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RE: Default units for quotas in 6.4.2P6
by Ehrhart, Rick 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

It is reported as burt 106031. The workaround is to explicity specify 'K'. - Rick - > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Thompson [mailto:cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:17 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Default units for quotas in 6.4.2P6 > > > We have just upgraded from 6.3.3 to 6.4.2P6 (now it is "GA") and > suffered a nasty consequence. If an entry in /etc/quotas doesn't > specify any of "K", "M" or "G" for the limit, e.g. > > 261 user@/home 81920 4000 > > then the units are taken to be bytes rather than (as before, since > time immemorial) kilobytes. In the example the limit becomes 80 KB > rather than 80 MB. > > We have a daily useradmin job that runs overnight, and among other > things builds a new /etc/quotas from another data source and then > does a "quota resize". Our users weren't too happy to have all > their quotas divided by 1024 in one swell foop... I have added > an explicit "K" now, of course. > > All the documentation I can find still claims that "The default > for the disk limits and warning threshold is kilobytes", so maybe > this is a bug. Or maybe it will be reclassified as a feature when > NetApp get around to updating the documentation. Anyway, it's > something anyone upgrading ought to beware of. > > Chris Thompson > Email: cet1(a)cam.ac.uk >

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Re: Tape Backups
by Dan Nowak 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Thank you for your quick response. I appreciate the reply and advice. However, I am under certain restraints in that there is no wish or desire to purchase any new software and the only stated purpose for the tape backups is for disaster recovery purposes. I was hoping to find out what would be the most efficient way to do multiple volume backups so that I could determine the most efficient way in which to label and record the contents of the tapes. Thanks!!! Dan At 10:04 AM 12/16/2003, Andrew Siegel wrote: >You will grow old fast waiting for restores done from raw >NetApp dumps. The entire tape must be scanned. This can take >hours, or even days for multi-volume dumps. Most modern backup >utilities can directly position the tape to the point where >the data occurs. > >We use Reliaty Backup (formerly Workstation Solutions Quick Restore, >soon to be Oracle Backup) and we couldn't be happier. We barely >survived two years of Veritas Netbackup, and we evaluated a few >other products before finding Reliaty. > >They were acquired by Oracle recently, and they are in flux. >The current web site is: http://otn.oracle.com/deploy/availability/Reliaty > >-- >Andrew Siegel >Head of Systems >Blue Sky Studios, Inc. >44 South Broadway, 17th floor >White Plains, NY 10601 >914-259-6336 direct >914-259-6500 main >914-259-6499 fax >abs(a)blueskystudios.com > > >Dan Nowak wrote: > >>All, >>As I am fairly new to Network Appliances, I would like your opinions on >>the best method for backing up a larger system. I am using a spectralogic >>245 tape jukebox in stacker mode. I am trying to backup two separate >>volumes in utilizing a no-rewind device. As we are only in the testing >>mode, there is currently not that much data to back up, however when in >>full production, we fully expect a 1000+ users with a disk quota of 1 >>gig. We are not using any third party application such as Veritas or >>Legato Networker and are only using the dump and restore commands and the >>options associated with them. The NetApp documentation really is not that >>informative and I thought maybe some of the more experienced users out >>there may have some helpful suggestions. >>Thank you in advance for any advice, >>Dan >> >

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Unusual Disk Activity
by Blake Folgner 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Hello fellow Toaster Users, Last night I notice that our F760 got a bit sluggish for the very first time. We are running 6.2.1R1D5. Around 1:00 when the scrub started the disk utilization went up to around 9600bB/s and no more than 300NFS ops and practically no network traffic. After the scrub completed it found no errors or problems with any of the disks. Here is a out put of a sysstat CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 12% 52 0 0 13 12 1938 418 0 0 0s 14% 55 0 0 13 11 2705 327 0 0 0s 13% 34 0 0 8 8 2915 194 0 0 0s 18% 55 0 0 11 9 3612 161 0 0 0s 10% 18 0 0 4 3 2400 102 0 0 0s 17% 80 0 0 17 14 3371 189 0 0 0s 15% 106 0 0 24 22 2459 538 0 0 0s 14% 39 0 0 11 16 1787 569 0 0 0s 17% 65 0 0 15 22 2680 448 0 0 0s 13% 54 0 0 14 16 1740 544 0 0 0s 16% 54 0 0 11 15 2521 430 0 0 0s 17% 90 0 0 19 22 2178 627 0 0 0s 15% 62 0 0 18 27 1984 697 0 0 0s 13% 50 0 0 12 15 1990 397 0 0 0s As you can see there is practically no network traffic and very low ops. Something that dose have me a bit confused is the Cache Age... there is none? This system has been online for 400 days, 11:40 2000225709 NFS ops and I think it might just be time for a reboot. But before I reboot the system I wanted to check with fellow users to see if this is an DOT bug or just a common netapp twitch. Thanks for your help and advice. Best regards, Blake Folgner

