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RE: Needed: A tool for editing CIFS ACLs
by Holland, William L 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

CIFS security auditing is already a part of the CIFS protocal and configured through options cifs. You can use CACLS (part of the Windows OS) in scripts to manage the ACLs as well. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:Grant.Warkentin@calgary.ca] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:18 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Needed: A tool for editing CIFS ACLs Question: Can anyone recommend a 3rd party tool for editing CIFS ACLs on an FAS960. We need: 1. An audit trail. 2. The ability to add additional ACLs without changing the existing ACLs on a folder. Currently we are using FSA (File Security Administrator) by NetIQ on our regular servers. This product needs to run an agent on the server so it's no good for filers. I have been looking at Security Explorer by Script Logic. Some information I have on this product is "We are currently working with Net App to overcome some issues with Compatibility." Do you know of any other programs besides these two? TIA. Grant Warkentin System Administrator II City of Calgary - Information Technology Mail Drop == 8245 Ph: (403) 268-5629 Fax: (403) 268-2546 NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation.

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Needed: A tool for editing CIFS ACLs
by Warkentin, Grant 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Question: Can anyone recommend a 3rd party tool for editing CIFS ACLs on an FAS960. We need: 1. An audit trail. 2. The ability to add additional ACLs without changing the existing ACLs on a folder. Currently we are using FSA (File Security Administrator) by NetIQ on our regular servers. This product needs to run an agent on the server so it's no good for filers. I have been looking at Security Explorer by Script Logic. Some information I have on this product is "We are currently working with Net App to overcome some issues with Compatibility." Do you know of any other programs besides these two? TIA. Grant Warkentin System Administrator II City of Calgary - Information Technology Mail Drop == 8245 Ph: (403) 268-5629 Fax: (403) 268-2546 NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation.

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Re: HSM and NetApp
by Chad_Haywood＠ssga.com 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Derek We are considering FileX in addition to others like StorageTek or Veritas solutions. Are you using FileX now and if so what do you like/dislike about it? Thanks, Chad Chad Haywood SSgA Enterprise Storage Management Desk (617) 664-2746 Cell (617) 592-3519 --------- Sent from my BlackBerry ----------- ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-toasters Sent: 03/22/2005 01:38 PM To: "'Holland, William L'" <hollandwl(a)state.gov>; "'toasters(a)mathworks.com'" <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Subject: RE: HSM and NetApp Check out FLM (File Lifecycle Management) from Nuview. Derek -----Original Message----- From: Holland, William L [mailto:hollandwl@state.gov] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:57 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: HSM and NetApp What would you recommend for an HSM product for use with NetApp? I am interested in a product that will periodically scan my file systems on my filers and then, based on criteria that I establish, move those files to an R200. I would like for it to leave a link in place of the original file so that it can be retrieved should it be needed. I would like to be able to further refine the management such that once a file has been moved to the R200 for some period of time let me know to either archive it to tape/DVD/etc and then delete it from the R200 and remove the links.

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RE: HSM and NetApp
by Iain Barnetson 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

We use Enigma Data Systems "Smartmove" it's Java based works well enough the only draw back for us is that it doesn't use a SQL DB only it's own flat file system or Oracle. otherwise it's pretty good. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Holland, William L Sent: Tue 22/03/2005 17:57 To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: HSM and NetApp What would you recommend for an HSM product for use with NetApp? I am interested in a product that will periodically scan my file systems on my filers and then, based on criteria that I establish, move those files to an R200. I would like for it to leave a link in place of the original file so that it can be retrieved should it be needed. I would like to be able to further refine the management such that once a file has been moved to the R200 for some period of time let me know to either archive it to tape/DVD/etc and then delete it from the R200 and remove the links.

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ONTAP 7.0.0.1, aggregates, and flexvols
by Rob Winters 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

I'm catching up on the 6-week-old thread on this topic, and wondered where anyone is with deployment, stability, etc. It sounded like everyone in that thread went with my initial instinct of "make the aggregate as big as you can, and stuff it with flexvols". I'm wondering if that's the smart thing to do in a real-world scenario, or if there isn't some "middle way". If three disk fail in any one RAID-DP in the aggregate, or if two disks fail and the operator accidentally yanks out a third disk while trying to yank one of the first two, or (insert nightmare scenario here), then it's tape restore time for *every flexvol in the aggregate*, isn't it? It's an extreme long shot with RAID-DP, but a very bad outcome if you hit that particular lottery. I'm trying to decide how to think about that. Maybe divide up shares into different functional groups, or by space utilization, and do three aggregates instead of one? Still lots of space flexibility, but a bad raid only takes down a third of the Universe instead of the whole thing. Same issue in choosing the "sweet spot" for RAID size. I have 12 shelves in the FAS960, and I'm sure I want to minimize disks from the same RAID sharing shelves. One is ideal, two is tolerable, and three is "right out". Thoughts from smart folks appreciated, especially smart folks with working implementations. ;-) /// Rob

