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"brice" is no longer a valid Certainty Solutions email address
by Bouncer 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

The person you are trying to reach is no longer with Certainty Solutions, Inc. If your email was regarding Certainty Solutions, Inc. business, please redirect your email to info(a)certaintysolutions.com. If you were trying to reach brice directly, the new address is brice(a)bigloops.com. Your original message is included below. Certainty Solutions Postmaster Certainty Solutions, formerly Global Networking and Computing (GNAC). This automated reply was sent by a machine, and any replies to the sender of this message will be automatically ignored. ========================================================================= From toasters(a)mathworks.com Tue Aug 19 19:04:47 2003 Received: from pepe.corp.gnac.com (pepe.corp.gnac.com [192.168.1.21]) by tweety.corp.gnac.com (8.9.3/8.8.5/GNAC-GW-2.1) with ESMTP id TAA25059 for <brice(a)gnac.com>; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: toasters(a)mathworks.com Received: from yosemite.rwc.gnac.net (localhost.main.gnac.com [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by pepe.corp.gnac.com (8.11.0/8.8.7/GNAC-GW-2.1) with ESMTP id h7K24kr20686 for <brice(a)gnac.com>; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yosemite.rwc.gnac.net; id TAA23967; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200308200204.TAA23967(a)yosemite.rwc.gnac.net> Received: from unknown(63.71.92.228) by yosemite.rwc.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma023957; Tue, 19 Aug 03 19:04:21 -0700 To: <brice(a)gnac.com> Subject: Re: Details Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:04:20 --0400 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_174F8993" This is a multipart message in MIME format --_NextPart_000_174F8993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please see the attached file for details. --_NextPart_000_174F8993--

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URGENT ASSISTANCE NEEDED.........FROM MR DOUGLAS SMITH
by DOUGLAS SMITH 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

Dear Friend, As you read this, I dont want you to feel sorry for me, because, I believe everyone will die someday. My name is DOUGLAS SMITH , a merchant in Dubai, in the U.A.E.I have been diagnosed with Esophageal cancer which was discovered very late,due to my laxity in carrying for my health. It has defiled all forms of medicine, and right now I have only about a few months to live, according to medical experts. I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I never really cared for anyone not even myself but my business. Though I am very rich, I was never generous,I was always hostile to people and only focus on my business as that was the only thing I cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know that there is more to life than just wanting to have or make all the money in the world.I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would live my life a different way from how I have lived it. Now that God has called me, I have willed and given most of my properties and assets to my immediate and extended family members and as well as a few close friends. I want God to be merciful to me and accept my soul and so, I have decided to give alms to charity organizations, as I want this to be one of the last good deeds I do on earth. So far, I have distributed money to some charity organizations in the U.A.E, Algeria and Malaysia. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this my self any more. I once asked members of my family to close one of my accounts and distribute the money which I have there to charity organization in Bulgaria and Pakistan, they refused and kept the money to themselves.Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contended with what I have left for them. The last of my money which no one knows of is the huge cash deposit of twenty four million dollars that I have with a security company.I will want you to help me collect this deposit and dispatched it to charity organizations. I have set aside 20% for you for your time and patience.please reply to douglassmith(a)kukamail.com God be with you. MR DOUGLAS SMITH ___________________________________________________ Check-out GO.com GO get your free GO E-Mail account with expanded storage of 6 MB! http://mail.go.com

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Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
by Mail Delivery System 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: support(a)codebelly.com no such address here ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ Return-path: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Received: from [63.71.92.228] (helo=USMIWADM001) by cpanel18.gzo.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19pGAd-0007mm-73 for support(a)codebelly.com; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:45:47 -0500 From: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> To: <support(a)codebelly.com> Subject: Re: That movie Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:45:51 --0400 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_16D0BE0A" Message-Id: <E19pGAd-0007mm-73(a)cpanel18.gzo.com> This is a multipart message in MIME format --_NextPart_000_16D0BE0A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please see the attached file for details. --_NextPart_000_16D0BE0A--

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ScanMail Message: To Sender file blocking settings matched and action taken.
by Administrator＠mathworks.com 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = toasters(a)mathworks.com Recipient(s) = support(a)utopiasystems.com Subject = Thank you! Scanning Time = 08/19/2003 19:25:34 Action on file blocking: The attachment application.pif matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Deleted it.

