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Kinh moi tham du: Hoi cho thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung - Viet (27-30/3) tai China
by xttm＠china-vn.com 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn Kinh moi tham du >>>> Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II Thoi gian to chuc : 27/03-30/03/2003 Dia diem: Dai Le Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Du kien quy mo trien lam: 250 gian hang Don vi to chuc: Phan ban Quang Tay-Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc Uy ban nhan dan tinh Quang Tay-Trung Quoc Cong ty co phan thuong mai & xuat nhap khau Quang Tay Cong ty trien lam kinh te thuong mai Hoan Cau Dong to chuc: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (VCCI) Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Trung Quoc Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://www.china-vn.net Uy ban xuc tien thuong mai quoc te Trung Quoc. Giay Moi Hoi cho(Quang Tay) thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung Quoc-Viet Nam lan thu II se to chuc vao ngay 27 - 30 thang 03 nam 2003 tai Dai Hoi Duong Nhan Dan tinh Quang Tay thanh pho Nam Ninh.Tinh Quang Tay TQ la mot hanh lang chinh cho cac doanh nghiep cac tinh noi dia Trung Quoc nhat la cac tinh ven bien Dong Nam Bo va cac tinh mien Bac TQ di vao thi truong cac nuoc ASEAN qua Viet Nam, tinh Quang Tay TQ cung da tro thanh dau cau cua Trung Quoc tien vao thi truong Dong Nam A. Sau khi gia nhap WTO va di doi voi su khoi dong cua mo hinh khu mau dich tu do Trung Quoc - ASEAN(10+1),khien cho vi the uu viet cua Quang Tay cang noi bat len. Cuoc hoi cho lan nay se to chuc voi ton chi la de phat huy day du vi the va uu viet ve tai yen cua Quang Tay, that chat hon nua moi quan he mau dich va hop tac kinh te giua hai nuoc Trung - Viet. Chung toi se het suc phuc vu tot cho cac vi quy khach Trung Quoc va Viet Nam den du Hoi cho nay va chung toi se cung cap day du dich vu nhu Quang cao hang xuat khau Viet Nam, xuc tien hop tac Trung-Viet, tim doi tac TQ cho Doanh nghiep Viet Nam, lap quan he voi Co quan chinh phu TQ cho DN Viet Nam, giup dai ly san pham, gioi thieu du an dau tu, tu van chinh sach kinh te ….Kinh moi ban cung nhau xay dung mot bac thang cho su hop tac va giao luu thuong mai giua hai nuoc Trung Quoc va Viet Nam. Noi dung trien lam: Cong nghiep: Thiet bi in an va dong goi, nguyen lieu va san pham cao su, giay, chat deo…, xe may & phu tung, cong cu gia dung, do dien gia dung…, Cac san pham cong nghe cao…. Nong nghiep: Nong lam dac san, giong cay trong, thiet bi co gioi nong nghiep, che bien & dong goi thuc pham va nong san; thuc an gia suc, phan bon hoa hoc, thuoc tru sau, thuc pham… Y te: Thiet bi y te, duoc pham va hoa chat… Che bien thuy hai san: Cong nghe va thiet bi che bien thuy hai san… Tieu thu cong nghiep: Cac mat hang thu cong my nghe, qua tang, do choi, cac san pham tong hop khac… Gioi thieu cac du an dau tu, giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet Lich hoi cho: Ngay 25 - 26/03/2003: Dang ky va bo tri gian hang Ngay 27 - 30/03/2003: Trien lam, hoi thao, khao sat thuc te Ngay 30/03/2003: Ket thuc trien lam Hinh thuc tham gia: 1. Thue gian hang: Chi phi thue gian hang:600USD/mot gian Tieu chuan gian hang: 3m X 2m = 6m2 , bao gom: Dat thue, vach ngan, tham trai san, 01 o cam dien 13A-220V, 01 ban 02 ghe, bieu hieu cong ty bang tieng Viet hoac tieng Trung. Quang cao trong Show Catalogue: 200USD/trang mau trang trong. Phi van chuyen tu Ha Noi den cua khau Huu Nghi Quan:200USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan(chia binh quan cho tat ca cac doanh nghiep tham du co chuyen hang), phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Cuoc phi van chuyen hang hoa tu Huu Nghi Quan - Nam Ninh:150USD/luot/xe tai 5 tan, phi boc hang se tinh rieng theo trung loai va so luong hang hoa. Chuong tirnh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trung bay tai Hoi cho: 24/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 25/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong Cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam(VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 26/03: Nam Ninh Ca ngay trang tri, dan dung gian hang. