I’ve read this and 
other similar documents, but it doesn’t really answer my specific 
question.  Basically:
Company purchases filer 
with 4 full shelves of 14 disks.
Netapp recommends 
16-disk raid groups at install time.
Aggregate is created 
using 3 full raid groups of 16 disks, per best practices recommendations of 
adding full raid groups
Filer is left with 8 
spares (not 7 as I incorrectly mentioned before)
My options at this 
point seem to be:  1) add another raid group of 6 disks or 2) leave 8 
spares until some future time when capital budgets may purchase more 
shelves.  I don’t think increasing the raid group size is an option as I 
don’t believe you can increase the size of existing already-full raid 
groups?
Anyway, it feels like a 
big waste to me to have 8 hot spares, but if the performance or reliability 
costs of a 6 disk RAID-DP group are too large I can live with 
it.
-- 
Michael W. Sphar - 
IS&T - Lead Systems Administrator
SMBU Engineering 
Support Services, BMC Software
From: Parisi, 
Justin [mailto:Justin.Parisi@netapp.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:01 
PM
To: Jason Herring; 
Subject: RE: FAS3020 - aggr best 
practises.
Here's a good document 
to browse over for this particular issue...
 
http://www.netapp.com/library/tr/3437.pdf
From: 
owner-
Sent: Monday, March 19, 
2007 3:08 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: FAS3020 - aggr best 
practises.
You can always 
go with a larger RAID group size - it does support up to 28.  However, at 
some point you have to bite the bullet and lose 2 more disks to parity.  It 
depends on how you want the math to work out in the long run.
The reason 
you want to add the disks in large sets is so you have a more level writing of 
the data to the disks - you don't want to get 3-4 'hot disks' slowing the whole 
aggregate down until the data is spread evenly among the aggregate.'s new 
disks...
-----Original Message-----
From:   
owner-
Sent:   Mon 3/19/2007 11:06 
AM
To:     
Cc:    
Subject:        
RE: FAS3020 - aggr best practises.
Point one reminds me of a question 
I've been pondering.  I've got a
filer using RAID-DP with 3X14-disk raid 
groups, and currently 7 spares.
Ideally I'd only keep two spares, but I'm 
still not clear on the
pros/cons of adding a 5 disk raid group, effectively 
only adding three
more data disks to the volume.
I'm not in a 
space crunch currently but I certainly will be at some
point.  Is it 
best to leave so many extra spares until I can add a full
raid group all at 
once?  Or in my case is it not that 
important?
--
Michael W. Sphar - IS&T - Lead 
Systems Administrator
SMBU Engineering Support Services, BMC 
Software
________________________________
From: 
owner-
On 
Behalf Of Learmonth, Peter
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:43 PM
To: 
Darish Rajanayagam; 
Subject: RE: FAS3020 - aggr 
best practises.
Hi Darish
Welcome to NetApp and to 
Toasters!
1.  You can do an "aggr add aggr0 56" or use the 
FilerView GUI and add
all 56 of the new disks into the existing 
aggregate.  You can physically
add the shelves and add them to the aggr 
while the filer is up and
running.  I see no disadvantages, and that is 
the best practice.  (Add
disks in large sets, ideally the raid group 
size).