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Managing Quotas from home-grown app
by Ronan Mullally 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

I've got a requirement to manage filer quotas from a home grown admin application. The basic functionality would be: 1) read user quota for user X 2) read group quota for group Y 3) set user quota for user X 4) set group quota for group Y 1) and 2) can be accomplished fairly easily via SNMP, however 3) and 4) do not appear to be as straightforward. Having read the quotas chapter in the storage admin guide it appears the only way to control quotas is via the /etc/quotas file. This means that whenever a quota changes (which I'd expect to occur several times a day) I need to re-write /etc/quotas and do a quota re-size or re-build. Is there no more elegant way of doing this - via SNMP perhaps? -Ronan

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Snaphost dir showing in Automount
by Steven Lim 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Hi Toasters, Any idea why when I run 'du -k .' command in a AUTOMOUNT mountpoint, the .snapshot dir shows & added in to the total space. This is misleading of the actually space in the directory. Likewise, running the same command in a MANUALLY MOUNT mountpoint doesn't show the .snapshot dir. Thanks for any help.

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Undeliverable mail: RETURNED MAIL: DATA FORMAT ERROR
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01 Jun '06

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Re: **SPAM** Snaphost dir showing in Automount
by Roger Stansfield 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Steven, I found a similar thing when using find on a manually mounted and automounted mountpoint. (Solaris 2.6, not tried anything else but I will). However, find /home/filer/* (even as root) didn't traverse snapshots I also seemed to come across mount filer:/vol/vol1/mnt find /mnt/users traversed snapshots but mount filer:/vol/vol1/users find /mnt did not (or the other way round!). Something like that. Anyway in the end I concocted something that worked for me. Maybe some form of du -k * might help. Roger -- > Roger Stansfield, > Rowett Research Institute, Bucksburn, Aberdeen, AB21 9SB, Scotland, U.K. > Telephone: 01224 716677. Fax: 01224 715349. > mailto:R.Stansfield@rri.sari.ac.uk http://www.rowett.ac.uk/

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RE: Managing Quotas from home-grown app
by Warkentin, Grant 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

FWIW... We use Data Fabric Manager to set our user quotas. DFM does not do tree quotas. I still have to edit the quota file and restart or resize (restart if it's a net new tree quota (OnTap 7.01)). I find that DFM is real handy for user quotas in our environment. We have several qtrees each with a default user quota. Only need to use DFM if I need to override the default quota for a user. By doing it this way I only need to manage the 200 users that need over rides. The rest get the default settings. DFM removes the need to do a Restart/Resize when adjusting user quotas. Currently not using group quotas (Quotaing only used for Windows users). Have no idea if DFM handles these or not. DFM is not the ultimate solution but it's price was right ($0.00). NOTICE - This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Losen Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:09 AM To: Ronan Mullally Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: Managing Quotas from home-grown app > > I've got a requirement to manage filer quotas from a home grown admin > application. The basic functionality would be: > > 1) read user quota for user X > 2) read group quota for group Y > 3) set user quota for user X > 4) set group quota for group Y > > 1) and 2) can be accomplished fairly easily via SNMP, however 3) > and 4) do not appear to be as straightforward. > > Having read the quotas chapter in the storage admin guide it appears > the only way to control quotas is via the /etc/quotas file. This means > that whenever a quota changes (which I'd expect to occur several times > a day) I need to re-write /etc/quotas and do a quota re-size or re-build. > > Is there no more elegant way of doing this - via SNMP perhaps? > You are stuck with editing the quotas file. You probably found out from the manual that netapp quotas are very complex, so that is why quotas are specified in a file. There is no way to set a single quota for a user or group on a netapp (unless you have a single volume with no qtrees in it). Each volume and qtree has its own user and group quotas, so one user can potentially have hundreds of different quotas. Fortunately the quotas file allows you to set default quotas, so you do not explicitly specify all of these quotas in practice. Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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RE: performance problems with filer and snapmirror
by Willeke, Jochen 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