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failure notice
by MAILER-DAEMON＠sources.redhat.com 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sources.redhat.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <cygwin(a)cygwin.com>: Sorry, something in the body of your message was flagged as indicative of spam. Please change your message and try again. If you are not actually a "spammer", you can add yourself to the cygwin.com "global allow list" by sending email *from*the*blocked*email*address* to: global-allow-subscribe-toasters=mathworks.com(a)cygwin.com This will enable you to send email without being subjected to further spam blocking. If you are actually a spammer then you should think long and hard about the people you are inconveniencing and come to the conclusion that what you are doing is both highly annoying and immoral. Contact cygwin-owner(a)cygwin.com if you have questions about this. (#5.7.2) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Received: (qmail 7802 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2003 21:43:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO USMIWADM001) (63.71.92.228) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2003 21:43:20 -0000 From: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> To: <cygwin(a)cygwin.com> Subject: Re: Approved Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:43:20 --0400 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_NextPart_000_166094D8" This is a multipart message in MIME format --_NextPart_000_166094D8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See the attached file for details --_NextPart_000_166094D8--

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Iplanet messaging running with Filer
by BK LIM 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

Hi fellow toasters, Have anyone ever deploy Iplanet messaging with nfs mount to the filer? Like to share your experience? -Alf _________________________________________________________________ Get 10mb of inbox space with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-sg at only S$36 including GST

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attn.needed
by henri tobby 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

Sir I wish to use this medium to introduce myself and express my Client's desire buy a living house in your country.I am Aaeezie Tobby an Attorney in Nigeria and my client is looking for a trust worhty man that take care of future investments overseas.He is a former Liberian Director Auditing & Accounting Department of Ministry of Defence Headquarters presently on assylum in Nigeria.Bear in mind that it is not only house that he wishes to buy. If you know that you can help,get to me and so that I will give you the necessray information that will enable us to proceed.Once you have contac ted me,you should bear in mind that it should be confidential and private. Aaeezie Tobby. N/B.You shall adequately be compensated financially for whatever service you will render. ____________________________________________________________ Charle con sus amigos online usando CHAT 123 http://www.123.com/sp/chat/section.php?id_section=329

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FW: Firmware corrupt
by Jonathan 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

OK let me spell check and read my email before I send it this time. I had a power outage during a disk firmware upgrade. I now cant get the drives to spin up. Is there a way to force a Firmware upgrade besides the disk_fw_update. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan@burnettenterprises.com] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 1:14 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Firmware corrupt I had a power outage during a upgrade on firmware. (I know UPS is your best friend) Well I know cant get the drives to spin up. Is there a was to force a Firmware upgrade besides the disk_fw_update. Thanks

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WR.tmp files
by steve boyer 17 Aug '03

17 Aug '03

I have noticed an exorbitant amount of files on the filer that look like ~WRxxxxx.tmp. I know these are Microsoft files but how and why are they created and what can I do to remove or stop them from being created. Thanks Steven

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by lll____＠mail.ru 16 Aug '03

16 Aug '03

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PLEASE GET BACK TO ME
by phibrown7 16 Aug '03

16 Aug '03

Dear Sir, RE: Business Relationship. I am an Attorney & consult to Lt Robert Guei Jr., first son and former Chief Security Officer to the late General Robert Guei, the late Ivorien Head of State. My client, who is now on trial for various offences including human rights violations he was alleged to have committed during the rule of his late father. Before his detention he had been able to use his status as the Chief Security Officer to move the sum of US$10 Million as sundry funds to the European Union, and presently deposited in a private Security Company for safe keeping. These boxes of money were airfreighted as Artefacts and photographic materials. My client, because of his present predicament in detention cannot be physically involved in the management of this money. Hence he will do this by way of proxy and fiduciary agent in order to avoid any probe by the present government in Ivory Coast as they have already frozen all his account overseas. I am requesting your assistance as trusted and reliable friend to help secure investment outlets whereby these funds are invested in your country on real estate under your direct supervision. Be aware that you will manage the complete process as our foreign partner. The consignment containing the funds have already being airlifted, and it is awaiting clearance at the security company in the EU. If the above is workable for you, Please send to me as a matter of urgency the following information so that we can commence this project at once; 1. Your full name and address. 2. Your direct telephone and fax numbers. As soon as I receive the above information from you, I will commence with the process of making you the new beneficiary of the funds, after which your name will be forwarded to the security company stating that you are the beneficiary of the consignment in their custody, and that the consignment should be released to you. As soon as the funds are released to you, I will personally come over to your country for us to disburse the funds as already agreed upon. I await your urgent response, hoping that you accept my proposal. You can still reply through my other email address: Best regards, Philiph Brown

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16 Aug '03

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CONGRATULATIONS
by JAMES SWATTS 16 Aug '03

16 Aug '03

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Re: SNMP Returns Negative Value for Network Traffic Stats
by Yee, Steven 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

