At 21:11, on Mar 15, 2006, Cornelius Bartke wrote:
> Brian Parent 15.03.2006 18:47:
> > Since sysstat has the -m option which allows viewing AVG as
> > well as individual CPU performance, it seems reasonable that
> > the same data should be made available via SNMP.
>
> We had an old-and-closed case concerning CPU data in snmpd and opened
> a follow-up case today.
>
> Netapp's response so far:
> - There have been a lot of discussions on how to implement …
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> - Engineering is planning to implement a new algorithm in ONTAP 7.2
> - no backport to earlier versions is planned (due to complexity/amount
> of code)
>
> This is BURT 159087 - "Improve sysstat CPU% metric's ability to
> indicate true CPU saturation".
>
> -Cornelius
And it seems that this is indeed included in 7.2RC and 7.2RC2:
http://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/bol?Type=Detail&Display=159087
So - in a year or two when I upgrade from 7.0.x to 7.2.x, I guess that
I'll get good stats again. :-/
Davin.
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Andrew is right on the money. There are no mirroring operations
supported between flex and trad vols (beyond QSM, which will not help
with snapshots).
Documentation from NetApp on the subject:
http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel701r1_gf/html/ontap/mg
mtsag/6vol12.htm#1390988
I wish there were a better way - perhaps one day (don't hold your
breath, though).
Glenn
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From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@…
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On Behalf Of George, Andrew
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:53 PM
To: Steven Mandrake; toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: RE: Upgrade 270 and keep snapshots for snapmirror
Hi
I think the choices are
use trad vols and keep snapshots
use flex vols and loose snapshots
As you can't mirror from a flex vol to a trad vol, what we wound up
doing was ndmpcopying the data, mirroring the tradvol (and snapshots)
nightly, and then we cut over to the new box, initializing a second
mirror - then when our last snapshot from the trad vol was expired, we
destroyed the traditional mirror volume.
Sorry, I was facing the same thing and couldn't come up with a better
way of doing it than what I outlined
________________________________
From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]
On Behalf Of Steven Mandrake
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 7:21 AM
To: toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Upgrade 270 and keep snapshots for snapmirror
Hello Everyone,
I am trying to upgrade from 6.5 to 7.0.4 and I currently have trad vols.
I also have another filer that is hosting my snapmirrors of many trad
vols.
My goal is to upgrade both filers to 7.0.4 to take advantage of
flexvols.
I want to preserve my snapshots and have those moved as well. So
ndmpcopy is out for me.
volcopy preserves my snapshots, but I can't seem to get it to work
between trad vols and flex vols.
Is there a way I can do the following:
1. upgrade to 7G source and destination
2. Migrate from trad vol to flex while preserving my snapshots
3. update my snapmirror w/o re-initalizing the mirror.
I don't have Acopia or Neopath either. Are there tools w/in NetAPP that
can help me?
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The scenario Flip put forword does work and it being deployed by NetApp
Professional Services for those customers who want to buy this as a
service.
You can use QSM (or ndmpcopy for that matter) to transfer snapshots one
qtree
at a time, then take a local snapshot, then go to the next snapshot.
This method isn't for everyone and will not be practical in all
environments,
but it's a way to do it. The only other way I've seen some sites handle
it is
to just migrate the active filesystem to a …
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the old trad
vol(s) around until the snapshots would have expired anyway, then
re-deploy them.
Those are really the only choices I'm aware of for snapshot retention.
-- Adam Fox
adamfox(a)netapp.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Filip Sneppe [mailto:filip.sneppe@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:16 AM
To: David Dalby
Cc: George, Andrew; Steven Mandrake; toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Re: Upgrade 270 and keep snapshots for snapmirror
Hi,
On 5/16/06, David Dalby <Ddalby(a)asi.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> You can qtree SnapMirror between trad & flex vols if you are using
> qtrees and you do not want to use ndmpcopy.
>
> However, does not overcome your issues with snapshot retention .....
>
This is my first post to this list ...
If your data is inside qtrees on the tradvol, there is a clean way to
migrate everything from tradvol to flexvol. Here's the basic idea:
- stop all scheduled snapshotting on source & dest
- do a QSM initialize from your tradvol qtree(s) to your qtrees on the
newly
created flexvol, but - and this is important - use the oldest snapshot
on the
source as the baseline snapshot for the "snapmirror initialize"
operation(s)
- afterthe transfer(s) has/have finished, take a snapshot on the
destination
(same name as on the source)
- next, do a QSM update operation for the relations from your tradvol to
your
flexvol, but use the "next" snapshot as a baseline for that snapshot
- after those transfers have finished, take a snapshot on the
destination again.