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12 Dec '03

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12 Dec '03

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multipathing with a Solaris client
by Kerry Herschel 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

Hi, We connected a FAS940 to a SAN fabric. We have a Solaris client that has 2 HBAs connected to the SAN switch. I would like to setup multipathing to the FAS940. It appears from the documentation and from our NetApp rep that multipathing requires Veritas DMS (dynamic multipathing software). Has anyone setup multipathing on a Solaris client to a NetApp device without Veritas? We've tried mpxio and it doesn't seem to work. Has anyone tried Disk Suite or any other solution? Thanks for any input, Kerry Herschel ================================================================ Margaret.K.Herschel(a)jpl.nasa.gov ICIS Jet Propulsion Laboratory Phone 818.354.1111 DISCLAIMER: The personal and professional opinions presented herein are my own and do not, in any way, represent the opinion or policy of JPL.

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Snapshot reserve management
by Brian Tao 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

I think most any Netapp admin has been in this situation: you set aside a chunk of disk space for your snapshot reserve. After a week goes by, you see that the reserve is at 150% of allocation. You manually delete some snapshots until it falls back under 100%, and adjust the snap schedule. A few months go by, new applications are rolled in and old ones retire. Snapshot usage has also increased, but you are at a loss to pinpoint the exact cause of the higher data turnover rate. What do people do to shed more light on this kind of situation? I'd love to be able to conclude "It is the files in /vol/vol0/myapp/data that are chewing up the most snapshot space" or "It is the write activity coming from NFS client myhost1 that is causing the most block turnover". I think I asked this question about five years ago and did not discover an adequate solution back then. I'm hoping someone might be able to share their expertise on this problem now. ;-) -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't"

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10 Dec '03

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RE: Snapshot reserve management
by Hill, Aaron 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

At on stage, I ran into this frequently with large databases & batch processing areas combined with snapmirror across an inadequate WAN pipe. Expert internal advice and intimate knowledge of the database rebuild & batch scheduling matrix still only provided partial knowledge of which block changes were coming from where. Various nfsstat scripting/logging helped identify which servers were committing the most nfs ops, but there was not much we could do about it even with that information. Management involved the snapshot deletion method, some late nights, temporary bandwidth upgrades and ultimately some disk purchases. None of it could be honestly described as prevention. This has changed in my current environment. We currently use 2 tools; DataFabric Manager - our "project" areas a split into hundreds of qtrees that can be monitored individually. Any large usage increases/decreases in a particular area can be pinpointed. Intermine Filecensus - With this we can quantify file/folders that have been created/modified/accessed. Filecensus can even be configured to scan snapshot areas if you want to compare between snapshot and current content. I must note that we do not really have the same snapshot problem in the current environment. But I can see how DFM and Filecensus output could be produced to help track down "paths" that are making the largest contributions to filesystem change. Hope I have added more answers than questions! Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Brian Tao [mailto:taob@risc.org] Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2003 2:10 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Snapshot reserve management I think most any Netapp admin has been in this situation: you set aside a chunk of disk space for your snapshot reserve. After a week goes by, you see that the reserve is at 150% of allocation. You manually delete some snapshots until it falls back under 100%, and adjust the snap schedule. A few months go by, new applications are rolled in and old ones retire. Snapshot usage has also increased, but you are at a loss to pinpoint the exact cause of the higher data turnover rate. What do people do to shed more light on this kind of situation? I'd love to be able to conclude "It is the files in /vol/vol0/myapp/data that are chewing up the most snapshot space" or "It is the write activity coming from NFS client myhost1 that is causing the most block turnover". I think I asked this question about five years ago and did not discover an adequate solution back then. I'm hoping someone might be able to share their expertise on this problem now. ;-) -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob(a)risc.org) "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ************** This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. **************************************************

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Netapp F760
by mikka makka 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

