Greetings, fellow Toaster-ites.
Hopefully this will distract you from the previous l1nux4411 "I'm 16 and
Linux r00lz" troll-fest ...
We've got a creaky old F740 running 6.3.1R1 that's performed yeoman duty
for us for many years.
All of a sudden it's having regular (at least once an hour) issues with
"No buffer space available" errors that cause temporary NFS mount hiccup
issues. I'm not sure how bad the situation is but it hasn't happened to
us before (we also had our first panic on the …
[View More]F740 the other day, too)
and more to the point, a reboot didn't fix the problem - it came right
back shortly thereafter. Which is what worries me - a reboot should've
fixed the issue, at least for awhile. I'm also troubled that there
doesn't seem to be any tunable options parameter to increase the
number of kernel buffers (or kernel buffer space in general) to deal
with this issue.
Has any other Toaster-ite run into this before?
Here's the configuration and the error messages below.
Thanks,
- Greg Earle
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===== SYSCONFIG-A =====
NetApp Release 6.3.1R1: Thu Feb 20 04:06:12 PST 2003
System ID: 00XXXXXXXX (toaster)
System Serial Number: XXXXX (toaster)
slot 0: System Board (NetApp System Board V N4)
Model Name: F740
Serial Number: NNNNNN
Firmware release: 2.8_a2
Processors: 1
Memory Size: 512 MB
Apr 9 17:12:59 notatoaster1 automount[27576]: >> mount: toaster:/vol/
vol1/local failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
Apr 9 17:12:59 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:12:59 PDT [nis_main:warning]:
Bound to preferred NIS server NNN.NN.NN.69_n
Apr 9 17:12:59 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:12:59 PDT [nis_poll:error]:
Cannot send NIS binding request to NNN.NN.NN.70 : No buffer space
available
Apr 9 17:12:59 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:12:59 PDT [nis_poll:error]:
Cannot send NIS binding request to NNN.NN.NN.69 : No buffer space
available
Apr 9 17:12:59 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:12:59 PDT
[mountd_main:warning]: yp_match: clnt_call: RPC: Unable to send_
errno = No buffer space available
Apr 9 17:12:59 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:12:59 PDT [nis_main:warning]:
Preferred NIS Server NNN.NN.NN.69 not responding_n
Apr 9 17:12:59 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:12:59 PDT [nis_main:info]: NIS
server(s) not available
Apr 9 17:12:59 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:12:59 PDT [nis_poll:info]: NIS
server(s) not available
Apr 9 17:12:59 notatoaster automount[27576]: mount(nfs): nfs: mount
failure toaster:/vol/vol1/local on /usr/local
Apr 9 17:12:59 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:12:59 PDT [nis_poll:warning]:
Bound to preferred NIS server NNN.NN.NN.70_n
Apr 9 17:14:19 notatoaster2 automount[15953]: >> mount: mount to NFS
server 'toaster' failed: timed out (retrying).
Apr 9 17:15:38 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:15:38 PDT
[mountd_main:warning]: yp_match: clnt_call: RPC: Unable to send_
errno = No buffer space available
Apr 9 17:15:38 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:15:38 PDT [nis_main:warning]:
Preferred NIS Server NNN.NN.NN.70 not responding_n
Apr 9 17:15:38 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:15:38 PDT [nis_main:warning]:
Bound to preferred NIS server NNN.NN.NN.69_n
Apr 9 17:15:38 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:15:38 PDT [nis_poll:error]:
Cannot send NIS binding request to NNN.NN.NN.70 : No buffer space
available
Apr 9 17:15:38 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:15:38 PDT [nis_poll:error]:
Cannot send NIS binding request to NNN.NN.NN.69 : No buffer space
available
Apr 9 17:15:38 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:15:38 PDT [nis_main:warning]:
Preferred NIS Server NNN.NN.NN.69 not responding_n
Apr 9 17:15:38 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:15:38 PDT [nis_main:info]: NIS
server(s) not available
Apr 9 17:15:38 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:15:38 PDT [nis_poll:info]: NIS
server(s) not available
Apr 9 17:15:40 toaster Mon Apr 9 17:15:40 PDT [nis_poll:warning]:
Bound to preferred NIS server NNN.NN.NN.70_n
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tmac wrote:
> Have you thought about upgrading the current release?
> like 6.5.7something?
