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Any news?
by John Enger 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

A while ago we had a debate on lisencing of NetApp software for non commercial/hobbyist use. We had a very promesing conclusion that the lisence system needed reviewing. I was wondering if there is any news regarding this? John

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RE: Spares Kits
by Borders, Rich 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Wanna talk to a sales person? :) Richard D Borders Filer Escalations Engineer RTP, North Carolina USA - Network Appliance, Inc. Email: rborders(a)netapp.com Phone: (919) 993-5866 > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Tomasi [mailto:chuck.tomasi@plexus.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:49 PM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Spares Kits > > I've got a few sites that need spares kits for their F720s. > Any clue where I can pick up such items? (CPU and FC8/FC9 > shelf spares) > > --Chuck > >

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Spares Kits
by Chuck Tomasi 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

I've got a few sites that need spares kits for their F720s. Any clue where I can pick up such items? (CPU and FC8/FC9 shelf spares) --Chuck

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very slow download ...
by Frank Bonnet 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hi I am upgrading a F87 to 6.4.2 and it seems very slooooow to perform the "download" command ... ( not finished yet after 20 minutes ...) any infos/ideas welcome ! thanks -- Frank Bonnet

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How many spares? Best way to use extras?
by pdunkin＠lucent.com 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Our F760 has 6 shelves and 42 36GB drives (running Data OnTAP 6.3.3 if that matters). Four volumes have been configured, with one RAID group in each volume; two have eight disks each, one has seven, and one that is mostly inactive archived stuff has four disks. That leaves fifteen (count 'em, 15) spares. All the volumes except the archive are at or near 90% of capacity, a point at which I understand performance starts to plummet, and the storage needs of the users of the three active volumes continue to increase. What is the optimal way to make use of the oversized pool of spares? Thoughts I've had: - Create a new volume, put new projects there, and maybe move some projects over from existing volumes, so everyone who needs it has room to grow. - Add disks to the existing volumes gradually as needed, to keep capacity under 90%. If I do this, is it better to add new disks one at a time or several at once? Is going over 90% really a problem, or is that just unfounded rumor? Other suggestions are welcome. Also, how many spares would it be appropriate to keep as spares? I've been told that one per shelf would be enough, but some postings in the archives indicate that that may be on the generous side. Thanks! -- Patricia Dunkin Lucent Technologies pdunkin(a)lucent.com 600 Mountain Avenue 3C-306C Phone: 908-582-5843 Murray Hill, NJ 07974-0636 Fax: 908-582-3662 Pager: 888-371-8506 Mailto: 8883718506(a)skytel.net

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RE: How many spares? Best way to use extras?
by Hill, Aaron 24 Sep '03

