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RE: Deleting Qtrees
by Kimminau_Eric＠emc.com 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

Hi! There is a completely unsupported method to actually accomplish this on the filer itself. 1) Get to a command prompt 2) priv set advanced 3) java netapp.cmds.jsh This works on the Simulators as well. netapp1*> java netapp.cmds.jsh jsh> ls etc home source .ha stuff jsh> ls -la drwx------ 14 0 61440 Apr 12 2004 08:36:52 etc drwxrwxrwx 2 0 4096 Nov 17 2003 07:39:40 home drwxrwxrwx 5 0 4096 Mar 24 2004 13:21:21 source dr-------- 2 0 4096 Feb 09 2004 10:02:18 .ha drwxrwxrwx 5 0 4096 Mar 15 2004 14:12:47 stuff jsh> cd etc jsh> cat hosts #Generated by setup Mon Nov 31 11:50:17 EST 2005 #Auto-generated by setup Fri Jan 23 14:12:57 GMT 2004 127.0.0.1 localhost # 0.0.0.0 netapp1-ns1 192.168.99.10 filer1 192.168.99.11 netapp1 I believe rm is an available command within that shell. YMMV. Again, this is unsupported so don't blame me if it breaks. -- ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7 Eric Kimminau Email: Kimminau_Eric(a)emc.com Senior Corp. Sales Engineer Cell: 248.766.9921 Rainfinity, an EMC Company Office: 248.393.8037 www.rainfinity.com Optimizing Networked Storage ---------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6---------7 Tech support US: 1-800-479-9880 rssupport(a)rainfinity.com KnowledgeBase: http://www.rainfinity.com/private/customer/ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Bekkay, > Hasni H SITI-ITIBHL > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:29 AM > To: Steve Losen; Patrick van Helden > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: RE: Deleting Qtrees > > Hi, > you cannot delete the qtree from the filer, as far as netapp, > qtree is treated as normal directory and you can only deleted > from cifs or NFS as you mentioned below.... > > Hasni. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com > [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Steve Losen > Sent: donderdag 1 december 2005 14:01 > To: Patrick van Helden > Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: Re: Deleting Qtrees > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone have any information about deleting qtrees from > the filer? For example with the rm command? > > > > From a Unix NFS client you can use "rm -r" to remove a qtree. > > There isn't an ONTAP command to do it on the filer. You use a > NFS or CIFS client to remove the qtree directory. > > Don't forget to update your quotas file to remove entries for > the deleted qtree. Then you should run "quota off" and "quota on". > There is a bug that crashes the filer if you run "quota > resize" after a particular sequence of qtree deletions and > quota file updates. > Your version of ONTAP may have this bug fixed. We crashed a > filer running 7.0.1R1 due to this bug. > > Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 > > University of Virginia ITC Unix Support > > > >

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http procotol on filer
by Jerry 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

Is anyone using it. I am using it in a production environment and it sorta sucks. I realized when migrating to new filers this is actually a pay protocol. So 2 questions 1) anyone using it in a heavy manner (and your thoughts on it) 2) anyone think it's worth the money to pay for it vs throw some webservers in front of it. __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/

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RE: Deleting Qtrees
by Bekkay, Hasni H SITI-ITIBHL 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

Hi, you cannot delete the qtree from the filer, as far as netapp, qtree is treated as normal directory and you can only deleted from cifs or NFS as you mentioned below.... Hasni. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Steve Losen Sent: donderdag 1 december 2005 14:01 To: Patrick van Helden Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Deleting Qtrees > Hi, > > Does anyone have any information about deleting qtrees from the filer? For example with the rm command? > From a Unix NFS client you can use "rm -r" to remove a qtree. There isn't an ONTAP command to do it on the filer. You use a NFS or CIFS client to remove the qtree directory. Don't forget to update your quotas file to remove entries for the deleted qtree. Then you should run "quota off" and "quota on". There is a bug that crashes the filer if you run "quota resize" after a particular sequence of qtree deletions and quota file updates. Your version of ONTAP may have this bug fixed. We crashed a filer running 7.0.1R1 due to this bug. Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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"Failed" disks on old FC9 shelf
by Ronan Mullally 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