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu tham du Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03:Nam Ninh Trung bay hang hoa tai trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi: 265USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. 2. Tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang Chuong trinh danh cho nguoi dai bieu tham gia trien lam nhung khong thue gian hang: 25/03: Ha Noi 15:00, cac dai bieu tap trung va hop doan tai Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam (Dia chi:33 Ba Trieu Ha Noi), pho bien chuong trinh.(Chi phi an nghi, phuong tien di lai do dai bieu tu lo trong ngay nay); 26/03: Ha Noi - Nam Ninh 06h00 tap trung tai Phong cong nghiep va thuong mai Viet Nam (VCCI) theo dia chi: 33-Ba Trieu-Ha Noi (Nga tu duong Ly Thuong Kiet va Ba Trieu), Ban to chuc don dai bieu xuat phat len Huu Nghi Quan lam thu tuc nhap canh Trung Quoc, len tau hoa di Nam Ninh, an nghi tai Nam Ninh. 27/03: Nam Ninh Khai mac Hoi cho, giao dich thuong mai giua doanh nghiep Trung Quoc -Viet Nam. Chieu khai mac Hoi nghi giao luu thuong mai va hop tac kinh te Trung-Viet, toi du tiec chieu dai cua ban to chuc va Uy ban tinh Quang Tay. 28/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du hoi thao theo cac chuyen de: "Trung Quoc-Viet Nam tiem nang va che bien nong san & thuc pham" "Thiet bi va cong nghe moi ve bao quan va che bien nong san & thuc pham", khao sat Vuon nong nghiep hien dai Quang Tay, Tham quan Khu cong nghe cao va moi thanh pho Nam Ninh. 29/03: Nam Ninh Tham gia trien lam hoac du Hoi thao: "Hinh thuc thanh toan an toan trong thuong mai Trung - Viet", Khao sat va lam viec, tiep xuc tu do voi cac doi tac tiem nang Trung Quoc. 30/03:Nam Ninh - Ha Noi Sau khi an sang, di tau hoa ve Bang Tuong, chieu cac dai bieu xuat canh Trung Quoc ve Viet Nam, den Ha Noi, ket thuc chuong trinh.(Khang tu lo an toi va nghi khach san trong ngay nay). Chi phi:250USD/Dai bieu Chi phi bao gom: Khach san 3 sao, an nghi, xe dua don theo chuong trinh, phi du trien lam va Hoi thao, phien dich chung ca doan. Chi phi khong gom: Ho chieu va Visa nhap canh TQ. Neu dai bieu di bang giay thong hanh phat sinh them 35USD/dai bieu. Ghi chu: Neu co dai bieu yeu cau di them khao sat tai Que Lam thi chuong trinh se phai them 2 ngay nua so voi cac chuong trinh tren, chi phi phat sinh them 100USD/Dai bieu. Thu tuc dang ky: 1. Doanh nghiep gui ban dang ky fax cung voi 50% tien dat coc bang tien mat hoac dien chuyen tien toi: Cong ty dich vu va thuong mai TSC -Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Tai khoan tien VND:0021000001059 Tai khoan tien USD:00211370021623 Ngan hang ngoai thuong Ha Noi (VIETCOMBANK HANOI) 2. So tien con lai thanh toan 10 ngay truoc ngay khoi hanh. Quyen loi cua cac don vi tham gia trung bay tai trien lam: - Tham gia vao cac Hoi thao, hoi nghi to chuc trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu trong cuon Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho bang tieng Trung, an pham nay se duoc phat mien phi cho khach tham quan Hoi cho va cac moi gioi khac. - Dam bao ve sinh chung trong khu hoi cho. - Ban ve an toan hang hoa trung bay ngoai gio mo cua cua hoi cho trien lam. - Dan dung va thao do gian hang trong truong hop thue gian hang tron goi. Cac dich vu nha to chuc ho tro cac don vi tham gia(co thu phi) - Van tai va tam nhap tai xuat hang trien lam. - In quang cao theo thiet ke rieng trong cuon Catalogue hoi cho. - To chuc cac hoi thao chuyen de, gioi thieu san pham va dich vu rieng. - Cung cap phien dich rieng theo yeu cau:20USD/buoi(4 tieng), 30USD/ngy(8 tieng), ngoai gio 10USD/tieng dong ho. - Thiet ke va dan dung cac gian hang dac biet, cho thue thiet ke gian gang. - Cung cap cac dich vu in an, cac san pham quang cao rieng. Ho tro cua Ban to