toasters January 2002

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ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ?
by Frank Bonnet 16 Jan '02

16 Jan '02

Hi After success in accessing UNIX homedir from windows ( thanks to all that respond ) I am facing a problem with ascii file conversion An ascii file created under UNIX cannot be viewded correctly under windows ( CR LF conversion ) is there an option with Ontap to convert ascii files when opening them under windows and vice-versa ? Thanks a lot. -- Frank Bonnet

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RE: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ?
by Mike Carroll 16 Jan '02

16 Jan '02

Here is a little alias I created for my korn shell... it uses perl.. alias rmm='perl -i -pe '\''s/\r//'\''' Then you type "rmm <filename>" and it strips off all the damn ^M's.... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Sphar [mailto:mike.sphar@peregrine.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:55 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: RE: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ? If Windows users just need to read (not write) UNIX files sometimes, Wordpad will do that just fine. -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Peregrine Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Losen [mailto:scl@sasha.acc.virginia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:28 AM To: Frank Bonnet Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ? > Hi > > After success in accessing UNIX homedir from windows > ( thanks to all that respond ) I am facing a problem > with ascii file conversion > > An ascii file created under UNIX cannot be viewded > correctly under windows ( CR LF conversion ) is there an > option with Ontap to convert ascii files when opening > them under windows and vice-versa ? > > Thanks a lot. The filer does not do any data conversion that I am aware of. In our experience we have found that folks who use both Windows and Unix do not often manipulate the same file on both systems. Usually Windows files are only manipulated from Windows and Unix files only from Unix. However, we do recommend installing NoteTab Light on Windows and using that instead of standard Windows NotePad. NoteTab accepts all three text file line terminators: LF (unix) CRLF (dos) CR (Apple) and will generate output using any of these. So you can keep a file in its original format or convert it. http://www.notetab.com On the Unix side, Solaris has the "flip" command that converts a text file from LF to CRLF and vice versa. This utility may be available on other flavors of Unix, too. If you don't have flip, here is a trivial awk command to convert unix to dos by adding CR to each line: awk '{print $0 "\r"}' unixfile > dosfile Here is a trivial sed command to convert dos to unix by stripping the CR at the end of the line. sed 's/.$//' dosfile > unixfile On Linux, vi (vim) detects the line terminator style and preserves it. And you can also force dos line terminators with the vi command :set fileformat=dos or :set ff=dos To force unix use :set fileformat=unix or :set ff=unix Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support ----------------------------------------- (on rchss001) This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Chiaro Networks, Ltd., and may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s), or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete all copies from your system. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------

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RE: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ?
by Mike Sphar 16 Jan '02

16 Jan '02

If Windows users just need to read (not write) UNIX files sometimes, Wordpad will do that just fine. -- Mike Sphar - Sr Systems Administrator - Engineering Support Peregrine Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Losen [mailto:scl@sasha.acc.virginia.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:28 AM To: Frank Bonnet Cc: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: Re: ascii files convertion UNIX <--> windows ? > Hi > > After success in accessing UNIX homedir from windows > ( thanks to all that respond ) I am facing a problem > with ascii file conversion > > An ascii file created under UNIX cannot be viewded > correctly under windows ( CR LF conversion ) is there an > option with Ontap to convert ascii files when opening > them under windows and vice-versa ? > > Thanks a lot. The filer does not do any data conversion that I am aware of. In our experience we have found that folks who use both Windows and Unix do not often manipulate the same file on both systems. Usually Windows files are only manipulated from Windows and Unix files only from Unix. However, we do recommend installing NoteTab Light on Windows and using that instead of standard Windows NotePad. NoteTab accepts all three text file line terminators: LF (unix) CRLF (dos) CR (Apple) and will generate output using any of these. So you can keep a file in its original format or convert it. http://www.notetab.com On the Unix side, Solaris has the "flip" command that converts a text file from LF to CRLF and vice versa. This utility may be available on other flavors of Unix, too. If you don't have flip, here is a trivial awk command to convert unix to dos by adding CR to each line: awk '{print $0 "\r"}' unixfile > dosfile Here is a trivial sed command to convert dos to unix by stripping the CR at the end of the line. sed 's/.$//' dosfile > unixfile On Linux, vi (vim) detects the line terminator style and preserves it. And you can also force dos line terminators with the vi command :set fileformat=dos or :set ff=dos To force unix use :set fileformat=unix or :set ff=unix Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 University of Virginia ITC Unix Support

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Shortcuts to CIFS home directories ?
by Frank Bonnet 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

Hi My auth problem is solved ;-) thanks to Adam Fox <Adam.Fox(a)netapp.com> Now I have another one ... Is it possible to create a mapping file to map home directories and allow user shortcuts to point to the right home directory as it is possible under UNIX to do with NIS maps I explain I would like windows user could maps drive as follows \\toaster\loginname the mapping file (on the toaster) would looks like \user\somedir\anotherdir\anotherdir\loginname \loginame ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ real home directory shortcut The best way would be to use directly NIS automount map ... Another question , does OnTap will support LDAP auth ? ( NOT active directory ) if yes , when ? Thanks a lot -- Frank Bonnet

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RE: NOW enhancement: filer names
by La Londe, Renee 15 Jan '02