In the end, you will have all your snapshots on the destination. The
dates will be all messed up, as those snapshots will all be taken on the
same day, even if they cover months of snapshot differences in data.
Now, if your tradvol data is not in qtrees, there is always a
possibility to do vol-to-qtree snapmirror, by using "-" as the source
qtree. (Read up on it, as this won't transfer data that isn't already in
a real qtree - that data will need to be transferred separately). You
will end up with a different path to your data though. There's no way
around that.
Also, I don't know how this migration procedure will work with your
existing snapmirror relations. Don't know if you'll be able to just move
them over to flexvol. Might work, but you need to test it out...
Regards,
Filip
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You can qtree SnapMirror between trad & flex vols if you are using
qtrees and you do not want to use ndmpcopy.
However, does not overcome your issues with snapshot retention .....
________________________________
From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]
On Behalf Of George, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 7:53 AM
To: Steven Mandrake; toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: RE: Upgrade 270 and keep snapshots for snapmirror
Hi
I think the choices are
use …
[View More]trad vols and keep snapshots
use flex vols and loose snapshots
As you can't mirror from a flex vol to a trad vol, what we wound up
doing was ndmpcopying the data, mirroring the tradvol (and snapshots)
nightly, and then we cut over to the new box, initializing a second
mirror - then when our last snapshot from the trad vol was expired, we
destroyed the traditional mirror volume.
Sorry, I was facing the same thing and couldn't come up with a better
way of doing it than what I outlined
________________________________
From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]
On Behalf Of Steven Mandrake
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 7:21 AM
To: toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Upgrade 270 and keep snapshots for snapmirror
Hello Everyone,
I am trying to upgrade from 6.5 to 7.0.4 and I currently have trad vols.
I also have another filer that is hosting my snapmirrors of many trad
vols.
My goal is to upgrade both filers to 7.0.4 to take advantage of
flexvols.
I want to preserve my snapshots and have those moved as well. So
ndmpcopy is out for me.
volcopy preserves my snapshots, but I can't seem to get it to work
between trad vols and flex vols.
Is there a way I can do the following:
1. upgrade to 7G source and destination
2. Migrate from trad vol to flex while preserving my snapshots
3. update my snapmirror w/o re-initalizing the mirror.
I don't have Acopia or Neopath either. Are there tools w/in NetAPP that
can help me?
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Hi
I think the choices are
use trad vols and keep snapshots
use flex vols and loose snapshots
As you can't mirror from a flex vol to a trad vol, what we wound up
doing was ndmpcopying the data, mirroring the tradvol (and snapshots)
nightly, and then we cut over to the new box, initializing a second
mirror - then when our last snapshot from the trad vol was expired, we
destroyed the traditional mirror volume.
Sorry, I was facing the same thing and couldn't come up with a better
way of doing …
[View More]it than what I outlined
_____
From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]
On Behalf Of Steven Mandrake
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 7:21 AM
To: toasters(a)mathworks.com
Subject: Upgrade 270 and keep snapshots for snapmirror
Hello Everyone,
I am trying to upgrade from 6.5 to 7.0.4 and I currently have trad vols.
I also have another filer that is hosting my snapmirrors of many trad
vols.
My goal is to upgrade both filers to 7.0.4 to take advantage of
flexvols.
I want to preserve my snapshots and have those moved as well. So
ndmpcopy is out for me.
volcopy preserves my snapshots, but I can't seem to get it to work
between trad vols and flex vols.
Is there a way I can do the following:
1. upgrade to 7G source and destination
2. Migrate from trad vol to flex while preserving my snapshots
3. update my snapmirror w/o re-initalizing the mirror.
I don't have Acopia or Neopath either. Are there tools w/in NetAPP that
can help me?
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Hello Everyone,
I am trying to upgrade from 6.5 to 7.0.4 and I currently have trad vols. I
also have another filer that is hosting my snapmirrors of many trad vols.
My goal is to upgrade both filers to 7.0.4 to take advantage of flexvols.
I want to preserve my snapshots and have those moved as well. So ndmpcopy is
out for me.
volcopy preserves my snapshots, but I can't seem to get it to work between
trad vols and flex vols.
Is there a way I can do the following:
1. upgrade to 7G source and …
[View More]destination
2. Migrate from trad vol to flex while preserving my snapshots
3. update my snapmirror w/o re-initalizing the mirror.
I don't have Acopia or Neopath either. Are there tools w/in NetAPP that can
help me?
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From the website I can tell the head draws at 88 vac to 246vac/19A to 6.4A.
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