chuc danh cho cac don vi: - Ban to chuc se ho tro 10% chi phi thue gian hang cho cac don vi cua Viet Nam, 15% phi thue gian hang cho doanh nghiep la hoi vien cua Cty Thang Loi - Hoi dong lien minh hop tac xa Viet Nam. Moi dang ky phai duoc thuc hien truoc ngay 17/02/2003. - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam se duoc mien thue hai quan Trung Quoc (ngoai ra mot so hang hoa dac biet) voi so luong khong han che nhung phai duoc su dong y cua Ban to chuc. - Doi voi cac doanh nghiep khong thue gian hang, Ban to chuc se bo tri mot phong trung bay chung mien phi Catalongue va mot so hang mau cua doanh nghiep trong thoi gian Hoi cho. - Tat ca cac doanh nghiep Viet nam tham gia Hoi cho deu duoc mien phi thong tin co ban cua doanh nghiep trong vong 1 nam tren trang tieng Trung cua Mang thong tin Trung-Viet: http://ww.china-vn.net de nham tao them co hoi tiep tan lau dai voi thi truong TQ. - Mien phi mot quyen Catalogue chinh thuc cua Hoi cho cho moi donh nghiep Viet Nam co tham gia Hoi cho. - Gioi thieu mien phi doi tac tiem nang tai Trung Quoc khi doanh nghiep Viet Nam co yeu cau va dang ky truoc 15 ngay tro len. Nhung thong tin can biet khi tham gia Hoi cho: - Tat ca hang hoa trung bay trien lam deu phai chuyen toi Ha Noi truoc ngay 10/03/2003 de Ban to chuc nhan hang tai Ha Noi va tap trung lam thu tuc hai quan Trung Quoc, qua han tren, Ban to chuc se khong chiu trach nhiem ve thu tuc hai quan. (Luu y: cac doanh nghiep tu chiu chi phi van chuyen len cua khau, va tu lam cac thu tuc hai quan Viet Nam).Cac don vi cung cap cho BTC danh muc hang hoa(Packing List) trung bay trine lam truoc 28/02/2003 gom co: Ten don vi tham gia trien lam, ten hang , so luong, noi xuat xung, don gia, kich co,trong luong, hinh thuc dong goi, so luong kien, so luong hang can tro ve VN sau hoi cho. - Doi voi cac dai bieu tham gia khao sat Hoi cho (khong thue gian hang), de nghi dang ky va nop ho so, danh sach day du theo yeu cau cua Ban to chuc truoc ngay 28/02/2003. - Cac dai bieu VN co the nhap canh Trung Quoc bang ho chieu + visa (khach tu lo).Trong truong hop hop khong kip xin cap ho chieu hoac Visa thi co the nhap canh TQ bang giay thong hanh do Ban to chuc tap trung xin thu tuc tai Viet Nam va Trung Quoc. Tuy nhien thu tuc nay chi co duoc phep thong hanh trong tinh Quang Tay TQ, ma khong duoc di vuot qua dia phan tinh Quang Tay-TQ voi thoi gian co gia tri trong 8 ngay. Neu co nhu cau can sang cac tinh khac cua TQ trong chuyen di bang giay thong hanh thi phai bao truoc cho Ban to chuc de giup do thu tuc. - Cac dai bieu xuat nhap canh bang giay thong hanh nop cho BTC 04 anh mau 3X4 va 02 chung minh thu Phto it nhat 10 ngay truoc khi xuat canh. - Cac doanh nghiep muon duoc gioi thieu mien phi khach hang tiem nang TQ hoac dang tai thong tin tren Mang thong tin Trung -Viet www.china-vn.net , de nghi gui truoc 10 ngay cac thong tin co noi dung gom: ten doanh nghiep, dia chi thong tin, Tel,Fax,E-mail,Website, so luoc doanh nghiep, thong tin san pham, can mua va can ban, muc dich chuyen di… cho Ban to chuc bang tieng Viet hoac Trung (Khong qua 1000 tu). Moi chi tiet xin lien he: Hoac lien he truc tiep voi chung toi: + Ban to chuc Hoi cho: Dia chi:18 ngo Nam Nhat Ly, duong Tinh Ho, T.P Nam Ninh Tel:0086-771-2615157 Fax:0086-771-2630917 E-mail: xttm(a)china-vn.com Website: www.china-vn.net Nguoi lien he: Mr. Hai , Mr. Luc + Dai dien Ban to chuc tai Viet Nam: Phong thuong mai va cong nghiep Viet Nam Trung tam giao dich quoc te TSC Dia chi:33 - Ba Trieu - Hoan Kiem- Ha Noi- Viet Nam Tel:04.9360134 Fax:04.9360103 E-mail: vcciglobexpo(a)hn.vnn.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr:Hung Mobi:0913367082 Cong ty thuong mai & du lich quoc te Kim Lan-Quang Tay- Trung Quoc Trung tam xuc tien thuong mai Trung - Viet Van phong dai dien tai Ha Noi DC: 204 Pho Duc Chinh-Ba Dinh-Ha Noi Tel: 04-9273335 Fax: 04-9273335 E-mail: kimlanhanoi(a)fpt.vn Nguoi lien he: Mr.Bach - Mobi: 0912118616 Moi chi tiet xin truy cap: http://www.china-vn.net/vn/vn

