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RE: "D" CP types on FAS3020
by Glenn Walker 12 Mar '06

12 Mar '06

If I recall, it is more common to see them on filers with smaller memory sizes (ie, 3020\270) than ones with larger memory sizes (960\980). The 'D' CPs are new in 7.X (I don't remember exactly when it was introduced). Are you seeing any issues, by chance, or just hunting for problems to proactively fix? Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Alan Sparks Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:35 PM To: Toasters List Subject: "D" CP types on FAS3020 Not been getting a clear answer from Support on this, maybe someone here has some good advice or insight... Our FAS3020C filers often display CP types of "D" in a sysstat listing. I get that this is a CP due to "log datavecs." Trying to understand if this is a resource problem, or at least indicative of a performance issue: CPU Total Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache Cache CP CP Disk ops/s in out read write read write age hit time ty util 17% 1166 12787 488 793 15683 0 0 >60 100% 55% D 12% 17% 937 13021 454 720 14376 0 0 >60 100% 49% D 10% 18% 1321 13167 538 697 14219 0 0 >60 100% 49% D 10% One thing I got from Support is that it might be indicative of bug 145410 (must actively reclaim resources). At their suggestion, I've updated to DOT 7.0.3 (update from 7.0.2), but still see them a lot of the time. Is this pretty normal for the FAS3000 series? Thanks in advance. -- Alan Sparks, UNIX/Linux Systems Integration and Administration <asparks(a)doublesparks.net>