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RE: ONTAP 7.0.0.1, aggregates, and flexvols
by Jeff Mohler 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

In the battle to maximize investment (usable disk space) -vs- risk (data loss), try to understand how much downtime you can -afford-. You will have backups, contingencies..etc, but try to math out how much downtime your enterprise can afford (because there will ALWAYS be some form of downtime as time goes on), and design the system to fall within that cost. That is usually easier than trying to understand how much uptime you want to buy, because you always want the MOST uptime, but you soon realize you cant afford it. Once you have that, its pretty simple to size a system to match it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Battle, Evan (CBC) Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:09 PM To: Rob Winters; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: ONTAP 7.0.0.1, aggregates, and flexvols If you are worried about this scenario, use smaller raid groups. Evan -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Rob Winters Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:45 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: ONTAP 7.0.0.1, aggregates, and flexvols I'm catching up on the 6-week-old thread on this topic, and wondered where anyone is with deployment, stability, etc. It sounded like everyone in that thread went with my initial instinct of "make the aggregate as big as you can, and stuff it with flexvols". I'm wondering if that's the smart thing to do in a real-world scenario, or if there isn't some "middle way". If three disk fail in any one RAID-DP in the aggregate, or if two disks fail and the operator accidentally yanks out a third disk while trying to yank one of the first two, or (insert nightmare scenario here), then it's tape restore time for *every flexvol in the aggregate*, isn't it? It's an extreme long shot with RAID-DP, but a very bad outcome if you hit that particular lottery. I'm trying to decide how to think about that. Maybe divide up shares into different functional groups, or by space utilization, and do three aggregates instead of one? Still lots of space flexibility, but a bad raid only takes down a third of the Universe instead of the whole thing. Same issue in choosing the "sweet spot" for RAID size. I have 12 shelves in the FAS960, and I'm sure I want to minimize disks from the same RAID sharing shelves. One is ideal, two is tolerable, and three is "right out". Thoughts from smart folks appreciated, especially smart folks with working implementations. ;-) /// Rob Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or disclosure of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the original message. Your compliance is appreciated.

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RE: ONTAP 7.0.0.1, aggregates, and flexvols
by Battle, Evan (CBC) 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

If you are worried about this scenario, use smaller raid groups. Evan -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Rob Winters Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:45 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: ONTAP 7.0.0.1, aggregates, and flexvols I'm catching up on the 6-week-old thread on this topic, and wondered where anyone is with deployment, stability, etc. It sounded like everyone in that thread went with my initial instinct of "make the aggregate as big as you can, and stuff it with flexvols". I'm wondering if that's the smart thing to do in a real-world scenario, or if there isn't some "middle way". If three disk fail in any one RAID-DP in the aggregate, or if two disks fail and the operator accidentally yanks out a third disk while trying to yank one of the first two, or (insert nightmare scenario here), then it's tape restore time for *every flexvol in the aggregate*, isn't it? It's an extreme long shot with RAID-DP, but a very bad outcome if you hit that particular lottery. I'm trying to decide how to think about that. Maybe divide up shares into different functional groups, or by space utilization, and do three aggregates instead of one? Still lots of space flexibility, but a bad raid only takes down a third of the Universe instead of the whole thing. Same issue in choosing the "sweet spot" for RAID size. I have 12 shelves in the FAS960, and I'm sure I want to minimize disks from the same RAID sharing shelves. One is ideal, two is tolerable, and three is "right out". Thoughts from smart folks appreciated, especially smart folks with working implementations. ;-) /// Rob Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or disclosure of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the original message. Your compliance is appreciated.