I can't even find where the latest release is. I think our support
contract may have expired (our F740 is obviously EOL'ed and frankly,
we had expected to be completely moved off of it and onto our SAN
by now, but the wheels of industry grind slowly around here), so I
don't know what the status is of that. We keep getting the NetApp
Field Alerts, but I don't know if that indicates we still have …
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valid service contract or not. (And the guy who used to handle our
NOW account left and moved down to Costa Rica)
Other than knowing that ONTAP 7.x doesn't run on an F740, what's
the latest version that does? (Assuming I can find out whether
we're still entitled/able to get ahold of it)
- Greg
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Hello,
we received a couple netapp filers and have some questions about
upgrading them.
1) what version of linux will run on these filers (preferably
gentoo) and what is the upgrade procedure?
2) setting up volumes does not allow me to format them with EXT3 or
ReiserFS currently so i will need to know how that is done for
increased filesystem performance and reliability
3) what brand/type of off the shelf disks will work with these
systems?
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to use anything but 100% open source in the enterprise is a moral
crime. no company should pay money for closed source evil
platforms that do not strive to increase the common good. plus
linux outperforms just about anything on the market when you do it
right.
why would we want to support microsoft or companies that engage in
the killing of third world people and put profits in front of
mankind?
we dont want a linux server just a nice appliance that we can put
linux on and use …
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serve up our open source content. i strongly doubt WAFFLE is as
robust or fast as similar linux raid filesystems.
perhaps if netapp switched to linux they could also help the
environment and help companies too but i dont know much about if
they care about the people
>On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:04:30 -0700 Blake Golliher
><thelastman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>Installing linux on an awesome box like a 940 is pretty insane
>>dude.
>>As a server, you might find it underpowered. It's got 6g of
>>memory,
>>and 1.6 P4 Zeon processor (two I think). While you can get a
>>modern
>>Dell 1950 with a dual core Intel proc and 8g of ram for around
>6k.
>>Maybe you got a smokin' deal on the 940? Maybe you have no
>>support,
>>or any licenses on this box? I'm not sure you are going to get
>>what
>>you want out of this. A 940 is an awesome OnTap platform, for
>NFS
>>block storage. As a platform for Linux or BSD, it might not be
>>the
>>best of choices.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>
>>-Blake
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Installing linux on an awesome box like a 940 is pretty insane dude.
As a server, you might find it underpowered. It's got 6g of memory,
and 1.6 P4 Zeon processor (two I think). While you can get a modern
Dell 1950 with a dual core Intel proc and 8g of ram for around 6k.
Maybe you got a smokin' deal on the 940? Maybe you have no support,
or any licenses on this box? I'm not sure you are going to get what
you want out of this. A 940 is an awesome OnTap platform, for NFS
block storage. As a …
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best of choices.
Good luck,
-Blake
On 4/9/07, linux4ever(a)hushmail.com <linux4ever(a)hushmail.com> wrote:
> they say 940. we really need to know how to get open source linux
> on them to make them useable and expandable for our needs. running
> anything that is closed source is a completely reprehensible
> situation and not something a moral netizen would wish to do.
>
> we tried redhat and debian but so far have not been able to netboot
> or load linux yet. any help to get a valid open source solution
> with linux would be great.
>
> yours in tux
>
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:21:48 -0700 Blake Golliher
> <thelastman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >What kind of filers are these? Some old 540's or 760's? What's
> >the
> >model type?
> >
> >On 4/9/07, linux4ever(a)hushmail.com <linux4ever(a)hushmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> we received a couple netapp filers and have some questions about
> >> upgrading them.
> >>
> >> 1) what version of linux will run on these filers (preferably
> >> gentoo) and what is the upgrade procedure?
> >>
> >> 2) setting up volumes does not allow me to format them with EXT3
> >or
> >> ReiserFS currently so i will need to know how that is done for
> >> increased filesystem performance and reliability
> >>
> >> 3) what brand/type of off the shelf disks will work with these
> >> systems?
> >>
> >>
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Hi all, I wanted to ask the collective wisdom out there
about how many disks to put in an aggregate.
I have an F825 with 2 DS14 shelves, currently set up as 1
aggregate (so 28 disks in the aggregate), double parity, and
2 spares.
