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RE: iSCSI to NetApp
by Holland, William L 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

How full is the aggregate/volume hosting the LUN? Could be WAFL performfance due to (nearly) full disks. In our development system I setup some several LUNs in different volumes on the same aggregate resulting in an aggregate that was 97% full -- to say the least, performance was horrible. Reconfigured to several smaller aggregates with no volume or aggregate > 90% full and performance went up dramatically. This is all using Microsoft's iSCSI initiator. You may also want to consider testing using software initiator vs hardware initiator. From what I've read and seen in some earlier testing I've done, the software initiator performed as well or better than the hardware initiator for MUCH less cost. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:netbacker@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 1:41 PM To: David Lee Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: iSCSI to NetApp How big is the volume where the LUN resides? Is it on a seperate volume or on a heavily used one. Not enough spindles maybe? What model of filer? Could there be a routing/switching issue? Jumbo frames issue? I haven't used a TOE/iscsiHBA for a long time now, not worth the price. Standard Gig-E cards with Microsoft iSCSI drivers has been working great for us. Not much of a CPU hit. easiy to troubleshoot. If you have a spare NIC, why don't you try swapping the HBA with it and try MS iSCSI drivers to troubleshoot and check performance. -G On 1/13/06, David Lee <t.d.lee(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote: > (System: ONTAP 6.5.5) > > We have a Windows 2003 server (SP1) which uses iSCSI to mount a drive > onto a NetApps filer. > > When transfering files the performance is very poor: it can take 5 > minutes to transfer a 350 Mbyte file. Looking at Performance Monitor > on Windows while a file transfer is taking place shows that Disk Queue > Length readings can reach: > Average=94, Maximum=2142 > > We are using a QLogic QLA4010 Host Bus Adapter with the latest > firmware > (3.0.0.4) and driver (2.1.0.8). > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance. > > > -- > > : David Lee I.T. Service : > : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : > : Durham University : > : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : > : Durham DH1 3LE : > : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. : >

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RE: cifs terminate username?
by Ehrhart, Rick 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

Your middle step might be easier if you used the cifs-session-list-iter-start, cifs-session-list-iter-next, and cifs-session-list-iter-end ONTAP APIs. NOW information is at: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/manageontap. Unfortunately, there is no cifs terminate API at this time, so you would still have to use rsh to do the cifs terminate. - Rick - > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lee [mailto:t.d.lee@durham.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:56 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: cifs terminate username? > > > (System: ONTAP 6.5.5) > > >From the NetApp admin perspective, it would sometimes be > very useful to be > able to issue, via scripts, a command: > cifs terminate username > > Alas, this does not seem possible. The nearest seems to be > the sequence: > cifs sessions username > <human-read multiple-line output to extract a workstation > name: wsname> > cifs terminate wsname > > whose middle step is not script-friendly. > > > <background> > The underlying reason is that we sometimes change someone's username > (don't ask!). This requires us correspondingly to rename the final > component of their home directory. We do this from the UNIX > admin host, > (as "mv /path/to/oldname /path/to/newname") but this fails > if the user > has a CIFS session active. > </background> > > So an alternative to the above strategy would be a NetApp command that > could do the necessary rename of the directory. (There > doesn't seem to be > an "mv" or similar, although I do see an "mv" under > priv/advanced... but > I'm always slightly nervous around priv/advanced.) > > Any thoughts? > > -- > > : David Lee I.T. Service : > : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : > : Durham University : > : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : > : Durham DH1 3LE : > : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. : >

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RE: cifs terminate username?
by Warkentin, Grant 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

