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RE: DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question
by Glenn Walker 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Throughput\latencies will definitely be better with the 144's - in some particular applications, you will need more spindles than space (databases of pretty much any sort, unless it is very low utilization\decision support). Having two shelves would be nice to help guard against SPOF, but if you loose 1 shelf the filer will still halt due to doubledisk failure... -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Mohler Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:30 PM To: John Clear; Michael Haller; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question It all depends on the workload that you want to perform across the volumes contained within those populations of drives. You may, or may NOT see a difference. Reliability isnt a huge issue, since Raid-DP and an active support contract take care of the 100% failure rate that -all- hard drives eventually achieve. If you remove the issues concerning raid groups sizing, if/how you use flex volumes, and directory sizes..Its all about balancing the cost of ATA against the IOPS benefit of FCAL. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of John Clear Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:46 AM To: Michael Haller; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question I have about 800 300GB drives across a bunch of FAS980s and R200s and about 400 144GB drives across a bunch of F880s/FAS960s/FAS270s according to DFM. Throughput seems fine, although I have done any specific benchmarks. The high density reduces space/power/cooling requirements, which has its own benefits. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Michael Haller Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:33 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question Hi, Does anybody have any experience or comments on the use of a single DS14MK2 with 300GB drives versus two DS14MK2 with 144GB dirves. I would have thought that throughput, reliability and on-going costs would be better with the 144s. Any comments or advice appreciated. Ta, - Michael

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RE: DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question
by Jeff Mohler 18 Jan '06

18 Jan '06

It all depends on the workload that you want to perform across the volumes contained within those populations of drives. You may, or may NOT see a difference. Reliability isnt a huge issue, since Raid-DP and an active support contract take care of the 100% failure rate that -all- hard drives eventually achieve. If you remove the issues concerning raid groups sizing, if/how you use flex volumes, and directory sizes..Its all about balancing the cost of ATA against the IOPS benefit of FCAL. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of John Clear Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:46 AM To: Michael Haller; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question I have about 800 300GB drives across a bunch of FAS980s and R200s and about 400 144GB drives across a bunch of F880s/FAS960s/FAS270s according to DFM. Throughput seems fine, although I have done any specific benchmarks. The high density reduces space/power/cooling requirements, which has its own benefits. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Michael Haller Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:33 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question Hi, Does anybody have any experience or comments on the use of a single DS14MK2 with 300GB drives versus two DS14MK2 with 144GB dirves. I would have thought that throughput, reliability and on-going costs would be better with the 144s. Any comments or advice appreciated. Ta, - Michael

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RE: DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question
by John Clear 18 Jan '06

18 Jan '06

I have about 800 300GB drives across a bunch of FAS980s and R200s and about 400 144GB drives across a bunch of F880s/FAS960s/FAS270s according to DFM. Throughput seems fine, although I have done any specific benchmarks. The high density reduces space/power/cooling requirements, which has its own benefits. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Michael Haller Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:33 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question Hi, Does anybody have any experience or comments on the use of a single DS14MK2 with 300GB drives versus two DS14MK2 with 144GB dirves. I would have thought that throughput, reliability and on-going costs would be better with the 144s. Any comments or advice appreciated. Ta, - Michael

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DS14MK2 with 300GB versus 144GB - question
by Michael Haller 18 Jan '06

18 Jan '06

Hi, Does anybody have any experience or comments on the use of a single DS14MK2 with 300GB drives versus two DS14MK2 with 144GB dirves. I would have thought that throughput, reliability and on-going costs would be better with the 144s. Any comments or advice appreciated. Ta, - Michael

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17 Jan '06

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ndmp and LTO-3 Drives
by Coder, James (STP) 16 Jan '06

16 Jan '06

Anyone on the list using NDMP with SAN attached LTO-3 drives and veritas netbackup? The question I have can the software keep the data spooling fast enough to the tape drives and not let them shoe-shine? How many data streams are you using? How much data are you getting backed up per hour? Have you tried a DR restore of the data and what was the timing? We are in the process of upgrading to NB 5.1 and adding LTO-3's to the L700 robot and currently connect to a pair of clustered 980s and 960s. Thanks in advance - jcc James C. Coder " There are 10 kinds of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't." Sr. UNIX Administrator Guidant Corporation 4100 Hamline Avenue North St. Paul, MN 55112 Desk: 651-582-4797 Cell: 612-747-5377 Fax 651-582-4285 email: james.coder(a)guidant.com "Any views expressed in this e-mail are not those of Guidant Corporation."