As i did some tests with a Nearstore running Ontap 7.0.4, too. I can say that is it not related to the Ontap version. I can say after various tests is that all access to this system are slow as long as the snapmirror runs. And all snapmirror operations last very long. It takes about 1 minute to copy 1MB :-) After having a look at the network i saw not much traffic coming out of my filer. I will open a Call with Netapp as my knowledge is only limited ;-) Nevertheless, thanks a lot to all of you!! Regards Jochen -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Walker [mailto:ggwalker@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:38 PM To: philip.boyle(a)eircom.net; Willeke, Jochen Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: performance problems with filer and snapmirror Snapmirror will continue to work until Jochen moves to a . release (ie, 7.0 vs 7.1). He is currently running two releases in the 7.0 family. This is similar to using 6.4.1 vs 6.4.2 for comparison purposes. FWIW, QSM would not really care at all unless you had a file type that only existed on one release (ie, if you wanted to, QSM would work between 6.2 and 6.4 - but it wouldn't be able to move LUNs to the 6.2 system). Even though it should work, I wouldn't recommend it. As for the performance problem, I'd start with some questions: WHAT is slow (CIFS? NFS?) WHEN is it slow (Morning? Afternoon?) WHO is it slow for (all clients? Only some?) Then I'd communicate with NetApp Global Services (the support center in particular) to gather a perfstat and continue troubleshooting this issue. For example - if the CPU is never beyond 40% to 60%, the '-P flat' flag will probably not be of much use. FYI - Perfstat only automates command execution for things that already exist in ONTAP (many are in 'advanced' or 'diag' modes. If you wanted to, you could probably start with statit to see what is going on... but I'd definitely recommend speaking with NGS first, and they'll likely recommend perfstat as well. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Philip Boyle Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:33 AM To: Willeke, Jochen Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: performance problems with filer and snapmirror Hi Jochen, I would have thought the snapmirror relationship would be now broken given the release differentiation? Should the R200 not require a minimum of ONTAP 7.0.4 in order to continue mirroring data from the source ( FAS3050 )? I found ONTAP 7.0.1R1 to be quite buggy and has numerous snapmirroring bugs fixed in ONTAP 7.0.4. In particular BURT 157883 which allowed me to oversubscribe my containing aggregate. http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/bol?Type=Detail&Display=157883 In order to debug your existing problem, I'd advise running 'perfstat' on FAS3050 and asking Netapp Support to review the output. perfstat.sh -f 'filername' -t 5 -i 3,0 -P flat >> 'logfile' Regards, Philip On Thursday 01 June 2006 09:17, Willeke, Jochen wrote: > Hello toasters, > > today we have a few problems with a FAS3050 (Ontap 7.0.4) which is very > slow, as the users tell me. When i do a sysstat i see the CPU always > between 40 and 60% which is not too much. > > I also had a look at the ocupied space in the aggregates and it should > be ok, too. According to this we have a snapmirror-relation to a > Nearstore R200 (Ontap 7.0.1R1) which is very slow. The network is not > the bottleneck as we have an own storagenet (1Gb Ethernet) for these > systems. > > I now wonder where is shall look for deeper analysis. I am a little > confused right now. Perhaps anybody can help with some kind of commands > different to sysstat :-) > > Best Regards > > Jochen -- ------------------ Philip Boyle Senior Systems Administrator Eircom.net philip.boyle(a)eircom.net tel: +353 1 701 0921 mob: +353 85 1744 354

