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Is burt 155441 a show-stopper?
by Chris Thompson 05 Jun '05

05 Jun '05

It's a real pain not having a spare filer to test things on ... I was hoping that all the quota-related nasties (153377, 154530) were well and truely fixed now and that I wouild be able to upgrade from 6.5.4 to 7.0.1R1(maybe P<something>) later this month. But then this appears on NOW: Bug ID 155441 Title: cp -p, chown, chgrp may erroneously fail due to "Disk quota exceeded" Description: If the default user or group quota for a volume or qtree is set lower than the size of the file whose permissions are being set, the command will fail due to an incorrect assertion that it would put the user over quota. This problem does not manifest when the command is executed by root. I am assuming that this is Yet Another Bug new in ONTAP 7.x, as AFAIK we have never seen the effect, and it seems to me we would surely be liable to. Specifically, we have a zero default quota in our /home qtree: * user@/home 0 0 101 user@/home 80M 8000 102 user@/home 210M 8000 ... specifically intended to lock out unallocated uids, special uids that aren't meant to be using /home, cancelled accounts, and so on. It works very well. Has anytoaster suffered the effect described in the bug report? -- Chris Thompson Email: cet1(a)cam.ac.uk

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RE: NDMP with TSM on Solaris
by Warkentin, Grant 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

We're using NDMP to backup from a nearstore device. Our legato software was / is having problems when backing up the volumes that I have CIFS stuff on. Legato would time out and not complete a full. Legato did not have problems doing an incremental on those volumes. Turns out our problem was a timeout on catalogue creation. Legato would pause for a good hour before starting to transfer data to tape. The problem got worse when we added more and more users to the volume. We had to modify the time out values in legato to allow it to finish creating the catalogue. As far as I know legato still behaves this way. I don't have current figures on how long legato is now taking to create the catalogue currently. We finally tracked this down to the thousands of small files that our windows users keep in their home folders. Our UNIX files take up more room but they are fewer and bigger than the windows files so we don't have the legato issue on the volume we use for NFS. NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of markallen(a)micron.com Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 8:30 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Cc: bbullock(a)micron.com Subject: NDMP with TSM on Solaris All: We recently started backing up data from an R200 using NDMP and TSM running on Solaris. The Solaris system is a V240 with 2CPU's and 4GB of memory. Everything is connected via a fabric. Backups seem to perform reasonably well when we are not getting a table of contents. Since we need a table of contents for individual file restores it is must to have this. When creating a table of contents backup's slow down by a factor of 5X. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated. -Mark

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NDMP with TSM on Solaris
by markallen＠micron.com 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

All: We recently started backing up data from an R200 using NDMP and TSM running on Solaris. The Solaris system is a V240 with 2CPU's and 4GB of memory. Everything is connected via a fabric. Backups seem to perform reasonably well when we are not getting a table of contents. Since we need a table of contents for individual file restores it is must to have this. When creating a table of contents backup's slow down by a factor of 5X. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated. -Mark

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F840 reboot from watchdog reset
by Tavis Gustafson 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

Using ontap 6.4.5 with 1 ds14 over copper fc Last night one of our F840's rebooted itself twice via "watchdog reset". Either before or after the second reboot notification mail was sent the filer froze up with the front LCD panel stuck at some NFS ops/sec number. After a hard reboot it came up fine. I disabled the watchdog timer and the machine stayed up. Has anyone experienced multiple watchdog timer resets or knows what type of hardware failure they watch? Also, how bad is it to keep the watchdog turned off? Thanks, Tavis

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RE: F840 reboot from watchdog reset
by Oscar Rodríguez Hernández 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