You're seeing the INTEGER wrap around from positive to negative from traps.dat miscNetRcvdKB snmp.1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.2.0 miscNetSentKB snmp.1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0 and from the 6.3.1 MIB: -- miscNetRcvdKB is DEPRECATED; use miscHighNetRcvdBytes -- and miscLowNetRcvdBytes miscNetRcvdKB OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX INTEGER ACCESS read-only STATUS mandatory DESCRIPTION "The total number of KBytes received on all the network interfaces, since the last boot." ::= { misc 2 } -- miscNetSentKB is DEPRECATED; use miscHighNetSentBytes -- and miscLowNetSentBytes miscNetSentKB OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX INTEGER ACCESS read-only STATUS mandatory DESCRIPTION "The total number of KBytes transmitted on all the network interfaces, since the last boot." ::= { misc 3 } In the old (deprecated) form it was defined as INTEGER which has a positive and negative range which wraps from positive to negative on the wrap-around. In the new variables the 64 bit quantities are split into two (high and low) 32 bit Counters (Counters are positive, always increasing values) You can either do math to accommodate the wraparound to negative (not recommended) or move to the new values and glue the high and low parts together to get a positive 64bit value. steve. former SNMP peon.. > From: "Ed Alexander" <Ed.Alexander(a)renesas.com> > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:50:43 -0700 > To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> > Subject: SNMP Returns Negative Value for Network Traffic Stats > > We use MRTG to monitor filer stats. All has been working well until > mid-day yesterday. Now, SNMP queries for network traffic stats (Kbytes > sent and received) are returning negative numbers. For example: > > [/usr/local/mrtg/filer/bin]# ./snmpget -v 1 yeti public > 1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.2.0 > -79935745 > [/usr/local/mrtg/filer/bin]# ./snmpget -v 1 yeti public > 1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0 > -2057424956 > > What causes this and how do I fix it? The filer is an F820 running > DataOntap 6.3.1. Thanks in advance. > > Ed > > -- > Ed Alexander > Senior Systems Administrator > Renesas Technology America > Design Engineering Center - East > ed.alexander at renesas.com > > > > >

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SNMP Returns Negative Value for Network Traffic Stats
by Ed Alexander 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

We use MRTG to monitor filer stats. All has been working well until mid-day yesterday. Now, SNMP queries for network traffic stats (Kbytes sent and received) are returning negative numbers. For example: [/usr/local/mrtg/filer/bin]# ./snmpget -v 1 yeti public 1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.2.0 -79935745 [/usr/local/mrtg/filer/bin]# ./snmpget -v 1 yeti public 1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0 -2057424956 What causes this and how do I fix it? The filer is an F820 running DataOntap 6.3.1. Thanks in advance. Ed -- Ed Alexander Senior Systems Administrator Renesas Technology America Design Engineering Center - East ed.alexander at renesas.com

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Firmware corrupt
by Jonathan 15 Aug '03

15 Aug '03

I had a power outage during a upgrade on firmware. (I know UPS is your best friend) Well I know cant get the drives to spin up. Is there a was to force a Firmware upgrade besides the disk_fw_update. Thanks

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RE: Networker/NDMP backup problems
by Blake, Delroy 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