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RE: performance problems with filer and snapmirror
by Glenn Walker 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Snapmirror will continue to work until Jochen moves to a . release (ie, 7.0 vs 7.1). He is currently running two releases in the 7.0 family. This is similar to using 6.4.1 vs 6.4.2 for comparison purposes. FWIW, QSM would not really care at all unless you had a file type that only existed on one release (ie, if you wanted to, QSM would work between 6.2 and 6.4 - but it wouldn't be able to move LUNs to the 6.2 system). Even though it should work, I wouldn't recommend it. As for the performance problem, I'd start with some questions: WHAT is slow (CIFS? NFS?) WHEN is it slow (Morning? Afternoon?) WHO is it slow for (all clients? Only some?) Then I'd communicate with NetApp Global Services (the support center in particular) to gather a perfstat and continue troubleshooting this issue. For example - if the CPU is never beyond 40% to 60%, the '-P flat' flag will probably not be of much use. FYI - Perfstat only automates command execution for things that already exist in ONTAP (many are in 'advanced' or 'diag' modes. If you wanted to, you could probably start with statit to see what is going on... but I'd definitely recommend speaking with NGS first, and they'll likely recommend perfstat as well. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Philip Boyle Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:33 AM To: Willeke, Jochen Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: performance problems with filer and snapmirror Hi Jochen, I would have thought the snapmirror relationship would be now broken given the release differentiation? Should the R200 not require a minimum of ONTAP 7.0.4 in order to continue mirroring data from the source ( FAS3050 )? I found ONTAP 7.0.1R1 to be quite buggy and has numerous snapmirroring bugs fixed in ONTAP 7.0.4. In particular BURT 157883 which allowed me to oversubscribe my containing aggregate. http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/bol?Type=Detail&Display=157883 In order to debug your existing problem, I'd advise running 'perfstat' on FAS3050 and asking Netapp Support to review the output. perfstat.sh -f 'filername' -t 5 -i 3,0 -P flat >> 'logfile' Regards, Philip On Thursday 01 June 2006 09:17, Willeke, Jochen wrote: > Hello toasters, > > today we have a few problems with a FAS3050 (Ontap 7.0.4) which is very > slow, as the users tell me. When i do a sysstat i see the CPU always > between 40 and 60% which is not too much. > > I also had a look at the ocupied space in the aggregates and it should > be ok, too. According to this we have a snapmirror-relation to a > Nearstore R200 (Ontap 7.0.1R1) which is very slow. The network is not > the bottleneck as we have an own storagenet (1Gb Ethernet) for these > systems. > > I now wonder where is shall look for deeper analysis. I am a little > confused right now. Perhaps anybody can help with some kind of commands > different to sysstat :-) > > Best Regards > > Jochen -- ------------------ Philip Boyle Senior Systems Administrator Eircom.net philip.boyle(a)eircom.net tel: +353 1 701 0921 mob: +353 85 1744 354

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performance problems with filer and snapmirror
by Willeke, Jochen 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Hello toasters, today we have a few problems with a FAS3050 (Ontap 7.0.4) which is very slow, as the users tell me. When i do a sysstat i see the CPU always between 40 and 60% which is not too much. I also had a look at the ocupied space in the aggregates and it should be ok, too. According to this we have a snapmirror-relation to a Nearstore R200 (Ontap 7.0.1R1) which is very slow. The network is not the bottleneck as we have an own storagenet (1Gb Ethernet) for these systems. I now wonder where is shall look for deeper analysis. I am a little confused right now. Perhaps anybody can help with some kind of commands different to sysstat :-) Best Regards Jochen

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31 May '06

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820 Ontap 6.5.6 looses connections
by Stephen C Woods 31 May '06

31 May '06

We're completely baffled. NetApp Release 6.5.6: Tue Oct 4 16:54:43 PDT 2005 System ID: 0033602136 (royce) System Serial Number 102XXX (royce) System Rev: B0 Backplane Part Number: 0 Backplane Rev: B0 Backplane Serial Number: 1028811 slot 0: System Board Processors: 1 Memory Size: 1024 MB CIOB Revision ID: 3 slot 0: FastEnet-10/100 Ethernet Controller e0 MAC Address: 00:a0:98:00:dd:77 (auto-unknown-cfg_down) slot 4: Gigabit Ethernet Controller III e4 MAC Address: 00:03:47:b2:de:a0 (auto-1000sx-fd-up) slot 8: FC Host Adapter 8 42 Disks: 1449.0GB 6 shelves with VEM slot 11: NVRAM Memory Size: 128 MB Directly connected to a Cisco C6506. For the past 15 days we've been suffering from dropped (and resumed after some random time) NSF connections. What has been occurring is that the file stops responding (e.g. to pings). Connecting to the console and pinging anything restarts connections. We have another identical machine that is NOT having any problems. We have swapped NIC, Fiber cable, GBICs on the Cisco, switched ports on the Cisco, and even swapped our spare head in. Any one have any ideas? <scw> postmaster(a)seas.ucla.edu -- ----- Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASnet; 2567 Boelter hall; LA CA 90095; (310)-825-8614 Unless otherwise noted these statements are my own, Not those of the University of California. Internet mail:scw@seas.ucla.edu