15 Jan '02

Hi Todd, As usual thanks for the great suggestion! We have already implemented this in the 'Manage Installed Products' form http://now.netapp.com/installedproducts and will be doing so in all of the other tools over the next 2 months. Additionally, we will be adding in the system id as another search option. Thanks again for your feedback and we will keep you informed as we update the tools. Best Regards, Renee Renee La Londe Director eService Network Appliance, INC Get Answers on NOW (Netapp on the Web)! http://now.netapp.com -----Original Message----- From: Todd C. Merrill [mailto:tmerrill@mathworks.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:35 AM To: toasters(a)mathworks.com Subject: NOW enhancement: filer names Importance: Low Got a suggestion for an enhancement to NOW....wherever a serial number is used (cases/RMA/profiles/prococol licenses, etc.). also show the machine name. After about 5 or 6 filers, I can't keep track of this information anymore. So, I keep a little table of my own. This is kinda silly when there is a database that keeps track of things like this already... This can easily be updated by us end users, or, since autosupport mails are sent each week, that process can do it (for those filers that actually show a serial number in the output of `sysconfig` instead of a systemID). Or, autosupport can use the contents of /etc/serial if it exists to do this on our behalf. Thanks for listening. Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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cifs.home_dir option and symlinks
by neil lehrer 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

hi, because of our home dir structure,users/a/auser, i am trying to use the home.dir option with symlinks as it has been discussed previously in toasters. ontap 6.1.1r2, nfs and cifs. i do: cifs.home_dir /vol/vol0/homelinks in homelinks i execute ln -s /vol/vol0/userstest/a/auser auser to create the symbolic link. the problem is that it works inconsistently. i get: D:\>net use * \\file1\kusr1 System error 67 has occurred. The network name cannot be found. frequently! anybody have any ideas. this is driving me nuts. thanks. -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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NOW enhancement: filer names
by Todd C. Merrill 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

Got a suggestion for an enhancement to NOW....wherever a serial number is used (cases/RMA/profiles/prococol licenses, etc.). also show the machine name. After about 5 or 6 filers, I can't keep track of this information anymore. So, I keep a little table of my own. This is kinda silly when there is a database that keeps track of things like this already... This can easily be updated by us end users, or, since autosupport mails are sent each week, that process can do it (for those filers that actually show a serial number in the output of `sysconfig` instead of a systemID). Or, autosupport can use the contents of /etc/serial if it exists to do this on our behalf. Thanks for listening. Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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Re: nt subst cmd
by neil lehrer 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

thanks. in this context is there a diff between: ln -s /vol/vol0/smalltest/k/kusr1 kusr1 and ln -s vol/vol0/smalltest/k/kusr1 kusr1 ? Steve Losen wrote: > > > i needed to use relative paths to get this to work. > > > > i have cifs.home_dir pointed to /vol/vol0/homelinks > > > > when i mounted the filer from a sun box > > > > i went into /filer/homelinks > > > > and then i did > > ln -s ../smalltest2/k/kusr1 kusr1 > > > > where smalltest2 is a qtree at the same level as homelinks and kusr1 is the uid. > > > > that's the correct way, right? > > > > obviously[after some groaning], linking to /filer//smalltest2/k/kusr1 wouldn't > > work. > > > > > > yes? > > Yes. > > This should also work on the NFS client: > > cd /filer/homelinks > ln -s /vol/vol0/smalltest/k/kusr1 kusr1 > > The important thing to remember is that the symlink must make sense > to the filer, because the filer follows it. The symlink does not > necessarily need to work properly on the NFS client. In this case, > /vol/vol0 does not exist on the NFS client, but that doesn't stop > you from creating a symlink that points to /vol/vol0. > > It's fine to use relative links like you did with ../ when the > cifs.home_dir directory is in the same volume as all the home > directories. But what if you have multiple volumes? Then you > are forced to used the /vol/vol* absolute paths for the home > directories that are in a different volume from the cifs.home_dir > directory. > > ln -s /vol/vol0/home/k/kusr1 kusr1 > > ln -s /vol/vol2/home/x/xusr1 xusr1 > > Fortunately, ln -s does not check the filename argument on the left > to be sure it exists. So you can make symlinks that point to just > about anything you want. > > Steve Losen scl(a)virginia.edu phone: 434-924-0640 > > University of Virginia ITC Unix Support -- regards +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Neil Lehrer + + United States International Broadcasting Bureau + System Development Division + + voice 202 619-2524 + fax 202 619-3576 + nlehrer(a)ibb.gov + + " is this crisis an opportunity or just + another grab the fire extinguisher moment?" + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Re: service process suggestion
by MCope＠isisph.com 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

I feel your pain. They changed RMA shipment of parts a year or more ago. The first time I had a disk failure and it didn't arrive automatically within the four hours stipulated in the support contract I went on the war path. I was told that there were excessive parts shipments that were being sent back because of false alarms so they instituted a verification process. I argued that a message stating there had been a disk "failure" can't be interpreted any other way. I would have to say this is the only complaint I have with NetApp support services.

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service process suggestion
by Todd C. Merrill 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

Greetings. I'm finding some of the processes within service/tech support to be annoying. 1. On more than one occasion when a disk has blown, or if we've needed a part like a cluster interconnect card, tech support has contacted me, but HELD UP dispatching the part because they wanted to verify my address. Come on. It's my responsibility to keep that up to date, and if it's not, then a mis-shipped part is my fault. Further, if filers are at alternate locations, can the NOW database's capabilities be expanded to include the location (with address and/or alternate contact number) for shipment of parts. 2. To try to alleviate this shortcoming, I've put a note in my profile that encourages tech support to use the pager number I've specified in my profile to get a hold of me. It's not my primary choice for contact, but I explicitly say to use it if I don't answer my phone or email in short order or during non-business hours. This doesn't seem to work at all. Or, maybe there can be an option to "always ship to profile address" or not, if people desire a phone call verification and a delay before a part is dispatched. I don't. Thanks for listening. Until next time... The Mathworks, Inc. 508-647-7000 x7792 3 Apple Hill Drive, Natick, MA 01760-2098 508-647-7001 FAX tmerrill(a)mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com ---

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