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remove .snapshot dir from unwanted top level directory
by Dan OBrien 15 May '03

15 May '03

I created a new top level directory in my volume group (/vol/vol0) some time ago and now want to remove it, but the .snapshot directory contained there in is preventing me from doing so. This is from my admin host system: rm -fr XYZ rm: Unable to remove directory XYZ/.snapshot/nightly.1/ABC: Read-only file system rm: Unable to remove directory XYZ/.snapshot/nightly.2/ABC: Read-only file system rm: Unable to remove directory XYZ/.snapshot/nightly.3/ABC: Read-only file system I was able to remove ABC from XYZ/ Will the snapshots eventually roll out? Do I need to turn something off? Regards, Dan O'Brien, dmobrien(a)lcsi.net Cell: 614-783-4859 Work: 614-476-8473 Home: 740-927-2178 Pataskala, OH

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CIFS Errors
by Rascher, Raymond 15 May '03

15 May '03

We have been getting the message below in our logs for a few months now. It has not caused any issues except for the false alerts. Does anyone know what may cause this error? The Filer is joined to Active Directory, running 6.2.2.D15 logfile server1.gs.com [Watcher_A_nmtopsa13]: May 14 19:58:31 netapps1.gs.com Wed May 14 19:58:32 EDT [netapps1: CIFSAuthen:CRITICAL]: CIFS - Filer's security information differs from domain controller. Ray Rascher Core Windows Infrastructure Goldman, Sachs & Co. 180 Maiden Lane, 10th Floor, New York, NY 10004

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Usage of quota vs. NFS performance ...
by Wilfried Gaensheimer 15 May '03

15 May '03

Hi, we are considering introducing quotas on our filer to prevent the "one user takes it all" situation, that happened several times and made the rest of the crew pretty unhappy. Anyway, before doing that, I would like to check: Is there any "massive" performance degradation to be expected? Could someone out there share their real-life experience? Would be great. Am I right that quotas should have an impact on write, only? And some extra CPU load? We use NFS, Clients are Solaris8. No qtree, just three appr. 400GByte Volumes? Any hint to documentation and common pitfalls is highly welcome. Bye, thanks wilfried -- # Wilfried.Gaensheimer(a)Bingo-ev.DE, +49 841 975181 # # Room to rent ........................................#

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RE: Visual SourceSafe + Filer
by Nail, Larry 15 May '03

15 May '03

No sir, we've got several groups using VSS on CIFS shares -----Original Message----- From: Barry Lustig [mailto:barry-dated-1053387082.a96094@lustig.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 6:31 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Does anyone know if there are any problems with putting the VSS database onto a filer? Are there similar issues to exchange requiring iSCSI or VLD? Thanks, barry

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Visual SourceSafe + Filer
by Barry Lustig 14 May '03

14 May '03

Does anyone know if there are any problems with putting the VSS database onto a filer? Are there similar issues to exchange requiring iSCSI or VLD? Thanks, barry

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Building a working filer from parts [230/330]
by John Kiniston 14 May '03

14 May '03

Howdy! I know the hardware I'm asking about is a little dated but this is for my personal use filer that I'm building: I've got two filer heads, a F230 and a F330, and a StorageShelf2 full of 8 gig disks, My Goal is to make a working filer out of the parts of the F230 and the F330. The F330 powers up fine and came with two PCI SCSI cards, and what I belive is a PCI FDDI card. The F230 does not power on and came with one PCI SCSI card, and a Quad Fast Ethernet Card. Can the Quad Fast Ethernet work from the F230 in the F330? When I insert it and boot the F330 gives me a 'Unsupported Configuration' error with e5a and scsi. I ended up swapping the SCSI card from slot 9 in the 230 to slot 9 in the 330 to hook up the shelf of disks so the 330 now has both a Fast Wide and a Fast Narrow SCSI controller in it. What is the largest disk supported by the 330? Currently I have 7 8.6 gig disks. Does anyone need parts from the 230? Once I get the 330 working I will no longer need the 230 for parts.