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Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20060312064321.01e8f418(a)free.fr> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 06:50:16 +0100 To: Alan Sparks <asparks(a)doublesparks.net>, Toasters List <toasters(a)mathworks.com> From: Jean-Jacques ARNOUX <arnouxjj(a)free.fr> Subject: Re: "D" CP types on FAS3020 In-Reply-To: <4413A4EC.50905(a)doublesparks.net> References: <4413A4EC.50905(a)doublesparks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1004222343==.ALT" --=====================_1004222343==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Alan, i meen that you reach this bug. I have the same on one of my customer site. And i have a huge number of this message. Sat Mar 11 23:04:11 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool01:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7537813126.index Sat Mar 11 23:04:11 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool01:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7537813126.value Sat Mar 11 23:04:11 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool01:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7537813126.next Sat Mar 11 23:35:49 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool04:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7539708117.index Sat Mar 11 23:35:49 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool04:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7539708117.value Sat Mar 11 23:35:49 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool04:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7539708117.next Sun Mar 12 00:00:00 CET [stk-hfm1: kern.uptime.filer:info]: 12:00am up 87 days, 7:48 1447100364 NFS ops, 7295964634 CIFS ops, 4291 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops on others systems i have these messages before upgrading to 7.0.3 or 7.1 as you see on one other system nothing Sat Mar 11 20:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]: 8:00pm up 49 days, 55 mins, 21659709149 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops Sat Mar 11 21:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]: 9:00pm up 49 days, 1:55 21697185323 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops Sat Mar 11 22:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]: 10:00pm up 49 days, 2:55 21732428903 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops Sat Mar 11 23:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]: 11:00pm up 49 days, 3:55 21761084021 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops Sun Mar 12 00:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]: 12:00am up 49 days, 4:55 21782379473 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops but i have no performance issues on both sites. Regards At 05:34 12/03/2006, Alan Sparks wrote: >Not been getting a clear answer from Support on this, maybe someone >here has some good advice or insight... > >Our FAS3020C filers often display CP types of "D" in a sysstat listing. >I get that this is a CP due to "log datavecs." Trying to understand >if this is a resource problem, or at least indicative of a performance issue: >CPU Total Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache Cache CP CP Disk > ops/s in out read write read write age hit time ty util >17% 1166 12787 488 793 15683 0 0 >60 100% 55% D 12% >17% 937 13021 454 720 14376 0 0 >60 100% 49% D 10% >18% 1321 13167 538 697 14219 0 0 >60 100% 49% D 10% > >One thing I got from Support is that it might be indicative of bug >145410 (must actively reclaim resources). At their suggestion, I've >updated to DOT 7.0.3 (update from 7.0.2), but still see them a lot of the time. > >Is this pretty normal for the FAS3000 series? Thanks in advance. > >-- >Alan Sparks, UNIX/Linux Systems Integration and Administration ><asparks(a)doublesparks.net> > --=====================_1004222343==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> <body> Hi Alan, i meen that you reach this bug. I have the same on one of my customer site. And i have a huge number of this message. Sat Mar 11 23:04:11 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool01:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7537813126.index Sat Mar 11 23:04:11 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool01:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7537813126.value Sat Mar 11 23:04:11 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool01:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7537813126.next Sat Mar 11 23:35:49 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool04:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7539708117.index Sat Mar 11 23:35:49 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool04:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7539708117.value Sat Mar 11 23:35:49 CET [stk-hfm1: APIPool04:debug]: Removing too-old iterator file: /etc/.zapi/7539708117.next Sun Mar 12 00:00:00 CET [stk-hfm1: kern.uptime.filer:info]:  12:00am up 87 days,  7:48 1447100364 NFS ops, 7295964634 CIFS ops, 4291 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops on others systems i have these messages before upgrading  to 7.0.3 or 7.1 as you see on one other system nothing Sat Mar 11 20:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]:   8:00pm up 49 days, 55 mins, 21659709149 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops Sat Mar 11 21:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]:   9:00pm up 49 days,  1:55 21697185323 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops Sat Mar 11 22:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]:  10:00pm up 49 days,  2:55 21732428903 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops Sat Mar 11 23:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]:  11:00pm up 49 days,  3:55 21761084021 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops Sun Mar 12 00:00:00 CET [grizzly: kern.uptime.filer:info]:  12:00am up 49 days,  4:55 21782379473 NFS ops, 0 CIFS ops, 1051 HTTP ops, 0 DAFS ops, 0 FCP ops, 0 iSCSI ops but i have no performance issues on both sites. Regards At 05:34 12/03/2006, Alan Sparks wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Not been getting a clear answer from Support on this, maybe someone here has some good advice or insight... Our FAS3020C filers often display CP types of "D" in a sysstat listing.  I get that this is a CP due to "log datavecs."  Trying to understand if this is a resource problem, or at least indicative of a performance issue: CPU   Total    Net kB/s    Disk kB/s    Tape kB/s Cache Cache  CP  CP Disk       ops/s    in   out   read  write  read write   age   hit time ty util 17%    1166 12787   488    793  15683     0     0   >60  100%  55%  D  12% 17%     937 13021   454    720  14376     0     0   >60  100%  49%  D  10% 18%    1321 13167   538    697  14219     0     0   >60  100%  49%  D  10% One thing I got from Support is that it might be indicative of bug 145410 (must actively reclaim resources).  At their suggestion, I've updated to DOT 7.0.3 (update from 7.0.2), but still see them a lot of the time. Is this pretty normal for the FAS3000 series?   Thanks in advance. -- Alan Sparks, UNIX/Linux Systems Integration and Administration <asparks(a)doublesparks.net> </blockquote></body> </html> --=====================_1004222343==.ALT--

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"D" CP types on FAS3020
by Alan Sparks 12 Mar '06

12 Mar '06

Not been getting a clear answer from Support on this, maybe someone here has some good advice or insight... Our FAS3020C filers often display CP types of "D" in a sysstat listing. I get that this is a CP due to "log datavecs." Trying to understand if this is a resource problem, or at least indicative of a performance issue: CPU Total Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache Cache CP CP Disk ops/s in out read write read write age hit time ty util 17% 1166 12787 488 793 15683 0 0 >60 100% 55% D 12% 17% 937 13021 454 720 14376 0 0 >60 100% 49% D 10% 18% 1321 13167 538 697 14219 0 0 >60 100% 49% D 10% One thing I got from Support is that it might be indicative of bug 145410 (must actively reclaim resources). At their suggestion, I've updated to DOT 7.0.3 (update from 7.0.2), but still see them a lot of the time. Is this pretty normal for the FAS3000 series? Thanks in advance. -- Alan Sparks, UNIX/Linux Systems Integration and Administration <asparks(a)doublesparks.net>