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RE: iSCSI to NetApp
by Glenn Walker 14 Jan '06

14 Jan '06

Another possibility is the queue depth specified on the driver. How many disks do you have behind the LUN on the filer? A good rule of thumb is: anything below 1 outstanding IOP per physical disk is ok. Since this is iSCSI, it may also be a networking problem... Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Blake Golliher Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 12:50 AM To: David Lee Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: iSCSI to NetApp David, Take a perfstat, and I'd be happy to take a look at look at it, and help if I can. -Blake On 1/13/06, David Lee <t.d.lee(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote: > (System: ONTAP 6.5.5) > > We have a Windows 2003 server (SP1) which uses iSCSI to mount a drive > onto a NetApps filer. > > When transfering files the performance is very poor: it can take 5 minutes > to transfer a 350 Mbyte file. Looking at Performance Monitor on Windows > while a file transfer is taking place shows that Disk Queue Length > readings can reach: > Average=94, Maximum=2142 > > We are using a QLogic QLA4010 Host Bus Adapter with the latest firmware > (3.0.0.4) and driver (2.1.0.8). > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance. > > > -- > > : David Lee I.T. Service : > : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : > : Durham University : > : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : > : Durham DH1 3LE : > : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. : >

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RE: exchange mailbox level recovery using NetApp
by Rod Newcomb 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

We've been working with Netapp and iSCSI for about a year now. For the most part, when their software works, it works very well. But when it doesn't it's pretty bad. For example, we have a Clustered set of 920c's. We use Qlogic HBA's and GigE copper. We've had multiple issues of when the MS cluster fails over, we end up with multiple -1018 errors in our databases that need to be cleaned up. We've had three teams of consultants in to try to determine what is causing the problem, but to no avail. We're running 7.0.0.1 on the Filer (not a great release.. Were working on upgrading). Windows 2003 Enterprise SP1. Exchange Enterprise SP1. iSCSI initiator 1.06 QLOGIC 4010C HBA's. 2.0.0.5 We have a dedicated VLAN for our storage network, and no errors are showing on the HBA's. The last issue we had, we couldn't recover our snapshot (verified with eseutil as being good at the time of the backup) as it said the database was still corrupted after recovering. We ended up loosing about eight hours of email for 30 users. Also, beware that iSCSI is VERY expensive on space. To get guaranteed snapshots, you have to reserver 100% extra space of your lun. That's about 30% more than your average NFS file systems. We didn't understand that going into it, and grossly underestimated our storage space needs. We've had better luck with SQL, but still some issues. In the lab, Single Mailbox restore worked very well. It basically "virtually" mounts the message store and you select the information you want to bring back into your production database. Exchange isn't the wiser. I just wish we could get down to the bottom of our database issues involving iSCSI. The speed is incredible, and iSCSI is a great solution for our company on paper. In practice, it's been a little different experience. Rod Newcomb -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Leeds, Daniel Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:02 PM To: Brian Parent; Netapp List Subject: Re: exchange mailbox level recovery using NetApp On 1/13/06 1:19 PM, "Brian Parent" <bparent(a)calvin.ucsd.edu> wrote: > We're considering using NetApp storage via iSCSI LUNs for Exchange > email databases, but are concerned that we'll run into trouble due to > some obscure/hidden Microsoft magic. > > I suspect that the way NetApp does snapshots, and presents the disk as > a LUN to the exchange server, it prevents any such problems. That is, > there is no way for the M$ software to know the difference between the > live production data, and the snapshot data from which you're making > mailbox level recovery. > > Anyone actually had success with such a setup? > Netapp makes a product called SnapManager for Exchange. Look into this product. It allows things such as single mailbox restores and more.