I'm trying to resurrect an old F760 with two FC9 shelves. Both shelves have got 33GB disks in them. One shelf is recognised fine by the filer, the disks in the other are all shown as failed. It's been a long time since I had a filer to play with, so I suspect there may be some configuration / formatting issue causing the problem rather than dead disks. When I boot the filer I get the following: error 19 (disk not ready for requested operation) while reading ownership on disk 1.8 (S/N 3CD1K2JW000021304AR5) error 19 (disk not ready for requested operation) on disk 1.8 (S/N 3CD1K2JW000021304AR5) while reading individual disk ownership area (repeated for each disk on the second shelf) Disk 1.22 Shelf ? Bay ? [NETAPP X231_ST336704FC NA41] S/N [3CD1JAGA00002131841C] initialization failed. (repeated for each disk on the second shelf) No SCSI-3 Enclosure Services on channel 1 shelf 2. Check drive placement. Enclosure services unable to contact shelf attached to channel 1. After booting, the filer shows: filer> sysconfig -d Device HA SHELF BAY CHAN Disk Vital Product Information ---------- --------------- ----- ------------------------------ 1.0 1 0 0 FC:A 3CD1KE26000021316WPE 1.1 1 0 1 FC:A 3CD1JYX50000213195LS 1.2 1 0 2 FC:A 3CD1JH0Y0000213194GM 1.3 1 0 3 FC:A 3CD1JYTE0000213033L5 1.4 1 0 4 FC:A 3CD1K8NL0000213033NS 1.5 1 0 5 FC:A 3CD1JWFW000021316UD1 1.6 1 0 6 FC:A 3CD1JYAM0000213033G3 1.8 1 1 0 FC:A Not available. 1.9 1 1 1 FC:A Not available. 1.10 1 1 2 FC:A Not available. 1.11 1 1 3 FC:A Not available. 1.12 1 1 4 FC:A Not available. 1.13 1 1 5 FC:A Not available. 1.14 1 1 6 FC:A Not available. filer> storage show disk DISK SHELF BAY SERIAL VENDOR MODEL REV --------------------- --------- ---------------- -------- ---------- ---- 1.0 0 0 3CD1KE26000021316WPE NETAPP X231_ST336 NA42 1.1 0 1 3CD1JYX50000213195LS NETAPP X231_ST336 NA42 1.2 0 2 3CD1JH0Y0000213194GM NETAPP X231_ST336 NA42 1.3 0 3 3CD1JYTE0000213033L5 NETAPP X231_ST336 NA42 1.4 0 4 3CD1K8NL0000213033NS NETAPP X231_ST336 NA42 1.5 0 5 3CD1JWFW000021316UD1 NETAPP X231_ST336 NA42 1.6 0 6 3CD1JYAM0000213033G3 NETAPP X231_ST336 NA42 1.8 1 0 3CD1K2JW000021304AR5 NETAPP X231_ST336 NA41 1.9 1 1 3CD1F30H00002127J1TG NETAPP X231_ST336 NA41 1.10 1 2 3CD1J4Z10000213184M1 NETAPP X231_ST336 NA41 1.11 1 3 3CD1JXXH000021316VQC NETAPP X231_ST336 NA41 1.12 1 4 3CD1NTN100007115KWLC NETAPP X231_ST336 NA41 1.13 1 5 3CD1JG2Y0000213182UR NETAPP X231_ST336 NA41 1.14 1 6 3CD1JAGA00002131841C NETAPP X231_ST336 NA41 I've moved disks from shelf 1 to shelf 2 where they appear to work okay. Disks moved from shelf 2 to shelf 1 remain dead. I've tried booting into maintenance mode and reformatting the dead disks. This resulted in an lots of fun and games trying to recover from the 512 byte sector size that the disks were formatted with. Has anybody got any ideas? I'm hoping it's something reasonably straightforward... -Ronan

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RE: Deleting Qtrees
by Crawford, Mark (CBC) 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

From Unix on an NFS mount, use "rm -rf <path to qtree>". This will delete all files and subdirectories without prompting. From Windows on a CIFS mount, use "rd <path to qtree> /s/q". This will delete all files and subdirectories without prompting. For CIFS, you must stop and shares within the specific qtree structure. "cifs shares -delete <sharename>". -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Losen Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:01 AM To: Patrick van Helden Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Deleting Qtrees > Hi, > > Does anyone have any information about deleting qtrees from the filer? For example with the rm command? > From a Unix NFS client you can use "rm -r" to remove a qtree. There isn't an ONTAP command to do it on the filer. You use a NFS or CIFS client to remove the qtree directory. Don't forget to update your quotas file to remove entries for the deleted qtree. Then you should run "quota off" and "quota on". There is a bug that crashes the filer if you run "quota resize" after a particular sequence of qtree deletions and quota file updates. Your version of ONTAP may have this bug fixed. We crashed a filer running 7.0.1R1 due to this bug. Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or disclosure of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the original message. Your compliance is appreciated.