24 Sep '03

Hey, toasters has been quiet lately, good to see some solid technical discussion on the agenda! The 90% issue. I have only ever seen it degrade performance from an application/user perpective when the volume is holding database device files and being pounded. For flat files that don't change much, I wouldn't stress. If you have large snapshots for say, snapmirror, then I wouldn't go above 80% just in case. Adding disk? Without sounding like a Netapp salesman, "the more the better". Never add one disk at a time. The rule is 3 minimum to provide better striping. Add one and you could see a significant performance hit as that disk thrashes away. NOW has more details on this. From a pure technical design and efficiency perspective, I like Jim's suggestion. If you can afford the disk, keep vol0 small and sacred, if you can't, then there is no reason why not to use the space. The major caveat is the full volume backups and restores. I would do some careful calculations based on what I know about my backup solution. If your daily data changes are large and your backup windows small, you will have some backup problems. Even though double disk failure is extremely rare as Jim points out, if you have SLA's that specify a strict full restore window for that volume AND the volume DOES die ............. I hope your restores are fast. Get your ducks lined up before you shoot with this one. I don't think backing out of the 1 volume will be as easy as going into it. Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harm [mailto:jharm@llnl.gov] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2003 3:03 AM To: pdunkin(a)lucent.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: How many spares? Best way to use extras? Let's start a warm thread. My two cents is to: 1. build a ten disk raid from the 16 spares and set raid size to 9+1 2. migrate one of your eight disk raid/volumes to it as a qtree 3. destroy unused eight disk/volume 4. build another ten disk raid from left overs and previous volume 5. add this raid to the previous ten disk raid/volume to make big volume 6. migrate the next eight disk raid/volume to big volume as another qtree 7. continue to destroy old raids and migrate old to new volume as qtrees 8. when you are done you should have one big volume of four 10 disk raids and two hot spare disks. I've had two disks fail on one system once in 4+ years and that was during the disk firmware upgrade that only temporarily failed them (had to power cycle). We have had several TB of data on NetApp filers at this sight over that period. Use qtrees for all your exports to control space usage instead of building several volumes/raid strategies. It's simpler and more flexible. You can reapportion the space with little pain and no raid or volume reconfigures just by changing quotas. Some may say "Whoa, you have to have a separate root volume!" I say "Baloney!. The only time I came close to losing a root volume was in the infancy of NetApp; we did have to reboot and use a different volume as root volume (I had copied the /etc to the non-root volume) because of a problem with the wack program, but even then we recovered the volume. Another concern might be that "We're afraid the root volume will get full!" which you can easily avoid by judicious and simple quotas. The only other thing I can think of is the time it takes to back up and restore by volume size. At 11:56 AM -0400 9/23/03, Patricia A. Dunkin wrote: >Our F760 has 6 shelves and 42 36GB drives (running Data OnTAP >6.3.3 if that matters). Four volumes have been configured, with >one RAID group in each volume; two have eight disks each, one has >seven, and one that is mostly inactive archived stuff has four >disks. That leaves fifteen (count 'em, 15) spares. > >All the volumes except the archive are at or near 90% of >capacity, a point at which I understand performance starts to >plummet, and the storage needs of the users of the three active >volumes continue to increase. > >What is the optimal way to make use of the oversized pool of >spares? Thoughts I've had: > >- Create a new volume, put new projects there, and maybe move > some projects over from existing volumes, so everyone who > needs it has room to grow. > >- Add disks to the existing volumes gradually as needed, to keep > capacity under 90%. If I do this, is it better to add new > disks one at a time or several at once? Is going over 90% > really a problem, or is that just unfounded rumor? > >Other suggestions are welcome. Also, how many spares would it be >appropriate to keep as spares? I've been told that one per shelf >would be enough, but some postings in the archives indicate that >that may be on the generous side. > >Thanks! >-- >Patricia Dunkin Lucent Technologies >pdunkin(a)lucent.com 600 Mountain Avenue 3C-306C >Phone: 908-582-5843 Murray Hill, NJ 07974-0636 >Fax: 908-582-3662 Pager: 888-371-8506 Mailto: 8883718506(a)skytel.net -- }}}===============>> LLNL James E. Harm (Jim); jharm(a)llnl.gov System Administrator, ICCD Clusters (925) 422-4018 Page: 423-7705x57152 ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. 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non root volume etc was Re: How many spares? Best way to use extras?
by Jim Harm 23 Sep '03

23 Sep '03

When I backed up the root /etc directory from root volume to non-root volume, I did use rsync. About 2 years ago, that operation started crashing the filers because when some sensitive files were removed in preparation for replacement, the filer would crash and reboot even though it was a non-root volume that was being changed. I stopped rsync'ing and have not restarted that practice. We currently back up the /etc directories on all our filers to other systems. There may be someone on the list that can testify as to whether NetApp has made the non-root volumes more forgiving when it comes to /etc files being changed and removed. I didn't follow it for lack of time. At 1:59 PM -0400 9/23/03, devnull(a)adc.idt.com wrote: > > Some may say "Whoa, you have to have a separate root volume!" >> I say "Baloney!. >> The only time I came close to losing a root volume was in the infancy >> of NetApp; we did have to reboot and use a different volume as root volume >> (I had copied the /etc to the non-root volume) >Did you update your /RootVolume/etc/ to /NoneRootVolume/Another_etc_dir >daily using rsync ? Or was it a one time copy thingie ? > >I am quite sure i want to do this on my filers, there has been some >discussion on this list suggesting that it might not work. It has for you >and so any pointers are MUCH appareciated. > >> Another concern might be that "We're afraid the root volume will get full!" >> which you can easily avoid by judicious and simple quotas. >Agreed. > >> The only other thing I can think of is the time it takes to back up and >> restore by volume size. >Very true. > >If backup is done via nfs rather than NDMP, it might not be an issue >though. > > >Thanks -- }}}===============>> LLNL James E. Harm (Jim); jharm(a)llnl.gov System Administrator, ICCD Clusters (925) 422-4018 Page: 423-7705x57152

