000 and not purchase the SnapManager for Exchange option > (at $20,000). > > Steve Evans > SDSU Foundation > (619) 594-0653 Per: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/products/iSCSI/ you also need a license for iSCSI, but it sounds like it's free as long as your filer's software support agreement is active. I was surprised to find the license free, so I may be missing something. We do not have any plans to use iSCSI anywhere in our environment anytime soon. I seem to remember Gartner Group stating that iSCSI will not become popular until late 2004 or later. -- ______________________________________________________________ Jeff Burton Storage Architect Abbott Laboratories EMAIL: Jeffrey.Burton(a)Abbott.com Dept. GB16/Bldg. AP9A-LL PHONE: 847-935-5778 100 Abbott Park Rd. FAX: 847-935-0142 Abbott Park, IL 60064-6115 **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE ****

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RE: SPARE LOW
by Hill, Aaron 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Have you got spares on the system at the moment? (sysconfig -r) I haven't used an F87, but I assume that if you have a spare drive bay, all you need to do is slot a drive in and the filer will pick it up. The console should output something to you saying the new disk is detected. That said, I have not used anything less than 6.1.2, so things could be different for earlier ONTAP and filer versions. Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bonnet [mailto:bonnetf@bart.esiee.fr] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:54 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: SPARE LOW Hi Each time I reboot my F87 I get a SPARE LOW message does this mean I have to install a new disk as a spare disk to run safely ? If yes where is described the procedure to add a spare disk ? Thanks a lot -- Frank Bonnet

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iSCSI Buzz
by Steve Evans 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

I've been listening to all the iSCSI buzz with NetApp in the news. From what I've gathered all you need is OnTAP 6.4 and a $700 adapter for the host server. What are people planning on doing with this. I would like to use it with Exchange 2000 and not purchase the SnapManager for Exchange option (at $20,000). Steve Evans SDSU Foundation (619) 594-0653

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RE: Volume management through filer view.
by Aldrich David S 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Filer View works fine. Our NT admins use it all the time (You know the people that can only point and click!) Dave Unix Sys Admin -----Original Message----- From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:37 AM To: 'Borders, Rich' Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: RE: Volume management through filer view. Hi, I have not tried it yet. I have some disk and want to create a volume or four, but I am dubious about using FV over the command line and wanted to experiment. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Borders, Rich [mailto:Rich.Borders@netapp.com] Sent: 27 February 2003 14:37 To: Clawson, Simon Subject: RE: Volume management through filer view. > -----Original Message----- > From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:34 AM > To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > > Have any of you ever tried the volume management tools in > filer view? Volume creation etc? It looks pretty easy, but > does it work? So far. Are you seeing issues? > Simon > > Simon Clawson Mentor Graphics > HDL Designer Series R&D Rivergate > Systems Administrator London Road > Berkshire > RG14 2QB > TEL: 01635 811409 Rich

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RE: Volume management through filer view.
by Paul McGuinness (ext. 771) 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Only last week I have created and destroyed some volumes during a filer upgrade, no problems, much better than earlier NetApp Releases versions. I'm currently running on 6.3.1 -----Original Message----- From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] Sent: 27 February 2003 13:34 To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Volume management through filer view. Have any of you ever tried the volume management tools in filer view? Volume creation etc? It looks pretty easy, but does it work? Simon Simon Clawson Mentor Graphics HDL Designer Series R&D Rivergate Systems Administrator London Road Berkshire RG14 2QB TEL: 01635 811409 ************************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential, may be privileged and is intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you are not the intended recipient or a representative of the intended recipient, you have received this e-mail in error and must not copy, use or disclose the contents of this email to anybody else. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete the copy you received. This email has been swept for computer viruses. However, you should carry out your own virus checks. Registered in Ireland, No. 205721. http://www.FINEOS.com **************************************************************************

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RE: Volume management through filer view.
by Clawson, Simon 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi, I have not tried it yet. I have some disk and want to create a volume or four, but I am dubious about using FV over the command line and wanted to experiment. Simon -----Original Message----- From: Borders, Rich [mailto:Rich.Borders@netapp.com] Sent: 27 February 2003 14:37 To: Clawson, Simon Subject: RE: Volume management through filer view. > -----Original Message----- > From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:34 AM > To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' > > Have any of you ever tried the volume management tools in > filer view? Volume creation etc? It looks pretty easy, but > does it work? So far. Are you seeing issues? > Simon > > Simon Clawson Mentor Graphics > HDL Designer Series R&D Rivergate > Systems Administrator London Road > Berkshire > RG14 2QB > TEL: 01635 811409 Rich