FWW: We do user login ID renames from time to time ourselves. We don't do a lot of these so I have not considered scripting this. Our environment is Windows (Ontap 6.5.2R1) so this may not apply to you. If the user does have a CIFS session open I can terminate that session by using Microsoft's MMC to disconnect the user. We do warn them first that that this will happen. Basically, right click the my computer icon on my PC. Select manage. Right click computer management / connect to different computer and connect to the filer. Find the user's connection then disconnect it. Seems like a lot of work as the steps are written but I find it to be real simple & quick. I have no idea if it's possible to script this... Vbscript + WMI perhaps? NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:56 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: cifs terminate username? (System: ONTAP 6.5.5) From the NetApp admin perspective, it would sometimes be very useful to be able to issue, via scripts, a command: cifs terminate username Alas, this does not seem possible. The nearest seems to be the sequence: cifs sessions username <human-read multiple-line output to extract a workstation name: wsname> cifs terminate wsname whose middle step is not script-friendly. <background> The underlying reason is that we sometimes change someone's username (don't ask!). This requires us correspondingly to rename the final component of their home directory. We do this from the UNIX admin host, (as "mv /path/to/oldname /path/to/newname") but this fails if the user has a CIFS session active. </background> So an alternative to the above strategy would be a NetApp command that could do the necessary rename of the directory. (There doesn't seem to be an "mv" or similar, although I do see an "mv" under priv/advanced... but I'm always slightly nervous around priv/advanced.) Any thoughts? -- : David Lee I.T. Service : : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : : Durham University : : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : : Durham DH1 3LE : : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. :

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Re: cifs terminate username?
by Michael Bergman 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

>whose middle step is not script-friendly. Perhaps not, but it's IMO not so unfriendly as to make it *far* too expensive to parse correctly. So what I would try is to script it, using some powerful pattern matching tool(s) such as that available in Perl. I can see that it may take a rather skilled programmed to get this right. I agree with you that it would seem very convenient to be able to do cifs terminate <username> I suspect there's a potential problem here though, and it may be the reason for NetApp not having (yet) implemented that semantics: there may be several users connected from the same CIFS client (e.g. MS Windows host, or UNIX host with smbclient for example). If you then do 'cifs terminate <wsname>' it would not be the correct thing to do. I don't know if there would be 2 separate resources on the server side (in ONTAP CIFS handling) in such a case so that you can terminate one of them and leave the rest unaffected. If not, it's probably very hard to do a correct and logical implementaion of the semantics one wants here. Caveat lector: I'm not even close to knowing enough about CIFS inner workings to feel very sure about any of the above. >(There doesn't seem to be >an "mv" or similar, although I do see an "mv" under priv/advanced... but >I'm always slightly nervous around priv/advanced.) Does even that work if the directory is "held" by an actice CIFS session from a client? I suspect not. Also, you might not be able to script this, i.e. is it possible to do rsh <file> priv set advanced mv <from> <to> or do you have to be interactively connected to the console to use this mv? Cheers, M -- Michael Bergman Email: Michael.Bergman(a)ericsson.com Sr Systems Analyst EAB/OET/Z, R&D IT Stockholm Phone: +46 8 7275709 R&D IT Management Armborstv 14, S-125 25 Alvsjo, Sweden -- "Qui vicit non est victor nisi victus fatetur." - Ennius

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cifs terminate username?
by David Lee 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

(System: ONTAP 6.5.5) From the NetApp admin perspective, it would sometimes be very useful to be able to issue, via scripts, a command: cifs terminate username Alas, this does not seem possible. The nearest seems to be the sequence: cifs sessions username <human-read multiple-line output to extract a workstation name: wsname> cifs terminate wsname whose middle step is not script-friendly. <background> The underlying reason is that we sometimes change someone's username (don't ask!). This requires us correspondingly to rename the final component of their home directory. We do this from the UNIX admin host, (as "mv /path/to/oldname /path/to/newname") but this fails if the user has a CIFS session active. </background> So an alternative to the above strategy would be a NetApp command that could do the necessary rename of the directory. (There doesn't seem to be an "mv" or similar, although I do see an "mv" under priv/advanced... but I'm always slightly nervous around priv/advanced.) Any thoughts? -- : David Lee I.T. Service : : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : : Durham University : : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : : Durham DH1 3LE : : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. :