Hi all, The theory of operation of a watchdog card is a counter that the unit has to reset at regular intervals. In case the counter reaches the maximum value because ONTAP has not reset the counter, the watchdog will reboot the unit. I'm talking off the top of my head, I'm sure someone could point out what the exact behaviour of the watchdog card is. In other words, the unit crashed and become unresponsive and the watchdog rebooted the unit. Disabling the watchdog will not reboot the unit and will leave the head of the filer just crashed, so the filer will stop servicing files until manual intervention is done (power cycle). In my opinion, it would be better to have the watchdog activated and investigate why the unit crashed. If the unit is rebooted because of the watchdog several times, maybe there could be a bug in that particular version of ONTAP (check NOW for possible bugs). To investigate the failure, look at the log messages before the crash in the autosupport, that may help troubleshooting the issue. Regards, Oscar -----Mensaje original----- De: En nombre de Tavis Gustafson Enviado el: 01 June 2005 19:40 Para: orhernandez(a)gmail.com Asunto: F840 reboot from watchdog reset Using ontap 6.4.5 with 1 ds14 over copper fc Last night one of our F840's rebooted itself twice via "watchdog reset". Either before or after the second reboot notification mail was sent the filer froze up with the front LCD panel stuck at some NFS ops/sec number. After a hard reboot it came up fine. I disabled the watchdog timer and the machine stayed up. Has anyone experienced multiple watchdog timer resets or knows what type of hardware failure they watch? Also, how bad is it to keep the watchdog turned off? Thanks, Tavis

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RE: Non disruptive upgrade of FAS960c cluster
by Watanabe, Steve 31 May '05

31 May '05

> From: Steve Losen [mailto:scl@sasha.acc.virginia.edu] > > We want to upgrade a FAS960c cluster from 7.0.0.1 to 7.0.1R1. > The cluster is only doing FC SAN, providing LUNs for our > central email servers, which are Suns running Solaris 8 and > Veritas volume manger and filesystem. Veritas is configured > to to multi-pathing. > > We do not want to schedule downtime for the email servers > whenever we upgrade the filers. I have been reading about > the "non disruptive" upgrade procedure where you install the > new system files, download, and instead of reboot, you "cf > takeover" one filer and "cf giveback", then do the same with > the other filer. > > Is this really significantly less disruptive than doing a > normal upgrade where you "cf disable" and then just reboot > both filers? Hi Steve, The non-disruptive upgrade (NDU) process is the same level of disruptiveness as a reboot (e.g. no disruption for NFS; connection lost for CIFS). The difference is that the length of time the filer isn't servicing the clients is shorter in the NDU case. The takeover time, while dependent on the load of the filers, is faster than a reboot which requires the filer to do POST, load the kernel, scan the Pci bus, init the adapters, init all the processes, etc. > > When you "cf takeover" the current SAN data path that the Sun > boxes are using to access some LUNs becomes unavailable, so > they must switch to an alternate data path through the > surviving filer. How long does this take and how disruptive > is it? Then when you "cf giveback", the Sun boxes need to > switch back to the original data path. If you simply reboot > both filers, then all of the LUNs are unavailable during the > reboot and come back after a minute or two. I've cc'd our FCP person for his answer to this but again the service "pause" is shorter for takeover/giveback then a reboot. > > Is it really less disruptive and "safer" to use the > takeover/giveback procedure in our situation? NDU is a tested, documented procedure. > > I am also concerned about the disk firmware upgrade that may > happen as part of an ONTAP upgrade. Is it better to upgrade > the disk FW before upgrading ONTAP, to make the ONTAP upgrade > as fast as possible? Yes, in fact the current recommendation is that you don't use NDU if you need a disk f/w upgrade and you have raid-4 aggregates. It is ok to use NDU if you use raid-dp or mirrored raid-4 aggregates. -Steve Watanabe NetApp Cluster Group > > > Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 > > University of Virginia ITC Unix Support > >

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Non disruptive upgrade of FAS960c cluster
by Steve Losen 31 May '05

31 May '05

We want to upgrade a FAS960c cluster from 7.0.0.1 to 7.0.1R1. The cluster is only doing FC SAN, providing LUNs for our central email servers, which are Suns running Solaris 8 and Veritas volume manger and filesystem. Veritas is configured to to multi-pathing. We do not want to schedule downtime for the email servers whenever we upgrade the filers. I have been reading about the "non disruptive" upgrade procedure where you install the new system files, download, and instead of reboot, you "cf takeover" one filer and "cf giveback", then do the same with the other filer. Is this really significantly less disruptive than doing a normal upgrade where you "cf disable" and then just reboot both filers? When you "cf takeover" the current SAN data path that the Sun boxes are using to access some LUNs becomes unavailable, so they must switch to an alternate data path through the surviving filer. How long does this take and how disruptive is it? Then when you "cf giveback", the Sun boxes need to switch back to the original data path. If you simply reboot both filers, then all of the LUNs are unavailable during the reboot and come back after a minute or two. Is it really less disruptive and "safer" to use the takeover/giveback procedure in our situation? I am also concerned about the disk firmware upgrade that may happen as part of an ONTAP upgrade. Is it better to upgrade the disk FW before upgrading ONTAP, to make the ONTAP upgrade as fast as possible? Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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Snap restore hung...
by Mats.Oberg＠tietoenator.com 31 May '05