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RE: Volume management through filer view.
by julian.jacobs＠bt.com 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi, Yes I've used it. I have created and destroyed some volumes. One problem I've had is changing a snapmirrored volume into a live volume via filer view without using the command line. I also try and use DFM to run commands. It allows our ops bridge a view of what is happening on the filers. Julian Jacobs UNIX Operations Manager BT WebServices Email: julian.jacobs(a)bt.com British Telecommunications plc Registered office: 81 Newgate Street London EC1A 7AJ Registered in England no 1800000 This electronic message contains information from British Telecommunications plc which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us by telephone or email (to the numbers or address above) immediately. -----Original Message----- From: Clawson, Simon [mailto:simon_clawson@mentorg.com] Sent: 27 February 2003 13:34 To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: Volume management through filer view. Have any of you ever tried the volume management tools in filer view? Volume creation etc? It looks pretty easy, but does it work? Simon Simon Clawson Mentor Graphics HDL Designer Series R&D Rivergate Systems Administrator London Road Berkshire RG14 2QB TEL: 01635 811409

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Volume management through filer view.
by Clawson, Simon 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Have any of you ever tried the volume management tools in filer view? Volume creation etc? It looks pretty easy, but does it work? Simon Simon Clawson Mentor Graphics HDL Designer Series R&D Rivergate Systems Administrator London Road Berkshire RG14 2QB TEL: 01635 811409

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SPARE LOW
by Frank Bonnet 27 Feb '03

27 Feb '03

Hi Each time I reboot my F87 I get a SPARE LOW message does this mean I have to install a new disk as a spare disk to run safely ? If yes where is described the procedure to add a spare disk ? Thanks a lot -- Frank Bonnet

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RE: CIFS administration issues
by Muhlestein, Mark 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

You might consider using MultiStore to create multiple virtual servers. Then you could assign different administrators to just the shares you want. Mark -----Original Message----- From: drew.odonnell(a)americas.bnpparibas.com [mailto:drew.odonnell@americas.bnpparibas.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:17 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: CIFS administration issues We have filers, which are used by multiple groups and multiple administrators. We have a situation where administrators are requesting the ability to kick users out of open files. Normally this is done through server manager or through Win2k computer management, however unless the users are added to the power users group on the filer, they are unable to view the files in use (they get an access denied). I do not want to give our entire administrative staff power user access on our filer. In a perfect world I would be able to have the administrators only be able to manage the shares they are responsible. Every solution I have found so far has been an all or nothing solution. I know there are some products, such as Tivoli, but I am looking for other creative solutions to my problem. Thanks Drew

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Ontap 6.4 LDAP + CIFS + SAMBA ?
by Frank Bonnet 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Hi I've installed Ontap 6.4 that now support LDAP auth with openldap :-) Now the new challenge ... We use Samba servers to let windows clients access to their data zone. Actually windows clients use Samba (with LDAP) servers as PDC Home directories are actually NFS mounted from Samba servers. (that is no good I know) What I would like to do from a windows client is : 1 - Use Samba server as PDC 2 - Connect to the filer directly using CIFS after authentication Is it possible ???? Thanks -- Frank Bonnet

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CIFS administration issues
by drew.odonnell＠americas.bnpparibas.com 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

We have filers, which are used by multiple groups and multiple administrators. We have a situation where administrators are requesting the ability to kick users out of open files. Normally this is done through server manager or through Win2k computer management, however unless the users are added to the power users group on the filer, they are unable to view the files in use (they get an access denied). I do not want to give our entire administrative staff power user access on our filer. In a perfect world I would be able to have the administrators only be able to manage the shares they are responsible. Every solution I have found so far has been an all or nothing solution. I know there are some products, such as Tivoli, but I am looking for other creative solutions to my problem. Thanks Drew This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. --------------------------------------------- Ce message et toutes les pieces jointes (ci-apres le "message") sont etablis a l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires et sont confidentiels. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci de le detruire et d'en avertir immediatement l'expediteur. Toute utilisation de ce message non conforme a sa destination, toute diffusion ou toute publication, totale ou partielle, est interdite, sauf autorisation expresse. L'internet ne permettant pas d'assurer l'integrite de ce message, BNP PARIBAS (et ses filiales) decline(nt) toute responsabilite au titre de ce message, dans l'hypothese ou il aurait ete modifie.