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RE: HSM and NetApp
by Derek Lai 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Check out FLM (File Lifecycle Management) from Nuview. Derek -----Original Message----- From: Holland, William L [mailto:hollandwl@state.gov] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:57 AM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: HSM and NetApp What would you recommend for an HSM product for use with NetApp? I am interested in a product that will periodically scan my file systems on my filers and then, based on criteria that I establish, move those files to an R200. I would like for it to leave a link in place of the original file so that it can be retrieved should it be needed. I would like to be able to further refine the management such that once a file has been moved to the R200 for some period of time let me know to either archive it to tape/DVD/etc and then delete it from the R200 and remove the links.

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RE: HSM and NetApp
by Alan Biren 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Try NuView's File Lifecycle Manager. I've implemented several times. It does what you are looking for. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Holland, William L Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:57 PM To: 'toasters(a)mathworks.com' Subject: HSM and NetApp What would you recommend for an HSM product for use with NetApp? I am interested in a product that will periodically scan my file systems on my filers and then, based on criteria that I establish, move those files to an R200. I would like for it to leave a link in place of the original file so that it can be retrieved should it be needed. I would like to be able to further refine the management such that once a file has been moved to the R200 for some period of time let me know to either archive it to tape/DVD/etc and then delete it from the R200 and remove the links. ***************************************************************************************************** If you have received this email in error please notify the the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclosed the to anyone or make copies. ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals or malicious content ** ** To find out eSafe(TM) and other Aladdin Security Products, contact AMC Corporation at (212) 736-0111 *****************************************************************************************************

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Re: HSM and NetApp
by jack＠jlbtechconsulting.com 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Check out CommVault's Qinetix Data Migrator. You're looking for an Information LIfecycle Management tool and they have the best on the market right now. It will do exactly what you're asking to do.

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possible space guarantee "bug" ?
by Charles Bartels 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

I've been shuffling around my volumes, migrating to flexible volumes, and noticed an interesting possible bug. I created about a dozen volumes within a large aggregate; using all the space available. All were create with the default space guarantee setting of "volume". As I understand things, this effectively means the space is reserved for each volume (i.e. one volume can't use up space in another volume.) When I rebooted my filer this morning I noticed the warning: [wafl.vol.guarantee.fail:error]: Space for volume vol_test is NOT guaranteed and the space guarantee setting showed up as "volume(disabled)" As soon as I shrunk one of the volumes a bit the following message appeared in the log: [wafl.vol.add.spcGuar:info]: Space for volume vol_test is guaranteed. This seems to imply that one should be very careful whenever you create or increase the size of a flexible volume. You can inadvertently disable the space guarantee on another volume. This *may* be the expected way 7.0 works; I don't know. I'm still in the process of getting the hang of this latest release. But it did seem strange. -C.

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Exchange and iSCSI
by Holland, William L 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

Is SnapDrive and SnapManager for Exchange really needed to run Exchange with databases on a filer using iSCSI? Seems to me that it would be possible to use MS's iSCSI initiator then manually create the iSCSI Groups and LUNs where the databases and logs will be stored then use scripts to perform routine maintenance and backups. Anyone out there using Exchange and iSCSI without SnapDrive and SnapManager for Exchange?

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Support Console
by Robert Borowicz 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

Does anybody use NetApp's "Support Console" ? Please write me privately if you do. Thanks -Rob

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RE: df size reporting differences in ONTAP 7.0
by Sphar, Mike 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

Is it possible that the order the quotas are defined in the quota file are causing this different behavior? -----Original Message----- From: Adam McDougall [mailto:mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:18 AM To: Charles Bartels Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: df size reporting differences in ONTAP 7.0 On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:51:54AM -0800, Charles Bartels wrote: > I may be confused but it sounds like you are describing the > old behavior, which 6.5.3 exhibits. Yes. But certain configurations of 7.0 do *not* have that problem. I have user quotas under a qtree in a traditional volume that show the "correct" answer when the user runs "df", meaning the user sees their partition sized to their quota. > All in all, I was alerted today that a Bug ID 154530 was created > and will be "fixed" in a future release. I took a look at that bug on the NOW site and it was disappointingly vague. It has a title, and nothing else. -C. It is publicly available now: 154530 Title 'df' reports size based on all quotas (including user/group) over NFS in a qtree Duplicate of Bug Severity 3 - Serious inconvenience Bug Status Not Fixed Product Data ONTAP Bug Type WAFL Description Formatted In releases prior to 7.0, running the 'df' command on an NFS mount of an exported qtree shows the export size as the smaller of the volume size or the qtree quota, if one exists. In 7.0, this behavior was inadvertently changed to return the size as the minimum of the volume size or any applicable quota, including user and group quotas for the user running 'df' in addition to any qtree quota.