I would check media and drives. NDMP backups have one nasty/fatal issue and that is if you get a scsi reset while backups are going on you your drive will re-wind and overwrite your label. (NULL) Networker only writing a small amount of data on a tape is normally when he has had bad media or drive needs some TLC. Both combined I would look at data path and the drive while checking if /var/adm/messages complains about SCSI transport errors or the like. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Musgrove [mailto:matt.musgrove@thales-is.com] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:27 AM To: Toasters Subject: Networker/NDMP backup problems Hello Toasters, I hope someone can help with this; I am having some annoying backup problems. My backup server is prematurely marking tapes as full sometimes with as little as 10 MB written. Also, some tapes have nothing written to them and are rejected by Networker. Errors are reported in /nsr/logs/daemon.log and are reproduced below. Usually the backups succeed after several failed attempts. Environment Networker Version: 6.1.3 Build.428 Backup Server OS: Solaris 8 NDMP Client: Network Appliance F820 OnTap 6.4.1 Library: Qualstar TLS-6430 library with 3 * SDLT320 connected via LVD/SCSI Actions Taken Confirmed installation of Solaris Patch 108725-12 st driver patch Checked on SunSolve that no st.conf update is required for SDLT320 Checked /var/adm/messages - nothing reported. Sent message to Networker discussion group. On advice given set parallelism to 2 (to equal number of NDMP drives) and increased unload sleep from 5 to 180 and load sleep from 50 to 180. This had no affect. Checked NetApp's NOW website - nothing helpful found, submitted case Typical daemon.log demonstrating error tape rejection problem 08/09/03 21:00:36 nsrd: media waiting event: Waiting for 1 writable volumes to backup pool 'NetApp2 Full' tape(s) on ttsnas02-153 08/09/03 21:01:59 nsrd: Jukebox 'qs6430' failed: expected volume 'NetApp2Full.003' got 'NULL'. 08/09/03 21:02:07 nsrd: media info: suggest mounting NetApp2Full.005 (E0011) on ttsnas02-153 for writing to pool 'NetApp2 Full' 08/09/03 21:02:07 nsrd: media info: loading volume NetApp2Full.005 into rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Typical daemon.log demonstrating backup errors 08/06/03 20:30:00 nsrd: savegroup info: starting NetApp-2 (with 1 client(s)) application information: HIST=y, UPDATE=y, DIRECT=y, EXTRACT_ACL=T; auth index: ttsnas02-153; auth index name space: backup, 1; auth level: 5; auth mode: save; auth server: perky; auth ssname: /vol/EMAIL1/data; auth ssname long: /vol/EMAIL1/data; auth sstime: 1060198204; auth sstime 64-bit: 1060198204; client id: \ 6627d4a5-00000004-3e817cda-3e817cd9-00010000-9901040a; groups: NetApp-2; hard session limit: 1; hostname: perky; locale: C; ndmp: Yes; password: ********; remote user: root; save sets: /vol/EMAIL1/data; store index entries: Yes; volume pool: NetApp2 NonFull; 08/06/03 20:30:04 nsrd: media info: suggest mounting NetApp2NonFull.001 (E0006) on ttsnas02-153 for writing to pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' 08/06/03 20:30:04 nsrd: media waiting event: Waiting for 1 writable volumes to backup pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' tape(s) on ttsnas02-153 08/06/03 20:30:05 nsrd: media info: loading volume NetApp2NonFull.001 into rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a 08/06/03 20:31:10 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Verify label operation in progress 08/06/03 20:31:11 nsrmmd #3: ndmp tape bsf failed 08/06/03 20:31:13 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Mount operation in progress 08/06/03 20:31:14 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape bsf failed 08/06/03 20:31:53 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape fsf failed 08/06/03 20:33:32 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape fsf failed 08/06/03 20:35:10 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape fsf failed 08/06/03 20:35:10 nsrd: media info: ndmp fsf failed 08/06/03 20:35:10 nsrd: write completion notice: Writing to volume NetApp2NonFull.001 complete 08/06/03 20:35:21 nsrd: media info: suggest mounting NetApp2NonFull.002 (E0013) on ttsnas02-153 for writing to pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' 08/06/03 20:35:21 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Eject operation in progress 08/06/03 20:36:43 nsrd: media info: loading volume NetApp2NonFull.002 into rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a 08/06/03 20:37:48 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Verify label operation in progress 08/06/03 20:37:49 nsrmmd #3: ndmp tape bsf failed 08/06/03 20:37:51 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a is now write enabled 08/06/03 20:37:51 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Mount operation in progress 08/06/03 20:37:52 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape bsf failed 08/06/03 20:40:31 nsrd: media event cleared: Waiting for 1 writable volumes to backup pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' tape(s) on ttsnas02-153 08/06/03 20:40:31 nsrd: ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data saving to pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' (NetApp2NonFull.002) * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: creating "/vol/EMAIL1/../snapshot_for_backup.16" snapshot. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Using subtree dump * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Date of this level 5 dump: Wed Aug 6 20:38:33 2003. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Date of last level 4 dump: Tue Aug 5 20:58:50 2003. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Dumping /vol/EMAIL1/data to NDMP connection * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: mapping (Pass I)[regular files] * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: mapping (Pass II)[directories] * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: estimated 782668 KB. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Tape write failed. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: DUMP IS ABORTED * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Deleting "/vol/EMAIL1/../snapshot_for_backup.16" snapshot. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ****************************************************************** * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ------ E R R O R ------- * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data Data server halted: Dump aborted. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ****************************************************************** * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ****************************************************************** * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ------ E R R O R ------- * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data Error running backup. status=3 * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ****************************************************************** * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data Error during NDMP backup 08/06/03 20:46:57 savegrp: ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data will retry 5 more time(s) regards Matt Musgrove, Thales Information Systems

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Networker/NDMP backup problems
by Matt Musgrove 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