Hi all, I've inherited a Netapp F760, with two FC9 shelves (7x36 GB FC disks). I noticed some discussion earlier on this list about Netapp having a "hobbyist" program, whereby home users could get software updates and license keys for unsupported machines. (Mine is working fine, but only has NFS licensed -- I'd like to experiment with CIFS, HTTP, etc.) Does anyone have any more details about this? I searched the Net but was unable to find any specific information, other than that various people seem to have successfully gotten hobbyist license keys from their Netapp reps. (I don't have a Netapp rep, since I am only a home user). Also, my unit has two broken disks -- one was bad when I got it, and another failed (urk) shortly thereafter. I am curious whether I can simply take a new, empty Seagate ST136403FC disk -- this is the same model number as those in the system now, remove the failed disk from the drive carrier, and swap in the new one? That is, is there anything special about a NetApp-spec disk (special firmware maybe, or something prewritten on the disk, or whatever) that differentiates it from a generic Seagate disk, and would therefore prevent me from using it in the system? If so, is there any workaround? Thanks a lot for any info, Mikkamakka _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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F760 SCSI, Single-ended or Differential
by Harold White 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Greetings, I just noticed that my F760 displays, what I believe to be, its on-board external SCSI port as "Fast/Wide, Single-ended" F760> sysconfig -v NetApp Release 6.4R1: Thu Mar 13 22:59:45 PST 2003 .... slot 0: SCSI Host Adapter 0b (Qlogic ISP 1040B, <ONLINE>) Fast/Wide, Single-ended Firmware Version 4.66.00 Clock Rate 60MHz. 4: Tape: Quantum DLT7000 245F 5: Tape: Quantum DLT7000 245F ..... I am/was under the impression that it was a Fast/Wide Differential (on-board) SCSI controller. I have 2 DLT7000 drives connected to the Filer ... and they are absolutely differential (2 drives from a Sun L1000). My Veritas Datacenter software keeps down'ing one of my drives and I have just ignored it due to time constraints plus the fact that I had/have one good drive still working. But now that I am trying to troubleshoot the problem, I do not know if the problem is that I have been lucky that a "Single-ended" filer controller has been providing me good backups to my differential (one) tape drive? (Is that even supposed to work at all?) Can anyone confirm that the output (sysconfig -v) of a F760 "Single-ended" is correct or incorrect? That is, is the on-board external SCSI port a differential or single-ended SCSI port and the "sysconfig -v" message is right or wrong? Regards, Harold White Covaro Networks

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RE: difference between iFCP/FCIP/ iSCSI/FCP
by Michael Schipp 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Hi Prashant, http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid5_gci834321,00.html Check the link above for a good overview on iFCP (Internet Fibre Channel Protocol). Thank you Michael A Schipp ASI Solutions IT LAN/WAN Administrator Phone : 02 9384 8095 Mobile : 0402 907 928 E-Mail : mschipp(a)asi.com.au Visit us at http://www.asi.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Prashant Desai [mailto:pressy_sun@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 8 December 2003 11:49 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: difference between iFCP/FCIP/ iSCSI/FCP Hi all i am a newbie to storage industry but would like to change my newbie lable , i was going through a doc but got confused with following emerging technologies and protocols can some one explain me whats the difference between 1) FCP 2) iscsi 3) FC/IP and 4) iFCP as per my understand FCP and ISCSI is a replacement of each other means FCP works by encapsulating scsi in to the fiber channel where as iscsi works by encapsulating scsi into IP i also understands that FC/IP is used to bridge multiple SAN's which are geographically saperated using a traditional IP network by encapsulating fiber channel frames within TCP , but please let me know what iFCP its function , and i am very intrested in knowing is it possible to replace any of these protocols with the other one ? i mean do they provide options for each other ? or for some other purpose ? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

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difference between iFCP/FCIP/ iSCSI/FCP
by Prashant Desai 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Hi all i am a newbie to storage industry but would like to change my newbie lable , i was going through a doc but got confused with following emerging technologies and protocols can some one explain me whats the difference between 1) FCP 2) iscsi 3) FC/IP and 4) iFCP as per my understand FCP and ISCSI is a replacement of each other means FCP works by encapsulating scsi in to the fiber channel where as iscsi works by encapsulating scsi into IP i also understands that FC/IP is used to bridge multiple SAN's which are geographically saperated using a traditional IP network by encapsulating fiber channel frames within TCP , but please let me know what iFCP its function , and i am very intrested in knowing is it possible to replace any of these protocols with the other one ? i mean do they provide options for each other ? or for some other purpose ? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Great Ideas to Advance Your Career
by Net-Temps, Inc. 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