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RE: network based console connection
by DFinn＠studentadvantage.com 14 May '03

14 May '03

The only problem with that is you are limited to how many netapps you can connect to a PC. We have 4 netapps, so are there pieces of hardware out there that we could install in a cheap pc that would allow us more console connections? Also, what are the specifications on the cable and connection into the netapp? Is it just a standard console cable? Is it the same as Sun hardware? -----Original Message----- From: Steve Evans [mailto:sevans@foundation.sdsu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 12:51 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: network based console connection Console cable to Unix/Windows server. Telnet/"Terminal Server" to server. Steve Evans SDSU Foundation (619) 594-0653 -----Original Message----- From: DFinn(a)studentadvantage.com [mailto:DFinn@studentadvantage.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:22 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com I think it would be really nice to have something like this setup so that we could get console access to our netapps via the network. I'm curious as to what's available and what other people have setup to accomplish this. The cheaper the better. Thanks Dan

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f940c alternative from EMC ?
by frank marxs 14 May '03

14 May '03

Sorry if this is slightly off topic. Anyone have any experience with an EMC NS 600 [I'm told it's a rather new EMC NAS solution]? I have a client who is considering the NS 600 over a 940 Cluster ... and I don't think the EMC solution is the right one ... but without having any first hand knowledge or having heard much about the NS 600 I can't provide any good arguments why they should avoid it... and I don't want to be called on to pick up the mess afterwards. Any experience or advice [or even simply reasons why you didn't buy it] is much appreciated. Cheers, RHCE, CCNP, CCDP, CNA, "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstein _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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RE: network based console connection
by Rogers, Jamie 14 May '03

14 May '03

I use an annex box, telnet to the annex box and choose the port you want. I can administer it from anywhere. -----Original Message----- From: DFinn(a)studentadvantage.com [mailto:DFinn@studentadvantage.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 12:22 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: network based console connection I think it would be really nice to have something like this setup so that we could get console access to our netapps via the network. I'm curious as to what's available and what other people have setup to accomplish this. The cheaper the better. Thanks Dan

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RE: network based console connection
by Steve Evans 14 May '03

14 May '03

Sure, just get a PC with enough serial ports. Steve Evans SDSU Foundation (619) 594-0653 -----Original Message----- From: DFinn(a)studentadvantage.com [mailto:DFinn@studentadvantage.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:02 AM To: Steve Evans; toasters(a)mathworks.com The only problem with that is you are limited to how many netapps you can connect to a PC. We have 4 netapps, so are there pieces of hardware out there that we could install in a cheap pc that would allow us more console connections? Also, what are the specifications on the cable and connection into the netapp? Is it just a standard console cable? Is it the same as Sun hardware? -----Original Message----- From: Steve Evans [mailto:sevans@foundation.sdsu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 12:51 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: network based console connection Console cable to Unix/Windows server. Telnet/"Terminal Server" to server. Steve Evans SDSU Foundation (619) 594-0653 -----Original Message----- From: DFinn(a)studentadvantage.com [mailto:DFinn@studentadvantage.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:22 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com I think it would be really nice to have something like this setup so that we could get console access to our netapps via the network. I'm curious as to what's available and what other people have setup to accomplish this. The cheaper the better. Thanks Dan

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RE: network based console connection
by John Clear 14 May '03

14 May '03

We use Consever (http://www.conserver.com) to manage the connections to all of our netapps/unix boxes/network gear. Conserver works with just about any serial devices or terminal server hardware. I currently use Digi Etherlites as my terminal servers, but have use Portmasters and plain old serial ports in the past. John -----Original Message----- From: DFinn(a)studentadvantage.com [mailto:DFinn@studentadvantage.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:22 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: network based console connection I think it would be really nice to have something like this setup so that we could get console access to our netapps via the network. I'm curious as to what's available and what other people have setup to accomplish this. The cheaper the better. Thanks Dan

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RE: network based console connection
by Steve Evans 14 May '03