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reinit quota ?
by Frank Bonnet 23 Sep '03

23 Sep '03

Hi Is there a way to purge the quota database on a F87 running 6.4.1 , or bring the quotas off/on is sufficient ? I suspect some troubles in the quota table but I'm not 100% sure Thanx -- Frank Bonnet

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ASSISTANCE!!!
by MARTINS JOHN 20 Sep '03

20 Sep '03

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by Peter Obaze 19 Sep '03

19 Sep '03

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RE: Running Postgresql with db on Netapp
by Blake, Delroy 19 Sep '03

19 Sep '03

What are the specs on your PC? Say you have an ATA 100 controller and a drive with 8MB ram you can probably get hit a 30MB/s transfer rate while if you are doing nfs over 100 BASET the best you can hope to do is 12MB/s. If you have a PCI 64/66 or PCI-X bus in You may hit transfer rates of over 50-60MB/S with GE in both filer and PC. When your PC needs to read and write data he just does it he does not have to create IP traffic every time. That means he has to do a little more work to transfer using jumbo frames will free up some of this overhead. Its an option to consider. You might also want to dd a 1 GB file over the network using different block size to see what performance you get. -----Original Message----- From: 'Aditya ' [mailto:aditya@grot.org] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:04 PM To: Maxwell Reid Cc: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com ' Subject: Re: Running Postgresql with db on Netapp On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:41:28PM -0700, Maxwell Reid wrote: > Is it possible to install a Gigabit adapter in the *BSD box and > filer? That alone will probably give you a good performance boost... > Switching to udp probably won't improve things, but using Gbe and > jumbo frames will do wonders. I'd consider that, however I'm having a hard time believing that a PC a *stinkeen* plain-ol-IDE drive is doing better than my filer. I can blame (in order of cost of upgrade): - a configuration mistake - mount options - filer options - network hardware - nfs - pc hardware - postgresql and I'm slowly working my way down that list...(grin) I suspect that folks running Oracle/Informix with a filer aren't seeing more than a 10% performance reduction, otherwise very few would opt to do it, so I suspect that it works, it works well and I must be missing something... Thanks, Adi

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RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz)
by Hill, Aaron 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

At another organisation I used mrtg to monitor my snapshot levels and gauge how snapmirror was running. Combined with the network stats it was pretty damn good. I use DFM here, much easier to use and definitely makes managing large numbers of volumes/qtrees/filesystems easier. But then you gotta buy another license..... -----Original Message----- From: barrie_spence(a)agilent.com [mailto:barrie_spence@agilent.com] Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2003 12:45 AM To: JasonT(a)plumtree.com; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) We graph CIFS and NFS server operation rates (using the least significant 32-bits of the SNMP counter) and connected CIFS shares. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Truong [mailto:JasonT@plumtree.com] Sent: 15 September 2003 23:32 To: Sto Rage !; Ziller, Frank; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) What are people monitoring on their NetApps with mrtg? Just curios cause I only use MRTG to graph the network traffic. I did think about using it for CPU/disk space but I currently use Nagios for that. I am sure others on this list will have good uses for MRTG on their NetApps....anyone care to share? Thanks, Jason T. -----Original Message----- From: Sto Rage ! [mailto:Net_Backer@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:09 PM To: Ziller, Frank; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) Is there a benefit installing this version of MRTG package instead of using the newer standard mrtg and add your own configs to it? We have the standard build of MRTG (being used to monitor other network related stuff too) to which we added NetApp configs to pull data. What extra info (that's not available with snmp) does this application provide? I think this package is now outdated. Comments? -G ----- Original Message ----- From: Ziller, Frank <mailto:FZiller@IKON.com> To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:28 PM Subject: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) Has anyone successfully installed the filer-mrtg application (downloaded off now.netapp.com) on Red Hat 7.3 or Red Hat 9. It looks like I am having some problems with either\both perl and mrtg parsing data collected in the mrtg-filer-stats.sh shell script. See below. [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# /opt/nasmrtg/bin/mrtg-filer-stats.sh 10.10.18.21 password + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + PORT=password + USER= + PASSWD= + MRTG_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + MRTG_BIN=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + BASE_WORKDIR=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor + CONF=/opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg + INDEX_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor/10.10.18.21/index.html + TITLE=Filer statistics for '10.10.18.21' + REGEX=10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/bin/retrieve-filer.sh 10.10.18.21 + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + FILER_ASCII_PORT= + USERNAME= + PASSWD= + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/gnu/bin:/opt/nasmrtg/bin: + export PATH + DATA_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/data/retrieve-filer-10.10.18.21.dat + GNU_EGREP= + RCMD=rsh + echo 'Name: 10.10.18.21' + retrieve-cpu.pl 10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/mrtg /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg Array found where operator expected at (eval 177) line 1, at end of line * Problem with '1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.2.0&1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:public@10.10.18.21': syntax error at (eval 177) line 1, near "1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:" + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/indexmaker /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg 'Filer statistics for '\''10.10.18.21'\''' 10.10.18.21 + exit 0 [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# Thanks, Frank _________ Frank Ziller IKON Network Center IKON The Way Business Gets Communicated 5755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Norcross, GA 30092 678.728.0601 fax: 678.547.2190 email: fziller(a)ikon.com <mailto:fziller@ikon.com> ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. **************************************************