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exchange mailbox level recovery using NetApp
by Brian Parent 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

We're considering using NetApp storage via iSCSI LUNs for Exchange email databases, but are concerned that we'll run into trouble due to some obscure/hidden Microsoft magic. I suspect that the way NetApp does snapshots, and presents the disk as a LUN to the exchange server, it prevents any such problems. That is, there is no way for the M$ software to know the difference between the live production data, and the snapshot data from which you're making mailbox level recovery. Anyone actually had success with such a setup?

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RE: cifs terminate username?
by Ehrhart, Rick 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

Sorry about the internal URL. Here is the correct information: http://www.netapp.com/solutions/dfms/advantage.html This page talks about being an Advantage Developer. Just sign-up as an Advantage Developer in "Partner Level Desired". You can also talk to your sales person about making the SDK readily available for customers. - Rick - > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lee [mailto:t.d.lee@durham.ac.uk] > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:58 AM > To: Ehrhart, Rick > Subject: RE: cifs terminate username? > > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Ehrhart, Rick wrote: > > > Your middle step might be easier if you used the > > cifs-session-list-iter-start, cifs-session-list-iter-next, and > > cifs-session-list-iter-end ONTAP APIs. NOW information is at: > > http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/manageontap. > Unfortunately, there is > > no cifs terminate API at this time, so you would still have > to use rsh > > to do the cifs terminate. > > (Off-list email...) > > Thanks. > > But I'm having trouble accessing that site. I can login (id: > netapplee ) > to the general NOW site, but cannot see: > http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/manageontap > > (it says "Unauthorized Access" etc.). > > > -- > > : David Lee I.T. Service : > : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : > : Durham University : > : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : > : Durham DH1 3LE : > : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. : >

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RE: iSCSI to NetApp
by Holland, William L 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

How full is the aggregate/volume hosting the LUN? Could be WAFL performfance due to (nearly) full disks. In our development system I setup some several LUNs in different volumes on the same aggregate resulting in an aggregate that was 97% full -- to say the least, performance was horrible. Reconfigured to several smaller aggregates with no volume or aggregate > 90% full and performance went up dramatically. This is all using Microsoft's iSCSI initiator. You may also want to consider testing using software initiator vs hardware initiator. From what I've read and seen in some earlier testing I've done, the software initiator performed as well or better than the hardware initiator for MUCH less cost. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:netbacker@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 1:41 PM To: David Lee Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: iSCSI to NetApp How big is the volume where the LUN resides? Is it on a seperate volume or on a heavily used one. Not enough spindles maybe? What model of filer? Could there be a routing/switching issue? Jumbo frames issue? I haven't used a TOE/iscsiHBA for a long time now, not worth the price. Standard Gig-E cards with Microsoft iSCSI drivers has been working great for us. Not much of a CPU hit. easiy to troubleshoot. If you have a spare NIC, why don't you try swapping the HBA with it and try MS iSCSI drivers to troubleshoot and check performance. -G On 1/13/06, David Lee <t.d.lee(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote: > (System: ONTAP 6.5.5) > > We have a Windows 2003 server (SP1) which uses iSCSI to mount a drive > onto a NetApps filer. > > When transfering files the performance is very poor: it can take 5 > minutes to transfer a 350 Mbyte file. Looking at Performance Monitor > on Windows while a file transfer is taking place shows that Disk Queue > Length readings can reach: > Average=94, Maximum=2142 > > We are using a QLogic QLA4010 Host Bus Adapter with the latest > firmware > (3.0.0.4) and driver (2.1.0.8). > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance. > > > -- > > : David Lee I.T. Service : > : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : > : Durham University : > : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : > : Durham DH1 3LE : > : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. : >

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RE: cifs terminate username?
by Ehrhart, Rick 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

