toasters April 2006

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RE: SME on IBM hardware
by Benn, Paul 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Hi Grey, > Thanks for the info. No problem. Have any more (SME/SD) questions? We are present and listening. > So I should be able to use NetApp Branded SD/SME with the IBM ontap and have a happy life then? Yes. Regards, Paul Benn Network Appliance ________________________________ From: Grey Friday [mailto:grey.friday@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:05 PM To: Benn, Paul Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: SME on IBM hardware Thanks for the info. So I should be able to use NetApp Branded SD/SME with the IBM ontap and have a happy life then? Mostly I was just taking a stab at SD. I went from 4.0 to 4.1 and it required me to install 2 hot fixes (that I'm sure were needed) which are not publicly available. I was on hold with MS when I wrote it and a bit annoyed. With all that being said SD and SME are great products and make my admin tasks a bit easier when joe user needs his email restored. Thanks for all the replies guys.. On 4/13/06, Benn, Paul <paul.benn(a)netapp.com> wrote: Hi Grey & Toasters, What you should be aware of here is that IBM branded SnapDrive or SnapManager must be upgraded with the same brand of software. For example, if you want to install IBM branded SME, you must first uninstall NetApp branded SME from the system. Furthermore, different brands of the same software cannot coexist on the same Windows host. For example, NetApp SME can not coexist with IBM SME. The same applies to SnapDrive. That said, NetApp branded SME will work with IBM branded SnapDrive and vice versa. NetApp branded SnapDrive will work with IBM branded ONTAP and vice versa. > Is it just me or should netapp include hot fixes that it requires to install for windows.... No, it is not just you. We think so too and actually do make some of the required hotfixes available. Keep in mind that permission to redistribute these hotfixes is at Microsoft's discretion and obtaining the permission is not necessarily an easy task. All of the hotfixes that we do have the permission to redistribute can be downloaded from the SnapDrive download page on the NOW site. To the best of my knowledge, the hotfixes that we have permission to redistribute are also included on the SnapDrive CD. Kind Regards, Paul Benn SnapManager Development Team Network Appliance ________________________________ From: Grey Friday [mailto:grey.friday@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:37 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: SME on IBM hardware Any one using SD/SME on IBM hardware? We got a pretty good quote on a 3050 IBM Branded. Is there any weired issues if I want to move it from my 980 to this solution? Will be SCSI disks and pretty much the same setup as the 980 except this will host only exchange and not the current setup with cifs/nfs/exchange

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RE: SME on IBM hardware
by Benn, Paul 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Hi Grey & Toasters, What you should be aware of here is that IBM branded SnapDrive or SnapManager must be upgraded with the same brand of software. For example, if you want to install IBM branded SME, you must first uninstall NetApp branded SME from the system. Furthermore, different brands of the same software cannot coexist on the same Windows host. For example, NetApp SME can not coexist with IBM SME. The same applies to SnapDrive. That said, NetApp branded SME will work with IBM branded SnapDrive and vice versa. NetApp branded SnapDrive will work with IBM branded ONTAP and vice versa. > Is it just me or should netapp include hot fixes that it requires to install for windows.... No, it is not just you. We think so too and actually do make some of the required hotfixes available. Keep in mind that permission to redistribute these hotfixes is at Microsoft's discretion and obtaining the permission is not necessarily an easy task. All of the hotfixes that we do have the permission to redistribute can be downloaded from the SnapDrive download page on the NOW site. To the best of my knowledge, the hotfixes that we have permission to redistribute are also included on the SnapDrive CD. Kind Regards, Paul Benn SnapManager Development Team Network Appliance ________________________________ From: Grey Friday [mailto:grey.friday@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:37 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: SME on IBM hardware Any one using SD/SME on IBM hardware? We got a pretty good quote on a 3050 IBM Branded. Is there any weired issues if I want to move it from my 980 to this solution? Will be SCSI disks and pretty much the same setup as the 980 except this will host only exchange and not the current setup with cifs/nfs/exchange

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RE: OCFS support
by Carter K. George 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

