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by Joe Everett 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

--- Steve Losen <scl(a)sasha.acc.virginia.edu> wrote: > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: NFS access problem going from 6.4.4 to 7.0.1R1 > Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:02:55 -0400 > From: Steve Losen <scl(a)sasha.acc.virginia.edu> > > > We recently replaced our F820c pair running 6.4.4 with a > FAS3050c pair running 7.0.1R1. > > Formerly we were doing something admittedly questionable to > protect unauthorized NFS mounts from networks where we do > not have complete physical control. We have a public lab > of Unix workstations that NFS mount home directories from > our filers. This is insecure because someone can bring in > a Unix laptop configured with the same IP address as a > workstation and move the network cable from the workstation > to the laptop, and thereby get NFS access on the laptop. > The laptop owner has root so he can su to any UID that he > wants, thereby getting access to any user's files. > > Our solution was to write a "netgroup server" that temporarily > added a NFS client to a netgroup just long enough for the client > to mount and then removed the client from the netgroup. Only > root on the NFS client had access to the shared secret that > authenticated the client to the netgroup server. While > not perfect, this made the laptop attack much more difficult. > > This worked fine under 6.4.4. Once the NFS client had its mounts, > it did not seem to matter to the filer that the client disappeared > from the netgroup. However, this is not the case under 7.0.1R1. > We have found that certain NFS operations cause the filer to > recheck > the netgroup information and when it discovers that the client is > no longer in the netgroup, it denies further access. > > I realize that we need to be looking at a "real" solution (NFSv4 ? > NFS over IPsec ?). But I was wondering if there was something > simple that I could do in the meantime, perhaps an obscure NFS > option on the filer. > > Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 > > University of Virginia ITC Unix Support > > >

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Unix dot-files on Windows
by Adrian Gschwend 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

Hi guys, As written before we use NetApp on Linux with NFS and CIFS for Windows, so far so good. One remaining problem is that Windows-Users keep seeing the dot-files (.gnome or whatever), which is a bit disturbing for the normal user. I thought there are some flags I can set that those files are shown as hidden files on Windows, but I couldn't find anything useful in the docs. Anyone knows how I can do that (if at all)? Again, OnTap at the moment is 6.5.4 cu Adrian -- Adrian Gschwend System Administrator Berne University of Applied Sciences Biel, Switzerland

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Index
by Alex Soo 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

Hi, Can any body help on this? I am trying to index a folder on F740 so that all user can search the folder with their window default search tools. I have a window 2003 server and a bunch of XP work station. Regards, Alex Soo CONFIDENTIAL NOTE: The information contained in this email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the mail. Thank you.

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Kerberos & sys security on the same export
by Adrian Gschwend 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

Hi all, At our university we just used NFS exports for our old Solaris 8 clients so far, now we have Linux in place on all clients and thus a lot more machines that connect to the filers with NFS. Because we are an academic environment sys-security is too weak. Some students would find out pretty fast that it is easy to boot Knoppix or connect their laptops on the same cable and try to access home directories from our professors. So we decided to use Kerberos on Linux as well (via AD Kerberos services which is connected to the filer), that works just fine with one exception: If I mix sys & krb5 security *every* client can still do sys, not just the /24 IP block I would need for the old Solaris setup. On a test-environment running on Linux I can do two exports for the exact same share, like one with sys, the second one with krb5 security. Thus I can do one sys export for the /24 IP block and a krb5 one for the rest. Unfortunately this seems not to work on NetApp, if I do two shares, the first one gets overwritten by the second one. I also tried something like this: /vol/sugus -sec=sys,rw=147.87.64.0/24,sec=krb5,rw=147.87.0.0/16 I don't get any special error messages with this export but it doesn't work as expected. Is this possible after all with OnTap? I'm running V6.5.4 on the filers. Thanks Adrian -- Adrian Gschwend System Administrator Berne University of Applied Sciences Biel, Switzerland

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rescan without reboot to locate DLT library ?
by Frank Bonnet 05 Sep '05

05 Sep '05

Hello I'am in trouble with a DLT library which is not "seen" by the filer because the DLT was not powered when the filer boot up. Is there a command to rescan the SCSI but to let the filer discover the library without reboot the toaster ? Thanks PS : the box is a F87 running 6.5.5 -- Cordialement/Regards Frank Bonnet

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RE: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
by Zabetakis, George 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