Hello Toasters, I hope someone can help with this; I am having some annoying backup problems. My backup server is prematurely marking tapes as full sometimes with as little as 10 MB written. Also, some tapes have nothing written to them and are rejected by Networker. Errors are reported in /nsr/logs/daemon.log and are reproduced below. Usually the backups succeed after several failed attempts. Environment Networker Version: 6.1.3 Build.428 Backup Server OS: Solaris 8 NDMP Client: Network Appliance F820 OnTap 6.4.1 Library: Qualstar TLS-6430 library with 3 * SDLT320 connected via LVD/SCSI Actions Taken Confirmed installation of Solaris Patch 108725-12 st driver patch Checked on SunSolve that no st.conf update is required for SDLT320 Checked /var/adm/messages nothing reported. Sent message to Networker discussion group. On advice given set parallelism to 2 (to equal number of NDMP drives) and increased unload sleep from 5 to 180 and load sleep from 50 to 180. This had no affect. Checked NetApps NOW website nothing helpful found, submitted case Typical daemon.log demonstrating error tape rejection problem 08/09/03 21:00:36 nsrd: media waiting event: Waiting for 1 writable volumes to backup pool 'NetApp2 Full' tape(s) on ttsnas02-153 08/09/03 21:01:59 nsrd: Jukebox 'qs6430' failed: expected volume 'NetApp2Full.003' got 'NULL'. 08/09/03 21:02:07 nsrd: media info: suggest mounting NetApp2Full.005 (E0011) on ttsnas02-153 for writing to pool 'NetApp2 Full' 08/09/03 21:02:07 nsrd: media info: loading volume NetApp2Full.005 into rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Typical daemon.log demonstrating backup errors 08/06/03 20:30:00 nsrd: savegroup info: starting NetApp-2 (with 1 client(s)) application information: HIST=y, UPDATE=y, DIRECT=y, EXTRACT_ACL=T; auth index: ttsnas02-153; auth index name space: backup, 1; auth level: 5; auth mode: save; auth server: perky; auth ssname: /vol/EMAIL1/data; auth ssname long: /vol/EMAIL1/data; auth sstime: 1060198204; auth sstime 64-bit: 1060198204; client id: \ 6627d4a5-00000004-3e817cda-3e817cd9-00010000-9901040a; groups: NetApp-2; hard session limit: 1; hostname: perky; locale: C; ndmp: Yes; password: ********; remote user: root; save sets: /vol/EMAIL1/data; store index entries: Yes; volume pool: NetApp2 NonFull; 08/06/03 20:30:04 nsrd: media info: suggest mounting NetApp2NonFull.001 (E0006) on ttsnas02-153 for writing to pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' 08/06/03 20:30:04 nsrd: media waiting event: Waiting for 1 writable volumes to backup pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' tape(s) on ttsnas02-153 08/06/03 20:30:05 nsrd: media info: loading volume NetApp2NonFull.001 into rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a 08/06/03 20:31:10 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Verify label operation in progress 08/06/03 20:31:11 nsrmmd #3: ndmp tape bsf failed 08/06/03 20:31:13 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Mount operation in progress 08/06/03 20:31:14 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape bsf failed 08/06/03 20:31:53 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape fsf failed 08/06/03 20:33:32 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape fsf failed 08/06/03 20:35:10 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape fsf failed 08/06/03 20:35:10 nsrd: media info: ndmp fsf failed 08/06/03 20:35:10 nsrd: write completion notice: Writing to volume NetApp2NonFull.001 complete 08/06/03 20:35:21 nsrd: media info: suggest mounting NetApp2NonFull.002 (E0013) on ttsnas02-153 for writing to pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' 08/06/03 20:35:21 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Eject operation in progress 08/06/03 20:36:43 nsrd: media info: loading volume NetApp2NonFull.002 into rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a 08/06/03 20:37:48 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Verify label operation in progress 08/06/03 20:37:49 nsrmmd #3: ndmp tape bsf failed 08/06/03 20:37:51 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a is now write enabled 08/06/03 20:37:51 nsrd: rd=ttsnas02-153:nrst0a Mount operation in progress 08/06/03 20:37:52 nsrmmd #2: ndmp tape bsf failed 08/06/03 20:40:31 nsrd: media event cleared: Waiting for 1 writable volumes to backup pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' tape(s) on ttsnas02-153 08/06/03 20:40:31 nsrd: ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data saving to pool 'NetApp2 NonFull' (NetApp2NonFull.002) * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: creating "/vol/EMAIL1/../snapshot_for_backup.16" snapshot. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Using subtree dump * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Date of this level 5 dump: Wed Aug 6 20:38:33 2003. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Date of last level 4 dump: Tue Aug 5 20:58:50 2003. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Dumping /vol/EMAIL1/data to NDMP connection * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: mapping (Pass I)[regular files] * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: mapping (Pass II)[directories] * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: estimated 782668 KB. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Tape write failed. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: DUMP IS ABORTED * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data NDMP Service Log: DUMP: Deleting "/vol/EMAIL1/../snapshot_for_backup.16" snapshot. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ****************************************************************** * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ------ E R R O R ------- * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data Data server halted: Dump aborted. * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ****************************************************************** * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ****************************************************************** * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ------ E R R O R ------- * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data Error running backup. status=3 * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data ****************************************************************** * ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data Error during NDMP backup 08/06/03 20:46:57 savegrp: ttsnas02-153:/vol/EMAIL1/data will retry 5 more time(s) regards Matt Musgrove, Thales Information Systems

