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RE: Storage space overheads!
by Holland, William L 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

In a typical solution you lose 10% for WAFL overhead (disk serialization, mbr, etc). You then lose 5% for aggregate snap reserve and 20% for volume snap reserve. Actually, you don't lose the snap reserve space - this space is reserved to ensure enough space for typical snapshots (think of them as online backups). The snap reserve space can be changed. For instance, I always set the aggregate snap reserve to 0% -- I cannot foresee any situation where I would want to snap restore an entire aggregate. These numbers are for NAS. If you are using SAN (iSCSI or FCP LUNs) then you lose 50% of available space to be able to accommodate at least one full snapshot of the LUNs. To someone first starting out with NetApp solutions, these numbers sound horrible, I know I did. However, now that I've been using them for a few years I love it. The flexibility you get in disaster recovery, transferring data to other filers, etc is very much worth the tradeoff. -----Original Message----- From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of margesimpson(a)hushmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:38 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Storage space overheads! Hi all: Can anyone please give me total NetApp overheads including, file systems, aggr reserve, snap reserve, wafl overhead, parity disks (raid_dp), etc, etc. say, 10 x 100GB = 1000GB total. what usable space should i finally get after all those overheads. Can anyone give me proper figures/ math and proper break up of above figure? I heard NetApp solution has lot of disk overheads! Thank you in advance. Marge. Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485

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Storage space overheads!
by margesimpson＠hushmail.com 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

Hi all: Can anyone please give me total NetApp overheads including, file systems, aggr reserve, snap reserve, wafl overhead, parity disks (raid_dp), etc, etc. say, 10 x 100GB = 1000GB total. what usable space should i finally get after all those overheads. Can anyone give me proper figures/ math and proper break up of above figure? I heard NetApp solution has lot of disk overheads! Thank you in advance. Marge. Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485

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RE: Storage space overheads!
by George, Andrew 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

Also...if your using aggregates take another 5% off the top for Agg snapshot _____ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Walker Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2006 1:52 PM To: Glenn Dekhayser; margesimpson(a)hushmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Storage space overheads! 10% overhead for WAFL, FYI. As to what Glenn says, I agree - start with storage space needed, then figure performance. Don't fill the remaining volume beyond 90% if possible (unless it's all archive-type data). As for your question before: If you use RaidDP, you'll lose 2 disks for every raid group (typically 16 disks total, or 14D+2P) The disks are right-sized (to ensure that every manufacturer has disks with the same size, start to end - ie, Hitachi and Seagate drives are NOT the same size in # blocks) You're left with # data disks * disk size, MINUS 10% WAFL overhead. After that, factor in snapshot reserve (20% by default) and space reservations if needed. In the case of 320GB ATA disks, the right size is actually 274400 MB (the 320GB is a raw or unformatted capacity - you can thank the ATA drive manufacturers for that misleading info). A RG of size 16 would net you 3457440MB after 10% overhead. If you don't need snapshots, that's your usable space - if you do need snapshot reserve, just subtract that from the total. Using LUNs (especially with snapdrive) changes the rules because of the 2x overhead it enforces. This is actually changed in with something called fractional reserve (snapdrive supports fractional reserve with SD 4.0 and ONTAP 7.1) The reason for all of the overhead: data protection. Netapp doesn't sell space - they sell insurance. They sell protection from data loss FIRST, then performance\manageability, and lastly space. I would say that NetApp has no more overhead than any other vendor that has snapshot like capabilities (and probably less given that everyone else is a copy-on-write implementation thusfar). Glenn _____ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Dekhayser Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:11 PM To: margesimpson(a)hushmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Storage space overheads! The most overused sentence: "It depends". When I design Netapp solutions, I work backwards from how much usable storage I'm going to need for the next 12-18 months. Then I also determine what kind of aggregate IOPS I'm going to need from my disks. From that, it's a fairly simple calculation. OK, so it's not; I have a complicated excel spreadsheet that I worked on for about a month before I was confident the answers were close enough to use in designs; but before you start putting everything together capacity wise you should have a good idea of how many disks you're going to need to satisfy your performance requirements. There's the obvious parity or dual-parity overhead, and the hot spare (or multiple hot spares, depending on how many disks you've got in the system). There's the snapshot reserve for NAS volumes (20% by default, you may need more or less)- but that reserve depends highly upon the amount of changes and deletes you have in a given volume. If you are using LUNs with snapshots, you need to multiple the size of the LUNs by 2.2 (2x for the overwrite reserve and another 20% for the internal data change rates inside a given lun, again change for your own environment). There's the WAFL RAID overhead; I've never gotten a real good feel for that but let's call it 5%- (anyone care to amend that?) Now also keep in mind that WAFL volumes don't really like to be more than 90% full because of the way they lay down data; I like to keep mine at 80% or lower. That's about all the overheads I can think of. Sound like a lot? Any vendor with snapshot technology is going to have the same issue of reserving loads of space for it, and they will use raid-5, which requires a net loss of one disk every 5-8 disks (and be slow under write load). Netapp goes 14 disks per parity (in either raid4 or dp). And everyone with a hardware raid has some raid overhead. Unless you're using raid 10, but then you're buying twice the disk, aren't you? Bottom line is that Netapp does require you to invest some of your disk in data and physical availability. It's well worth it, and it's comparable to every other enterprise system out there. If all you need is dumb disk with no overhead and no avanced features, there are plenty of RAID-0 solutions out there that will FC connect. Glenn (the other one) _____ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of margesimpson(a)hushmail.com Sent: Wed 7/26/2006 9:38 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Storage space overheads! Hi all: Can anyone please give me total NetApp overheads including, file systems, aggr reserve, snap reserve, wafl overhead, parity disks (raid_dp), etc, etc. say, 10 x 100GB = 1000GB total. what usable space should i finally get after all those overheads. Can anyone give me proper figures/ math and proper break up of above figure? I heard NetApp solution has lot of disk overheads! Thank you in advance. Marge. Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485