31 May '05

Hi, I was going to test snap restore the other day on one of our filers, it didn't work out the way I was hoping... Anyway, the problem was that the volume is snapmirrored to another filer and the "snap restore" told me that you can't restore on volumes that are snapmirrored. I didn't think that was a big problem until today I discovered that the snapmirroring stoped at around the time I tried the restore.. So now I have a volume that can't do snapshots anymore.. I couldn't even take the volume offline because the snap restore is still running (But restoring a single file shouldn't really take a week to complete, right?) Anybody know how to kill the snap restore?(or remove the lock/flag) I'd rather not reboot unless theres no other option. (the filer is a fas920 running 7.0.0.1p6 if thats any help...) / Mats

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ISCSI boot problems.
by Jeff Mohler 28 May '05

28 May '05

Ive got the Qlogic 4010c card, and so far NO problems at all, except I cannot transfer an existing HDD partition to it, and boot from it. Ive created the LUN, windows mode, and using Ghost I can see it, and do a disk to disk transfer of the old C: drive to the LUN. Then it wont boot, I get the PC error that it cant find anything to boot from. The Qlogic card during boot sees the Lun, and there is even a few moments of activity to the LUN before the PC says it cant. Ive even re-ghosted with the 'copy boot sectors' option no to avail. I can start an XP install from the CD, using the driver floppy, and it will install files, and boot just fine, fast too I might say. If I let XP restart for the disk based install from the LUN, it runs fine, so I reboot again into ghost off a floppy, and go to Xfer the HDD image to the LUN. Same error as the first try..cant boot. Any idears?? I need to work up a plan to migrate from HDD to LUN, and it cant be a dynamic LUN either..so I cant do a simple mirror operation.

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Qlogic 4010c Feedback
by Jeff Mohler 27 May '05

27 May '05

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RE: amd / netapp issue?
by Leeds, Daniel 26 May '05

26 May '05

hrm, i am also seeing odd cpu issues with 7.0.0.1 on some new deployments. with only a few systems we are constantly over 75% cpu and alot of times well into the 90's steadily on cpu usage. i havnt seen anything related on NOW yet. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Langborg Tom Sent: Thu 5/26/2005 6:10 AM To: 'Jay(a)Williamsons.org'; toasters(a)mathworks.com; am-utils(a)am-utils.org Subject: SV: amd / netapp issue? There were some problem with redhat7.3 and nfs. That bug on redhat break down my tru64 fileserver. For that bug you need to update the kernel. We run now 2.4.20-28 on the old rehat7.3. I have also a problem with ontapp 7.0 with 100% cpu. We think it was nfs logical problem who crashed my netapp. So we upgraded now to 7.0.1R1 and hope it works. /tom -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Jay Williamson [mailto:jay_williamson@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 26 maj 2005 14:20 Till: toasters(a)mathworks.com; am-utils(a)am-utils.org Ämne: amd / netapp issue? Hi. I'm sending this to am-utils and toasters since I'm not entirely sure where the problem is. These systems (redhat73-1, redhat73-2, etc.) are in a cluster. These errors all occur around the same time on all the clients (freqently different jobs) but sometimes spread out across 10-30 minutes. My first guess is simply that the netapps are to busy to answer the clients. *If* that's the case, then what can I change on the netapp or the client-end to mitigate this problem? What other options are there? From the /var/log/amd on clients: redhat73-1: May 25 13:48:01 redhat73-1 amd[965]/error: get_nfs_version: failed to contact portmapper on host "netapp1": RPC: Timed out redhat73-2: May 25 13:48:07 redhat73-2 amd[965]/error: get_nfs_version: failed to contact portmapper on host "netapp2": RPC: Timed out clients are dual Xeons running redhat 7.3 am-utils-6.0.7-4 2.4.20-28.7smp mount options=(rw,hard,intr,grpid,retrans=30,timeo=30,retry=10,dev=00000010,vers=3,proto=tcp) # Interesting note: We actually set retry=10000 but the rh7.3 systems use 10 instead netapps are 960/980 class systems ontap=6.5.2R1P13 They are typically very busy (100%) when the errors occur Network switches show no errors NIC cards on client and netapps show nothing Nothing in the messages file in clients nor on the netapps. Thanks in advance and I'll summarize if I get some good input. - Jay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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SV: amd / netapp issue?
by Langborg Tom 26 May '05