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New install
by Tim Longo 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Kennedy, Jeffrey 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

No one's mentioned it but one serious benefit to a separate root volume is an inconsistency state in a non-root volume. http://now.netapp.com/AskNOW/highlight_html.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnow.net app.com%2FNOW%2Fknowledge%2Fdocs%2Fontap%2Frel701r1_gf%2Fhtml%2Fgfiler%2 Fplanning%2Fstorpla5.htm&sentenceId=70026552&titleIds=70026550%2C7002650 9%2C70026504#1291843 ~JK ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wargel Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:25 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install The other thing to consider is mixing drive sizes in same filer. Just want to make sure you have at least one spare of each size... Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: Callaway, Michael [mailto:Mcallaway@ntta.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:21 AM To: Mike Wargel; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install True, but 2 36GB drives out of 112 discs, most 72GB, they aren't really that missed. Like he said though, you may be better off converting and resizing to your needs/recommended root vol size. Thanks, Michael NTTA/IT http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org/> 214.461.2033 ________________________________ From: Mike Wargel [mailto:mwargel@cstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:49 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install On a 270 with only 14 drives, we've setup systems to migrate entirely to flexvols, including vol0. Maximizes effective disk usage and can resize vol0 as needed. Most vol0's are 25G or less and use a tenth of that. Quite a sacrifice of 2 disks IMO. Mike Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Callaway, Michael Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:14 AM To: Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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10 Jan '06

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RE: New install
by Lai, Derek 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

You can convert the root volume to a flexvol. On systems like the FAS250 and FAS270 it yields the most benefits with the limited number of disks/shelves supported. The root volume never goes over a couple of GB. So to be really save, allocate 10 GB to it. No sense wasting 2 entire disks for it. Put it on an aggregate with other flexvols. Derek -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Tim Longo Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:29 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Mike Wargel 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

The other thing to consider is mixing drive sizes in same filer. Just want to make sure you have at least one spare of each size... Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: Callaway, Michael [mailto:Mcallaway@ntta.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:21 AM To: Mike Wargel; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install True, but 2 36GB drives out of 112 discs, most 72GB, they aren't really that missed. Like he said though, you may be better off converting and resizing to your needs/recommended root vol size. Thanks, Michael NTTA/IT http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org/> 214.461.2033 ________________________________ From: Mike Wargel [mailto:mwargel@cstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:49 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install On a 270 with only 14 drives, we've setup systems to migrate entirely to flexvols, including vol0. Maximizes effective disk usage and can resize vol0 as needed. Most vol0's are 25G or less and use a tenth of that. Quite a sacrifice of 2 disks IMO. Mike Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Callaway, Michael Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:14 AM To: Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Callaway, Michael 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

True, but 2 36GB drives out of 112 discs, most 72GB, they aren't really that missed. Like he said though, you may be better off converting and resizing to your needs/recommended root vol size. Thanks, Michael NTTA/IT http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org/> 214.461.2033 ________________________________ From: Mike Wargel [mailto:mwargel@cstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:49 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install On a 270 with only 14 drives, we've setup systems to migrate entirely to flexvols, including vol0. Maximizes effective disk usage and can resize vol0 as needed. Most vol0's are 25G or less and use a tenth of that. Quite a sacrifice of 2 disks IMO. Mike Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Callaway, Michael Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:14 AM To: Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Mike Wargel 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

If the 270 is in fact a clustered 270 (270c), then the 2nd root volume would need at least 2 disks for the 2nd head, but would still do all aggrs and flex vols, at least for the first/primary head and leave one spare for the shelf. Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Skottie Miller Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:58 AM To: Tim Longo Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: New install re-zero the disks and create an aggregate. then, the root vol, vol0 can be any size you want within that aggregate, and you can then create/remove/resize other volumes for your production data. we create a small (20G) vol0 as root in the root aggregate on every filer, and use the rest of the space for one or more FlexVols or FlexCache vols within the other aggregates. -skottie Tim Longo wrote: > I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was > upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I > think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The > root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it > needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to > know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a > traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the > root volume? > > Thanks. > -- Scott Miller skottie(a)anim.DreamWorks.com