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RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz)
by barrie_spence＠agilent.com 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

We graph CIFS and NFS server operation rates (using the least significant 32-bits of the SNMP counter) and connected CIFS shares. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Truong [mailto:JasonT@plumtree.com] Sent: 15 September 2003 23:32 To: Sto Rage !; Ziller, Frank; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) What are people monitoring on their NetApps with mrtg? Just curios cause I only use MRTG to graph the network traffic. I did think about using it for CPU/disk space but I currently use Nagios for that. I am sure others on this list will have good uses for MRTG on their NetApps....anyone care to share? Thanks, Jason T. -----Original Message----- From: Sto Rage ! [mailto:Net_Backer@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:09 PM To: Ziller, Frank; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) Is there a benefit installing this version of MRTG package instead of using the newer standard mrtg and add your own configs to it? We have the standard build of MRTG (being used to monitor other network related stuff too) to which we added NetApp configs to pull data. What extra info (that's not available with snmp) does this application provide? I think this package is now outdated. Comments? -G ----- Original Message ----- From: Ziller, Frank <mailto:FZiller@IKON.com> To: toasters(a)mathworks.com <mailto:toasters@mathworks.com> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:28 PM Subject: filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz) Has anyone successfully installed the filer-mrtg application (downloaded off now.netapp.com) on Red Hat 7.3 or Red Hat 9. It looks like I am having some problems with either\both perl and mrtg parsing data collected in the mrtg-filer-stats.sh shell script. See below. [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# /opt/nasmrtg/bin/mrtg-filer-stats.sh 10.10.18.21 password + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + PORT=password + USER= + PASSWD= + MRTG_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + MRTG_BIN=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + BASE_WORKDIR=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor + CONF=/opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg + INDEX_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor/10.10.18.21/index.html + TITLE=Filer statistics for '10.10.18.21' + REGEX=10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/bin/retrieve-filer.sh 10.10.18.21 + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + FILER_ASCII_PORT= + USERNAME= + PASSWD= + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/gnu/bin:/opt/nasmrtg/bin: + export PATH + DATA_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/data/retrieve-filer-10.10.18.21.dat + GNU_EGREP= + RCMD=rsh + echo 'Name: 10.10.18.21' + retrieve-cpu.pl 10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/mrtg /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg Array found where operator expected at (eval 177) line 1, at end of line * Problem with '1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.2.0&1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:public@10.10.18.21': syntax error at (eval 177) line 1, near "1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:" + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/indexmaker /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg 'Filer statistics for '\''10.10.18.21'\''' 10.10.18.21 + exit 0 [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# Thanks, Frank _________ Frank Ziller IKON Network Center IKON The Way Business Gets Communicated 5755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Norcross, GA 30092 678.728.0601 fax: 678.547.2190 email: fziller(a)ikon.com <mailto:fziller@ikon.com>

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RE: Running Postgresql with db on Netapp
by Maxwell Reid 16 Sep '03