26 May '05

There were some problem with redhat7.3 and nfs. That bug on redhat break down my tru64 fileserver. For that bug you need to update the kernel. We run now 2.4.20-28 on the old rehat7.3. I have also a problem with ontapp 7.0 with 100% cpu. We think it was nfs logical problem who crashed my netapp. So we upgraded now to 7.0.1R1 and hope it works. /tom -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Jay Williamson [mailto:jay_williamson@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 26 maj 2005 14:20 Till: toasters(a)mathworks.com; am-utils(a)am-utils.org Ämne: amd / netapp issue? Hi. I'm sending this to am-utils and toasters since I'm not entirely sure where the problem is. These systems (redhat73-1, redhat73-2, etc.) are in a cluster. These errors all occur around the same time on all the clients (freqently different jobs) but sometimes spread out across 10-30 minutes. My first guess is simply that the netapps are to busy to answer the clients. *If* that's the case, then what can I change on the netapp or the client-end to mitigate this problem? What other options are there? From the /var/log/amd on clients: redhat73-1: May 25 13:48:01 redhat73-1 amd[965]/error: get_nfs_version: failed to contact portmapper on host "netapp1": RPC: Timed out redhat73-2: May 25 13:48:07 redhat73-2 amd[965]/error: get_nfs_version: failed to contact portmapper on host "netapp2": RPC: Timed out clients are dual Xeons running redhat 7.3 am-utils-6.0.7-4 2.4.20-28.7smp mount options=(rw,hard,intr,grpid,retrans=30,timeo=30,retry=10,dev=00000010,vers=3,proto=tcp) # Interesting note: We actually set retry=10000 but the rh7.3 systems use 10 instead netapps are 960/980 class systems ontap=6.5.2R1P13 They are typically very busy (100%) when the errors occur Network switches show no errors NIC cards on client and netapps show nothing Nothing in the messages file in clients nor on the netapps. Thanks in advance and I'll summarize if I get some good input. - Jay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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amd / netapp issue?
by Jay Williamson 26 May '05

26 May '05

Hi. I'm sending this to am-utils and toasters since I'm not entirely sure where the problem is. These systems (redhat73-1, redhat73-2, etc.) are in a cluster. These errors all occur around the same time on all the clients (freqently different jobs) but sometimes spread out across 10-30 minutes. My first guess is simply that the netapps are to busy to answer the clients. *If* that's the case, then what can I change on the netapp or the client-end to mitigate this problem? What other options are there? From the /var/log/amd on clients: redhat73-1: May 25 13:48:01 redhat73-1 amd[965]/error: get_nfs_version: failed to contact portmapper on host "netapp1": RPC: Timed out redhat73-2: May 25 13:48:07 redhat73-2 amd[965]/error: get_nfs_version: failed to contact portmapper on host "netapp2": RPC: Timed out clients are dual Xeons running redhat 7.3 am-utils-6.0.7-4 2.4.20-28.7smp mount options=(rw,hard,intr,grpid,retrans=30,timeo=30,retry=10,dev=00000010,vers=3,proto=tcp) # Interesting note: We actually set retry=10000 but the rh7.3 systems use 10 instead netapps are 960/980 class systems ontap=6.5.2R1P13 They are typically very busy (100%) when the errors occur Network switches show no errors NIC cards on client and netapps show nothing Nothing in the messages file in clients nor on the netapps. Thanks in advance and I'll summarize if I get some good input. - Jay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: Snapshot usage breakdown
by Venkat Appineni 25 May '05

25 May '05

You can go to the advanced mode Filer > priv set advanced Filer > snap status The output is in number of Blocks.. -Ven -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of P.S.Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:33 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Snapshot usage breakdown Sorry to be a nuisance but could someone remind what the command is that shows how much space each snapshot really takes up. I don't mean 'snap list' but another, possibly privileged command, which was mentioned on this list several months back. Unfortunately I failed to file the reference. Thanks. -- Paul Jones, Head of Systems Services, Information Technology Service, University of Durham, South Road, Durham DH1 3LE Email: p.s.jones(a)durham.ac.uk Phone/Fax: 0191 334 2749/2701