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Looking for recommendations on a fibre channel HBA to connect a Sun v480 to a NetApp FAS3020
by Demaagd, Dave 31 May '06

31 May '06

Currently have a Sun v480 running Solaris 8, and some time in the next month or so, I'll be getting an FAS3020, and I want to hook the two units together via fibre channel, and I'm looking for recommendations on what would be a good HBA to use (or even what not to use - I'm open to any information at this point). What I've found so far, from a little googling, seems to indicate that there's not a lot out there outside of Sun's StorageTek line. -- Dave DeMaagd, DOL QA Engineering dave.demaagd(a)dig.com | 8186233755 | 8182627958

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Qtrees in 7.2
by Grey Friday 31 May '06

31 May '06

I have heard that file permissions will be preserved on mixed qtrees. Does anyone know if this is the case and how it works? Thanks, Grey

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RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct
by Glenn Walker 31 May '06

31 May '06

Essentially, the drive was sent a SCSI command and wasn't ready\capable of facilitating that command. Unsure which command in question was issued, but I recollect that it has typically meant 'no response'. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Willeke, Jochen [mailto:Jochen.Willeke@wincor-nixdorf.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:54 AM To: Glenn Walker; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Hi, one additional question about this issue. What actually happend that made ontap produce this error: [scsi.cmd.notReadyCondition:notice]: Device 2b.35: Device returns not yet ready: CDB 0x28:18974bb9:0009: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(65103) I have never seen this error before!?! Regards and thanks for your support Jochen -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Walker [mailto:ggwalker@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:44 PM To: Willeke, Jochen; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Basically it appears that the disk started to work correctly again (ie, it was responsive to commands). At that point, it will return it to spare pool... Most of the time disks don't actually physically fail - ONTAP is very concerned about data consistency so it will fail misbehaving drives so that it no longer uses them. Sometimes the drives start behaving again, and can be used... ATA drives are very bad for this: they typically go into internal recovery procedures and don't communicate status to the controller\OS - FCAL drives are very good about communicating status and continuing with other operations in the meantime. I've typically seen this behavior on R200's more than FAS-series (with FCAL drives). Out of curiosity - are you utilizing 7.0.4 or newer? Wondering if maintenance garage would help... Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Willeke, Jochen Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:50 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Hello Toasters :-) i have seen something strange on one of our R200. Last week i got an error message with the following output: [scsi.cmd.notReadyCondition:notice]: Device 2b.35: Device returns not yet ready: CDB 0x28:18974bb9:0009: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(65103). [scsi.cmd.checkCondition:error]: Device 2b.35: Check Condition: CDB 0x28:154efb9d:022e: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(209311). [raid.config.filesystem.disk.recovering:error]: Attempting to bring file system Disk /aggr0/plex0/rg1/2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE] back into service. ......normal procedure of taking one spare and reconstruct the raid group. But then comes what i am wondering about..... [raid.assim.disk.spare:notice]: Sparing Disk /2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE], because volume is online and complete The System takes the broken disk as a spare?!? How can this be? Perhaps anybody can help because NOW does not explain this situation deep enough to make it understandable to me :D Regards Jochen

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RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct
by Willeke, Jochen 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hi, one additional question about this issue. What actually happend that made ontap produce this error: [scsi.cmd.notReadyCondition:notice]: Device 2b.35: Device returns not yet ready: CDB 0x28:18974bb9:0009: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(65103) I have never seen this error before!?! Regards and thanks for your support Jochen -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Walker [mailto:ggwalker@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:44 PM To: Willeke, Jochen; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Basically it appears that the disk started to work correctly again (ie, it was responsive to commands). At that point, it will return it to spare pool... Most of the time disks don't actually physically fail - ONTAP is very concerned about data consistency so it will fail misbehaving drives so that it no longer uses them. Sometimes the drives start behaving again, and can be used... ATA drives are very bad for this: they typically go into internal recovery procedures and don't communicate status to the controller\OS - FCAL drives are very good about communicating status and continuing with other operations in the meantime. I've typically seen this behavior on R200's more than FAS-series (with FCAL drives). Out of curiosity - are you utilizing 7.0.4 or newer? Wondering if maintenance garage would help... Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Willeke, Jochen Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:50 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Hello Toasters :-) i have seen something strange on one of our R200. Last week i got an error message with the following output: [scsi.cmd.notReadyCondition:notice]: Device 2b.35: Device returns not yet ready: CDB 0x28:18974bb9:0009: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(65103). [scsi.cmd.checkCondition:error]: Device 2b.35: Check Condition: CDB 0x28:154efb9d:022e: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(209311). [raid.config.filesystem.disk.recovering:error]: Attempting to bring file system Disk /aggr0/plex0/rg1/2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE] back into service. ......normal procedure of taking one spare and reconstruct the raid group. But then comes what i am wondering about..... [raid.assim.disk.spare:notice]: Sparing Disk /2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE], because volume is online and complete The System takes the broken disk as a spare?!? How can this be? Perhaps anybody can help because NOW does not explain this situation deep enough to make it understandable to me :D Regards Jochen