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RE: Storage space overheads!
by Glenn Walker 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

10% overhead for WAFL, FYI. As to what Glenn says, I agree - start with storage space needed, then figure performance. Don't fill the remaining volume beyond 90% if possible (unless it's all archive-type data). As for your question before: If you use RaidDP, you'll lose 2 disks for every raid group (typically 16 disks total, or 14D+2P) The disks are right-sized (to ensure that every manufacturer has disks with the same size, start to end - ie, Hitachi and Seagate drives are NOT the same size in # blocks) You're left with # data disks * disk size, MINUS 10% WAFL overhead. After that, factor in snapshot reserve (20% by default) and space reservations if needed. In the case of 320GB ATA disks, the right size is actually 274400 MB (the 320GB is a raw or unformatted capacity - you can thank the ATA drive manufacturers for that misleading info). A RG of size 16 would net you 3457440MB after 10% overhead. If you don't need snapshots, that's your usable space - if you do need snapshot reserve, just subtract that from the total. Using LUNs (especially with snapdrive) changes the rules because of the 2x overhead it enforces. This is actually changed in with something called fractional reserve (snapdrive supports fractional reserve with SD 4.0 and ONTAP 7.1) The reason for all of the overhead: data protection. Netapp doesn't sell space - they sell insurance. They sell protection from data loss FIRST, then performance\manageability, and lastly space. I would say that NetApp has no more overhead than any other vendor that has snapshot like capabilities (and probably less given that everyone else is a copy-on-write implementation thusfar). Glenn ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Dekhayser Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:11 PM To: margesimpson(a)hushmail.com Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: Storage space overheads! The most overused sentence: "It depends". When I design Netapp solutions, I work backwards from how much usable storage I'm going to need for the next 12-18 months. Then I also determine what kind of aggregate IOPS I'm going to need from my disks. From that, it's a fairly simple calculation. OK, so it's not; I have a complicated excel spreadsheet that I worked on for about a month before I was confident the answers were close enough to use in designs; but before you start putting everything together capacity wise you should have a good idea of how many disks you're going to need to satisfy your performance requirements. There's the obvious parity or dual-parity overhead, and the hot spare (or multiple hot spares, depending on how many disks you've got in the system). There's the snapshot reserve for NAS volumes (20% by default, you may need more or less)- but that reserve depends highly upon the amount of changes and deletes you have in a given volume. If you are using LUNs with snapshots, you need to multiple the size of the LUNs by 2.2 (2x for the overwrite reserve and another 20% for the internal data change rates inside a given lun, again change for your own environment). There's the WAFL RAID overhead; I've never gotten a real good feel for that but let's call it 5%- (anyone care to amend that?) Now also keep in mind that WAFL volumes don't really like to be more than 90% full because of the way they lay down data; I like to keep mine at 80% or lower. That's about all the overheads I can think of. Sound like a lot? Any vendor with snapshot technology is going to have the same issue of reserving loads of space for it, and they will use raid-5, which requires a net loss of one disk every 5-8 disks (and be slow under write load). Netapp goes 14 disks per parity (in either raid4 or dp). And everyone with a hardware raid has some raid overhead. Unless you're using raid 10, but then you're buying twice the disk, aren't you? Bottom line is that Netapp does require you to invest some of your disk in data and physical availability. It's well worth it, and it's comparable to every other enterprise system out there. If all you need is dumb disk with no overhead and no avanced features, there are plenty of RAID-0 solutions out there that will FC connect. Glenn (the other one) ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com on behalf of margesimpson(a)hushmail.com Sent: Wed 7/26/2006 9:38 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Storage space overheads! Hi all: Can anyone please give me total NetApp overheads including, file systems, aggr reserve, snap reserve, wafl overhead, parity disks (raid_dp), etc, etc. say, 10 x 100GB = 1000GB total. what usable space should i finally get after all those overheads. Can anyone give me proper figures/ math and proper break up of above figure? I heard NetApp solution has lot of disk overheads! Thank you in advance. Marge. Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485