16 Sep '03

Hi Aditya, Is it possible to install a Gigabit adapter in the *BSD box and filer? That alone will probably give you a good performance boost... Switching to udp probably won't improve things, but using Gbe and jumbo frames will do wonders. Regards, max -----Original Message----- From: Aditya To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Sent: 9/15/2003 2:57 PM Subject: Running Postgresql with db on Netapp Hi, We've been running Postgresql (7.2.x) on FreeBSD with the database files on a Netapp F85. The mounts are NFSv3/TCP with no special tuning on the filer or client. This is a single db server accessing the database on a rw mount so there are no traditional filesystem locking problems (AFAIK). We seem to have hit a performance wall (vs. a linux box with local IDE drive) and I've been reading the various whitepapers on the NetApp website about Oracle/Informix and filers and started to follow the recommendations: - checked that all interfaces on nfs client/switch/filer are 100baseTX-FD - turned minra on, which made the filer slightly more responsive but nothing spectacular - changed the mount options to include -w=32768,-r=32768 with no perceptible difference (also increased it to 65536 for both r and w with no change) - turned fsync off in Postgres (yes, I know it's risky, but I'm trying to figure out why this is so borked) - unlike solaris there is no "direct access" mode in FreeBSD to prevent the NFS client from caching which is 2x as wasteful since the db is also caching You can see the general performance stats (which are matched by "human perception" testing) for this filer ever since we turned on a heavy-duty application last Thursday: http://dev.zapatec.com/website/internal/stats/netapp/zilch.pr.zapatec.co m/ and the various tweaking described above hasn't made much of a difference as you can see from the graphs (5 minute averages). current sysstat snapshot is pretty consistent and looks like this: zilch> sysstat 1 CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 9% 1450 0 0 1324 3726 3392 0 0 0 0 8% 1744 0 0 1323 3863 3916 0 0 0 0 10% 1588 0 0 1539 3617 3048 0 0 0 0 9% 1940 0 0 2251 3149 3140 4 0 0 0 8% 1718 0 0 401 3750 3288 2816 0 0 0 10% 1440 0 0 2327 3253 3504 0 0 0 0 9% 1648 0 0 2052 3504 3308 0 0 0 0 10% 1425 0 0 1625 3459 3172 0 0 0 0 8% 1709 0 0 1925 3167 3184 0 0 0 0 Any suggestions or hints of what to try other than don't run a db over NFS if you want performance: http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2000-December/000072.html After all, I presume that Oracle and Informix using a filer are doing well enough that people stick with the filer? Thanks, Adi This electronic message, along with any attachments, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any proprietary information or intellectual property contained in this transmission remains the sole and exclusive property of Marshall & Swift or Marshall & Swift/Boeckh. No right to use any products or services described in this transmission is valid without an executed and paid license agreement. If you received this in error, please reply to advise the sender and delete the material from any computer.

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filer-mrtg (filer.mrtg.tar.gz)
by Ziller, Frank 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Has anyone successfully installed the filer-mrtg application (downloaded off now.netapp.com) on Red Hat 7.3 or Red Hat 9. It looks like I am having some problems with either\both perl and mrtg parsing data collected in the mrtg-filer-stats.sh shell script. See below. [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# /opt/nasmrtg/bin/mrtg-filer-stats.sh 10.10.18.21 password + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + PORT=password + USER= + PASSWD= + MRTG_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + MRTG_BIN=/opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + BASE_WORKDIR=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor + CONF=/opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg + INDEX_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/monitor/10.10.18.21/index.html + TITLE=Filer statistics for '10.10.18.21' + REGEX=10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/bin/retrieve-filer.sh 10.10.18.21 + SERVER=10.10.18.21 + FILER_ASCII_PORT= + USERNAME= + PASSWD= + FILER_STATS_HOME=/opt/nasmrtg + PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/gnu/bin:/opt/nasmrtg/bin: + export PATH + DATA_FILE=/opt/nasmrtg/data/retrieve-filer-10.10.18.21.dat + GNU_EGREP= + RCMD=rsh + echo 'Name: 10.10.18.21' + retrieve-cpu.pl 10.10.18.21 + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/mrtg /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg Array found where operator expected at (eval 177) line 1, at end of line * Problem with '1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.2.0&1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:public@10.10.18.21': syntax error at (eval 177) line 1, near "1.3.6.1.4.1.789.1.2.2.3.0:" + /opt/nasmrtg/mrtg-bin/indexmaker /opt/nasmrtg/conf/10.10.18.21.cfg 'Filer statistics for '\''10.10.18.21'\''' 10.10.18.21 + exit 0 [root@atl01-lnx-75 bin]# Thanks, Frank _________ Frank Ziller IKON Network Center IKON The Way Business Gets Communicated 5755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Norcross, GA 30092 678.728.0601 fax: 678.547.2190 email: fziller(a)ikon.com <mailto:fziller@ikon.com>