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RE: Deleting Qtrees
by Holland, William L 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

A Qtree is simply a folder with special attributes. Use whatever client you would use to access the shared volume and delete it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:pvh@databasement.nl] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:56 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Deleting Qtrees Hi, Does anyone have any information about deleting qtrees from the filer? For example with the rm command? Regards, Patrick

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Deleting Qtrees
by Patrick van Helden 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

Hi, Does anyone have any information about deleting qtrees from the filer? For example with the rm command? Regards, Patrick

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RE: QLA2340 in FCP mode w/SD
by Varghese, John 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

Found the answer: Even in FCP world, you will have to set a preferredIP address. The procedure to do this is as follows: http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb4350 <http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb4350> By setting a PreferredIP address, you will prevent VIFs from flaking out Snapdrive MUST have an Ethernet connection to the filer regardless of the SAN implementation. The Snapdrive "Command & Control" traffic will not flow across the SAN. Snapdrive is using ZAPI and CIFS calls to communicate with the filer and that can only travel over a public Ethernet connection.

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QLA2340 in FCP mode w/SD
by Varghese, John 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

I installed two QLA HBA in a FCP SAN. I went to install MPIO license and then rebooted the servers. Now I can't manage the luns in SD; however, I can see the drives in 'My computer' Originally I thought it may be a SANSurfer or Host Attach Kit issue, but that doesn't seem to be the case. It appears that SD uses the UNC path to make the initial connection. Since I had VIFs enabled, it seemed like the path was failing somehow. Has anyone else seen this happen or does anyone know why SD needs to use the UNC path to make the connection. What if my ether-switches die? Does that mean I will not be able to manage my drives in SD? Thanks, JV John Varghese Sr. Engineer Select, Inc. Select : StrategIT 1-800-634-1806 ext. 213 1-781-461-2766 (fax) John.Varghese(a)Strategit.com www.strategit.com <http://www.strategit.com/>

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by daniel_ngoye＠virgilio.it 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

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Any luck finding NetApp NACA 7.0 certification questions?
by sarath g 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

Hi, I found your messages, i am looking for NetApp 7.0 certification NACA useful questions or material, i can help on Veritas foundation suite, which i am going for exam next week. Awaiting for your earliest response please. Thanks & rgds, Sarath. ---------------------------- I fond the NetApp exams to be probably some of the best in regards to the following: 1) They do not ask questions that are on notes in the training materials. 2) The questions are all on relavent information that is contained in the training materials 3) There are 5 questions related to experience in working with the Filer This is done to help eliminate the 'paper' certifications. 4) On the above experience questions should not cause you to fail if you have studied the training material. 5) After any of the exams I've been able to go to the training material and find the answer rather easily. From other vendors, I am still looking for answers to. Good Luck on the Exams. I also hear that NetApp is changing the Certification Process yet again. Alan, NACE -----Original Message----- From: ">owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:">owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jacek Nogala Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:28 AM To: ">toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New certification path (NACP/NACA) Some time ago I have passed exams required for NetApp Certified Professional certification. Unfortunately NetApp does not permit for any upgrades to new path and I have to pass new exams from scratch. Can anyone share with me some experience from new exams (I am not asking about explicit questions or other secret stuff)? My past experience was not very good: 1. due small number of questions (30 per exam) it is not so difficult to fail exam by simple mistake or obscure question 2. I have found several question that (without aby doubts) could not be answered without additional data AFAIK problem no 1 is still valid... Best regards, Jacek --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

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26 Nov '05

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Netapp 18GB FC9 drives cheap
by Leeds, Daniel 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Thought id see if anyone on the list needs any 18GB drives from an FC9 shelf/7xx series filer? $5 each plus shipping. they are all in good working order but just sitting here im sure someone can use them. thanks

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NetApp searches?
by Stewart, John 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

We've got about a half terabyte of data on our F740 in our main office. The folks over in our remote office also access this via a T1. The remote guys would like to be able to do quicker searches through much of this data, probably just by filename. Is there a native NetApp search tool? Any other recommendations? One of the engineers has asked I just do a cron job every night of a complete file listing into a file... but I think this is something that might not even run overnight, we've got so many files. thanks johnS