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URGENT TRANSACTION
by BARRISTER JOHN .MONY( ESQ) 14 Aug '03

14 Aug '03

Attention: Sir, I am Barrister John Mony a Solicitor. I am the Personal Attorney to Mr. John Anderson a foreigner, who was a contractor to Shell Petroleum Development Company in Ghana(SPDC). On the 26th of September 1999, my client, his wife and their three children were involved in a Plane crash on their way to Bongatanga Games Reserve for 2week`s holiday.Unfortunately they All lost their lives in the plane crash, Since then I have made several enquiries to his Embassy and the home address he filled in his file in my office to locate any of his extended relatives, this has also proved unsuccessful. After these several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to use the Internet to locate any member of his family but to no avail, hence I contacted you.I contacted you to assist in repatriating the money and property left behind by my client before they get confiscated or declared unserviceable by the SECURITY & FINANCE HOUSE where this huge deposits were lodged. Particularly, the FINANCE HOUSE where the diseased had an account valued at about US$45M (Fourtyfive million dollars). Conseqently, the bank issued me a notice to provide the next of kin or have the account confiscated. since I have been unsuccessful in locating the relatives for over 4 years now. I seek your consent to present you as the next of kin of the deceased since you are a foreigner so that the proceeds of this account valued at US$45M can be paid to you and I. We shall share the money thus 55% to me and 40% to you, while 5% will be used to re-imburse any expenses that might be incurred on both ends and to service the tax that might incur be in your country. Please i am here in holland as a summer vacation for 3 weeks which they knew i am providing the next kin including the back up documents. I have all the necessary legal documents that can be used to back up any claim we may make. All I require is your honest co-operation to enable us seeing this deal through. I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of the law. Yours Faithfully, Barrister John Mony(Esq). N.B. Please indicate your telephone and fax numbers for easy communication in this mutual transaction.

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Blocking Files
by Paul McGuinness (ext. 771) 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

Hi Toasters, is there any way of blocking certain file types from being saved to my filer. Prime examples: .mpeg, .mp3, .mov F720 DataOnTap 6.3.1 Thanks Paul Mc Guinness Senior Systems Administrator ************************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential, may be privileged and is intended only for the use of the recipient named above. If you are not the intended recipient or a representative of the intended recipient, you have received this e-mail in error and must not copy, use or disclose the contents of this email to anybody else. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and permanently delete the copy you received. This email has been swept for computer viruses. However, you should carry out your own virus checks. Registered in Ireland, No. 205721. http://www.FINEOS.com **************************************************************************

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Re: NDMPcopy and fibre disk shelve file copy.
by Stephane Bentebba 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