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Running Postgresql with db on Netapp
by Aditya 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Hi, We've been running Postgresql (7.2.x) on FreeBSD with the database files on a Netapp F85. The mounts are NFSv3/TCP with no special tuning on the filer or client. This is a single db server accessing the database on a rw mount so there are no traditional filesystem locking problems (AFAIK). We seem to have hit a performance wall (vs. a linux box with local IDE drive) and I've been reading the various whitepapers on the NetApp website about Oracle/Informix and filers and started to follow the recommendations: - checked that all interfaces on nfs client/switch/filer are 100baseTX-FD - turned minra on, which made the filer slightly more responsive but nothing spectacular - changed the mount options to include -w=32768,-r=32768 with no perceptible difference (also increased it to 65536 for both r and w with no change) - turned fsync off in Postgres (yes, I know it's risky, but I'm trying to figure out why this is so borked) - unlike solaris there is no "direct access" mode in FreeBSD to prevent the NFS client from caching which is 2x as wasteful since the db is also caching You can see the general performance stats (which are matched by "human perception" testing) for this filer ever since we turned on a heavy-duty application last Thursday: http://dev.zapatec.com/website/internal/stats/netapp/zilch.pr.zapatec.com/ and the various tweaking described above hasn't made much of a difference as you can see from the graphs (5 minute averages). current sysstat snapshot is pretty consistent and looks like this: zilch> sysstat 1 CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 9% 1450 0 0 1324 3726 3392 0 0 0 0 8% 1744 0 0 1323 3863 3916 0 0 0 0 10% 1588 0 0 1539 3617 3048 0 0 0 0 9% 1940 0 0 2251 3149 3140 4 0 0 0 8% 1718 0 0 401 3750 3288 2816 0 0 0 10% 1440 0 0 2327 3253 3504 0 0 0 0 9% 1648 0 0 2052 3504 3308 0 0 0 0 10% 1425 0 0 1625 3459 3172 0 0 0 0 8% 1709 0 0 1925 3167 3184 0 0 0 0 Any suggestions or hints of what to try other than don't run a db over NFS if you want performance: http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2000-December/000072.html After all, I presume that Oracle and Informix using a filer are doing well enough that people stick with the filer? Thanks, Adi

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NFS performances with Samba server ?
by Frank Bonnet 15 Sep '03

15 Sep '03

Hi Due to lack of Samba PDC support by Netapp filers I use a Samba server working with NFS on a Filer. That is Windows clients access to users's data thru the samba server. I need to boost a bit NFS access from samba server to Netapp filer, actually I use NFS over TCP and I wonder if using it over UDP will accelerate a bit ? Any infos / tricks welcome PS : the filer is plugged to the LAN over a Giga-ethernet link Thanks -- Frank Bonnet Responsable Reseau et Sytemes UNIX Groupe ESIEE Paris

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URGENT
by collinsodowa2＠katamail.com 13 Sep '03

13 Sep '03

From:DR.COLLINS ODOWA 40 WOODALE ST. EAST LONDON, SOUTH AFRICA. E-MAIL:[collinsodowa2@katamail.com] l am a financial consultant based in eastlondon SOUTH AFRICA .l have a client (a widow)she has $10,500,000USD with a private equity investment trust company for safekeeping. And she is willing to offer you 20% of the total fund if you can assist her transfer this fund tO your country or any bank of your wish.She wishes to invest in a stable economy. Her interest is in companies with potentials for rapid growth in long terms. My client is interested in placing part of her fund in your company,if your country`s bi-laws allows foreign investment. You can contact me for more details via my e-mail address or fax with your reference. Yours faithfully, DR.COLLINS ODOWA E-MAIL:collinsodowa2@katamail.com [please reply me withthis e-mail address] N:B The fund is free from drug and laundering related offences and this transaction need.