14 May '03

Console cable to Unix/Windows server. Telnet/"Terminal Server" to server. Steve Evans SDSU Foundation (619) 594-0653 -----Original Message----- From: DFinn(a)studentadvantage.com [mailto:DFinn@studentadvantage.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:22 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com I think it would be really nice to have something like this setup so that we could get console access to our netapps via the network. I'm curious as to what's available and what other people have setup to accomplish this. The cheaper the better. Thanks Dan

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RE: f940c alternative from EMC ?
by Toal, Dave 14 May '03

14 May '03

Good question, I'm wondering the same thing; but more from a "pick up the mess afterwards" p.o.v. I discovered in the middle of a fairly large project that the Decision Had Been Made to go with emc's nas h/w. I know this isn't the toasters.emc.die.die.die list, but the info'd be useful. -----Original Message----- From: frank marxs To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: 5/14/03 3:07 AM Subject: f940c alternative from EMC ? Sorry if this is slightly off topic. Anyone have any experience with an EMC NS 600 [I'm told it's a rather new EMC NAS solution]? I have a client who is considering the NS 600 over a 940 Cluster ... and I don't think the EMC solution is the right one ... but without having any first hand knowledge or having heard much about the NS 600 I can't provide any good arguments why they should avoid it... and I don't want to be called on to pick up the mess afterwards. Any experience or advice [or even simply reasons why you didn't buy it] is much appreciated. Cheers, RHCE, CCNP, CCDP, CNA, "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstein _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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f940c alternative from EMC ?
by fmarxs＠hotmail.com 14 May '03

14 May '03

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NAS X Oracle
by Flavio Cardoso 14 May '03

14 May '03

Dear toasters Did Anyone have problems with Filer 760 and Oracle database? Flavio E. Cardoso Engenharia Interchange Serviços S/A Fone: (11) 3067-2376 Fax: (11) 3067-2507

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RE: Error on netapp.
by Yee, Matthew 13 May '03

13 May '03

Check to see if the battery attached to your NVram is still alive. The ram is probably ok. The battery probably died. -----Original Message----- From: dmobrien(a)lcsi.net [mailto:dmobrien@lcsi.net] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 16:17 To: John Enger Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Error on netapp. John Enger writes: > Upon initialising disks my NetApp displays the following: > > NVRAM test failed! > NVRAM offset 0x300040, wrote 0xfe7e8201, got 0x457e8201 Program > terminated ok > > Is my NVRAM defective? Could be. Run standalone diagnostics. I had trouble with my spare parts filer and found that I needed to carefully reseat the NVRAM and then all the problems disappeared. I hope you shutdown cleanly, otherwise you may have scrambled eggs. My spare parts filer lost all its disk information and I had to reload it. Lost everything. You might want to contact NetApp. Regards, Dan O'Brien, dmobrien(a)lcsi.net Cell: 614-783-4859 Work: 614-476-8473 Home: 740-927-2178 Pataskala, OH

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Error on netapp.
by John Enger 12 May '03

12 May '03

Upon initialising disks my NetApp displays the following: NVRAM test failed! NVRAM offset 0x300040, wrote 0xfe7e8201, got 0x457e8201 Program terminated ok Is my NVRAM defective? J.

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F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support
by Helberth Alexis Osorio O. 12 May '03

12 May '03

Hi, anybody remember how many SCSI shelf F85/87 support? Thanks. Helberth Alexis Osorio O. Professional Services Manager Information Technologies de Colombia "INTEK" Teléfono: (57-1)6206370 ext 15 Fax: (57-1)6206365 Celular: (57-315)3108457 Santafé de Bogotá, D.C. Colombia www.intek.com.co STORAGETEK INFORMATION made POWERFUL

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RE: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support
by Clawson, Simon 12 May '03