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question about databases on NetApps
by Mike Kazar 28 May '00

28 May '00

Pardon my ignorance, but I have a question for people running databases on NetApp boxes. I've seen a number of notes in the past from people running Oracle or Sybase over NFS to a NetApp box, and I'm puzzled: why run a database over NFS instead of on top of a local disk? Are you running several instances of the database on several hosts, all sharing the same database over NFS? I'm surprised that works reasonably with a log file being hammered on by several different machines (and I don't really understand how it could work at all with several different log files). Also, I would have thought that NFS's loose cache consistency semantics would have prevented sharing a database from working at all, unless use of file locking disables caching appropriately. Or are you just running one database host, and using the NetApp to manage the database host's disk space. If so, what are the advantages you get from using the NetApp for disk space management instead of just using a local disk? Thanks in advance, Mike

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Rename a qtree?
by Richard L. Rhodes 04 Mar '00

04 Mar '00

Can you rename a qtree? I tried this: - from the mount point for /vol/vol0 I did a "mv qtreedir newqtreedir" - edited /vol/vol0/etc/quotas to change the quota entry to reflect the new name: newqtreedir - edited /vol/vol0/etc/exports to change the exported dir to newqtreedir - resized quota for vol0 - rexported everything - at the host unmounted/deleted the nfs mount - added a new mount using newqtreedir It looks like it works. On the hosts a df command shows the quota correctly. Question: Is this really messing things up or is this ok? Thanks Rick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard L. Rhodes e: rhodesr(a)firstenergycorp.com Ohio Edison Co. p: 330-384-4904 f: 330-384-2514

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Re: Disk drive technology
by mds＠gbnet.net 03 Mar '00