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RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct
by Glenn Walker 31 May '06

31 May '06

Maintenance Garage is a new functionality (introduced in 7.0.4 I believe) that helps to remove drives when they aren't functioning properly and trying to recover them without outright failing them. It is also supposed to allow operations to continue to all other drives in the raidgroup and when\if the drive is recoverable only update the changes that the one questionable drive has missed. I'm paraphrasing quite a bit, but I recall that to be the gist. Either way, pretty cool stuff. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Willeke, Jochen [mailto:Jochen.Willeke@wincor-nixdorf.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:51 AM To: Glenn Walker; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Hi toasters, we are running 7.0.1R1. BTW: what is the maintenance garage? Never heard of this. Regards Jochen -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Walker [mailto:ggwalker@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:44 PM To: Willeke, Jochen; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Basically it appears that the disk started to work correctly again (ie, it was responsive to commands). At that point, it will return it to spare pool... Most of the time disks don't actually physically fail - ONTAP is very concerned about data consistency so it will fail misbehaving drives so that it no longer uses them. Sometimes the drives start behaving again, and can be used... ATA drives are very bad for this: they typically go into internal recovery procedures and don't communicate status to the controller\OS - FCAL drives are very good about communicating status and continuing with other operations in the meantime. I've typically seen this behavior on R200's more than FAS-series (with FCAL drives). Out of curiosity - are you utilizing 7.0.4 or newer? Wondering if maintenance garage would help... Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Willeke, Jochen Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:50 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Hello Toasters :-) i have seen something strange on one of our R200. Last week i got an error message with the following output: [scsi.cmd.notReadyCondition:notice]: Device 2b.35: Device returns not yet ready: CDB 0x28:18974bb9:0009: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(65103). [scsi.cmd.checkCondition:error]: Device 2b.35: Check Condition: CDB 0x28:154efb9d:022e: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(209311). [raid.config.filesystem.disk.recovering:error]: Attempting to bring file system Disk /aggr0/plex0/rg1/2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE] back into service. ......normal procedure of taking one spare and reconstruct the raid group. But then comes what i am wondering about..... [raid.assim.disk.spare:notice]: Sparing Disk /2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE], because volume is online and complete The System takes the broken disk as a spare?!? How can this be? Perhaps anybody can help because NOW does not explain this situation deep enough to make it understandable to me :D Regards Jochen