Df -----Original Message----- From: toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:toasters@mathworks.com] Sent: Thu Sep 01 00:57:18 2005 To: marc.romero(a)ibpc.fr Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail Français : Ce message a été vérifié par un filtre sur le serveur de courrier. L'original du message a été remplacé pour la raison suivante : English : This message was verified by the filtering system of our mail server. The original message was replaced for this one by the following reason : Deutsch: Diese Nachricht wurde durch den Filter unseres Mail-Servers überprüft. Die Ursprungsnachricht wurde aus folgendem Grund ausgetauscht : Italiano: Questo messaggio e' stato verificato dal sistema di filtraggio del nostro mail server. Il messaggio originale e' stato sostituito da questo per la seguente ragione : Polski : Ta wiadomoæ zosta³a sprawdzona prze system filtruj¹cy naszego serwera pocztowego. Wiadomoæ oryginalna zosta³a zast¹piona z natêpuj¹cych powodów : Turque: Bu e-posta dagiticimiz tarafindan kontrol edilmistir. Orijinal e-posta bu mesaj ile degistirilmistir. Degisrtirilme nedeni: *** A suspicious file (executable code) was found in the message ! Le message original possédait un fichier attaché : Original message had the following attached files : Die Ursprungsnachricht besass folgende Attachments : Il messaggio originale possiede i seguenti file allegati : Wiadomoæ oryginalna zawiera³a nastêpuj¹ce za³¹czniki Orijinal e-postada asagidaki ek vardi: **** (X-FILE ??? ) : Message.scr TYPE : application/octet-stream **** SUSPECT FILES : 1 Il était envoyé par Original message was sent by Sie wurde gesendet von Messaggio originale mandato da Wiadomoæ zosta³a przes³ana przez Orijinal e-posta asagidaki kisi tarafindan gonderilmistir: **** From : <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Si vous pensez que c'est une erreur et que le message n'aurait pas du être remplacé par le filtre du serveur, merci de prendre contact avec l'administrateur système. If you think this is an error and the message should not be rejected by the filtering system, you may contact your system administrator for instructions. Falls Sie der Meinung sind, es handelt sich um einen Fehler, und diese Nachricht hätte nicht durch das Filtersystem des Servers ausgetauscht werden sollen, wenden Sie sich bitte an den Systemadministrator. Se pensate che questo sia un errore e che il messaggio non dovrebbe essere respinto dal sistema di filtraggio, puo' contattare l'amministratore sistema per istruzioni. Jeli uwa¿a Pan/Pani, ¿e pope³niono b³¹d i wiadomoæ nie powinna byæ odrzucona proszê skontaktowaæ siê z Administratorem. Orijinal e-postanin reddedilmesinin bir yanlislik oldugunu dusunuyorsaniz, ne yapilmasi gerektigi hakkinda sistem yoneticisiyle baglanti kurunuz. Si vous avez des questions vous pouvez contacter : If you have any questions, you can contact us : Bei weiteren Fragen wenden Sie sich bitte an : Inviare quesiti eventuali a : Jeli ma Pan/Pani pytania mo¿e Pan/Pani skontaktowaæ siê z : Sorulariniz icin Marc.Romero(a)ibpc.fr ile baglanti kurabilirsiniz. Marc.Romero(a)ibpc.fr Cordialement, Sincerely, Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Cordiali saluti, Z powa¿aniem Saygilarimla, Marc ROMERO ---------------------------------------------------------------- j-chkmail - (c) Ecole des Mines de Paris 2002, 2003

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Mail System Error - Returned Mail
by toasters＠mathworks.com 01 Sep '05