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RE: df size reporting differences in ONTAP 7.0
by Charles Bartels 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

> I may be confused but it sounds like you are describing the > old behavior, which 6.5.3 exhibits. Yes. But certain configurations of 7.0 do *not* have that problem. I have user quotas under a qtree in a traditional volume that show the "correct" answer when the user runs "df", meaning the user sees their partition sized to their quota. > All in all, I was alerted today that a Bug ID 154530 was created > and will be "fixed" in a future release. I took a look at that bug on the NOW site and it was disappointingly vague. It has a title, and nothing else. -C.

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21 Mar '05

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df size reporting differences in ONTAP 7.0
by Adam McDougall 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

This sunday I upgraded our production FAS940 from 6.5.3 to 7.0 and noticed NFS clients are reporting the user or group quota as the volume size and free space when running df, when 6.5.3 and earlier used to report the qtree quota. I was suprised by this change and so far have been told by NetApp that it is a bug fix, not a bug. Just wanted to send a heads up to the list to let people know, and wondering if anyone else was affected negatively by this. I like part of the idea of the change but was not expecting it at all. Didn't see it in docs. Its interesting but inappropriate for some of our volumes the way we have quotas setup, and it prevents non-admins from seeing if the volume or qtree is nearing full.

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RE: Inconsistent volume
by McLoughlin, John 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

Before doing what I list below, I would do a Ctrl-C to get into special boot options, then do a maintenance boot and do an environment status chassis -- Check on your batteries and battery temp. I believe the course of action here is to run a Ctrl-C for special boot options. When given the prompt 1-5, do not choose any. Instead, type: WAFL_check -z -- It'll ask which volumes you want to WAFL_check. Just do vol0. Follow the prompts from there. Cross your fingers. And hope. :) Thanks, John. -----Original Message----- From: k+toasters(a)ivsnet.net [mailto:k+toasters@ivsnet.net] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Inconsistent volume Hey guys, I ran into a problem just now with an inconsistent volume. I believe it was due to the nvram batteries not being in full contact on the nvram card. I reset the batteries and made sure there was contact, I booted up, got a 'dirty shutdown' message and a not about possible data loss. Now, Im stuck at this: rc:ALERT]: Volume vol0 is inconsistent. Please contact. PANIC: Root volume vol0 cannot be mounted. Please run WAFL_check in process rc5 So, what should my next course of action be? Thanks

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Inconsistent volume
by k+toasters＠ivsnet.net 19 Mar '05

19 Mar '05

Hey guys, I ran into a problem just now with an inconsistent volume. I believe it was due to the nvram batteries not being in full contact on the nvram card. I reset the batteries and made sure there was contact, I booted up, got a 'dirty shutdown' message and a not about possible data loss. Now, Im stuck at this: rc:ALERT]: Volume vol0 is inconsistent. Please contact. PANIC: Root volume vol0 cannot be mounted. Please run WAFL_check in process rc5 So, what should my next course of action be? Thanks

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RE: Windows Shadow Copy Client & Snapshots
by Iain Barnetson 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

I don't know about that, I've only just become aware that it can be used and we're on version 7.0.0.1. And I know that I couldn't get it to work before switching on the snapshots using that command. Interestingly enough, and I've not got back to NetApp about this yet, I turned it off again - as I'm still not sure about providing this facility - and it still works. But it definately didn't before turning on that setting. Now that I've switched it off again I keep expecting the facility to disappear, I've been waiting to see what happens. Regards, Iain Barnetson IT Systems Administrator UKN Infrastructure Operations -----Original Message----- From: Sto Rage(c) [mailto:netbacker@gmail.com] Sent: 17 March 2005 16:16 To: Iain Barnetson Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com; Bailey, Jourdan Subject: Re: Windows Shadow Copy Client & Snapshots Oh so it means in 7.0.0.1 the behaviour is different from how it is in 6.5.3. We are running 6.5.3P4 and have that option turned off and STILL users with Windows Shadow Copy Client can see the previous versions of their files and folders. We deliberately turned off showing the snapshots on CIFS because our users were confused about it (most of them have "show hidden files" option turned on). We installed the shadow copy client on their machines to help them do the restores themselves without the hassle of them "seeing" multiple copies of the same files when they do a search or browse through their shares and folders. The Shadow copy client was perfect for our needs - no ~snapshot folders visible, yet users can restore previous versions by themselves. NOTE: Even with show_snapshot set to off in 6.5.3, one can go into the snapshot folders by manually typing in the path, e.g: \\<filername>\<share_name>\<dir_name>\~snapshot\ either in the Run command box or widnows explorer. This would show the traditional snapshot folders. One more reason for us to stay away from 7.0.0.1 for now. Hope NetApp reverts the behaviour back to how it was in 6.5 and earlier versions. Would they consider this as a bug ? -G On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:22:49 -0000, Iain Barnetson <Iain.Barnetson(a)halliburton.com> wrote: > > > You may remember I emailed asking about using Windows Shadow Copy > Client as I couldn't see any snapshots. > My config is > Filer: Data OnTap 7.0.0.1 > Clients: Windows XP sp1 & sp2 > Snapshots were set to visible from the web gui > > Jourdan Bailey of NetApp found the solution that resolved the problem > and allowed us to use the Win Shadow Copy client: > options cifs.show_snapshot on > > > Regards, > > Iain Barnetson > IT Systems Administrator > UKN Infrastructure Operations