You could run OCFS using NetApps as a block storage device (iSCSI or Fibre Channel), not NFS. However, I recommend against doing this. If you have a NetApps already, you are much better off just running Oracle over NFS, which is certified and supported by Oracle on NetApps through the Oracle Storage Certification Program. There are actually two versions of OCFS, ocfs and ocfs2, and they are both weak. The first one was good *only* for oracle data files - you could not do regular file system operations in it reliably. The second one, an open source rewrite now maintained by SuSE Linux, is *only* good for standard files - it is not validated or approved by Oracle for use storing Oracle data files. You can use it for shared oracle home (where the Oracle binaries live, etc), but you can use NFS for that too. If you are looking for a Linux cluster file system, there are multiple other better options out there than OCFS. A detailed discussion of Linux CFS options is out of scope for this thread - drop me a line if you want the rundown - but for the NetApps customer, Oracle over NFS is a better approach all around. It's more reliable, you can use it for both files and databases, it's certified, and it is in production in lots of places. Carter ________________________________ From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Steven Mandrake Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:42 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: OCFS support Hi Guys, Does NetAPP support OCFS? Is this done at the NFS level or at the SAN level? I can't find any docs on NetAPP showing they support this. Thanks, Steven

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RE: SME on IBM hardware
by Ledbetter, Charles 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Grey, You should be fine. Depending on how your 980 is configured, your performance may change. A 980 can be pretty powerful when it's loaded out. -Charles -----Original Message----- From: Grey Friday [mailto:grey.friday@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:13 PM To: Ledbetter, Charles Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: SME on IBM hardware leaning towards iSCSI On 4/13/06, Ledbetter, Charles <Charles.Ledbetter(a)netapp.com> wrote: Grey, Will it be a FCP or iSCSI setup on the new IBM hardware? -Charles -----Original Message----- From: Grey Friday [mailto:grey.friday@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:37 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: SME on IBM hardware Any one using SD/SME on IBM hardware? We got a pretty good quote on a 3050 IBM Branded. Is there any weired issues if I want to move it from my 980 to this solution? Will be SCSI disks and pretty much the same setup as the 980 except this will host only exchange and not the current setup with cifs/nfs/exchange

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Re: SME on IBM hardware
by Grey Friday 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

leaning towards iSCSI On 4/13/06, Ledbetter, Charles <Charles.Ledbetter(a)netapp.com> wrote: > > Grey, > > Will it be a FCP or iSCSI setup on the new IBM hardware? > > -Charles > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Grey Friday [mailto:grey.friday@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:37 PM > *To:* toasters(a)mathworks.com > *Subject:* SME on IBM hardware > > Any one using SD/SME on IBM hardware? We got a pretty good quote on a 3050 > IBM Branded. Is there any weired issues if I want to move it from my 980 to > this solution? > > Will be SCSI disks and pretty much the same setup as the 980 except this > will host only exchange and not the current setup with cifs/nfs/exchange > >

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Snap Drive
by Grey Friday 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Is it just me or should netapp include hot fixes that it requires to install for windows.... I just grabbed 4.1 and have to call MS to to get the new hot fix patches... I suppose I could log into our premiere site and download them as well as call, but what If I didn't have a premiere agreement. Second to that they are requiring me to clearly install patches that have not been regression tested as of yet with MS........ opps. So every time someone calls to get these patches MS tells them not to install them on production boxes awesome....

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SME on IBM hardware
by Grey Friday 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Any one using SD/SME on IBM hardware? We got a pretty good quote on a 3050 IBM Branded. Is there any weired issues if I want to move it from my 980 to this solution? Will be SCSI disks and pretty much the same setup as the 980 except this will host only exchange and not the current setup with cifs/nfs/exchange

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by DOUDOU Eunice 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

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RE: Snap Drive
by Sorgiovanni, Paul (RTSBS) 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Hi Greg They are not available on premier support either. I have already raised with with microsoft that these patches are prereqs for snapdrive4.1 and they should be made available to the general public. I have these patches if you need these This email (including all attachments) is the sole property of Rio Tinto Limited and may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use or forward the information contained in it. This message may not be reproduced or otherwise republished without the written consent of the sender. If you have received this message in error, please delete the e-mail and notify the sender. From: owner-toasters(a)mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com]On Behalf Of Grey Friday Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:50 PM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Snap Drive Is it just me or should netapp include hot fixes that it requires to install for windows.... I just grabbed 4.1 and have to call MS to to get the new hot fix patches... I suppose I could log into our premiere site and download them as well as call, but what If I didn't have a premiere agreement. Second to that they are requiring me to clearly install patches that have not been regression tested as of yet with MS........ opps. So every time someone calls to get these patches MS tells them not to install them on production boxes awesome....

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toasters April 2006