01 Sep '05

Fran�ais : Ce message a �t� v�rifi� par un filtre sur le serveur de courrier. L'original du message a �t� remplac� pour la raison suivante : English : This message was verified by the filtering system of our mail server. The original message was replaced for this one by the following reason : Deutsch: Diese Nachricht wurde durch den Filter unseres Mail-Servers �berpr�ft. Die Ursprungsnachricht wurde aus folgendem Grund ausgetauscht : Italiano: Questo messaggio e' stato verificato dal sistema di filtraggio del nostro mail server. Il messaggio originale e' stato sostituito da questo per la seguente ragione : Polski : Ta wiadomo� zosta�a sprawdzona prze system filtruj�cy naszego serwera pocztowego. Wiadomo� oryginalna zosta�a zast�piona z nat�puj�cych powod�w : Turque: Bu e-posta dagiticimiz tarafindan kontrol edilmistir. Orijinal e-posta bu mesaj ile degistirilmistir. Degisrtirilme nedeni: *** A suspicious file (executable code) was found in the message ! Le message original poss�dait un fichier attach� : Original message had the following attached files : Die Ursprungsnachricht besass folgende Attachments : Il messaggio originale possiede i seguenti file allegati : Wiadomo� oryginalna zawiera�a nast�puj�ce za��czniki Orijinal e-postada asagidaki ek vardi: **** (X-FILE ??? ) : Message.scr TYPE : application/octet-stream **** SUSPECT FILES : 1 Il �tait envoy� par Original message was sent by Sie wurde gesendet von Messaggio originale mandato da Wiadomo� zosta�a przes�ana przez Orijinal e-posta asagidaki kisi tarafindan gonderilmistir: **** From : <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Si vous pensez que c'est une erreur et que le message n'aurait pas du �tre remplac� par le filtre du serveur, merci de prendre contact avec l'administrateur syst�me. If you think this is an error and the message should not be rejected by the filtering system, you may contact your system administrator for instructions. Falls Sie der Meinung sind, es handelt sich um einen Fehler, und diese Nachricht h�tte nicht durch das Filtersystem des Servers ausgetauscht werden sollen, wenden Sie sich bitte an den Systemadministrator. Se pensate che questo sia un errore e che il messaggio non dovrebbe essere respinto dal sistema di filtraggio, puo' contattare l'amministratore sistema per istruzioni. Jeli uwa�a Pan/Pani, �e pope�niono b��d i wiadomo� nie powinna by� odrzucona prosz� skontaktowa� si� z Administratorem. Orijinal e-postanin reddedilmesinin bir yanlislik oldugunu dusunuyorsaniz, ne yapilmasi gerektigi hakkinda sistem yoneticisiyle baglanti kurunuz. Si vous avez des questions vous pouvez contacter : If you have any questions, you can contact us : Bei weiteren Fragen wenden Sie sich bitte an : Inviare quesiti eventuali a : Jeli ma Pan/Pani pytania mo�e Pan/Pani skontaktowa� si� z : Sorulariniz icin Marc.Romero(a)ibpc.fr ile baglanti kurabilirsiniz. Marc.Romero(a)ibpc.fr Cordialement, Sincerely, Mit freundlichen Gr�ssen, Cordiali saluti, Z powa�aniem Saygilarimla, Marc ROMERO ---------------------------------------------------------------- j-chkmail - (c) Ecole des Mines de Paris 2002, 2003

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CIFS vs NFS performance.
by Jerry 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

Here's the story... Lately I've been getting a lot of requests for CIFS services on my filer. Until recently I have been able to avoid a lot of windows interaction but that time is coming close to an end. Does anyone have any major issues with CIFS, does it kill CPU and how reliable is it in general? Basically I'm looking for an overall feeling. The reason I ask is I'm unimpressed with the HTTP daemon built into the filer and I'm not confident in it's abilities to do other things besides NFS without personal experience with it. Jerry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: CIFS vs NFS performance.
by Luke Howard 31 Aug '05

31 Aug '05

>I run some CIFS sessions, probably not enough to judge performance vs. a >server / LUN config but there's two reasons why I limit my CIFS services >- Group Policies and security. NetApp CIFS doesn't support GPO's and >Kerberos security. ONTAP does support Kerberos security. And I expect that it's possible to serve the filesystem component of a GPO from a filer (I've never tried, but if it works with Samba it likely works with ONTAP). -- Luke --

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RE: CIFS vs NFS performance.
by Haber, David J. 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

Jerry: I have two filers running nothing but CIFS. We have about 4,000 user home directories and 3 TB of Group Shares on an 840, and about 2TB of Group Shareson an 820. Performance is excellent; I/O's run between 2500-4,000 max; CPU usaage is generally under 50%. It's higher (sometimes 100%) when a snap mirror is taking place. It is very reliable. Our only downtime over the past 4 years has been to do OnTap upgrades. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:27 PM To: list toasters Subject: CIFS vs NFS performance. Here's the story... Lately I've been getting a lot of requests for CIFS services on my filer. Until recently I have been able to avoid a lot of windows interaction but that time is coming close to an end. Does anyone have any major issues with CIFS, does it kill CPU and how reliable is it in general? Basically I'm looking for an overall feeling. The reason I ask is I'm unimpressed with the HTTP daemon built into the filer and I'm not confident in it's abilities to do other things besides NFS without personal experience with it. Jerry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Confidentiality Notice: This message, and any attachments, may contain information that is confidential, privileged, and/or protected from disclosure under state and federal laws that deal with the privacy and security of medical information. If you received this message in error or through inappropriate means, please reply to this message to notify the Sender that the message was received by you in error, and then permanently delete this message from all storage media, without forwarding or retaining a copy.