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RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct
by Willeke, Jochen 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hi toasters, we are running 7.0.1R1. BTW: what is the maintenance garage? Never heard of this. Regards Jochen -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Walker [mailto:ggwalker@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:44 PM To: Willeke, Jochen; toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Basically it appears that the disk started to work correctly again (ie, it was responsive to commands). At that point, it will return it to spare pool... Most of the time disks don't actually physically fail - ONTAP is very concerned about data consistency so it will fail misbehaving drives so that it no longer uses them. Sometimes the drives start behaving again, and can be used... ATA drives are very bad for this: they typically go into internal recovery procedures and don't communicate status to the controller\OS - FCAL drives are very good about communicating status and continuing with other operations in the meantime. I've typically seen this behavior on R200's more than FAS-series (with FCAL drives). Out of curiosity - are you utilizing 7.0.4 or newer? Wondering if maintenance garage would help... Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Willeke, Jochen Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:50 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Hello Toasters :-) i have seen something strange on one of our R200. Last week i got an error message with the following output: [scsi.cmd.notReadyCondition:notice]: Device 2b.35: Device returns not yet ready: CDB 0x28:18974bb9:0009: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(65103). [scsi.cmd.checkCondition:error]: Device 2b.35: Check Condition: CDB 0x28:154efb9d:022e: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(209311). [raid.config.filesystem.disk.recovering:error]: Attempting to bring file system Disk /aggr0/plex0/rg1/2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE] back into service. ......normal procedure of taking one spare and reconstruct the raid group. But then comes what i am wondering about..... [raid.assim.disk.spare:notice]: Sparing Disk /2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE], because volume is online and complete The System takes the broken disk as a spare?!? How can this be? Perhaps anybody can help because NOW does not explain this situation deep enough to make it understandable to me :D Regards Jochen

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RE: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct
by Glenn Walker 31 May '06

31 May '06

Basically it appears that the disk started to work correctly again (ie, it was responsive to commands). At that point, it will return it to spare pool... Most of the time disks don't actually physically fail - ONTAP is very concerned about data consistency so it will fail misbehaving drives so that it no longer uses them. Sometimes the drives start behaving again, and can be used... ATA drives are very bad for this: they typically go into internal recovery procedures and don't communicate status to the controller\OS - FCAL drives are very good about communicating status and continuing with other operations in the meantime. I've typically seen this behavior on R200's more than FAS-series (with FCAL drives). Out of curiosity - are you utilizing 7.0.4 or newer? Wondering if maintenance garage would help... Glenn -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Willeke, Jochen Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:50 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct Hello Toasters :-) i have seen something strange on one of our R200. Last week i got an error message with the following output: [scsi.cmd.notReadyCondition:notice]: Device 2b.35: Device returns not yet ready: CDB 0x28:18974bb9:0009: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(65103). [scsi.cmd.checkCondition:error]: Device 2b.35: Check Condition: CDB 0x28:154efb9d:022e: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(209311). [raid.config.filesystem.disk.recovering:error]: Attempting to bring file system Disk /aggr0/plex0/rg1/2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE] back into service. ......normal procedure of taking one spare and reconstruct the raid group. But then comes what i am wondering about..... [raid.assim.disk.spare:notice]: Sparing Disk /2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE], because volume is online and complete The System takes the broken disk as a spare?!? How can this be? Perhaps anybody can help because NOW does not explain this situation deep enough to make it understandable to me :D Regards Jochen

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I: LDL
by l.lottolotto＠virgilio.it 31 May '06

31 May '06

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broken disk becomes spare after reconstruct
by Willeke, Jochen 31 May '06

31 May '06

Hello Toasters :-) i have seen something strange on one of our R200. Last week i got an error message with the following output: [scsi.cmd.notReadyCondition:notice]: Device 2b.35: Device returns not yet ready: CDB 0x28:18974bb9:0009: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(65103). [scsi.cmd.checkCondition:error]: Device 2b.35: Check Condition: CDB 0x28:154efb9d:022e: Sense Data SCSI:not ready - (0x2 - 0x4 0x7 0x2a)(209311). [raid.config.filesystem.disk.recovering:error]: Attempting to bring file system Disk /aggr0/plex0/rg1/2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE] back into service. ......normal procedure of taking one spare and reconstruct the raid group. But then comes what i am wondering about..... [raid.assim.disk.spare:notice]: Sparing Disk /2b.35 Shelf 2 Bay 3 [NETAPP X266_MTOMC320PAD R5VV] S/N [A81K4MBE], because volume is online and complete The System takes the broken disk as a spare?!? How can this be? Perhaps anybody can help because NOW does not explain this situation deep enough to make it understandable to me :D Regards Jochen

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Prayer Request !! (Please Read)
by Bernett Adelle 31 May '06

31 May '06

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Job Vacancy
by Subsea Gas Oil Company 31 May '06

31 May '06

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VoIP phone
by Telextreme 31 May '06

31 May '06

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RELAY TO THE MENTIONED CONTACT PERSON WITHIN
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30 May '06

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