I will be adding another DS14 shelf, identical disks as the
other 2 shelves. My preference is to just extend the existing
aggregate to 42 disks, and set up another volume for the
new data that will be going on there - but I believe NetApp
says that 28 disks is the …
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So, question is - anyone out there using more than 28 (like 42 !)
disks in an aggregate ? Is it possible ? recommended ? I
thought that the more disks the better in an aggregate for
performance reasons, but I thought I'd see what you all say !
Thanks,
John
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So I figured I'd give the group a shot at this.
I've got a client that wants to have 2 linux-based ftp/http servers, one
in the LAN and one in the DMZ, share some data. NFS would be perfect.
However-
The security group will not allow server in the DMZ to access the
LAN-based Netapp through the firewall for its NFS resource. Also, I
cannot put an interface from the Netapp into the DMZ.
They WILL allow it if it's encrypted.
I saw WebNFS, does Netapp support some sort of NFS over HTTPS? …
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Alternatively, the client said that what would be allowed is if the two
servers could share the same LUN- FC only, no iSCSI. Has anyone out
there tried that before, what needs to be done on the linux side to make
that happen?
Thanks
Glenn (the other one)
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For cifs my favorite when I looked at it was filecensus
Not cheap though
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From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]
On Behalf Of jbrigman(a)nc.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2007 7:34 AM
To: toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Tools for managing filer content
Hey Toasterz;
Are there any free software tools which might run on a filer's server
host (whether Linux or Windoze) for managing content on a filer? I'm
looking for something I …
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job. I'm envisioning something that will let me configure a "control
file" list of names of files to look for on the filer, then the program
would walk the shares and exports and tell me how much space is being
taken up on the filer by each file type. Even just a perl script would
be great.
I do have a windows app called Treesize Pro (which is not free) I use to
get a snapshot of occupancy of various CIFS shares. It's useful and is
the best thing I've got at the moment. But I'd like to have something I
could script to send out a report summary providing both the overall
occupancy of a volume plus a breakdown of what's in the volume.
JKB
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> You need something redhats GFS
> Which I believe requires the clients to be able to communicate in some
> form over tcp to allow "fencing" to work...software that controls multiple
> client access.
Most clustered FS's do require SNMP access to the fabric in order to
conduct fencing.
Is SNMP more secure than NFS?
Regards,
Max
>
> The may be other too like STORnext from ADIC.
>
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> …
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> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:55:22
> To:<toasters(a)mathworks.com>
> Subject: Weird NFS need
>
> So I figured I'd give the group a shot at this.
>
> I've got a client that wants to have 2 linux-based ftp/http servers, one
> in the LAN and one in the DMZ, share some data. NFS would be perfect.
>
> However-
>
> The security group will not allow server in the DMZ to access the
> LAN-based Netapp through the firewall for its NFS resource. Also, I
> cannot put an interface from the Netapp into the DMZ.
>
> They WILL allow it if it's encrypted.
>
> I saw WebNFS, does Netapp support some sort of NFS over HTTPS? or SSH?
>
>
> Alternatively, the client said that what would be allowed is if the two
> servers could share the same LUN- FC only, no iSCSI. Has anyone out
> there tried that before, what needs to be done on the linux side to make
> that happen?
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn (the other one)
>
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> So I figured I'd give the group a shot at this.
>
> I've got a client that wants to have 2 linux-based ftp/http servers, one
> in the LAN and one in the DMZ, share some data. NFS would be perfect.
>
> However-
>
> The security group will not allow server in the DMZ to access the
> LAN-based Netapp through the firewall for its NFS resource. Also, I
> cannot put an interface from the Netapp into the DMZ.
>
> They WILL allow it if it's encrypted.
>
> …
[View More]I saw WebNFS, does Netapp support some sort of NFS over HTTPS? or SSH?
ONTAP supports IPSEC. That should work, but it will increase the CPU load
on the filer. I don't think it's an issue for HTTP/FTP setups, but it
might cause problems with heavy PPS environments.
What I don't understand is if the data their sending is basically
unencrypted (HTTP and FTP?!??!) why does the NFS component need to be
super secure from "teh hax0rz."?
Regards,
Max
>
>
> Alternatively, the client said that what would be allowed is if the two
> servers could share the same LUN- FC only, no iSCSI. Has anyone out
> there tried that before, what needs to be done on the linux side to make
> that happen?
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn (the other one)
>
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