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Problems with snapdrive after upgrading Ontap
by Willeke, Jochen 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

Hi Toasters, after we had a change in our infrastructure we used the downtime for updating our ontap on two filers which were still running with Ontap 6.5.4 (we updatet to 7.0.4P9). After the change we had a strange problem, that snapdrive on a few systems was no longer able see some disks (Luns on the filer we changed the Ontap on). In the Application Log we had strange error Messages saying: Failed to get Data Ontap version running on the filer "nafiler". or The IP Adress "192.168.1.45" specified as preffered, is dead. or Filer does not have a live IP address. Filer ID "192.168.1.45 + 10.192.168.45". Filer Host Name ". The cause of all these problems was that the service account which was used for snapdrive was exactly 20 letters long. As i learned with Snapdrive later than 3.1 it is a problem to have serviceaccountnames for SD with 20 or more letters. As we used this accountname for about 1 year i wonder if this is not true for Ontap 6.5.4 or if we only were lucky to had it work with this accountname. Anyway, i just wanted to inform you about this issue. Perhaps anybody runs into the same problem and wonders about the strange error message :-) Regards from a finaly happy Jochen

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Dear Friend,
by David Owen 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

Dear Friend, We are happy to let you know that, your email have been selected for one of our UK NATIONAL PROMOTION held on july 2006, so you are in position to clam the sum of (Two Million, Thirty-nine thousand, Five hundred and Six pounds sterling), contact back for information on how to proceed for your clam, i am looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible to enable me forward the full details inculding the application which you will fill with your full information and apply to our headquarter here in LONDON for your claim. Comply immediately Mr. David Owen. EURO-ASIAN Zonal Coordinator

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Delivery Notification: Delivery has timed out and failed
by Internet Mail Delivery 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

This report relates to a message you sent with the following header fields: Return-path: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> Received: from tcp-daemon.a34-mta01.direcway.com by a34-mta01.direcway.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.05 (built Mar 3 2005)) id <0J2Z00C9WYCUK6(a)a34-mta01.direcway.com>; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mathworks.com ([72.169.28.199]) by a34-mta01.direcway.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.05 (built Mar 3 2005)) with ESMTP id <0J1W007RX4NELS(a)a34-mta01.direcway.com> for heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu; Tue, 04 Jul 2006 13:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 13:59:16 -0400 From: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Returned mail: Data format error To: heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu Message-id: <0J1W007T14NJLS(a)a34-mta01.direcway.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2LPB6Y3RrBhvvDv0nYF6Tw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Your message is being returned; it has been enqueued and undeliverable for 21 days to the following recipients: Recipient address: heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu Reason: unable to deliver this message after 21 days Delivery attempt history for your mail: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:47:24 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:30:52 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:23:30 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:22:57 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:15:56 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Tue, 25 Jul 2006 03:24:54 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:24:55 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:29:00 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:17:17 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Mon, 24 Jul 2006 04:24:06 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:34:34 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:21:39 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:17:22 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:11:14 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Sun, 23 Jul 2006 04:25:51 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:34:02 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:18:28 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:12:41 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:17:36 -0400 (EDT) heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu: smtp;451 4.3.0 <heine016(a)maroon.tc.umn.edu>... Temporary error, try again later