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RE: LDAP auth problem with CIFS clients
by Yoder, Alan 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Please open a call with Network Appliance CS. Alan =============================================================== Alan G. Yoder agy(a)netapp.com Technical Staff Network Appliance, Inc. 408-822-6919 =============================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Bonnet [mailto:bonnetf@bart.esiee.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:21 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: LDAP auth problem with CIFS clients > > > Hi > > I'm in trouble with LDAP auth mechanisms > with windows 2000 clients > > here is the trace from the filer console > yfiler> Wed Feb 26 18:05:33 CET [Auth00:info]: NULL user > login accepted from 147.215.1.223 > Wed Feb 26 18:05:33 CET [Auth03:info]: Login attempt by > ESIEE-1\bonnetf from ASTERIX(147.215.1.223) > Wed Feb 26 18:05:33 CET [Auth03:info]: Attempting to map PC > user to UNIX user bonnetf > Wed Feb 26 18:05:33 CET [Auth03:info]: password rejected > > I am SURE of my password ;-) > > The problem occurs even I put the administrative user and passwd > in the ldap.name and ldap.passwd options > > from the LDAP server the request is seen as an anonymous request ... > Openldap 2.0.27 is used. > > Help ! > > Thanks a lot. > -- > Frank Bonnet >

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LDAP auth problem with CIFS clients
by Frank Bonnet 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Hi I'm in trouble with LDAP auth mechanisms with windows 2000 clients here is the trace from the filer console yfiler> Wed Feb 26 18:05:33 CET [Auth00:info]: NULL user login accepted from 147.215.1.223 Wed Feb 26 18:05:33 CET [Auth03:info]: Login attempt by ESIEE-1\bonnetf from ASTERIX(147.215.1.223) Wed Feb 26 18:05:33 CET [Auth03:info]: Attempting to map PC user to UNIX user bonnetf Wed Feb 26 18:05:33 CET [Auth03:info]: password rejected I am SURE of my password ;-) The problem occurs even I put the administrative user and passwd in the ldap.name and ldap.passwd options from the LDAP server the request is seen as an anonymous request ... Openldap 2.0.27 is used. Help ! Thanks a lot. -- Frank Bonnet

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RE: F720 firmware issue
by Dorfner, Richard 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Use a FAT formatted floppy diskette and not a rawwrite copied diskette with the firmware image, then use "update-flash" to have teh f720 copy the firmware into flash. You can go from any OFW image to any other ofw image you wish, this way. Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephane Bentebba [mailto:stephane.bentebba@fps.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:07 AM > To: Geoff Hardin > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: F720 firmware issue > > > Geoff Hardin wrote: > > >I have an F720 that was running OnTAP 5.2.x and I upgraded > it to OnTAP > >6.1. Unfortunately (and there are a couple of these), I > forgot to update > >the motherboard firmware first. Normally not a big deal, > except this F720 > >happens to be in the Phillipines and I'm in Dallas, a 14 hour time > >difference. > > > >Luckily enough, the F720 boots up, but it complains that the > firmware is > >too old and that I should upgrade to 2.3. The latest > firmware available > >is 2.8, but when we tried to update the firmware, we got an > error after > >the program started running: The attempt to load a boot > image failed. It > >then drops back to the ok prompt and the firmware is not updated. > > > >Does anyone know if I have to first update the firmware to > 2.3 and then to > >2.8? It's been a long time since I have had to do this > operation, and I > >don't think it ever covered such a span of versions. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Geoff Hardin > >geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com > >This space is for rent in order to increase company revenue. > > > > > > > > > i guess the data on your floppy was not cleanly written . > either your floppy is defectuous, either the image you downloaded was > corrupted > > try to download the firmware again and use another floppy . and touch > some wood > > > >