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RE: Windows Shadow Copy Client & Snapshots
by Iain Barnetson 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

You may remember I emailed asking about using Windows Shadow Copy Client as I couldn't see any snapshots. My config is Filer: Data OnTap 7.0.0.1 Clients: Windows XP sp1 & sp2 Snapshots were set to visible from the web gui Jourdan Bailey of NetApp found the solution that resolved the problem and allowed us to use the Win Shadow Copy client: options cifs.show_snapshot on Regards, Iain Barnetson IT Systems Administrator UKN Infrastructure Operations

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RE: Requests on Slashdot for donations for OpenBSD.
by Hitz, Dave 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

Although NetApp's OS looks nothing like BSD (it has no user space for instance, and a very different internal structure from any UNIX kernel), we certainly did use a good bit of code from the Net/2 and BSD-lite releases, back when that was being mostly funded by Berkeley and DARPA. As Luke says, we used the TCP/IP stack. Also the boot and locore code for both Intel and Alpha. And although we don't have a user space for commands to run in, we did take chunks of user space code in commands like "ping" and "ifconfig" and massage them into kernel code. I don't know the specifics, but I'd be surprised if we hadn't found more stuff to borrow over the years. I confess that we haven't made any dollar contributions, although if you look at the code contributions I think you'll find that Guy Harris (also of NetApp) and myself were both early contributors. For instance, I contributed cp(1). (When I was done, "cp -R" was a good bit faster than the AT&T version. Instead of doing the copy for a directory in a single pass, I scanned the directory twice, doing files on the first pass and directories on the second. This optimized for the fact that in FFS files in a directory tend to end up in the same cylindar group, so doing the files all together reduces disk seeks.) So at the time, we figured that we gave some code, and took some code -- call it even-Steven. :-) Not that I would object if we found a way to make a corporate contribution. We have made some source contributions to Linux, and I've personally made some contributions to Mozilla, so we are definitely fans of the open source movement. Dave Hitz > -----Original Message----- > From: Luke Mewburn [mailto:luke@mewburn.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:36 AM > To: Maren S. Leizaola > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: Requests on Slashdot for donations for OpenBSD. > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 01:44:25AM +0800, Maren S. Leizaola wrote: > | Network Appliance a.k.a NetApp is noticeably absent from > the OpenBSD > | donations page (www.openbsd.org/donations.html). Anyone who uses a > | NetApp knows immediately that the OnTap OS is BSD, always has been > | BSD. > > The fact that NetApp used some 4.xBSD and NetBSD code (most > of which predates the existance of OpenBSD) doesn't mean that > NetApp "owes" the OpenBSD project anything. > > > AFAICT, the "BSD" code that NetApp uses (or has used) includes: > > * The TCP/IP stack from BSD Net/2 and 4.4BSD-lite. > > * The NetBSD/alpha port was originally written by > Chris Demetriou for NetBSD (whilst he was at CMU). > NetApp appears to have used that to get OnTAP running > on the Alpha-based 630 and 7xx series of Filers and > NetCaches. > > Luke. > > (Speaking for myself, not for NetBSD or NetApp). >

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Requests on Slashdot for donations for OpenBSD.
by Maren S. Leizaola 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