03 Mar '00

On Wed 23 Feb, 2000, "Bruce Sterling Woodcock" <sirbruce(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote: > The article doesn't say, but bigger, faster disk drives often draw more > power. Thus, NetApp needs to have shelves that can support them > first, before they can test them for reliability. There are a lot of issues > involving mechanical vibration and so on that have to be assessed before > such a drive could be qualified. It may be that this particular drive is > not appropriate for certain shelves. Well, yeah, so much so obvious. So how soon was that? 8) > More spindles is better performance, if you are read-heavy. If your filer > seems slow and it's reading constantly but the CPU is still under 100%, > more spindles could help. So much for conventional wisdom. However, my question was trying to elicit something a little more, well, complete as a model of performance. I mean FCAL is a loop technology, and filers can come with 1, 2 or 3 loops. How much does performance differ when using 1 chain as opposed to 3 balanced chains, using which drives, using what RAID set sizes and volume mappings? How does performance get affected by the size of the disks you use? See, if none of these things makes any difference to performance I'd love to know why. If they *do* then I'd love to know how to build faster filers. I'd be happy with an analytical model, or a set of tables taken from either real lab testing with real filers, or simulator results. As it stands though, all we have are rules of thumb that sound plausible. The same goes for backup performance. There's been so much discussion on the list about both topics, but I can't honestly hand-on-heart tell someone how best to set-up their filers. I'd write something if I knew the answers myself. The best I can find is things like: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/contents/FAQ/FAQ_560.shtml I've been meaning to brush up on queueing theory so maybe I *will* try to work something up myself on this. I'd just hate to reinvent the wheel if someone's done it already. I also don't know anything about the buffers in the filer, on FCAL interfaces, the network interfaces, the precise use of the WAFL, etc.. So my model might be under-informed. Here's a thought to mull over: if you have 20 18 gig drives on 2 loops and 16MB nvram, will you see better or worse performance than with 40 9GB drives on 1 loop with 16MB nvram presuming your clients are all writing as fast as they are allowed? Please disregard any "such configs aren't shipped" objections as this is an in-principle hypothetical. Please do consider the effect of RAID sets, and incremental disk-additions over the lifetime of the filer in question. I picked writing as the task because I wanted to point out also that there's an impact on the DOT algorithms, based on the spindles, the RAID set sizes, and maybe the chains too. I don't know the answer, but I'd like to. Without such models we all have to purchase filers somewhat in the dark, and either pray that we got it right, or expend more time than we could in evaluating our purchases for suitability. One question - is anyone else interested in this or am I just shooting my mouth off needlessly? >-- End of excerpt from "Bruce Sterling Woodcock" -- -Mark ... an Englishman in London ...

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User viewing quota
by bhaskar.g＠philips.com 02 Mar '00

02 Mar '00

Hi all, We have set the quotas for all the users in the /vol/vol0/home. If any user from the unix system gives the command quota -v. he gets lists of all the users who are owning the files in the home directory. But the disk usage is of my home directory. Please let me know is there any solution for this. bhaskarg@nakul$ quota -v Disk quotas for bhaskarg (uid 1036): Filesystem usage quota limit timeleft files quota limit timeleft /chicago/disk14 0 75000 76000 0 2200 2225 /tmp_mnt/home/babuk 228900 409600 409600 894 20480 20480 /tmp_mnt/home/bhaskarg 228900 409600 409600 894 20480 20480 /tmp_mnt/home/opusadm 228900 409600 409600 894 20480 20480 /tmp_mnt/home/kjayanth 228900 409600 409600 894 20480 20480 /tmp_mnt/home/kannan 228900 409600 409600 894 20480 20480 /tmp_mnt/home/model 228900 409600 409600 894 20480 20480 /tmp_mnt/home/vish 228900 409600 409600 894 20480 20480 /tmp_mnt/home/bhargava 228900 409600 409600 894 20480 20480 /tmp_mnt/home/ksaxena 228900 409600 409600 894 20480 20480 regards Bhaskar G Systems Engineer, Philips Semiconductors, #3, Sterling Square,Madras Bank Road, Off St Mark's Road,BANGALORE-560 001. Voice : +91 80 222 9200 Ext 5060 Fax: +91 80 2229700

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Running du's
by Derek Kelly 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