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RE: F720 firmware issue
by Paul Hubert 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Can someone tell me how to remove an address from this mailing list. One of our contractors has subscribed and we want to remove him. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Michael J. Carter [mailto:mcarter@lanl.gov] Sent: 26 February 2003 15:09 To: Chris Blackmor Cc: Stephane Bentebba; Geoff Hardin; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: F720 firmware issue Also make sure the floppy isn't in the drive when you boot the filer. The firmware floppy isn't a bootable image. mjc On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 07:12, Chris Blackmor wrote: > Geoff, > I had a similar problem when I created the floppy from a unix system. > Did you create it on a PC formatted floppy. If not, it won't work. > C- > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:07:27PM +0100, Stephane Bentebba wrote: > > Geoff Hardin wrote: > > > > >I have an F720 that was running OnTAP 5.2.x and I upgraded it to OnTAP > > >6.1. Unfortunately (and there are a couple of these), I forgot to update > > >the motherboard firmware first. Normally not a big deal, except this F720 > > >happens to be in the Phillipines and I'm in Dallas, a 14 hour time > > >difference. > > > > > >Luckily enough, the F720 boots up, but it complains that the firmware is > > >too old and that I should upgrade to 2.3. The latest firmware available > > >is 2.8, but when we tried to update the firmware, we got an error after > > >the program started running: The attempt to load a boot image failed. It > > >then drops back to the ok prompt and the firmware is not updated. > > > > > >Does anyone know if I have to first update the firmware to 2.3 and then to > > >2.8? It's been a long time since I have had to do this operation, and I > > >don't think it ever covered such a span of versions. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Geoff Hardin > > >geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com > > >This space is for rent in order to increase company revenue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i guess the data on your floppy was not cleanly written . > > either your floppy is defectuous, either the image you downloaded was > > corrupted > > > > try to download the firmware again and use another floppy . and touch > > some wood > > > > > > -- Michael J. Carter | I suppose that in a few hours I will IT Team Leader | sober up. That's such a sad thought. I Space Data Systems (NIS-3) | think I'll have a few more drinks to Los Alamos National Laboratory | prepare myself. _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com ============================================================ Changes at Miller: Please note our company name is now Miller Insurance Services Limited, and our brand name is simply Miller. Our new web and email addresses are: Web: www.miller-insurance.com E-mail: forename.surname(a)miller-insurance.com Miller Insurance Services Limited Dawson House, 5 Jewry Street, London EC3N 2PJ Tel: +44 (0)20 7488 2345 Registered in England Number 830141 A member of the General Insurance Standards Council This email contains confidential information belonging to the sender which may also be privileged and which is intended for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure or use of the contents or attachment to this email is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please destroy/delete it and notify us immediately. Thank you. ============================================================ _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com

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F720 firmware issue
by Geoff Hardin 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

I have an F720 that was running OnTAP 5.2.x and I upgraded it to OnTAP 6.1. Unfortunately (and there are a couple of these), I forgot to update the motherboard firmware first. Normally not a big deal, except this F720 happens to be in the Phillipines and I'm in Dallas, a 14 hour time difference. Luckily enough, the F720 boots up, but it complains that the firmware is too old and that I should upgrade to 2.3. The latest firmware available is 2.8, but when we tried to update the firmware, we got an error after the program started running: The attempt to load a boot image failed. It then drops back to the ok prompt and the firmware is not updated. Does anyone know if I have to first update the firmware to 2.3 and then to 2.8? It's been a long time since I have had to do this operation, and I don't think it ever covered such a span of versions. Thanks, Geoff Hardin geoff.hardin(a)dalsemi.com This space is for rent in order to increase company revenue.

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snapmirror.conf, destination_filer must be the "hostname"
by Lim, Weng Kiam 26 Feb '03

26 Feb '03

Hi All, Currently I am having production data traffic and snapmirror traffic both using the Gigabit interface: Source Target Filer1-e0 Filer2-e0 (100Base-T) (inactive) Filer1-e4 Filer2-e4 (Gigabit) Had been trying to set a private network using the inactive onboard interface just to do the snapmirror. Existing snapmirror.conf of Filer2 Filer1-e4:vol1 Filer2-e4:vol1 - 0 5,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,21 * 1,2,3,4,5,6 New snapmirror.conf of Filer2 Filer1-e0:vol1 Filer2-e0:vol1 - 0 5,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,21 * 1,2,3,4,5,6 However, the hostname of Filer2 is Filer2-e4 and the snapmirror destination has to be the hostname according to the DPG, meaning I can't have an exclusive 100Base-T for the snapmirror traffic. The error is /etc/snapmirror.conf: line 2 destination filer "Filer2-e0" does not match hostname "Filer2-e4", ignoring line Is there any way to make this work? Thanks Lim

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