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RE: F760 SCSI, Single-ended or Differential
by David Dalby 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hi, Possibly a bug or reporting difference between DOT 6.4.x and earlier versions. I see a number of pre 6.4.x boxes showing ... slot 0: SCSI Host Adapter 0b (Qlogic ISP 1040B) Fast/Wide, Differential Firmware Version 4.65 Clock Rate 60MHz. I/O base 0xae00, size 0x100 memory mapped I/O base 0x9beee000, size 0x1000 whilst 6.4.x versions are reporting .... slot 0: SCSI Host Adapter 0b (Qlogic ISP 1040B, <ONLINE>) Fast/Wide, Single-ended Firmware Version 4.66.00 Clock Rate 60MHz. I/O base 0xaf00, size 0x100 memory mapped I/O base 0x84200000, size 0x1000 Rgds Dave -----Original Message----- From: Harold White [mailto:harold.white@covaro.com] Sent: Saturday, 6 December 2003 3:51 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: F760 SCSI, Single-ended or Differential Greetings, I just noticed that my F760 displays, what I believe to be, its on-board external SCSI port as "Fast/Wide, Single-ended" F760> sysconfig -v NetApp Release 6.4R1: Thu Mar 13 22:59:45 PST 2003 .... slot 0: SCSI Host Adapter 0b (Qlogic ISP 1040B, <ONLINE>) Fast/Wide, Single-ended Firmware Version 4.66.00 Clock Rate 60MHz. 4: Tape: Quantum DLT7000 245F 5: Tape: Quantum DLT7000 245F ..... I am/was under the impression that it was a Fast/Wide Differential (on-board) SCSI controller. I have 2 DLT7000 drives connected to the Filer ... and they are absolutely differential (2 drives from a Sun L1000). My Veritas Datacenter software keeps down'ing one of my drives and I have just ignored it due to time constraints plus the fact that I had/have one good drive still working. But now that I am trying to troubleshoot the problem, I do not know if the problem is that I have been lucky that a "Single-ended" filer controller has been providing me good backups to my differential (one) tape drive? (Is that even supposed to work at all?) Can anyone confirm that the output (sysconfig -v) of a F760 "Single-ended" is correct or incorrect? That is, is the on-board external SCSI port a differential or single-ended SCSI port and the "sysconfig -v" message is right or wrong? Regards, Harold White Covaro Networks **** ASI Solutions Disclaimer **** The material transmitted may contain confidential and/or privileged material and is intended only for the addressee. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender and destroy any copies of the material immediately. ASI will protect your Privacy according to the 10 Privacy Principles outlined under the new Privacy Act, Dec 2001. This email is also subject to copyright. Any use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. E-mails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. **** END OF MESSAGE ****

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Snapvault error messages
by Michel GELDENHUYS 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hello Toasters, Does anyone know how to suppress this kind of messages from the log ? Sat Dec 6 23:06:02 CET [worker_thread_81:error]: snapvault: source transfer from /vol/volume/qtree1 to filer2:/vol/snpvault/qtree1 : source contains no new data; suspending transfer to destination Thanks in advance, Kind regards, Michel Geldenhuys Danone Belgium SA/NV +32 2 776 68 23 michel.geldenhuys(a)danone.com

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few quaries
by Prashant Desai 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hi all i am newbiew to filer and storage , i am eager to know following things but unfortunately m not been able to get the rite pointers which can describe the stuffs in detail 1) How exactly the Fiber Channel works ? what are the stuffs involves in setting up a SAN using a Fiber Channel and what are their functions in details along with the alternative devices that too supports the same functions and can be used 2) what is the purpose of space reservation as far as Netapp's Filer FCP support is concern , why people need space reservation for volumes,qtrees or for luns ? 3) what size of volume i need to have if i want 1 TB of lun ? i have read in docs that i should i have atleast 2-3 times volume size if i wanna have lun on the volume that is for 1 TB of lun i need to have 2-3 TB of volume , where the other storage space being used ? 4) what would be the usable lun storage capacity if i create lun of 1 TB ? how much space will get utilized for partition table and keeping file systems metadata ? 5) is it possible to install more then one HBA's on hosts like solaris , windows mechines ? -- Warm Regards, Prashant Desai

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need help psl clarify
by Prashant Desai 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hi all i am newbiew to filer and storage , i am eager to know following things but unfortunately m not been able to get the rite pointers which can describe the stuffs in detail 1) How exactly the Fiber Channel works ? what are the stuffs involves in setting up a SAN using a Fiber Channeland what are their functions in details along with the alternativedevices that too supports the same functions and can be used 2) what is the purpose of space reservation as far as Netapp's Filer FCP support is concern , why people need space reservation for volumes,qtrees or for luns ? 3) what size of volume i need to have if i want 1 TB of lun ? i have read in docs that i should i have atleast 2-3 times volume size if i wanna have lun on the volume that is for 1 TB of lun i need to have 2-3 TB of volume, where the other storage space being used ? 4) what would be the usable lun storage capacity if i create lun of 1 TB? how much space will get utilized for partition table and keeping file systems metadata ? 5) is it possible to install more then one HBA's on hosts like solaris , windows mechines ? Warm Regards, Prashant Desai __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Re: F760 SCSI, Single-ended or Differential
by Graydon Dodson 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