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RE: New install
by Mike Wargel 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

On a 270 with only 14 drives, we've setup systems to migrate entirely to flexvols, including vol0. Maximizes effective disk usage and can resize vol0 as needed. Most vol0's are 25G or less and use a tenth of that. Quite a sacrifice of 2 disks IMO. Mike Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Callaway, Michael Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:14 AM To: Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Callaway, Michael 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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tape alias names
by George Kahler 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

My NetBackup sysadmin is asking me if there is a way to rename the tape alias. enterprise> storage show tape Tape Drive: 1a.0 Description: IBM ULTRIUM-TD3 Serial Number: F0016E7043 World Wide Name: WWN[5:003:08c001:ff7043] Alias Name(s): st4 Device State: available enterprise> mt -f nrst4m status Tape drive: IBM ULTRIUM-TD3 Status: offline Format: LTO rd only 200GB cmp fileno = -1 blockno = -1 resid = 0 There was a maintenance done on our tape library where the SE powered it off and after powering it back on the tape alias on the filer has changed from '3' to '4'. This is a direct attached fiber LTO3 tape drive. Thanks, George

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NFS with Debian Sarge ?
by Frank Bonnet 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

Hello Does anyone runs Debian Sarge NFS clients ? I have some troubles with it, any infos/links welcome ! Thanks and Happy new year to all. -- Regards Frank Bonnet

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RE: Dumb quota management question
by Graeme Fowler 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

Hi all Thanks for the replies so far, most helpful. Just a few responses: On 05 January 2006 17:48, Michael Bergman wrote: > Well, I assume you do have the /etc/ directory (or rather the > root volume, in many cases called vol0) NFS-exported to at > least one NFS-client already. How else do you administer the > filer when you work with it manually? Actually, so far (15 months of production use) I haven't yet had much cause to deal with the filer outside of the web admin interface or via a console/telnet/ssh session. All the problems I've experienced, and all the configuration I've had to do, have been achievable that way - so I haven't had much cause to mount /vol/vol0 onto remote hosts apart from a few occasions where I had to grab core dumps or logfiles for debugging. I had, of course, rather idiotically forgotten the rsh/ssh way. Hence "dumb question" :) On 05 January 2006 17:49, Skottie Miller wrote: > the quota files are editied from the admin host, which has > <ROOT>/etc mounted. then we "rsh <FILER> quota resize" so > changes take effect. On 06 January 2006 10:56, Neis, Mark wrote: > If NFS-exporting /etc ist what you want to prevent, you could > script it using SSH to remotely execute filer commands: [snip] Again, I'd missed the rsh/ssh option; the reason for trying to avoid having /vol/vol0 mounted anywhere is one of security. I suppose it could be done in a mount/edit/rsh/commit/unmount procedure, but the likely rate of change is such that we may simply have to harden a host in the platform to do the admin tasks and mount the volume there. Thanks for all the advice, I've opened my eyes again now and have a way forward :) Graeme -- Graeme Fowler Hosting Development Engineer PIPEX

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RE: Dumb quota management question
by Neis, Mark 06 Jan '06

06 Jan '06

> I have a requirement to extend that system to allow a mix of > quotas per qtree, and short of exporting /etc off the root > volume to an NFS client and programatically (or manually) > editing it there then running an expect script to login to > the filer and run "quota off; quota on" or "quota resize" I > cannot see a way to achieve what I want. If NFS-exporting /etc ist what you want to prevent, you could script it using SSH to remotely execute filer commands: - Parse /etc/quotas using rdfile and sed/awk/grep/whatever - Show list of qtrees and quotas, e.g. with dialog - Write changes back to /etc/quotas on the filer using wrfile - Call quota resize - Parse output of quota report to see if everything went allright Btw, rdfile/wrfile need advanced mode iirc. Regards, Mark

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