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Hitachi SAN Systems
by Bret Jacobson 10 Mar '06

10 Mar '06

Has anyone had experience with Hitachi's SAN devices? What I have always heard is that their products are good but their support is terrible. Any experiences with these units and/or support? Thx. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hitachi-SAN-Systems-t1259642.html#a3341204 Sent from the Network Appliance - Toasters forum at Nabble.com.

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RE: Hitachi SAN Systems
by Carter K. George 10 Mar '06

10 Mar '06

We do not find that to be true. Their storage is great, if expensive. But it is fast (probably the fastest, depending on which model you are talking about) block storage we have tested, and we have over 40 different Fibre Channel arrays here in our lab. It has also been rock solid, and support has been fine. If you are used to the EMC Symmetrix model, where the EMC service and support guy has to come out to your site if you want to do so much as reconfigure a LUN, then it may feel like HDS is doing less to support you. In our shop, we don't want that - we like being able to configure our own LUNs and tune the array(s) ourselves. As far as break/fix support, HDS has been fine. We have a Thunder 9585V and an NSC 55 (new TagmaStor architecture). These are both smokin' fast arrays for block storage. Carter -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Bret Jacobson Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:42 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Hitachi SAN Systems Has anyone had experience with Hitachi's SAN devices? What I have always heard is that their products are good but their support is terrible. Any experiences with these units and/or support? Thx. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hitachi-SAN-Systems-t1259642.html#a3341204 Sent from the Network Appliance - Toasters forum at Nabble.com.

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RE: Hitachi SAN Systems
by Ben Rockwood 10 Mar '06

10 Mar '06

In order to manage an HDS you require an externeal management system. For this reason I refuse to use an HDS. Frankly, when I tested their storage products, in their labs, I wasn't impressed with throughput. If you need midrange SAN storage I recommend looking at the Sun StorEdge 3510. You can manage it directly on the device, is easy to work with, pretty flexable, low cost, and has 8 Fibre ports on the box itself, making it perfect for situations where you don't have enough systems to justify buying a fabric switch. benr. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of Bret Jacobson Sent: Fri 3/10/2006 7:42 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Cc: Subject: Hitachi SAN Systems Has anyone had experience with Hitachi's SAN devices? What I have always heard is that their products are good but their support is terrible. Any experiences with these units and/or support? Thx. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Hitachi-SAN-Systems-t1259642.html#a3341204 Sent from the Network Appliance - Toasters forum at Nabble.com.

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ServerProtect for NetApps: Alerting Users
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10 Mar '06

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RE: SubInACL? What is the most effective method to change permiss ion on CIFSshares?
by Holland, William L 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

Here's a little script I use to set permissions and ownership on our users' home folders. I run this periodically to ensure our quotas are reflecting the proper users: yes.txt simply contains Y with a hard return. na_ntfschown is available from the NOW site in the tools downloads. net use x: \\filer\users <file://\\;filer\users> /persistent:no x: for /d %%f in (*) do cacls %%f /t /c /g Administrators:F System:F domain\%%f:C < pathtoscript\yes.txt for /d %%f in (*) do pathtoscript\na_ntfschown /r domain\%%f %%f c: net use x: /delete _____ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:rkelley@forsythe.com] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:48 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: SubInACL? What is the most effective method to change permission on CIFSshares? A project is underway to migrate from an existing local Active Directory domain to a new Global domain. Is the use of Microsoft's SubInACL utility the most effective method to change the file / directory permission for the CIFS shares under Data ONTAP to reflect the new Global domain?