I once had to RMA the motherboard on an old 760. After the swap the onboard SCSI changed from single-ended to differential. Since I was not using the motherboard SCSI it was not an issue for me. I now have two 760s one reports motherboard SCSI as single-ended and the other differential. I suspect there are two different motherboard designs for the 760. Graydon Dodson

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test
by Chris Ueland 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

test

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AW: clustered filers and CIFS ...
by Engmann, Tobias 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

You can do it,you must ensure cross network connectivity. If filer A fails,filer B will completely taken over Filer A including Network and Netbios Identity etc.so you have one physikal and one virtual Filer in the same physikal Network Segment. Regards, Tobias Engmann SE Netapp Cluster characteristics The filers in a cluster have the following characteristics: * They are connected to each other through a cluster interconnect consisting of adapters and cable through which they * Continually check whether the other filer is functioning * Mirror log data for each other's NVRAM * Synchronize each other's time * They use two Fibre Channel Arbitrated Loops (FC-AL), in which * Each filer uses the A loop to manage its own disks * Each filer uses the B loop in takeover mode to manage its partner's disks * They own their spare disks and do not share them with the other filer. * They may reside on the same NT domain or on different domains. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Waters, G Scott STG [mailto:george.scott.waters@us.army.mil] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 20:21 An: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Betreff: clustered filers and CIFS ... Here's one that I think I know the answer to but I figured I would see if anyone had any comments ... Can a set of clustered filers ... each running CIFS ... belong to two different NT4 domains?? I figure the answer is NO ... since when one of the filers failed the other would not be configured to handle requests for the other domain. Could someone confirm or deny my opinion?? Thanks. - Scott W.

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RE: DOT 6.4.2P11
by Egner, Michael 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Kerry, 6.4.2P11 is a GA release. Take a look at the the Data Ontap Release Model http://now.netapp.com/NOW/products/ontap_releasemodel/. 6.4.2P6 is a GA release, and was released as GA in September. All subsequent "P" releases will also be released GA. Hope this helps. -Mike Egner Systems Engineer Network Appliance Office: 847-655-2128 -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Herschel [mailto:margaret.k.herschel@jpl.nasa.gov] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:03 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: DOT 6.4.2P11 I need to upgrade a R150 from DOT version 6.4.1P1D1 to DOT 6.4.2P11 because of bug 102089/Disk spin up errors could lead to wafl hung panic. My system did a system panic and rebooted last week due to this error. I'm a little nervous though about upgrading to a non-GA release. Is anyone out there running this release? (Netapp claims 20 systems are running it). If so any issues with it? Thanks for any input, Kerry Herschel ================================================================ Margaret.K.Herschel(a)jpl.nasa.gov ICIS Jet Propulsion Laboratory Phone 818.354.1111 DISCLAIMER: The personal and professional opinions presented herein are my own and do not, in any way, represent the opinion or policy of JPL.

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clustered filers and CIFS ...
by Waters, G Scott STG 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Here's one that I think I know the answer to but I figured I would see if anyone had any comments ... Can a set of clustered filers ... each running CIFS ... belong to two different NT4 domains?? I figure the answer is NO ... since when one of the filers failed the other would not be configured to handle requests for the other domain. Could someone confirm or deny my opinion?? Thanks. - Scott W.

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RE: Newbie Help
by grey jolly 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

Good day Preshant: For background information look up Jon Toigo's Books on Amazon and look on Google to find his articles. Also, you can find a lot of background on the website www.nas-san.com Toasters is a great group for help on NetApp products and software. Welcome to the Storage world, Grey From: Prashant Desai [mailto:prashant@apara.com] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:29 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Newbie Help Hi There I am new to storage arean any good links to start learning about storage networking , i wanna know it inside out and wants to start with fundamentals any pointers will help me regards Prashant __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/

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RE: Newbie Help
by Dehorn, Rusty 04 Dec '03

04 Dec '03

Hi Prashant- I train new sales people at NetApp. My favorite book for an introduction to storage networking is "Using NAS and SAN" by W. Curtis Peterson (published by O'Reilly). This has been required reading for our sales force. A thicker read but also good is "Building Storage Networks" by Marc Farley. I haven't checked the most recent versions for updates but I assume they are updated. Rusty Dehorn NetApp University -----Original Message----- From: Prashant Desai [mailto:prashant@apara.com] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:29 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Newbie Help Hi There I am new to storage arean any good links to start learning about storage networking , i wanna know it inside out and wants to start with fundamentals any pointers will help me regards Prashant

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