Hi Steve.

I've just checked our (non-Metro) clusters and I can confirm that most (probably all) the volumes that contain LUNs have nvfail set to 'on.'  Certainly there are no 'non-LUN' volumes with nvfail set to on.

Our transition 'through' 9.8 was directly from 9.7P13 to 9.9.1P7.

We haven't had any LUNs go offline but we also haven't had any FO/GB events since the last ONTAP upgrade.

HTH.  Please update the list if you find out more.

Kind regards
Steve



On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 at 14:52, Steve Kirk via Toasters <toasters@teaparty.net> wrote:



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From: Steve Kirk <steve.kirk@sheffield.ac.uk>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 14:48:44 +0100
Subject: NVFAIL - new behaviour or setting?
Hello toasters,

I'm interested to know if anyone else has found recently that volumes
containing LUNs have gone into the 'NVFAIL' state during an ONTAP
upgrade or other event that causes an HA failover?

It's not something we have ever specified on volume creation;
documentation suggests that it should be disabled by default however
all of our volumes containing LUNs appear to have NVFAIL enabled. My
*perception* this is a change since we upgraded to ONTAP 9.8.

The documentation seems live under Metrocluster; our affected system
is not a Metrocluster:
https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap-metrocluster/manage/concept_monitoring_and_protecting_database_validity_by_using_nvfail.html#how-nvfail-impacts-access-to-nfs-volumes-or-luns

It's also odd as the KB article says:
- This affords no extra protection for Storage Area Network (SAN)
hosts because SAN hosts reference LUNs by the LUN number assigned via
LUN maps and NOT by the LUN name.
- This protection was designed for file protocols, such as Network
File System (NFS) and Common Internet File System protocol (CIFS),
protect against corruption due to NVFAIL.

Taken from here:
https://kb.netapp.com/Advice_and_Troubleshooting/Data_Storage_Software/ONTAP_OS/How_does_NVFAIL_work_with_LUNs_in_clustered_Data_ONTAP

So it also seems like either the setting or the documentation is the
wrong way round to me...

Looking for feedback to see if anyone else has experienced this or if
there's something obvious we've missed before I raise a support call.

Cheers,
Steve



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