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SubInACL? What is the most effective method to change permission on CIFS shares?
by RJ Kelley 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

A project is underway to migrate from an existing local Active Directory domain to a new Global domain. Is the use of Microsoft's SubInACL utility the most effective method to change the file / directory permission for the CIFS shares under Data ONTAP to reflect the new Global domain?

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RE: wafl scan reallocate
by Glenn Walker 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

Looks like you are doing pretty good... Keep in mind, it's an average, so for specific data sets in the volume it may be much higher (or lower). Workload measurements (statit during specific operations) can tell you much more sometimes. Filling the volume is typically a bad idea (tm) as WAFL will spend more time finding free space to write. If this is a flexvol and the aggr has tons of space available, this is not a concern. 7.X has great improvements on fixing fragmentation and preventative measures to keep it from becoming an issue. Remember: Fragmentation is NORMAL with any filesystem and isn't necessarily a problem. What fragmentation _does_ do is introduce latencies that can be detrimental to responsiveness... sometimes this can be felt (ie, it's a problem), sometimes it cannot be felt... Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Lori Barfield Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:57 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: wafl scan reallocate since toasters said it was harmless, just to find out what kind of fragmentation our normal activity creates, i ran wafl scan measure_layout on our busiest filer. the volume is only about 3-4 months young, but it does get pretty full on a regular basis. here's the output that appeared in my messages file: Tue Mar 7 15:16:36 PST [wafl.scan.start:info]: Starting WAFL layout measurement on volume vol1. Tue Mar 7 16:04:06 PST [wafl.scan.layout.advise:info]: WAFL layout ratio for volume vol1 is 1.26. A ratio of 1 is optimal. Based on your free space, 6.53 is expected. i haven't read up on this at all yet...would someone like to interpret this for us wafl scan newbies? ...lori

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RE: wafl scan reallocate
by Glenn Walker 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

Oh that... the 'free space' statement is just a prediction of how fragmented it THINKS you should be based on the free space available. WAFL writes anywhere it can find a hole on disk (to put it very simply, that is... there is a much more complex algorithm behind it in reality). Given this, when the disk starts filling up, the likelihood of finding non-contiguous blocks increases... meaning with less free space, you should have more fragmentation. I believe that to be the root of the 'free space\fragmentation' statement that wafl scan reallocate gives as output. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Lori Barfield Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:25 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: wafl scan reallocate On 3/8/06, Glenn Walker <ggwalker(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > Lori, > > From what I recall about the way WAFL scans, and what I can infer from > that, I don't believe that a fragmented filesystem would make the scan > take any longer. > > If I'm correct in my thinking, it scans the blocks contiguously and > determines how many blocks that belong together (for files) are actually > in the same place. The ratio is where the index comes from... thanks, glen. if it's that simple then i wonder what it's doing with the "free space" factor. ...lori

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RE: wafl scan reallocate
by Glenn Walker 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