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RE: CIFS vs NFS performance.
by Johnson, John T. 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

I run some CIFS sessions, probably not enough to judge performance vs. a server / LUN config but there's two reasons why I limit my CIFS services - Group Policies and security. NetApp CIFS doesn't support GPO's and Kerberos security. This may not pose an issue in your environment but we use GPO's to secure certain areas of our servers and deploy software so we can only use it for a limited set of circumstances. Another side-effect I've noticed is that it seems that any changes made to a CIFS session requires the CIFS service to be restarted. But with my limited exposure to CIFS, there may be some work-a-rounds I'm not familiar with. Good luck, John. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:27 PM To: list toasters Subject: CIFS vs NFS performance. Here's the story... Lately I've been getting a lot of requests for CIFS services on my filer. Until recently I have been able to avoid a lot of windows interaction but that time is coming close to an end. Does anyone have any major issues with CIFS, does it kill CPU and how reliable is it in general? Basically I'm looking for an overall feeling. The reason I ask is I'm unimpressed with the HTTP daemon built into the filer and I'm not confident in it's abilities to do other things besides NFS without personal experience with it. Jerry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: CIFS vs NFS performance.
by Sphar, Mike 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

I've been using NFS and CIFS on filers for years now and I've never noticed any significant problems with CIFS performance. Honestly, the main reason we went with netapps initially is we needed an appliance that could simultaneously serve files over NFS and CIFS with some support for cross-platform file-locking. One caveat is I personally would not recommend using Mixed Mode for security, personally, but that may be just me. -- Michael W. Sphar - IS&T - Lead Systems Administrator SMBU Engineering Support Services, BMC Software -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:27 PM To: list toasters Subject: CIFS vs NFS performance. Here's the story... Lately I've been getting a lot of requests for CIFS services on my filer. Until recently I have been able to avoid a lot of windows interaction but that time is coming close to an end. Does anyone have any major issues with CIFS, does it kill CPU and how reliable is it in general? Basically I'm looking for an overall feeling. The reason I ask is I'm unimpressed with the HTTP daemon built into the filer and I'm not confident in it's abilities to do other things besides NFS without personal experience with it. Jerry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: CIFS vs NFS performance.
by Callaway, Michael 30 Aug '05

30 Aug '05

In our shop, we are all windows and started with CIFS, so it's old hat to us. We picked up http for image grabs on a web based app about a year ago or so. As far as performance and usage, we have had little to no problems with cifs. The only "issue" I can think of is one time when we had a temp need for space, we dropped an oracle DB on cifs and a drive was failed during that period of time and cifs hiccupped for a few seconds, which oracle did not like. This was on an R200(sata) filer. I don't personally feel that cifs has a lot of overhead and performance issues that will slow down your environment, "just because it's cifs and it's scary". I could speak to more specific questions, if you have any. Thanks, Michael NTTA/IT http://www.ntta.org 214.461.2033 -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:27 PM To: list toasters Subject: CIFS vs NFS performance. Here's the story... Lately I've been getting a lot of requests for CIFS services on my filer. Until recently I have been able to avoid a lot of windows interaction but that time is coming close to an end. Does anyone have any major issues with CIFS, does it kill CPU and how reliable is it in general? Basically I'm looking for an overall feeling. The reason I ask is I'm unimpressed with the HTTP daemon built into the filer and I'm not confident in it's abilities to do other things besides NFS without personal experience with it. Jerry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: Memory error
by Warkentin, Grant 28 Aug '05

28 Aug '05

without doing research on the error... Looks like you had a parity error on one memory module. Looks like this error was corrected by the ECC stuff. May have to replace dimm j27. NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Alan Sparks Sent: 2005 Aug 26 10:42 PM To: Toasters List Subject: Memory error Can someone help me interpret this error message from a 760 filer head? Beyond "it's a memory error," that is... Is this difficult/expensive to fix? Thanks in advance. -Alan [netapp2: raid_xor_server:CRITICAL]: 1 CORR PROC ERR 86 eia:17295c00 fs:f400 eis:c5000000 isr:100000000 CPU ECC error on DIMM J27 at address=0x17295c0f, bit=31. -- Alan Sparks, UNIX/Linux Systems Integration and Administration <asparks(a)doublesparks.net>