12 May '03

I thought none, its all self contained and you buy it maxed out, well that's how I read the specs. -----Original Message----- From: Helberth Alexis Osorio O. [mailto:alexis.osorio@intek.com.co] Sent: 12 May 2003 16:12 To: NetApp List (E-mail) Subject: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support Hi, anybody remember how many SCSI shelf F85/87 support? Thanks. Helberth Alexis Osorio O. Professional Services Manager Information Technologies de Colombia "INTEK" Teléfono: (57-1)6206370 ext 15 Fax: (57-1)6206365 Celular: (57-315)3108457 Santafé de Bogotá, D.C. Colombia www.intek.com.co STORAGETEK INFORMATION made POWERFUL

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RE: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support
by Clawson, Simon 12 May '03

12 May '03

My colleague Larry, has played with these boxes a bit more than we have here in the UK, so he may be able to answer a second point - These seem to have gone into EOA Larry. Have you heard anything from Ntap about the future of the workgroup size server line? The one we have just got here seems a nice enough bit of kit for what WE want if to do, and I think there is a definite place for something this size (Despite it being a re-branded Dell) -----Original Message----- From: Breniser, Larry Sent: 12 May 2003 16:57 To: Clawson, Simon; 'alexis.osorio(a)intek.com.co'; NetApp List (E-mail) Subject: RE: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support That is correct. LB -----Original Message----- From: Clawson, Simon Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 8:27 AM To: 'alexis.osorio(a)intek.com.co'; NetApp List (E-mail) Subject: RE: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support I thought none, its all self contained and you buy it maxed out, well that's how I read the specs. -----Original Message----- From: Helberth Alexis Osorio O. [mailto:alexis.osorio@intek.com.co] Sent: 12 May 2003 16:12 To: NetApp List (E-mail) Subject: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support Hi, anybody remember how many SCSI shelf F85/87 support? Thanks. Helberth Alexis Osorio O. Professional Services Manager Information Technologies de Colombia "INTEK" Teléfono: (57-1)6206370 ext 15 Fax: (57-1)6206365 Celular: (57-315)3108457 Santafé de Bogotá, D.C. Colombia www.intek.com.co STORAGETEK INFORMATION made POWERFUL

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RE: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support
by Breniser, Larry 12 May '03

12 May '03

That is correct. LB -----Original Message----- From: Clawson, Simon Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 8:27 AM To: 'alexis.osorio(a)intek.com.co'; NetApp List (E-mail) Subject: RE: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support I thought none, its all self contained and you buy it maxed out, well that's how I read the specs. -----Original Message----- From: Helberth Alexis Osorio O. [mailto:alexis.osorio@intek.com.co] Sent: 12 May 2003 16:12 To: NetApp List (E-mail) Subject: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support Hi, anybody remember how many SCSI shelf F85/87 support? Thanks. Helberth Alexis Osorio O. Professional Services Manager Information Technologies de Colombia "INTEK" Teléfono: (57-1)6206370 ext 15 Fax: (57-1)6206365 Celular: (57-315)3108457 Santafé de Bogotá, D.C. Colombia www.intek.com.co STORAGETEK INFORMATION made POWERFUL

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RE: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support
by Smith, Gil 12 May '03

12 May '03

The NetApp Hardware system configuration guide, http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/hardware/NetApp/syscfg/ is the place to look for this type of question. I found the below: The following table shows the supported types of disk storage shelves and disk drives on the F85. Disk Shelf Disk drives Standard power supply/optional RPS Notes SCSI DiskShelf12 18-GB SCSI (PN: X240A) or 36-GB SCSI (PN: X241A): Maximum of 12 per shelf Maximum of storage support is 648 GB total per F85, including internal drives AC power supply: 460W PN: SP-601 Two power supplies per shelf required. SCSI DiskShelf12 shelves are available in the following configurations: AC power supply: 6x18-GB drives (PN: X676-18-6PK) 12x18-GB drives (PN: X676-18-12PK) 6x36-GB drives (PN: X676-36-6PK) 12x36-GB drives (PN: X676-36-12PK) Last updated: October 24, 2002 -------- The F87 does not support disk storage shelves because it has internal disk storage. -----Original Message----- From: Helberth Alexis Osorio O. [mailto:alexis.osorio@intek.com.co] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 11:12 AM To: NetApp List (E-mail) Subject: F85/F87 SCSI Shelf Support Hi, anybody remember how many SCSI shelf F85/87 support? Thanks. Helberth Alexis Osorio O. Professional Services Manager Information Technologies de Colombia "INTEK" Teléfono: (57-1)6206370 ext 15 Fax: (57-1)6206365 Celular: (57-315)3108457 Santafé de Bogotá, D.C. Colombia www.intek.com.co STORAGETEK INFORMATION made POWERFUL