Lori, From what I recall about the way WAFL scans, and what I can infer from that, I don't believe that a fragmented filesystem would make the scan take any longer. If I'm correct in my thinking, it scans the blocks contiguously and determines how many blocks that belong together (for files) are actually in the same place. The ratio is where the index comes from... Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Lori Barfield Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:12 PM To: philip.boyle(a)eircom.net Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: wafl scan reallocate another data point for the group. the previous scan was run on our busiest filer (an fas270); below is the impact of doing a scan on our largest user data filer. this filer is an fas270 with one ds14. there are 11 disks in the raid group (and aggregate). the volume is only 3-4 months old, but storage utilization vascillates wildly on this puppy but it usually operates above 95% and has run out of space several times in its young life. we are not snapmirroring. i think we are currently using 995gb (.97tb) on the volume including snap, but someone should check my calculation (df below). i started the scan at the beginning of lunchtime, when the filer happened to be nearly quiescent. it took 54 minutes. it killed my cache but only sucked up 7-12% of the cpu. i imagine a low fragmentation condition would make a scan less taxing. ...lori /vol/vol1/ 1132462080KB 917995432KB 214466648KB 81% /vol/vol1/ /vol/vol1/.snapshot 125829120KB 153743936KB 0KB 122% /vol/vol1/.snap shot cartman*> sysstat 1 CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 1% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 >60 1% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 >60 1% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 >60 1% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 >60 1% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 >60 4% 0 0 0 0 0 607 563 0 0 >60 cartman*> wafl scan measure_layout vol1 cartman*> Wed Mar 8 12:15:05 PST [wafl.scan.start:info]: Starting WAFL layout measurement on volume vol1. cartman*> sysstat 1 CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 8% 0 0 0 0 0 583 0 0 0 15 10% 0 0 0 0 0 1168 572 0 0 15 7% 0 0 0 0 0 636 0 0 0 15 8% 0 0 0 0 0 648 0 0 0 15 8% 0 0 0 0 0 632 0 0 0 15 8% 0 0 0 0 0 660 0 0 0 15 7% 0 0 0 0 0 636 0 0 0 15 9% 0 0 0 0 0 696 0 0 0 15 8% 0 0 0 0 0 696 0 0 0 15 12% 0 0 0 0 0 844 0 0 0 15 7% 0 0 0 0 0 668 0 0 0 16 CPU NFS CIFS HTTP Net kB/s Disk kB/s Tape kB/s Cache in out read write read write age 7% 0 0 0 0 0 592 0 0 0 4 8% 0 0 0 1 0 736 0 0 0 4 11% 0 0 0 0 0 756 0 0 0 4 10% 0 0 0 0 0 864 0 0 0 4 11% 0 0 0 0 0 920 0 0 0 4 8% 0 0 0 0 0 644 0 0 0 4 cartman*> Wed Mar 8 13:09:00 PST [wafl.scan.layout.advise:info]: WAFL layout ratio for volume vol1 is 1.22. A ratio of 1 is optimal. Based on your free space, 3.94 is expected.

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RE: wafl scan reallocate
by Glenn Walker 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

Lori, It's an index value based on how full the volume is. It's a bit arbitrary as far as values go, but the gist of the output is that you've got less fragmentation than the scanner expected you to have. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Lori Barfield Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 12:02 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: wafl scan reallocate On 3/7/06, Glenn Walker <ggwalker(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > Looks like you are doing pretty good... > > Keep in mind, it's an average, so for specific data sets in the volume > it may be much higher (or lower). Workload measurements (statit during > specific operations) can tell you much more sometimes. > > Filling the volume is typically a bad idea (tm) as WAFL will spend more > time finding free space to write. If this is a flexvol and the aggr has > tons of space available, this is not a concern. > > 7.X has great improvements on fixing fragmentation and preventative > measures to keep it from becoming an issue. > > Remember: Fragmentation is NORMAL with any filesystem and isn't > necessarily a problem. What fragmentation _does_ do is introduce > latencies that can be detrimental to responsiveness... sometimes this > can be felt (ie, it's a problem), sometimes it cannot be felt... thanks, glenn. can you tell us what this means? Based on your free space, 6.53 is expected. ...lori

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CIFS Writes delayed
by Bret Jacobson 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

Running a 3050c (7.0.4), and for about an hour we had several instances where generic accounts could not write to specified CIFS shares. They could map them and read them but no writes. The issue then resolved itself. I didn't see any errors on the filers (cifs overdue requests or dc issues), however, given the scope of the problem and the mysterious fix leads me to belive it was an AD issue. I just wanted throw this out there and see if anyone else had run into this. Thx. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/CIFS-Writes-delayed-t1240082.html#a3281887 Sent from the Network Appliance - Toasters forum at Nabble.com.