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FTP Authentication/Authorisation in OnTap 7.0.1
by Simon Daykin 28 Aug '05

28 Aug '05

Hi all, Got a strange issue... We need to have some local username and passwords to allow things (services etc) to FTP to our filers to get/put files. No great shakes I thought, however I have a little problem. Unless the volume and qtree security style is set to UNIX, I get permission denied. E.g. I have a user in our /etc/passwd file, with a homedir configured as /vol/ftptest/. If volume ftptest is set to UNIX security, then I can log in via FTP with the username/password in /etc/passwd and list/put/get files etc without a problem. The second I set the security on the volume to "mixed", it all stops, and every FTP command including "ls" returns "insufficient privileges". Put it back to unix, and hey presdo. Whys this an issue? Well a) some of the things that we are going to need to FTP to/from are in mixed volumes, and b) I will need a couple of directories that will be accessable via FTP and a CIFS share. If it helps, we are not licensed for NFS, only CIFS. Any ideas? Thanks, Simon BTW, have a case open with NetApp, but I am still working on it with them... ****************************************************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment is intended solely for the addressee, is strictly confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. If you are not the addressee please do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it or any attachments. Instead, please email it back to the sender and then immediately permanently delete it. Please email postmaster(a)portman.co.uk if you need assistance. To find out more about us please visit: www.portman.co.uk Portman Building Society reserves the right to monitor and inspect e-mails sent to and by its employees at any time for lawful business practices. Portman Building Society, Head Office: Portman House, Richmond Hill, Bournemouth BH2 6EP. Portman Building Society is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (Register Number 158696). (www.fsa.gov.uk/register). The Mortgage Works is a trading name of The Mortgage Works (UK) plc, registered in England number 2222856. Registered address, Portman House, Richmond Hill, Bournemouth BH2 6EP. The Mortgage Works is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (Register Number 189623). Portman Channel Islands Ltd is registered in Guernsey number 25871. Registered address, Suite 5 North, Town Mills, La Rue Du Pre, St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands GY1 3TR. The Mortgage Works and Portman Channel Islands Ltd are part of the Portman Building Society Group. ******************************************************************************************************

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RE: So long and thanks for all the bytes
by Sphar, Mike 27 Aug '05

27 Aug '05

My guess would be "Get approved by penny-pinching management". I know I've had many times where I've had to fight for keeping/upgrading a netapp over objections such as "Well, I could just buy a bunch of cheap disks and a server at Fry's to do the same thing!" Things like those stupid SNAP Servers don't help either. We had to move a bunch of stuff to one of those a while back over my objections. Fast forward a couple months and the SNAP Server loses a disk, which somehow causes it to actually crash and corrupt most of the data (which wasn't all being backed up yet because we were still fighting with a weird permission problem trying to get NFS backups to work.) Bear in mind the ancient F230 that we moved data *from* has never experienced any data loss like that, and is in fact still running. Now when people talk about putting something on the SNAP server I just say "Yeah, good luck with that" and I keep putting my stuff on my good friend Mr F940. -- Michael W. Sphar - IS&T - Lead Systems Administrator SMBU Engineering Support Services, BMC Software -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mohler Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:29 AM To: Simon Waters; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: So long and thanks for all the bytes So what can W2k3 do that an F720 cannot? On 8/26/05 4:20 AM, "Simon Waters" <simonw(a)zynet.net> wrote: > Thanks for the help over the years. > > Expect rather tired F720 with lots of 18 and 36 Gb to appear on Ebay shortly > ;) > > And no I don't like Windows 2003 storage stuff :( But it does all fit in an > eighth of the rack space, and 6 disk drives. > > Simon > >

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Memory error
by Alan Sparks 27 Aug '05

27 Aug '05

Can someone help me interpret this error message from a 760 filer head? Beyond "it's a memory error," that is... Is this difficult/expensive to fix? Thanks in advance. -Alan [netapp2: raid_xor_server:CRITICAL]: 1 CORR PROC ERR 86 eia:17295c00 fs:f400 eis:c5000000 isr:100000000 CPU ECC error on DIMM J27 at address=0x17295c0f, bit=31. -- Alan Sparks, UNIX/Linux Systems Integration and Administration <asparks(a)doublesparks.net>