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RE: Netapp Searches ?
by Lai, Derek 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Endeca, Verity, Autonomy and Fast are a few other companies that have good search products. Yes, you should definitely consider an off the shelf package that takes security into consideration. Endeca is interesting in that it not only does keyword search, but it also does category navigation so if you don't have the exact thing that you are searching for you can still find things pretty quick. Derek ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Wilbur Castro Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:34 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Netapp Searches ? Have you considered using something like Kazeon (www.kazeon.com) or google search appliance ? These appliances can crawl your filers and index file attributes (and content) and are security aware. You could also use them for ILM type applications... Wilbur John said: We've got about a half terabyte of data on our F740 in our main office. The folks over in our remote office also access this via a T1. The remote guys would like to be able to do quicker searches through much of this data, probably just by filename. Is there a native NetApp search tool? Any other recommendations? One of the engineers has asked I just do a cron job every night of a complete file listing into a file... but I think this is something that might not even run overnight, we've got so many files. thanks johnS

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Re: Netapp Searches ?
by Wilbur Castro 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Have you considered using something like Kazeon (www.kazeon.com<http://www.kazeon.com>) or google search appliance ? These appliances can crawl your filers and index file attributes (and content) and are security aware. You could also use them for ILM type applications... Wilbur John said: We've got about a half terabyte of data on our F740 in our main office. The folks over in our remote office also access this via a T1. The remote guys would like to be able to do quicker searches through much of this data, probably just by filename. Is there a native NetApp search tool? Any other recommendations? One of the engineers has asked I just do a cron job every night of a complete file listing into a file... but I think this is something that might not even run overnight, we've got so many files. thanks johnS

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NDMP and Veritas 6.0 ...
by Waters, G Scott RDECOM(THE LOG.SEC TEAM) 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Hi ... Good or bad, right or wrong I have never been involved with backups of the Filers that I Admin. It was a decision made long time ago and nobody has ever decided to change/fix it. Anyway, the backup folks upgraded from Veritas NetBackup 5.x to the new 6.0. Since then the backups have not worked reliably. They have involved me now and I am looking for anyone that may have any information. So far all the information that I have been given is that the backups fail with an error 86. This may be related so I am going to ask - we have a SpectraLogic 64000 and they have been emulating a 1000 because when we purchased the 64000 it was not supported by the Filer. Is that still true ... can they stop using emulation? And, in the same line, they are using some sort of emulation on the tape drives as well ... the drives are AIT-4 Sony SDX-900v's. Are they supported?? Sorry to sound so ignorant on this - but as I said earlier, I have not been involved in this aspect of the Filer (until now). And I'm willing to do some digging - pointing me in the right direction would even be helpful. Thanks. - Scott W.

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NTP Software
by Tim Kazsuk 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Toasters, No, not Network Time Protocol. Does anyone have any thoughts / comments / experience with NTP Software QFS or NTP Software Storage M&A (www.ntpsoftware.com<http://www.ntpsoftware.com>)? Has anyone even heard of them? The response from a couple guys at NetApp, when I asked, was "What /Who ?", which doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. They've been contacting us since we first purchased our Filers 3 years ago and I wanted to see what the members of this list thought before even getting a eval. Below are some quick highlights on each product. NTP Software QFS: - Prevent unwanted files - Real-time quota and disk policies - Simple enterprise administration - End User support infrastructure NTP Software Storage M&A: - Risk measurement - Trending and projections - Detail file level reporting - Action item reports Thanks for your time. Tim

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Off-topic: SNAP Server mailing list
by eh＠dataconnection.com 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

> I have an out of maintenance SNAP server that's partly broken, and I > want to repair. > > Now, stop laughing. > > Obviously I'd rather I had a Netapp instead. > > I'm looking for a mailing list/experts on SNAP servers, but failing to > find any. Does anyone have any pointers? > > Edward.

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Off-topic: SNAP Server mailing list
by Edward Hibbert 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

I have an out of maintenance SNAP server that's partly broken, and I want to repair. Now, stop laughing. Obviously I'd rather I had a Netapp instead. I'm looking for a mailing list/experts on SNAP servers, but failing to find any. Does anyone have any pointers? Edward.