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RE: CIFS Writes delayed
by Callaway, Michael 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

Did you have a drive fail during that time period? Thanks, Michael NTTA/IT http://www.ntta.org 214.461.2033 -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Bret Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:52 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: CIFS Writes delayed Running a 3050c (7.0.4), and for about an hour we had several instances where generic accounts could not write to specified CIFS shares. They could map them and read them but no writes. The issue then resolved itself. I didn't see any errors on the filers (cifs overdue requests or dc issues), however, given the scope of the problem and the mysterious fix leads me to belive it was an AD issue. I just wanted throw this out there and see if anyone else had run into this. Thx. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/CIFS-Writes-delayed-t1240082.html#a3281887 Sent from the Network Appliance - Toasters forum at Nabble.com.

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RE: Fwd: rsh times out after 5 min
by Lai, Derek 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

So we can use SSH with DOT 7.x without needing any additional licensing? Derek -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Tim McCarthy Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:53 AM To: Sheldon Mustard Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Fwd: rsh times out after 5 min Nope. Sorry. Prior to 7.0, NetApp issued a pass-through license fee from RSA fo ruse of the SSH implementation. In 7.0, that module was completely rewritten in C code (which makes it significantly faster than the JAVA code in pre-7 releases). It was developed from the OpenSSH stuff which is free and requires no pass through license fee. If you *really* want SSH, you should look at upgrading to 7.x if you can. (i.e. out of luck with a 700 series or F85) Sheldon Mustard wrote: > On 3/7/06, Tim McCarthy <tmacmd(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Have you tried ssh? I use it exclusively. It is easy to setup to use >> without passwords.... > > Does ssh work in 6.5 without an additional license? I have been able > to get ssl working but but not ssh ... any ideas? When I tell it to > enable ssh2 it says "SecureAdmin is not installed", do I need to > install some binaries from the now site. > > SJM > > -- > Sheldon Mustard > smustard(a)gmail.com > "There will be no order, only chaos." - Pi (1998) > -- > >

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RE: iSCSI on Windows Question
by Lai, Derek 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

We were also running without SnapDrive for a long time. About 2 years. I just recently upgraded to use SnapDrive. If you don't need to do snapshot on the fly, you can do without SnapDrive. However, you need to shutdown your server before you take a snapshot and growing luns take a long time since you need to use something like diskpart yourself. SnapDrive makes all these tasks a breeze. It also is pretty low cost. Derek -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Joseph King Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:11 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: iSCSI on Windows Question Is anyone running iSCSI on windows without SnapDrive or is it just a big pain w/o SnapDrive? How does SnapDrive for Windows make your life easier, is it work the license? Joe

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RE: rsh times out after 5 min
by Holland, William L 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

No NIDS involved. This network is not visibleto our production network. -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Dekhayser [mailto:gdekhayser@voyantinc.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:45 AM To: Holland, William L; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: rsh times out after 5 min ....Most likely because they are using Snort NIDS to log all access to the filer (government work). Understandable. If you used SSH, they couldn't see what you were doing! Of course, unless you used the serial console.... :-) Glenn -----Original Message----- In our environment the "owners" of the Intranet expressly forbid using SSH on our filers. I am also expressly forbidden to use any form of shareware or freeware and I do not wish to purchase a software package for this one task. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:Mike_Sphar@bmc.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:27 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: rsh times out after 5 min I agree totally. I don't mean to lean on anyone to change anything, just wanted to point out there are decent free ssh utilities for windows. (I use SecureCRT personally as I've used it for a long time, but it's not free.) -- Michael W. Sphar - IS&T - Lead Systems Administrator SMBU Engineering Support Services, BMC Software -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:35 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: rsh times out after 5 min Mike Sphar writes > There are free/open-source ssh utilities for windows, like putty. Yes, yes, but ... It seems quite inappropriate to lean on William to convert from rsh to ssh until we know what the cause of his 5-minute cutoff is. For all we know, it will apply just as much to ssh as to rsh. If it's an "idle"-TCP-connection detector somewhere, it probably will. -- Chris Thompson Email: cet1(a)cam.ac.uk

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