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RE: volume disk space
by Alan McLachlan 12 Sep '03

12 Sep '03

Marcus, WAFL "steals" 10%; this loss is inherent in the file system design. Think about how you lose up to 12% of your free space for the MFT on an NTFS volume; same thing on WAFL except it isn't allocated as a contiguous chunk like the MFT - rather the space is used dynamically to allow the filesystem to function properly. regards, Alan. -----Original Message----- From: Bui, Marcus [mailto:Marcus.Bui@aiminvestments.com] Sent: Friday, 12 September 2003 8:09 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: volume disk space I created a volume on F880c, ONTAP 6.4.1, with CIFS as follows: 37 - 72GB disk Raid group size = 14 with 3 Raid groups No snapshot snapshot reserve = 0 But in Filerview the volume space shows 1.98TB and 'df -g' shows 2031GB. I thought the volume space should be 2.257TB (34 data disks x 66.385GB). Map to the volume from a Windows client and it shows 1.98TB. Why am I missing a lot of disk space? cheers, Marcus Bui **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE ****

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volume disk space
by Bui, Marcus 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

I created a volume on F880c, ONTAP 6.4.1, with CIFS as follows: 37 - 72GB disk Raid group size = 14 with 3 Raid groups No snapshot snapshot reserve = 0 But in Filerview the volume space shows 1.98TB and 'df -g' shows 2031GB. I thought the volume space should be 2.257TB (34 data disks x 66.385GB). Map to the volume from a Windows client and it shows 1.98TB. Why am I missing a lot of disk space? cheers, Marcus Bui

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Bank order
by nicholas ngony 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

FOREIGN EXCHANGE DEPARTMENT. AMALGAMATED BANK OF SOUTH AFRICA NORTHERN PROVINCE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA I am the manager of Bill and Exchange at the Foreign Remittance Department of ABSA BANK.I got your email adress while searching for trustworthy contries and individuals. In my department we discovered an abandoned sum of $ 105m US dollars. In an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer who just died in Iraqi war in Baghdad.It is therefore upon this discovery that I and other officials in my department now decided to make this businness proposal to you and release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and we don't want this money to go into the Bank treasury as unclaimed Bill.The Banking law and guideline here stipulates that if such money remained unclaimed after two years, the money will be transfered into the Bank treasury as unclaimed fund. The request of foreigner as next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner and a South African cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner. We agree that 30 % of this money will be for you as foreign partner, in respect to the provision of a foreign account, 10 % will be set aside for expenses incured during the business and 60 % would be for me and my colleagues. There after I and my colleagues will visit your country for disbursement accoding to the percentages indicated. Therefore to enable the immediate transfer of this fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relations or next of kin of the deceased indicating your bank name, your bank account number, your private telephone and fax number for easy and effective communication and location where in the money will be remitted.Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or email the text of the application. I will not fail to bring to your notice that this transaction is hitch free and that you should not entertain any atom of fear as all required arrangements have been made for the transfer . Your's faithfully DR. NICHOLAS NGONY Bill and exchange managing Director, ABSA Bank, South Africa _______________________________________________________________________ Cool Connection, Cool Price, Internet Access for R59 monthly @ WebMail http://www.webmail.co.za/dialup/

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BUSINESS PROPOSAL
by DAVID MUTASA 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

Dear Sir/Madam, Difficulties encountered in efforts to establish a business abroad necessitate this search for someone to assist me in securing and investing the sum of USD23, 000.000 (twenty three million dollars) inherited from my father's business reserve. I am the heir of a Zimbabwean family; my father was an agriculturist. He became rich from his old-aged investment in agriculture and later was victimized by President Robert Mugabe's land reform policy. He was assassinated by unknown gunmen for defending his land ownership and siding the minority white farmers. Before his death, my father foresaw the insecurity of both our lives and property then decided to deposit the above sum with a private finance and security firm in Europe. This money has become the only inherited property of our family since our home was burnt, and the farmlands and machines seized; yet the government and it's loyalists are bent on making life difficult for us. To summarise this traumatic story, my mother and I have decided to offer 15% of the above sum to anyone who assists us to secure this funds overseas or 25% share for possible help on investing in any reliable venture. If you would want to proceed under these terms, please reply for detailed information. If you do not accept my offer, please in good fate treat with utmost confidentiality. A quick reply with your name, telephone and fax numbers for more confidential communication will be highly appreciated, To this email box; (davidmutasa(a)netscape.net) Sincerely yours, David Mutasa