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RE: So long and thanks for all the bytes
by Palmer, Jason 26 Aug '05

26 Aug '05

Your Q. >>>>> So what can W2k3 do that an F720 cannot? <<<<< Run appliacations and crash spectacually is what that is good at. It can also store data... Ok we admit that ! My Q. >>>>> So what can an F720 do that an W2K3 cannot? <<<<< Serve data, and serve data well. It is an appliance, designed for that purpose. ONTAP even offloads other functions such as Virus Scanning etc... So that the Appliance can get on and do its job well. So, I guess W2K3 can do most things, fairly OK but not as well as an appliance specialising in those tasks. Your Comment >>>>> And no I don't like Windows 2003 storage stuff :( But it does all fit in an eighth of the rack space, and 6 disk drives. <<<<< Trade up to a FAS270(c)up to 4Tb in one 3u shelf, with all the filer intelligence and not a START button in sight :o) -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Sphar, Mike Sent: 26 August 2005 16:05 To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: So long and thanks for all the bytes My guess would be "Get approved by penny-pinching management". I know I've had many times where I've had to fight for keeping/upgrading a netapp over objections such as "Well, I could just buy a bunch of cheap disks and a server at Fry's to do the same thing!" Things like those stupid SNAP Servers don't help either. We had to move a bunch of stuff to one of those a while back over my objections. Fast forward a couple months and the SNAP Server loses a disk, which somehow causes it to actually crash and corrupt most of the data (which wasn't all being backed up yet because we were still fighting with a weird permission problem trying to get NFS backups to work.) Bear in mind the ancient F230 that we moved data *from* has never experienced any data loss like that, and is in fact still running. Now when people talk about putting something on the SNAP server I just say "Yeah, good luck with that" and I keep putting my stuff on my good friend Mr F940. -- Michael W. Sphar - IS&T - Lead Systems Administrator SMBU Engineering Support Services, BMC Software -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mohler Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:29 AM To: Simon Waters; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: So long and thanks for all the bytes So what can W2k3 do that an F720 cannot? On 8/26/05 4:20 AM, "Simon Waters" <simonw(a)zynet.net> wrote: > Thanks for the help over the years. > > Expect rather tired F720 with lots of 18 and 36 Gb to appear on Ebay shortly > ;) > > And no I don't like Windows 2003 storage stuff :( But it does all fit in an > eighth of the rack space, and 6 disk drives. > > Simon > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained herein is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender either via the company switchboard on +44 (0)20 7623 8000, or via e-mail return. If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. 3167 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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So long and thanks for all the bytes
by Simon Waters 26 Aug '05

26 Aug '05

Thanks for the help over the years. Expect rather tired F720 with lots of 18 and 36 Gb to appear on Ebay shortly ;) And no I don't like Windows 2003 storage stuff :( But it does all fit in an eighth of the rack space, and 6 disk drives. Simon

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mbstat
by Mats.Oberg＠tietoenator.com 26 Aug '05

26 Aug '05

Hi, I've been running the perfstat.sh script from the now site, and in the middle of the script, something called "mbstat" gets run. Looking at the output from this it seems that our filer is running out of buffers for the primary network interface (e11b in this case). Is my interpretation correct or is this just normal values? ================================================================= =-=-=-=-=-= PERF fs001 PRESTATS =-=-=-=-=-= mbstat System pool small bufs: free 2379 (out of 2400), borrowed 0 mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 / System pool small bufs: free 2379 (out of 2400), borrowed 0 mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 System pool large bufs: free 7803 (out of 24033), borrowed 16195 mallocs 863400249, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 Private pool e0: free 228 (out of 1764) mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 Private pool e11a: free 228 (out of 1764) mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 0 Private pool e11b: free 0 (out of 1764) <====== looks like we are out of free buffers.... mallocs 0, drains 0 (success 0), waits 0, drops 15107 28526 total mbufs 21087 MT_DATA 7439 MT_FREE Descriptor mbuf: total 28476, mallocs 1317717, drops 0 Old style mbuf: total 50, mallocs 15074, drops 0 nfs: request 0 ip reassembly: 0 frags, 0 pkts ================================================================== Could this be why we see strange hangs when accessing an nfsmounted directory for the first time in a while? And if that is indeed the case, is there anything I can do to improve the performance? / Mats

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Mail System Error - Returned Mail
by new＠amazon.com 25 Aug '05

25 Aug '05

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