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Snapshot usage breakdown
by P.S.Jones 25 May '05

25 May '05

Sorry to be a nuisance but could someone remind what the command is that shows how much space each snapshot really takes up. I don't mean 'snap list' but another, possibly privileged command, which was mentioned on this list several months back. Unfortunately I failed to file the reference. Thanks. -- Paul Jones, Head of Systems Services, Information Technology Service, University of Durham, South Road, Durham DH1 3LE Email: p.s.jones(a)durham.ac.uk Phone/Fax: 0191 334 2749/2701

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RE: NDMP and IBM Tivoli
by Bui, Marcus 24 May '05

24 May '05

Mark, You can accomplish the same by 'zoning' the tape to the Filer. Connect the Filer to a SAN switch with the tape library. On the SAN switch, you zone the number of tape drives you want dedicated to the Filer. The Filer will essentially see the tape as local attached. I'm not familiar with the 349x but I would think you can 'zone' out some tape drives in the library. Good luck, Marcus Bui _____ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Crawford, Mark (CBC) Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:39 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NDMP and IBM Tivoli Does anyone backup their filers' CIFS data to IBM Tivoli (TSM) using NDMP? We have a 349x tape library connected to our Tivoli server using fiber channel. Based upon the IBM docs, we have to connect the NetApp filers directly to the 349x library. I can physically accomplish this. My question is with respect to the tape drives within the library. Our local TSM support staff are telling me that I must be physically connected to a tape drive within the library. That is not the way I am interpreting the IBM docs. Any configuration help would be appreciated. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or disclosure of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the original message. Your compliance is appreciated. ----------------------------------------- Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged material. It is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.

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NDMP and IBM Tivoli
by Crawford, Mark (CBC) 24 May '05

24 May '05

Does anyone backup their filers' CIFS data to IBM Tivoli (TSM) using NDMP? We have a 349x tape library connected to our Tivoli server using fiber channel. Based upon the IBM docs, we have to connect the NetApp filers directly to the 349x library. I can physically accomplish this. My question is with respect to the tape drives within the library. Our local TSM support staff are telling me that I must be physically connected to a tape drive within the library. That is not the way I am interpreting the IBM docs. Any configuration help would be appreciated. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or disclosure of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the original message. Your compliance is appreciated.

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by manyaya＠gemari.or.id 23 May '05

23 May '05

Dear Sir, This letter is very confidential and I hope you will receive it and give necessary considerat-ion. My name is Nicholas Batimana, former director of finance in Strategic Planning Department in the election campaign team of our former President, Mr. Didier Ratsiraka of Madagascar. During the election proper in 2002 my office received their respective budget for the election from the presidency which runs into hudge some of money. It is to be used to settle post election expenditure. Unfortunately, my boss came out of the election worse than ever, as opposition took to the street in protest with violence, This developed into a near civil war in my country. There was chaos and insecurity all over the nation. Lives were lost and properties burnt and damaged. This situation lead to ouster of the president and he went into exile in France. I have before he finally left for exile informed him that the fund was lost to the violent protesters in my office, which he accepts. During those period of anarchy I used all available means to secure the fund and sent it out to europe as it was disguised as personal cargo. It arrived safely and was since then in the custody of the agent that received it. Now I want the cargo ( that's the fund) to be released to me or my potential partner who would represent me and take delivery in europe. As am writing this letter 'am still under some level of restrictions imposed by the new regime in my country that is why its not possible for me to travel out of my country now. Some necessary amenities were denied us by the govt. such as telephone lines, (except from public booth) travelling, access our local bank accounts, and my passport. These are my reasons of contacting you to seek your assistance to represent me as my partner/beneficiary of the cargo so it will be released to you in the country which I will let you know when you have aggreed to work together with me. More details will be passed to you such as the name of the country where you will go to receive delivery, amount involved, the company's name and contact number your benefit and others as soon as I receive your possitive reply. If you have question to ask pls. 'am available to give you an answer. Finally this is very confidential letter and should be kept confidential. Hoping to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless You. Yours Truely Nicholas Batimana Alternative E-mail;bluedawater2003(a)yahoo.co.uk

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