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highly confidentail
by pius chukwu 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL Sir, I strongly believe that this message would come to youas a surprise. In fact, it is in respect of the strict confidencegiven to me that you are honest and versatile in business that motivated My interest to seek your co-operation on atransaction.My father is late Chief James Chuks.He was thechairman of Nigeria Petroleum Monitoring Committee (NPMC). Sadly, he died afterillness on October 2000 and he wasburied in our hometown on November17th, 2000.As you might have known, petroleum is the majorrevenue source in Nigeria. My fathermade a lot of money through the job but could notinvest the money immediatelyto avoid probe by the then military government. Hewas able to save the sum of$32,000,000.00(Thirty Two Million United StatesDollars). He deposited this sum with asecurity firm. The documents used in thesedepositions, together with the key of the safe, are with my mother. In my father�s will, he instructed that this moneymust be invested overseas with the help of a foreigner who is reliable and trustworthy, so asto avoid probe by the federal government of Nigeria since he was a civil servant andcould not have amassed such wealth legally. Consequently, I now seek for yourco-operation. I will like you to come down to Nigeria so that we can open adomiciliary account with your name here in Nigeria and then youcan deposit the money into the domiciliary account for transfer to anyforeign account which you will provide. You and I will then travel to your country togetherfor the sharing of the money. My mother and me have agreed to give 25%of the total sum to you while 70% will be forMe and my mother, then, the remaining 5% will be usedto offset the bills incurred in the Course of the transfer. If you can�t come down down to Nigeria, we can stillimprovise another means ofTransferring this money into your foreign account. Thanks Pius Chukwu --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

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Data ONTAP Simulator - New Version Released
by Meyer, Brad 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

We have posted a new version of the Data ONTAP Simulator for Linux on the NOW site. You can find it at http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/simulator. This new version has a much improved installation process that accommodates most versions of RH Linux, including version 9. Other features included in this release are: - Full documentation installation choice - Upgrading process from previous versions of the simulator - Session logging - Easier cluster installs - Easier disk creation - Ability to create disks on different "interfaces" to help with SyncMirror simulation - Improved documentation - Downloadable .ISO CDROM image file for direct CDROM burning This is a volunteer project within NetApp and no official support for the simulator is provided. However, if you have questions about the simulator you can send an email to xdl-simulator(a)netapp.com and we'll do our best effort to answer your questions. You can also post questions and view answers at the Data ONTAP Simulator Forum on the NOW site at: http://forums.netapp.com/showcategory.asp?cid=172. Please check out the new version of the Data ONTAP Simulator for Linux and let us know what you think. Thanks, Brad Meyer

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Anti-virus question
by mike.sphar＠Remedy.COM 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same minor issues I'm having with the anti-virus solution. The problem I'm encountering, is that much of the time when I get a virus alert that the netapp and Trend have prevented a virus infection, I can't find any way to tell what the source of the infection was. From Trend's perspective, all the viruses are found on the scan server, so all my alerts from Trend look like this: Warning! Virus activity has been detected. { Machine: [MTVESS8TAV02] Product: [ServerProtect for Windows NT] Virus: [PE_ELKERN.D] From: [srvprotect] To: [srvprotect] Action Result: [Clean Success] Virus Found Time [2003/09/09 10:09:05] } Mtvess8tav02 is one of my netapp virus scan servers. I've found that sometimes, in the Netapp's message log, I'll find messages identifying the source of the infection like this: Fri Aug 15 01:24:14 PDT [rpc_0:warning]: CIFS: Virus scanner 10.40.231.71 completed a scan on modified file foo for client 10.40.36.37 (BENDER) as user ntbuild but returned the following status: [0x3e8] and status message: Virus Found! Unfortunately, I don't always get messages in the Netapp's log. I had a batch of Elkern infection notices today, for example, but there's nothing in the Netapp's log to indicate the possible source of the infection. Primarily, I'm most concerned with the AV software catching infected files on my server, but secondarily it would be helpful if it gave me some clues as to who the infection source is. I know right now I have an Elkern-infected machine out there, but no clue as yet who it is. Has anyone else found solutions to this issue? Some settings I'm not aware of, perhaps? -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Remedy, a BMC Software Company

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