Your middle step might be easier if you used the cifs-session-list-iter-start, cifs-session-list-iter-next, and cifs-session-list-iter-end ONTAP APIs. NOW information is at: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/manageontap. Unfortunately, there is no cifs terminate API at this time, so you would still have to use rsh to do the cifs terminate. - Rick - > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lee [mailto:t.d.lee@durham.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:56 AM > To: toasters(a)mathworks.com > Subject: cifs terminate username? > > > (System: ONTAP 6.5.5) > > >From the NetApp admin perspective, it would sometimes be > very useful to be > able to issue, via scripts, a command: > cifs terminate username > > Alas, this does not seem possible. The nearest seems to be > the sequence: > cifs sessions username > <human-read multiple-line output to extract a workstation > name: wsname> > cifs terminate wsname > > whose middle step is not script-friendly. > > > <background> > The underlying reason is that we sometimes change someone's username > (don't ask!). This requires us correspondingly to rename the final > component of their home directory. We do this from the UNIX > admin host, > (as "mv /path/to/oldname /path/to/newname") but this fails > if the user > has a CIFS session active. > </background> > > So an alternative to the above strategy would be a NetApp command that > could do the necessary rename of the directory. (There > doesn't seem to be > an "mv" or similar, although I do see an "mv" under > priv/advanced... but > I'm always slightly nervous around priv/advanced.) > > Any thoughts? > > -- > > : David Lee I.T. Service : > : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : > : Durham University : > : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : > : Durham DH1 3LE : > : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. : >

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RE: cifs terminate username?
by Warkentin, Grant 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

FWW: We do user login ID renames from time to time ourselves. We don't do a lot of these so I have not considered scripting this. Our environment is Windows (Ontap 6.5.2R1) so this may not apply to you. If the user does have a CIFS session open I can terminate that session by using Microsoft's MMC to disconnect the user. We do warn them first that that this will happen. Basically, right click the my computer icon on my PC. Select manage. Right click computer management / connect to different computer and connect to the filer. Find the user's connection then disconnect it. Seems like a lot of work as the steps are written but I find it to be real simple & quick. I have no idea if it's possible to script this... Vbscript + WMI perhaps? NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of David Lee Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:56 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: cifs terminate username? (System: ONTAP 6.5.5) From the NetApp admin perspective, it would sometimes be very useful to be able to issue, via scripts, a command: cifs terminate username Alas, this does not seem possible. The nearest seems to be the sequence: cifs sessions username <human-read multiple-line output to extract a workstation name: wsname> cifs terminate wsname whose middle step is not script-friendly. <background> The underlying reason is that we sometimes change someone's username (don't ask!). This requires us correspondingly to rename the final component of their home directory. We do this from the UNIX admin host, (as "mv /path/to/oldname /path/to/newname") but this fails if the user has a CIFS session active. </background> So an alternative to the above strategy would be a NetApp command that could do the necessary rename of the directory. (There doesn't seem to be an "mv" or similar, although I do see an "mv" under priv/advanced... but I'm always slightly nervous around priv/advanced.) Any thoughts? -- : David Lee I.T. Service : : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : : Durham University : : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : : Durham DH1 3LE : : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. :

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Re: cifs terminate username?
by Michael Bergman 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

>whose middle step is not script-friendly. Perhaps not, but it's IMO not so unfriendly as to make it *far* too expensive to parse correctly. So what I would try is to script it, using some powerful pattern matching tool(s) such as that available in Perl. I can see that it may take a rather skilled programmed to get this right. I agree with you that it would seem very convenient to be able to do cifs terminate <username> I suspect there's a potential problem here though, and it may be the reason for NetApp not having (yet) implemented that semantics: there may be several users connected from the same CIFS client (e.g. MS Windows host, or UNIX host with smbclient for example). If you then do 'cifs terminate <wsname>' it would not be the correct thing to do. I don't know if there would be 2 separate resources on the server side (in ONTAP CIFS handling) in such a case so that you can terminate one of them and leave the rest unaffected. If not, it's probably very hard to do a correct and logical implementaion of the semantics one wants here. Caveat lector: I'm not even close to knowing enough about CIFS inner workings to feel very sure about any of the above. >(There doesn't seem to be >an "mv" or similar, although I do see an "mv" under priv/advanced... but >I'm always slightly nervous around priv/advanced.) Does even that work if the directory is "held" by an actice CIFS session from a client? I suspect not. Also, you might not be able to script this, i.e. is it possible to do rsh <file> priv set advanced mv <from> <to> or do you have to be interactively connected to the console to use this mv? Cheers, M -- Michael Bergman Email: Michael.Bergman(a)ericsson.com Sr Systems Analyst EAB/OET/Z, R&D IT Stockholm Phone: +46 8 7275709 R&D IT Management Armborstv 14, S-125 25 Alvsjo, Sweden -- "Qui vicit non est victor nisi victus fatetur." - Ennius