This may be a fruitless search for info but i'm interested in hearing about how folks are handling disk usage stats on large quantities of data (say 2 or more TB). Of particular interest to me are environments where there are lots and lots of small files rather than a modest amount of large ones. Knowing that the network wire is usually the bottleneck, we are running our du's from an admin host on the same isolated 100 bt server network as our 6 filers. But- because of a known incompatibility between the network card on our admin host and the Bay switch we're using, the card can only sucessfully do half-duplex, not full. Due to a lack of other suitable hosts to run these reports from, I now turn my attention to this list for some collective brainstorming. Thanks, Derek Kelly

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RE: Running du's
by Mohler,Anissa 29 Feb '00

29 Feb '00

You don't have to set a rediculously high quota limit to track disk and file usage you can use a dash (-) in the /etc/quotas file for any item that you wish to track without imposing a quota limit. Then run quota report to see the disk/file usage for all users that you wanted to track. Thus you would end up with a line in your quotas file like this: #target type disk files * users - - which will track disk and file usage for all users w/o worry about imposing a quota on them. This link provides a good explanation: http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel53/html/sag/quota1.htm Hope this helps! Anissa :-----Original Message----- :From: Bruce Sterling Woodcock [mailto:sirbruce@ix.netcom.com] :Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 8:39 AM : :----- Original Message ----- :From: Derek Kelly <derek.kelly(a)genomecorp.com> :To: <toasters(a)mathworks.com> : : :> This may be a fruitless search for info but i'm interested in hearing :> about how folks are handling disk usage stats on large quantities of :> data (say 2 or more TB). : :Give every user a quota, but set the quota so outrageously :high they won't :encounter it. Then the quota report will give you instant :usage for any :user, and it will count everything on that filesytem, not just :the stuff in :his :home directory. : :Bruce : :

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Re: Running du's
by Tom Reingold 29 Feb '00

29 Feb '00

Yes, and since quota report counts all files on that quota tree (or volume), it doesn't necessarily give you the information you're after. For instance, if you want to move a directory tree from one quota tree (or volume) to another, you have to run du to know its size. The problem remains, as far as I know. On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:39:29 PST, "Bruce Sterling Woodcock" <sirbruce(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Give every user a quota, but set the quota so outrageously high they won't > encounter it. Then the quota report will give you instant usage for any > user, and it will count everything on that filesytem, not just the stuff in > his > home directory. > > Bruce

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Concerned about quick EOL for 9 gig drives
by Thomas Leavitt 29 Feb '00

29 Feb '00

Hello all... we're in the final stages of purchasing a NetApp F740 to host our Sybase (or Oracle, eventually) database on. The device will be populated with 18 gigabyte drives, to balance # spindles with total storage capabilities. At the moment, the 36 gigabyte drives don't look to be appropriate to our needs or cost-effective. However, I'm concerned at the relative speed with which the 9 gigabyte drives were EOL'd and then became unavailable for sale. Is there a scheduled time-frame for EOL on the 18 gigabyte drives? Should I specify 36 gigabyte drives, just to be safe and have a reasonable time frame for continued acquisition of the same type of drive? Thomas P.S. Thanks to everyone who responded previously to my query about people's experience running databases off a NetApp... I'm confident now that this is a feasible solution, and that the benefits are pretty compelling. The last obstacle is simply arranging to actually demonstrate this working in a test environment, before going forward. -- Thomas Leavitt -- thomas.leavitt(a)clickrebates.com; 408-591-3342 (cell) Co-Founder/COO, ClickRebates.Com, Inc. The Leader in C2B(tm) - empower yourself, get rewarded for your time on-line! Sign up at: https://secure.clickdough.com/servlets/cr/CRSignup.po?referral_id=tvl

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Re: User viewing quota
by dnb＠ccs.neu.edu 29 Feb '00

29 Feb '00

Howdy- If it is any comfort to you, NetApp knows about this problem (and can reproduce it in their lab). Bug 13364 was opened for me on 3-10-99 for this exact problem. I've pretty much given up on getting this mostly cosmetic problem fixed (though perhaps I should celebrate it's anniversary), so we tell people to use the magic of grep. Respectfully, David N. Blank-Edelman Director of Technology College of Computer Science Northeastern University

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