ok, sorry, and fanku i learned something today Kennedy, Jeffrey wrote: > Actually, that is exactly what it will do. I had the snapmirror dev > team lead at my previous employer for a day trying to figure out why > backups of snapmirror'd volumes on an R100 were so damn slow. > > > > The block transfer is done similar to the following: > > > > 36gb drive has blocks 1 through 10,000. 144gb drive has blocks 1 > through 80,000. (example numbers only) > > > > snapmirror will transfer all blocks on the first drive of source to > first drive on destination. It realizes there is available space > still on destination drive and transfers second drive in source to > first drive in destination. Given the example numbers it will > transfer the first 7 drives in the source volume to the first drive in > the destination. > > > > This is confirmed by NetApp. Qtree snapmirroring does not behave this > way, only volume snapmirroring. > > > > ~JK > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephane Bentebba > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:25 AM > *Cc:* toasters(a)mathworks.com > *Subject:* Re: NDMPcopy and fibre disk shelve file copy. > > > > snapmirror won't copy data in filing up one disk then another then > another and leave the last disk empty . > new data won't be written only in the last disk > > data are copied and written in all disk in // > therefore all disk would have the same free space > > the only impact on data there is (and it is a good impact) is the > fragmentation that is reduced > reading a file can be made faster because blocks of that file are > contiguous > > Reinoud Reynders wrote: > >You must take attention with snapmirror. When you do a vol snapmirror > >from little disks to larger disks, you can have some problem with > >fragmentation. > >The free space in every disk will not be on the same place on the new > >disks (he will use the new disks sequential to load the old disks so > >that the first disks of your new volume will be totaly full), so it's > >harder to write new data on the same level. This will mean that when > >your source volume and destination volume have almost the same size, > >after migration there is a high change that he will use just one disk of > >your raid group (the last one) for the new data. All your old data is > >writen to the first disks. This can give performance issues. Of course, > >this problem is biger when the source volume is full. > > > >We use QTREE snapmirror, but we are'nt sure that this is better, but we > >hope that it is. But your source data must be in qtree's ofcourse. > > > >Best regards, > > > >Reinoud > >UZ Leuven > > > >Belgium > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Joseph Bishop [mailto:jbishop@jpl.nasa.gov] > >Sent: vrijdag 1 augustus 2003 8:08 > >To: Ngoh, Clarence > >Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> > >Subject: Re: NDMPcopy and fibre disk shelve file copy. > > > >Clarence, > > > >IAre the disks within the same box? If not...then snapmirror is a good > >way to go. You might be able to snapmirror within the same box. > > Performance really depends on how many disks you have in the volume(s) > >and what kind of head (700, 800, 900) that you have. > > > >If you are able to snapmirror, then the down time can be on the order of > >minutes. It has become my favorite method for moving data. I am not > >positive about the source and destination being on the same box though. > > > >Rough numbers though, you could get 60MByte/sec xfer rate on 820s. If > >you are on 960s expect to be on the order of 120MBytes/sec. But then it > >does depend on how many drives in the raid group and volumes. > > > >Joe > > > > > >Ngoh, Clarence wrote: > > > > > >>Hello good toaster folks >> >> >> >>We are planning to move a huge lot of data (> 3.0 T) from our 32 GB >> >>drives to 144 GB. I am carrying out some preliminary information about >> >> >> > > > > >>the quickest path to move the data across - the first option is to use >> >> >> >ndmpcopy > > > >>and the second is to copy it from shelf to shelf over fiber. Since >> >> >> >this is > > > >>a preliminary investigation, can someone please point me to relevant >> >>resources that may be helpful? I am after statistics of transfer >> >> >> >rates > > > >>between the two and perhaps other materials that others have found >> >> >> >useful. > > > >>I have googled and looked through past toaster archives, and most of it >> >> >> > > > > >>is either outdated or lack of relevant information. >> >> >> >>Thanks. >> >> >> >>Clarence. >> >> >> >> >> >>************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** >> >>This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains >> >> >> >information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended > >recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or > >disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from > >your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not > >constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth > >Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. > > > >>************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >-- jetez un oeil ici http://www.sensiva.com/ -- > >-- have a look here http://www.sensiva.com/ -- > > > -- -- jetez un oeil ici http://www.sensiva.com/ -- -- have a look here http://www.sensiva.com/ --

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Filer + OPS with oracle 8.1.7
by ravi 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

Hi toasters, Did anybody tested OPS with filer 8.1.7.????Pls let us know if there is workaround.... thanks in advance __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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RE: NDMPcopy and fibre disk shelve file copy.
by Reinoud Reynders 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

You must take attention with snapmirror. When you do a vol snapmirror from little disks to larger disks, you can have some problem with fragmentation. The free space in every disk will not be on the same place on the new disks (he will use the new disks sequential to load the old disks so that the first disks of your new volume will be totaly full), so it's harder to write new data on the same level. This will mean that when your source volume and destination volume have almost the same size, after migration there is a high change that he will use just one disk of your raid group (the last one) for the new data. All your old data is writen to the first disks. This can give performance issues. Of course, this problem is biger when the source volume is full. We use QTREE snapmirror, but we are'nt sure that this is better, but we hope that it is. But your source data must be in qtree's ofcourse. Best regards, Reinoud UZ Leuven Belgium -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Bishop [mailto:jbishop@jpl.nasa.gov] Sent: vrijdag 1 augustus 2003 8:08 To: Ngoh, Clarence Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: NDMPcopy and fibre disk shelve file copy. Clarence, IAre the disks within the same box? If not...then snapmirror is a good way to go. You might be able to snapmirror within the same box. Performance really depends on how many disks you have in the volume(s) and what kind of head (700, 800, 900) that you have. If you are able to snapmirror, then the down time can be on the order of minutes. It has become my favorite method for moving data. I am not positive about the source and destination being on the same box though. Rough numbers though, you could get 60MByte/sec xfer rate on 820s. If you are on 960s expect to be on the order of 120MBytes/sec. But then it does depend on how many drives in the raid group and volumes. Joe Ngoh, Clarence wrote: >Hello good toaster folks > >We are planning to move a huge lot of data (> 3.0 T) from our 32 GB >drives to 144 GB. I am carrying out some preliminary information about >the quickest path to move the data across - the first option is to use ndmpcopy >and the second is to copy it from shelf to shelf over fiber. Since this is >a preliminary investigation, can someone please point me to relevant >resources that may be helpful? I am after statistics of transfer rates >between the two and perhaps other materials that others have found useful. > >I have googled and looked through past toaster archives, and most of it >is either outdated or lack of relevant information. > >Thanks. > >Clarence. > > >************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** >This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. >************************************************** > > > >