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19 Nov '05

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Is anyone using IPSEC between a filer and Solaris 10 ?
by Steve Losen 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

If anyone has IPSEC working between a filer (I'm running 7.0.1R1) and Solaris 10, I would love to see your config. On Solaris: /etc/inet/ipsecinit.conf (config file for ipsecconf) /etc/inet/ike/conf (config file for in.iked) /etc/inet/secret/ike.preshared (hide your pre shared keys of course!) On the filer: /etc/psk.txt (hide pre shared keys!) Output of: ipsec policy show ipsec sa show Am I missing anything? I want to use the IPSEC AH protocol to verify the identity of some Solaris NFS clients in a lab with a physically insecure network. Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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Block-Level Backup of Filer Volumes
by Ben Rockwood 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

I'm looking into various methods for tape backup of our filers. Due to the large number of files a file level backup would be significantly slower than a block-level backup method, however I'm not sure if one exists. I was hoping someone could clarify. NDMP utilizes dump, which is file-based so that doesn't solve the performance issues, and from what I can tell SnapVault is only for disk-to-disk backup, not tape. Even if I direct connect a tape robot to the filer I'd still be using dump and the throughput isn't being limited by the network capacity, so that doesn't help either. I'm hoping there is a block-level method I'm unaware of. NDMP in my tests has been dog slow and standard backups via NFS mount don't sound appealing. Suggestions are welcome. benr.

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by Nigel Burmeister 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

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RE: Block-Level Backup of Filer Volumes
by Palmer, Jason 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

John> There is a tool, which I just found out about, which lets you snapmirror/snapvault to a file, which can then be written to tape. It would be nicer if it could write to tape from the start, but that's just a detail. Do you have the name of this tool or a link to where we can get it ? Obviously it allows for the reverse to be done ? Recreate the snapmirror / snapvault data back in a volume from the file that was created ? Jason -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of John Stoffel Sent: 15 November 2005 13:44 To: Ben Rockwood Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Block-Level Backup of Filer Volumes Ben> I'm looking into various methods for tape backup of our filers. Actually, you're looking for ways to restore your filers from a backup in a short amount of time. Now, the question is how do you get that data into a format which can be restored quickly? And at no (or little) extra budget I bet. :] Ben> Due to the large number of files a file level backup would be Ben> significantly slower than a block-level backup method, however I'm Ben> not sure if one exists. We currently do backups over NFS, we have a couple of file systems with 10-15 million files. Mostly small ones. And yes, they are poorly laid out and configured. But I can't change them either. Ben> I was hoping someone could clarify. Me too! It's a perennial issue, and not one that the major vendors adequately respond to in some ways. Ben> NDMP utilizes dump, which is file-based so that doesn't solve the Ben> performance issues, and from what I can tell SnapVault is only for Ben> disk-to-disk backup, not tape. There is a tool, which I just found out about, which lets you snapmirror/snapvault to a file, which can then be written to tape. It would be nicer if it could write to tape from the start, but that's just a detail. Anyway, the question I have for you is how do you restore your data? Are you looking for quick restores of random files? Are you looking for quick restores of large chunks of data? Do you have data split across volumes/qtrees, or is it more monolithic? I've found great performance gains by doing my backups against multiple qtrees at a time. This does require that you try to get the users to split up their data a bit more, and help out with the management if at all possible. Ben> Even if I direct connect a tape robot to the filer I'd still be Ben> using dump and the throughput isn't being limited by the network Ben> capacity, so that doesn't help either. I'm hoping there is a Ben> block-level method I'm unaware of. NDMP in my tests has been dog Ben> slow and standard backups via NFS mount don't sound appealing. Can you give more details about your problem space? Filer, disks, network, file system size and number of files, etc? Also try doing NDMP backups in parallel, either at the volume or qtree level. Legato (EMC) Networker can now do NDMP streams, with indexes of files, to disk volumes. This means you can run multiple parallel streams at the same time. Once they are done, you could then clone/stage them to tape either sequentially, or in parallel. I'm starting to really think that disk-to-disk-to-tape is the way to go, but the problem is that people see all that extra disk space sitting around and they try to fill it up. :-) Or ask why they can just have a hundred gigs or so for this new project, we'll cleanup when we're done, honest! John John Stoffel - Senior Staff Systems Administrator - System LSI Group Toshiba America Electronic Components, Inc. - http://www.toshiba.com/taec john.stoffel(a)taec.toshiba.com - 508-486-1087 ------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained herein is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access by any other party is unauthorised without the express written permission of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender either via the company switchboard on +44 (0)20 7623 8000, or via e-mail return. If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. 3167 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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