I post this here in case you guys at NetApp have not seen it. http://bsd.slashdot.org/bsd/05/03/13/1847246.shtml?tid=137&tid=162&tid=172&… Network Appliance should donate a filer (Score:1) by Okijames (309689) on Tuesday March 15, @11:00AM (#11943572) Network Appliance a.k.a NetApp is noticeably absent from the OpenBSD donations page (www.openbsd.org/donations.html). Anyone who uses a NetApp knows immediately that the OnTap OS is BSD, always has been BSD. Considering the Billions (yes, Billions) of dollars in revenue NetApp has derived from the BSDs, I am appalled at the company's lack of contribution back to the BSD community! Considering that a good number of their founders, engineers, and developers were educated at Berkeley (yes the B in BSD), I am doubly appalled at the company's lack of contribution! Now OpenBSD is looking for some storage and NetApp sits by while a POS Dell array is considered? You know, Dell, as in EMC's (NetApp's biggest competitor) biggest partner! HELLO? NetApp? HELLO? You should make sure that all the BSDs host their CVS repositories on NetApp, a nice BSD based platform. FWIW... Yes, I contribute. I have standing subscriptions and kick in a few extra bucks when needed. -------------------------------------------------------------- HKdotCOM Ltd Tel: 852 2865-4865 ext 888 Fax: 852 2865-4100 leizaola(a)hk.com AIM: MarenHKdotCOM ICQ: 39905706 MSN:MarenHKdotCOM -------------------------------------------------------------- Get your @hk.com email address on http://www.hk.com

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RE: Windows Shadow Copy client
by Johan Gislen 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

In order for previous versions to work on WinXP SP1 and Win2K you have to install the Shadow Copy Client. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e382358f-33c3-4de7… WinXP SP2 does not require this installation as far as I know. //Johan Gislén > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Iain Barnetson > Sent: den 15 mars 2005 22:24 > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: Windows Shadow Copy client > > I've been trying to use Windows Shadow Copy client but when I > right click a file/folder although the previous version tab > is there no previous versions show. > I'm using WinXP sp1, Data OnTap 7, the shadown copies are set > to visible from the Web GUI. > > Do I have to enable something on the filer? I believe that's > the case for Windows 2000 clients, but this is solely for > WinXP sp1 & sp2 clients. > > Cheers > Iain >

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RE: Requests on Slashdot for donations for OpenBSD.
by Jeff Mohler 16 Mar '05

16 Mar '05

Donations thru guilt? Great tactic. Wasnt aware the license for BSD required tithing. I AM aware that the proper maintenance of a SCSI bus involves sacraficing goats however. What will Netapp now owe Crane for over a decade of trouble free flushing? What homage does Netapp pay BSD? It could be running Linux. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Maren S. Leizaola Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:44 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Requests on Slashdot for donations for OpenBSD. I post this here in case you guys at NetApp have not seen it. http://bsd.slashdot.org/bsd/05/03/13/1847246.shtml?tid=137&tid=162&tid=1 72&tid=98&tid=8&tid=7 Network Appliance should donate a filer (Score:1) by Okijames (309689) on Tuesday March 15, @11:00AM (#11943572) Network Appliance a.k.a NetApp is noticeably absent from the OpenBSD donations page (www.openbsd.org/donations.html). Anyone who uses a NetApp knows immediately that the OnTap OS is BSD, always has been BSD. Considering the Billions (yes, Billions) of dollars in revenue NetApp has derived from the BSDs, I am appalled at the company's lack of contribution back to the BSD community! Considering that a good number of their founders, engineers, and developers were educated at Berkeley (yes the B in BSD), I am doubly appalled at the company's lack of contribution! Now OpenBSD is looking for some storage and NetApp sits by while a POS Dell array is considered? You know, Dell, as in EMC's (NetApp's biggest competitor) biggest partner! HELLO? NetApp? HELLO? You should make sure that all the BSDs host their CVS repositories on NetApp, a nice BSD based platform. FWIW... Yes, I contribute. I have standing subscriptions and kick in a few extra bucks when needed. -------------------------------------------------------------- HKdotCOM Ltd Tel: 852 2865-4865 ext 888 Fax: 852 2865-4100 leizaola(a)hk.com AIM: MarenHKdotCOM ICQ: 39905706 MSN:MarenHKdotCOM -------------------------------------------------------------- Get your @hk.com email address on http://www.hk.com

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