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cifs terminate username?
by David Lee 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

(System: ONTAP 6.5.5) From the NetApp admin perspective, it would sometimes be very useful to be able to issue, via scripts, a command: cifs terminate username Alas, this does not seem possible. The nearest seems to be the sequence: cifs sessions username <human-read multiple-line output to extract a workstation name: wsname> cifs terminate wsname whose middle step is not script-friendly. <background> The underlying reason is that we sometimes change someone's username (don't ask!). This requires us correspondingly to rename the final component of their home directory. We do this from the UNIX admin host, (as "mv /path/to/oldname /path/to/newname") but this fails if the user has a CIFS session active. </background> So an alternative to the above strategy would be a NetApp command that could do the necessary rename of the directory. (There doesn't seem to be an "mv" or similar, although I do see an "mv" under priv/advanced... but I'm always slightly nervous around priv/advanced.) Any thoughts? -- : David Lee I.T. Service : : Senior Systems Programmer Computer Centre : : Durham University : : http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.d.lee/ South Road : : Durham DH1 3LE : : Phone: +44 191 334 2752 U.K. :

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New install
by Tim Longo 12 Jan '06

12 Jan '06

I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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RE: New install
by Kennedy, Jeffrey 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

No one's mentioned it but one serious benefit to a separate root volume is an inconsistency state in a non-root volume. http://now.netapp.com/AskNOW/highlight_html.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnow.net app.com%2FNOW%2Fknowledge%2Fdocs%2Fontap%2Frel701r1_gf%2Fhtml%2Fgfiler%2 Fplanning%2Fstorpla5.htm&sentenceId=70026552&titleIds=70026550%2C7002650 9%2C70026504#1291843 ~JK ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wargel Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:25 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install The other thing to consider is mixing drive sizes in same filer. Just want to make sure you have at least one spare of each size... Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: Callaway, Michael [mailto:Mcallaway@ntta.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:21 AM To: Mike Wargel; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install True, but 2 36GB drives out of 112 discs, most 72GB, they aren't really that missed. Like he said though, you may be better off converting and resizing to your needs/recommended root vol size. Thanks, Michael NTTA/IT http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org/> 214.461.2033 ________________________________ From: Mike Wargel [mailto:mwargel@cstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:49 AM To: Callaway, Michael; Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install On a 270 with only 14 drives, we've setup systems to migrate entirely to flexvols, including vol0. Maximizes effective disk usage and can resize vol0 as needed. Most vol0's are 25G or less and use a tenth of that. Quite a sacrifice of 2 disks IMO. Mike Mike Wargel Senior Systems Engineer Custom Storage, Inc mwargel(a)customstorage.com O: 480 941-4026, x101 C: 602 690-4788 ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Callaway, Michael Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:14 AM To: Tim Longo; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: New install We left vol0 as it was, but it's a very small vol, 2 discs if I remember correctly. We just have it there for the system files. Everything else is flex vols in aggr. Thanks, Michael Callaway Systems Support Technician North Texas Tollway Authority/IT Department http://www.ntta.org <http://www.ntta.org> 214.461.2033 office 214.325.5523 mobile 972.930.2633 fax ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Tim Longo Sent: Tue 1/10/2006 9:28 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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10 Jan '06

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10 Jan '06

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RE: New install
by Lai, Derek 10 Jan '06

10 Jan '06

You can convert the root volume to a flexvol. On systems like the FAS250 and FAS270 it yields the most benefits with the limited number of disks/shelves supported. The root volume never goes over a couple of GB. So to be really save, allocate 10 GB to it. No sense wasting 2 entire disks for it. Put it on an aggregate with other flexvols. Derek -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Tim Longo Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:29 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: New install I'm in the process of setting up a new FAS270. The first thing I did was upgrade firmware/nd Ontap to version 7. After doing some reading, I think I will plan to implement FlexVols in the remaining free space. The root Vol0 seems to be bigger than I would have made it, and it seems it needs to be a traditional Vol that I cannot resize. I'd be interested to know what other people are doing here... are you leaving Vol0 as a traditional volume and adding other flex vols? What about resizing the root volume? Thanks.

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