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From: Lerch, Alfred
Sent: Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2007 22:48
To: 'Page, Jeremy'; 'owner-toasters@mathworks.com'
Subject: RE: NDMP tuning on a 270c

Hi Jeremy,
 
see NetApp Bug 96894: Phase I of NDMP based backups is slow
fixed in 7.0.6 - so this could well be the issue you encounter
 
regards
 
alfred
 

Bug Detail

Bug ID 96894
Title Phase I of NDMP based backups is slow.
Duplicate of  
Bug Severity 3 - Serious inconvenience
Bug Status Fixed
Product Data ONTAP
Bug Type Backup/Restore 
Description
Formatted
 For NDMP backups with File History enabled, Phase I is slow. The extent of 
 slowness may depend on fragmentation of the inode file and the file system. 
 With Data Ontap 6.4 onwards, NDMP backups with File History add some processing
 in Phase I. This processing is required for DAR Enhancements (A restore time
 feature), which are a part of Data Ontap 6.4 or beyond. The slowness is 
 attributable to performance bottlenecks in this additional processing. 
Workaround
Formatted
 Backups without file history continue to perform as expected. For backups where
 performance of Phase I is bothersome, file history can be turned off temporarily
 until a fix is available. 
 For a workaround to turn off the additional processing during Phase I (Offset map
 generation), without disabling the file history, please track bug 102211.
Notes
Formatted
 
Related Solutions
     
    Fixed-In Version
     
     

    From: Page, Jeremy [mailto:jeremy.page@gilbarco.com]
    Sent: Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2007 14:02
    To: Lerch, Alfred
    Subject: RE: NDMP tuning on a 270c

    7.05. I was just in Munich Monday, had a great time.
     

    Jeremy M. Page, MCSE, CNA, CCNA       _____             

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    From: Lerch, Alfred [mailto:alfred_lerch@mentor.com]
    Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:26 AM
    To: Page, Jeremy
    Subject: RE: NDMP tuning on a 270c

    Hi Jeremy,
     
    which ONTAP version are you using? We had such an issue two years ago and it was a bug in ONTAP. (Unfortunately now.netapp.com is out of order right now so I cannot look it up.)
     
    regards
     
    alfred
     

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    From: owner-toasters@mathworks.com [mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com] On Behalf Of Page, Jeremy
    Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2007 14:26
    Cc: toasters@mathworks.com
    Subject: RE: NDMP tuning on a 270c

    I guess my gripe is why does Netbackup lock a drive when it's doing the scan. I understand it can't do the backup until it knows *what* it's going to backup, the confusion on my part is why that would lock a tape.
     
    Also, for some reason (I'm not the backup guy so I am probably missing something) we need all our tapes to do a single file restore anyways, seems like you are saying that's not normal.
     
     

    Jeremy M. Page, MCSE, CNA, CCNA       _____             

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    From: tmac [mailto:tmacmd@gmail.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:47 PM
    To: Page, Jeremy
    Cc: toasters@mathworks.com
    Subject: Re: NDMP tuning on a 270c

    The Miserable File History problem....

    I actually have a level 0 that takes over 8 hours to pass file history info which means the dump does not start until that point.

    Just for kicks, you could modify your policy to have the first line as "set hist = n" (without quotes).
    This will kill the file history. You will be unable to restore files (directories only) and you will not have DAR
    which means you will have to read the ENTIRE backup tape or tape set.
    Instead of looking at pure size, do a "df -h" and a "df -i" to how much and how many (files) you are backing up.
    You can always dived the size used by the files used to see average file size.

    Heck for that matter you could scan the filesystem with the filestats command and you could scan from a NFS client
    to see which directories are huge (I have a number of directories that are 50MB in size-> this KILLLLS a backup)


    On 6/19/07, Page, Jeremy <jeremy.page@gilbarco.com> wrote:
    We are backing up a 270c nightly with Netbackup via NDMP to a dual drive LTO3 machine (only one drive is used for to backup the filer). There are 2.25 TB on one head and 1.1TB on the other. For a full backup it takes about 10 hours to write to tape, which I don't think is too bad (larger volumes hit 31200 KB/sec reported by Netbackup), but the differentials take 5 hours to run,even though the delta on our data is very small.
     
     I suspect this is more of a Netbackup issue then a filer based one but wanted to throw it out there incase there was something I should look at on the host side. This is over a normal gigE switched network connection with the default settings on the filer, network-wise. We are not using virtual interfaces, both heads have a single 1 gig connection to the LAN. Any suggestions or inventive flames are welcome.

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