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Hello!
by medicine_sansfr＠terra.es 26 Jul '06

26 Jul '06

Good Day, I am writing you in respect of the GLOBAL relief agency Medecins Sans Frontieres Charity Organization reimbursement donors campaign worldwide. The Organization is refunding back to donors their money out of the surplus 83 million euros they want to return to all donors who refused the Charity's offer to redirect their donations to lower profile cases like Sudan or the Democratic Republic of Congo. Please check the web link below for more information: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4535565.stm I am soliciting for your kind co-operation, to act as one of those that have donated funds to this charity organization and would want his/her fund return back to him/her so that part of this surplus 83 million euros will be reimbursed to you for us to share. Moreover, the amount to apply for should be (6.5million euro). This is the amount I have updated the information in my department and everything is set to be done legally without any fear or doubt. Upon your acceptance, reply me through my personal mailbox:(p_gilot@3xl.net) for details. And I will send you backing documents issued to those who donated to victims of tsunami through MSF to enable the Organization reimbursed you with (6.5million euro) part of these surplus funds they are returning. In regards to your agreement with me, I will inform you on your percentage for your assistance. Best Regards, Philippe Gilot Account Officer, Medicines Sans Frontieres Charity Home. Prueba el Nuevo Correo Terra; Seguro, rápido, fiable.

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from jennifer brent
by J. J. Brent 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

From: Mrs. Jennifer Brent. 17 Copse Hill, Wimbledon, SW20 0NE, London, United Kingdom. Good Day I am the above named person but now undergoing medical treatment in BarnesHospital, South Wople Way, SW14 8SU, London, England. I was married to Dr. Jim Brent who worked with British petroluem Coporation in london for over a decadebefore he died on 5th of July in the year 2000. We were married for fifteen years without a child. He died after a brief illness that lasted for two weeks.Before his death he made a vow to use his wealth for the down trodden and the less privileged in the society. Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home. When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of 10 Million Pounds with one Bank here in London.Presently, this money is still with the Bank. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next 150days due to cancer problem. Though what disturbs me most is my stroke. Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to an individual or better still a God fearing person who will utilize this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want an individual that will use this to fund and provide succor to poor and indigent persons, orphanages, and widows and for propagating peace in the universe. Do understand that i am unable to give these funds to a british charity orindividual because i am required by law to get the endorsement of relatives to my late husband who are very wicked and are not interested in helping the poor as my late husband will want and this i believe is his reason for not letting them have knowledge of these funds until his death,revealing it to only me his wife.I understand that blessed is the hand that giveth. I took this decision because I do not have any child that will inherit this money and my husbandrelatives are not inclined to helping poor persons and I do not want my husbands hard earned money to be misused or spent in the manner in which my late husband did not specify. I do not want a situation where this moneywill be used in an ungodly manner, hence the reason for taking this bolddecision. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going. I know that I am going to be in the bosom of the Almighty. I do not need any telephone communication in this regard because of my health. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the Bank here in London. I will also notify them of my decision to have you recieve these funds as my beneficiary. I want you to always pray for me. My happiness is that I lived a life worthy of emulation. Whosoever that wants to serve the Almighty must serve him with all his heart and mind and soul and also in truth. Please always be prayerful all through your life. Any delay in your reply will give me room in sourcing for an individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act according to my specification herein. Hoping to hear from you. Thank you and may the Almighty bless you. Yours sincerely, jennifer

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Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
by postmaster＠ugo.com 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

Your message To: emagyarorszag(a)ugo.com Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:06:46 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): emagyarorszag(a)ugo.com on Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:06:18 -0400 The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. <ugoexchange.ugonetworks.com #5.1.1>

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Undeliverable Mail
by MAILER-DAEMON＠mathworks.com 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

送信先システムが受け取れない状態になっているようです。規定回数の再送を試みましたが送信できませんでした。 Your mail attempted to be delivered on Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:29:42 +0900 Could not be delivered to <degaris(a)central.murdoch.edu.au> As all user retries are exhausted >>> Connecting to remote MTA <<< TCP/IP Error

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SnapMirror Transfer Size
by Glenn Walker 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