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CIFS setup issue
by drew.odonnell＠americas.bnpparibas.com 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

I have an old 740 I loaded 6.4 on for testing and I cannot seem to join my NT domain. I am running NT 4.0 and I currently have 5 filers running in multiple domains with no issues. I have double-checked WINS entries, DNS and everything I can think of. During CIFS setup the filer actually finds my PDC, through WINS, but fails setup. Here is the log: testna1> cifs setup Enable CIFS access to the filer by a Windows(tm) PC Your filer is visible to all systems using WINS. The WINS name servers currently configured are: 10.110.10.5 Do you want to modify this list? [no]: This filer is currently configured as a NTFS-only filer. Do you want to configure this filer as a Multiprotocol filer? [no]: This filer is currently a member of the Windows Workgroup 'WORKGROUP' Do you want to delete the existing filer account information? [no]: yes The default name of this filer will be 'TESTNA1'. Do you want to modify this name? [no]: CIFS supports three types of user authentication: 1. Windows Domain authentication. 2. Windows Workgroup authentication using the filer's user accounts. 3. /etc/passwd and/or NIS/LDAP based authentication. What type of authentication will this filer use? [1]: 1 The filer will use Windows Domain authentication. Enter the Windows Domain for the filer []:MYDOMAIN CIFS cannot find MYDOMAIN in DNS, and so must assume that this is not a Windows 2000 domain. If you continue with setup, this filer will attempt to join MYDOMAIN as an NT4 server. Do you wish to continue and join MYDOMAIN in NT4 mode? [yes]: CIFS - Connecting filer to the NT4 domain. Wed Aug 6 15:29:07 GMT [rc:info]: Starting DC address discovery for MYDOMAIN Wed Aug 6 15:29:07 GMT [rc:info]: Starting WINS queries. Wed Aug 6 15:29:07 GMT [rc:info]: Found 3 BDC addresses through WINS. Wed Aug 6 15:29:07 GMT [rc:info]: Found 1 PDC addresses through WINS. Wed Aug 6 15:29:08 GMT [rc:info]: DC address discovery for MYDOMAIN complete. 3 unique addresses found. Wed Aug 6 15:29:08 GMT [nbns_timer:info]: All CIFS name registrations complete for local server Wed Aug 6 15:29:20 GMT [rc:warning]: Cannot get DC name: Timed out waiting for reply. CIFS - Primary Domain Controller must be active for installation. CIFS local server is shutting down... CIFS local server has shut down... testna1> This message and any attachments (the "message") is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. --------------------------------------------- Ce message et toutes les pieces jointes (ci-apres le "message") sont etablis a l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires et sont confidentiels. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci de le detruire et d'en avertir immediatement l'expediteur. Toute utilisation de ce message non conforme a sa destination, toute diffusion ou toute publication, totale ou partielle, est interdite, sauf autorisation expresse. L'internet ne permettant pas d'assurer l'integrite de ce message, BNP PARIBAS (et ses filiales) decline(nt) toute responsabilite au titre de ce message, dans l'hypothese ou il aurait ete modifie.

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BCS ZCS benchmarking statistical data
by steve＠hq.newdream.net 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

I'm looking for any type of data that supports whether BCS drives perform better/worse than ZCS drives. In particular, I'd like to see benchmark read/write performance on F760 filers (using ONTAP 6.3.1R1) with FC9 volumes of purely 36GB ZCS or 36GB BCS drives and also volumes of purely 72GB ZCS or 72GB BCS. I looked through the NOW pages but couldn't find anything along these lines. It seems netapp has moved in the direction that all their newer/larger disks tend to be BCS(520) only or am I mistaken? If thats the case then where is the data to show why BCS is better than ZCS. Aside from the fact that you loose a slight amount of disk space on BCS drives what are the pluses? Is there less CPU overhead one way or another? Thanks, Steve

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