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AISHA MBANE [ Urgent and confidential ]
by AISHA MBANE 11 May '03

11 May '03

Dear Sir/Mdam, I am extremely sorry for intruding into your privacy by way of this communication to you but please be patient to peruse and digest my proposal as it will be of matual benefit for both of us.It gives me great trust,confidentiality and ethusiasm to make this proposal soliciting your noble assistance in the execution of this business opportubity. My name is Aisha Mbane, a South African and one of the concubines of the late senior Iraqi official in Basra and also a cousin to former President Saddam Hussein of Iraq.He is popularly called Chemical Ali.He was killed by the British/American coalition troop in this war of regime change in Iraq. Few weeks before the war,as it was already cystal clear to the regime that the coalition troop must attack Iraq,Ali Transferred (US$68.5 Million) Sixty-eight million, five hundred thousand dollars to a security and finance company in The Netherlands for safe keeping through their corresponding office in Syria where the money was deposited.This funds was dposited in Syria with my name as co-beneficiary and what make things more interesting is that,I was given custody of all the documents hence its only both of us that knows about this transaction.It was two days to our departure from Iraq through Syria before his death and I decided coming to the Netherlands alone so as to effect the release of this funds from the security and finance company especially as the hunt for all Iraqi senior officials and families in top gear by the coalition forces. I arrived The Netherlands few days back with all the documents relating to this funds immediately and I solicited for political asylum immediately.I never disclosed this transaction to the Netherlands authority because I have been advised by my lawyer that the goverment will confiscate it.I contacted the security and finance company here in the Netherlands and they cofirmed being in possession of the funds but insisted that they cannot approve the funds for me because of my political status.They claimed that political refugees are not entitled to operate a bank accountthat takes more(1.000 euro.) Due to this circumstances,I was asked to introduce a reputable,truswhorty and reliable foreign investor with good religious,political and economic position as beneficiary so as to claim this funds on my behalf and push it into his or her nominated bank account from there,my share will be invested wisely in your country by you or sent to Africa for me. For rendering this assistance,your share will be 35% of the total sum while I will be entitled to 60%.The balance 5% will be for any unforseen lawyer expenses so as to secure the power of arttoney to change the documents,flight and hotels bills during your visit to release the funds with the security and finance company.The balace will be donated to charity homes in Africa. I will refrain from giving out more operational details untill I receive your response.Since time is of great essence to me,reply this letter quickly so as to know what to do,even if this letter does not meet your approval,please inform me.There is no risk involved as I have done my homework with my lawyer who is prepard to help as soon as you respond positively.After response,I will forward the lawyer's telephone number to you so that he can explain the release procedure in detail. Looking forward to hearing from you and may God continue to protect and bless us....AMEN. Yours Sincerely, Aisha Mbane. PLEASE REPLY TO : aishambane(a)netscape.net

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Single-port Ethernet for 1000Base-SX to 1000Base-T
by Dan OBrien 09 May '03

09 May '03

Our F630 filer has a 1000Base-SX card in it that we aren't using. We note that this is a "fiber" Gigabit, but all our other facilities are copper (1000Base-T). Is there an easy (i.e., cheap) way to convert? Regards, Dan O'Brien, dmobrien(a)lcsi.net Cell: 614-783-4859 Work: 614-476-8473 Home: 740-927-2178 Pataskala, OH

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