[Apparently, many don't know how to do this (including many in the 'GSC', reportedly) so I thought I'd share. This is useful for those (such as myself, at the moment) with WAN capacity issues] In order to account for the size of the next snapmirror transfer: 1.) Calculate the delta in 'df' output from source and destination (source used minus destination used) 2.) Calculate the sum of space used for all snapshots since (and including) the most recent snapmirror snapshot (the baseline). (this can be done most easily using Filerview, or if you really want to do some math use the 'own blocks' output via priv set diag; snap status) Add the two totals together and you've got your next snapmirror transfer size. Enjoy, Glenn

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A PAYMENT AGENT NEEDED URGENTLY REPLY NOW
by RICOH Company Ltd 24 Jul '06

24 Jul '06

Hello Dear, RICOH Company Ltd. based in United Kingdom with an export office in LONDON. Our company was established in the year 1984 to produce Colour Multifunctional. We produce Colour Printers and B & W Printers from nearby sources to support its production process. In order to increase the variety of its products, the company invested in a new facility and the most advanced technology to produce some new products from Raw Materials. The new line of value added products includes Colour Multifunctional, B & W Multifunctional, Colour Printers, B & W Printers, wide Format Copiers, Facsimiles, Digital Duplicators, Scanners Product Related Solutions.... Digital Cameras, DVD+R/RW, 35mm Carmeras, Multimedia Devices, as well as raw materials, etc as a branch of our numerous services, and other value added products. We export these products into the following countries Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Taiwan, France, Spain, Netherlands, Russia, Australia and New Zealand. Due to increase demands of our products in America and Canada, we decided to move our products often into the continent of America. By so doing, we are looking for someone who can serve as an in country representative who will be serving as a link between us and our customers within that province. It is upon this note that we are writing you this mail to seek your assistance in representing our company in your locality as our representative. Note that as a representative of our company; you will be entitled to 9% of any amount you receive from customers on behalf of the company as payments for outstanding debts or goods that they want to buy. As a representative of our company, your basic functions are as follows: 1. Maintenance of a sales office. The company will be responsible for the cost 2. Assume responsibility for all sales office 3. Lastly, contacting clients on behalf of the company who are ready to make payments or wanting to pay for products they purchase from the company. To facilitate the conclusion of this transaction if accepted, do send us in our London export office by mail promptly the following: 1. YOUR FULL NAMES AND ADDRESS. 2. YOUR DIRECT TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS. 3. A COPY OF YOUR INTERNATIONAL PASSPORT AND/OR DRIVERS LICENSE. 4. AGE 5. MARITAL STATUS If interested, please get back to us via E-mail or Telephone Thanks for your co-operation. Yours Sincerely, Mr. Morgan Kelvin Executive Director (LONDON OFFICE) E-mail: ricoh(a)london.com Tell: +447024074386 Ricoh Company Ltd. For More Informations, Please Visit our website: www.ricoh.co.uk

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Proposal for you!!!
by BENE MALEKE 24 Jul '06

24 Jul '06

Compliments of the day. My name is Mr.Bane Maleke, of 72 Buckingham Palace Road, London, UK. I am writing in respect of a proposal i think will be of great benefit to us.My long time client died after a brief illness on 02-26-2004.Due to my relationship with her,i am in possession of both personal and business documents relating to her estate.I also have the benefit as an insider since i equally maintained a steady secret romantic affair to know that my client had no kids since she was never married and her parents are late.I have waited for 2 years for any relative to show up but like i thought,no one has appeared.On this note,i decided to take advantage of this situation to better my life.My late client had deposited money to the tune of E1, 750,000.00(Great British Pounds)in a finance firm and another sum of E780,000.00(GBP)in a bank all here in London. Now,my proposal is this: i would want to position you as the next of kin to my late client in order to claim the funds in the bank and finance firm.I have all relevant documents to make a successful claim.For your efforts,your share would be 40% of net amount (after all inheritance taxes must have been deducted and paid to the authorities) that will come to you after the successful claim while i will take 60%.For the success of this transaction,i will need total co-operation and trust from you and you must equally take directives from me since am the one on ground that will see you through.We must work as a team to achieve our goal.If you are interested,contact me via email,phone or fax for me to give you the guidelines. Thank you. Yours Truly, Bane Maleke Tel No:+44-7031848899 Fax No:+44-8708316646 Email:benemlk@yahoo.com

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